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Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd
Reply #60 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 8:52am

mozzaok wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 7:48am:

Utter rubbish Calanen, most of those who you deem ignorant, were openly critical of the aspects of Islamic practices which are unacceptable in our society, the difference is that those people know where to draw the line, and people like you are seemingly unaware that a line exists.

As many have said to you before, if you actually promote and use the same sort of behaviour yourself, that you rail against Islam using, then your whole reason for opposing Islam, the protection of our values, goes out the window anyway.

mozz,

Wrong.

I believe that Cal is 'expressing' some commendable personal values, characteristics.

That spirit, that internal human value, which identifies something which is evil, and criticises, and opposes it.

mozz,

In your argument, you are logically, effectively arguing that we should also disband our police forces,
.....because the police often have to demonstrate, and exercise, a measure of the same violence, which is in the criminals, which they seek to apprehend.

And we all know, that violence [itself] is wrong!
/sarc off

So there is no justification in police exercising 'violence', in their dealings with criminals.

Because we wouldn't want to hurt, or injure the criminals, now would we?

moz,

The spirit you express, is the spirit of Neville Chamberlain.

It is the spirit of the appeasement of evil.

'The way to peace - avoid violence at all costs, appeasement of evil works!!!'

mozz,

Your logic says,

"All violence is wrong.
And aggressors will be overcome, by our surrendering to their [evil and wicked] violence.
Then, the violence, will stop."

But moz, we are kidding ourselves, because aggression is not overcome by our surrender to it.

That way leads only to slavery, and our submission, to those who do evil and wicked things.

Applying your logic, we would become the slaves of evil men.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Edmund Burke

"And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good - need we ask anyone to tell us these things?"

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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skippy

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Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd
Reply #61 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 9:06am

I wonder if FD could get into trouble for letting this terrorist spread his vile hate.
I really can't believe someone who advocates terrorism in our country is still allowed to be posting his hate.
yadda, I think the spooks must need a bit of a hand to find out where you live, he must be using a proxy server.

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Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd
Reply #62 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 9:31am

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I wonder if FD could get into trouble for letting this terrorist spread his vile hate.

I really can't believe someone who advocates terrorism in our country is still allowed to be posting his hate.

yadda, I think the spooks must need a bit of a hand to find out where you live, he must be using a proxy server.

Expressing my political opinion, that ISLAM is a violent, evil, political tyranny, which we as Australians should not appease, and which we as a people should not 'accommodate',
......is not, 'spreading vile hate.'

All the claims i make against ISLAM, and against devout muslims, i can substantiate.

The evidence is clear, and it is not hidden away, it is out in the open.

Speaking TRUTHFULLY [about ISLAM, devout muslims], is not 'vile hate'.

skip,

If for instance, i were to describe a person who had violently and intentionally killed another person, as a 'murderer'.

That is not 'hatred'.

Calling a murderer, a 'murderer'
, would be an accurate descriptive, of the person i was referring to.

TRUTH, is not hate.

And the TRUTH, is never
hateful.

Where did you learn that it is skip?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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skippy

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Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd
Reply #63 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 9:42am

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to immediately close or destroy all mosques

You made the above demand of the PM of Australia, that demand is the demand of a terrorist and you should be treated as such.
WHERE IS ASIO?

You are no better than the Bali bombers the Indonesian bombers of last week or the terrorists who blew up the world trade centre, you advocate the very same things that they do, you are a TERRORIST and you should be arrested and charged.
You can go on about all your religious s hit as much as you like, it aint gunna save you anymore than it does your Muslim brothers.

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Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd
Reply #64 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 10:01am

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to immediately close or destroy all mosques

You made the above demand of the PM of Australia, that demand is the demand of a terrorist...

No, it isn't.

It is the 'demand' of a rational person, living in an insane, and violent, world.

But it is interesting, that your assertion being made here [above],
...IS EXACTLY, THE ASSERTION BEING MADE BY ISLAMIC BODY'S, AND ASSOCIATIONS, ALL OVER THE WORLD.

Which is,

All ISLAMIC bodies worldwide, claim, that those who criticise the blatant violence against non-moslems [which is being perpetrated by devout moslems, and which is motivated directly by ISLAM], ARE A 'TERRORISTS'.

Because those people [WHO ARE MERELY TELLING THE TRUTH], are inciting 'irrational' hatred, against peaceful moslems.

They are promoting [irrational] 'ISLAM-O-PHOBIA'.
/sarc off

Obviously, all these claims by ISLAMIC bodies worldwide, are untrue, and are a 'smokscreen'.

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and you should be treated as such.
WHERE IS ASIO?

You are no better than the Bali bombers the Indonesian bombers of last week or the terrorists who blew up the world trade centre, you advocate the very same things that they do,

No, i do not.

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you are a TERROIST and you should be arrested and charged.

You can go on about all your religious s hit as much as you like, it aint gunna save you anymore than it does your Muslim brothers.

Well thank you for your opinion skip.

And, isn't it 'nice',
......to be able to freely express your opinion?

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skippy Ex Member	Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd Reply #65 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 10:05am Quote: And, isn't it 'nice', ......to be able to freely express your opinion? Tell it to the judge.
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Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd
Reply #66 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 10:10am

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And, isn't it 'nice',
......to be able to freely express your opinion?

Tell it to the judge.

skip,

This post [link below] by helian, is really a post addressed to you.

And it describes your
condition.

"An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1247892235/55#55

Get help.

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skippy

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Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd
Reply #67 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 10:18am

I've just sent a copy of your letter to my local federal member, whoever got your copy in Kevvies office must have binned it and just thought you were a loony( not wrong there) but I'm not prepared to sit around and let you make terrorist threats without doing something about it.
Have a nice day, get out and smell the roses ,while you still can. Tongue

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Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd
Reply #68 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 10:27am

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I've just sent a copy of your letter to my local federal member,
whoever got your copy in Kevvies office must have binned it and just thought you were a loony( not wrong there) but I'm not prepared to sit around and let you make terrorist threats without doing something about it.
Have a nice day, get out and smell the roses ,while you still can. Tongue

Good onya skip!!!

I hope that you have sent the complete transcript of my letter, and not just another one of your 'special' edits....

"An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1247892235/20#20

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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skippy Ex Member	Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd Reply #69 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 11:08am I highlighted the important parts yadda, just think by tonight you could be famous as Australia's first christian terrorist charged under the new terrorism laws.
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Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd
Reply #70 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 11:16am

Yadda wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 10:10am:

skip,

This post [link below] by helian, is really a post addressed to you.

And it describes your
condition.

"An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1247892235/55#55

Get help.

No, it was addressed to you. I notice you waited till you thought you might have back up here before you scuttled out of your cave.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd Reply #71 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 11:39am Luke Chapter 2 2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. (and while you're at it, destroy the Mosques) hmmmm
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd Reply #72 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 11:43am muso wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 11:39am: Luke Chapter 2 2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. (and while you're at it, destroy the Mosques) hmmmm What's next? Synagogues?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd Reply #73 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 12:54pm Don't you think this carry-on is kinda pathetic? I have no doubt your local member binned your request too Skipeee.
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skippy

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Re: An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd
Reply #74 - Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 1:01pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2009 at 12:54pm:

Don't you think this carry-on is kinda pathetic?
I have no doubt your local member binned your request too Skipeee.

You'd better hope so boofy, I included your quotes condoning what yadda said, we can't have terrorist sympathisers among us now can we?

Besides, I notice when its a christian advocating terrorism against Muslims you think its ok but when its the other way around you cant shut up about it.
Time for you to sing for the spooks boofster.

looks like they've got yadda already, he's scatoodled.

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