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Reply #30 - Jun 26^th, 2009 at 9:20am

mozzaok wrote on Jun 25^th, 2009 at 9:36pm:

We have tried to explain the concept to Tallo before Calanen, but he is so impressed with his brilliant deuctive reasoning, that he doesn't care that it is fallacious.

The fact that Stalin's Atheism was not a determining factor in his megalomanic actions, somehow fails to penetrate Tallo's consciousness.

The examples given him of theists, performing acts of brutality, whilst openly stating they do so for the glory of their god, to show the difference, did not register with his grey matter either.

He refuses to get it, although how someone can be so determinedly obtuse, is beyond me.

Ah Mozz, but it all makes sense in that special religious kind of way. You know the three equals one, God has a mother, and the admirable God that couldn't find a better plan than murdering a nations babies.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4230	Re: Like it or leave? Reply #31 - Jun 26^th, 2009 at 11:48am I am not impressed with atheists ability to reason while they proclaiming that Reason is their Holly Pig
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Reply #32 - Jun 26^th, 2009 at 12:16pm

tallowood wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 11:48am:

I am not impressed with atheists ability to reason while they proclaiming that Reason is their Holly Pig Grin

What's a holly pig?

I've said again and again, not believing in something is just that, not believing. You can believe in God if you want, I don't care. I just don't.

There may be things you do not believe in. Do you believe in vampires? Yes/No? If you say No, are you part of the Great Anti-Vampire Religion? If you say No, are you 'closed minded', or 'intellectually dishonest' or 'on some crusade to convert the whole world to your anti-vampire religion?'

Are you intellectually arrogant to deny the existence of vampires, given all the many folk tales and stories about them throughout Europe?

Or maybe you just don't believe in vampires, like I don't believe in God.

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Reply #33 - Jun 26^th, 2009 at 6:08pm

Calanen wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 12:16pm:

tallowood wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 11:48am:

I am not impressed with atheists ability to reason while they proclaiming that Reason is their Holly Pig Grin

What's a holly pig?

I've said again and again, not believing in something is just that, not believing. You can believe in God if you want, I don't care. I just don't.

There may be things you do not believe in. Do you believe in vampires? Yes/No? If you say No, are you part of the Great Anti-Vampire Religion? If you say No, are you 'closed minded', or 'intellectually dishonest' or 'on some crusade to convert the whole world to your anti-vampire religion?'

Are you intellectually arrogant to deny the existence of vampires, given all the many folk tales and stories about them throughout Europe?

Or maybe you just don't believe in vampires, like I don't believe in God.

A holly pig of atheism is similar to holly cow of hinduism.
Calanen, you can believe that God(s) don't exist for all I care but believe is a believe. Simple as 2+2=4, isn't it?

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Calanen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2241	Re: Like it or leave? Reply #34 - Jun 26^th, 2009 at 7:19pm Oh, a HOLY pig. There you go. What's your Holy Cow of Anti-Vampirism?
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4230	Re: Like it or leave? Reply #35 - Jun 26^th, 2009 at 8:34pm Calanen wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 7:19pm: Oh, a HOLY pig. There you go. What's your Holy Cow of Anti-Vampirism? Do you believe in vampirism?
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Acid Monkey Gold Member Offline Goth Father Posts: 1064 EU Gender:	Re: Like it or leave? Reply #36 - Jul 4^th, 2009 at 9:02pm tallowood wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 6:08pm: A holly pig of atheism is similar to holly cow of hinduism. I thought that it was supposed to be the Invisible Pink Unicorn of atheism?
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Reply #37 - Jul 4^th, 2009 at 9:16pm

Why do Christians always quote the OT when it comes to vengenge, retiribution and hate; but the NT when it comes to love.

My understanding is that the tenet of Christian faith is the belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God. If that is true then surely his teaching sshould be held with more reverence and importance than the teachings of prophets before him?

Jesus said:

You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? ~ Matthew 5: 43-47

Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets. ~ Matthew 7:12

I repeat, Jesus said....

"You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies!"

Whatever laws in the OT was basically anulled by Jesus with this phrase. Either you believe him or you don't.

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Acid Monkey Gold Member Offline Goth Father Posts: 1064 EU Gender:	Re: Like it or leave? Reply #38 - Jul 4^th, 2009 at 9:26pm Acid Monkey wrote on Jul 4^th, 2009 at 9:02pm: tallowood wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 6:08pm: A holly pig of atheism is similar to holly cow of hinduism. I thought that it was supposed to be the Invisible Pink Unicorn of atheism?
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Reply #39 - Jul 4^th, 2009 at 10:04pm

When Yadda wrote,
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Would i suffer criminal violence, ...meekly?

Probably not.

Will my God forgive me, if i spilled blood?

I would guess, with some confidence, that that, would depend upon my motives, for doing so.

I wonder if he realises just how often the terrorists he denounces, express startlingly similiar beliefs?

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OOPS!!! My Karma, ran over your Dogma!

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Calanen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2241	Re: Like it or leave? Reply #40 - Jul 4^th, 2009 at 10:40pm tallowood wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 8:34pm: Calanen wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 7:19pm: Oh, a HOLY pig. There you go. What's your Holy Cow of Anti-Vampirism? Do you believe in vampirism? No. Do you?
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Reply #41 - Jul 5^th, 2009 at 1:07am

Calanen wrote on Jul 4^th, 2009 at 10:40pm:

tallowood wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 8:34pm:

Calanen wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 7:19pm:

Oh, a HOLY pig. There you go.

What's your Holy Cow of Anti-Vampirism?

Do you believe in vampirism? Shocked

No. Do you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_bat

But of course atheists do not need facts when they have such a strong belief system

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Reply #42 - Jul 5^th, 2009 at 8:21am

tallowood wrote on Jul 5^th, 2009 at 1:07am:

Calanen wrote on Jul 4^th, 2009 at 10:40pm:

tallowood wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 8:34pm:

Calanen wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 7:19pm:

Oh, a HOLY pig. There you go.

What's your Holy Cow of Anti-Vampirism?

Do you believe in vampirism? Shocked

No. Do you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_bat

But of course atheists do not need facts when they have such a strong belief system

Oh Lord. You know I didn't mean parasitic animals. I mean *vampires*. Yes ok, mosquitos are vampires, so are ticks and fleas....

Yes I know there is a vampire bat, but its not a vampire. So do you believe in vampires?

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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.

Yadda

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