The Australian justice system like most modern systems is good in theory, but not so much in practice.

Juries are nice idea but honestly 1/2 the time they are simply not capable of rendering a decision based on the facts.

Justice needs to be split in multiple segments , and each addressed separately.

1 . Victim compensation should handled by a body set up to do so and be unrelated to reform or punishment of the offender.  If the crime committed has caused suffering then this body should seek to help them deal with the issues they face.

2. Punishment / Reform should be decided by a body whose goal it is to keep society safe and help offenders re-integrate when they have completed custodial sentences.

3. If you have committed a crime you innocence or guilt should be decided bases on actual evidence and not hearsay or emotive argument.

My outsider's perspective is that punishments are too lenient.

oznationalist wrote on Aug 20^th, 2009 at 10:24am:

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If you mean the traffic fine system, I agree with that. but the justice system is overwhelmingly not traffic, its drug related. And there aint much revenue in enforcing those laws.

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That's true, they went all out to destroy any lawyers who dared to represent people charged with terror crimes. That's just human nature, whoever is in charge plays hard and to win. Wouldn't change no matter who was in power.


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I can tell you that in New South Wales, that is not correct. The tapes are monitored by an independent civilian employee and a police officer independent to the investigation. The tapes are sequentially numbered and sealed for copying once completed. Because the film itself is numbered, any 'missing' film would be immediately noticeable. They can certainly bash suspects off screen and have, but cant alter or erase tapes to prevent detection.

Just watch T.V on Tuesday night on I think a current affair or today tonight one or the other will give you some true insight into how our so called justice system operates. You will see just how our pigs find their strength in numbers and power through torture and submission. I have even heard of children as young as nine being beaten upon by police for protesting their innocence, people get bashed again and again especially if they try to refuse to sign the paper to say that they were not mistreated, we need video surveillance on our police 24 7 to protect the public. And we need to stop the government funding of solicitors to protect the police who are accused of abuses, as nobody has a chance against them in any case no matter how badly they have been beaten. I could make accounts of at least 20 cases where people were beaten so badly by police that I can’t understand why they never took revenge upon them I suppose fear must be the reason. Yet when they get bashed it becomes a media defense frenzy.
Remember they are there to serve us not abuse us be sure to report any abuse to the office of police integrity, and get public with your stories. One day the police will serve the public again I am sure of it but first they must be exposed, don’t forget this wont happen via internal pressure but by the efforts of the public, and above all don’t defend them as one day you will be their victim to.
Some other tips are record the police discreetly every time you have to deal with them for example you may get pulled over start recording on your phone or mp3 immediately prior to any contact with them, any contact between the police and their victims that gets recorded always yields the evidence required to beat their asses in court. See a doctor straight away ring a taxi or even better an ambulance from the police station and go straight to the doctor. Also if they take you from your home try to get someone to photograph your whole naked body prior to leaving, as well as them photographing them, taking you away, if possible it is good to have friends or family tail and video the police vehicle on the way to the station as usually this is where the bashing begins. And don’t fear their fire arms believe me if they use them on an unarmed person and accidentally shoot you they will pay, obviously they only get a slap on the wrist but it helps to expose their nature.   

Happy wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2009 at 11:11am:
The police force has a history of coming down heavily on its members who oppose its tactics, they are villified as traitors and riddiculed into submission.

This is correct. Pig-thug use of societally-sponsered violent assaults is another form of society claiming something is illegal (assault) when it promotes the exact same actions using a different label and "spin" on the exact same actions.

sprintcyclist


That does not make sense.


This does not address any point made to you. What you think is irrelavent.


If your source is TV shows, your knowledge is not even based in reality. Only a fool thinks TV shows are a legitimate source of information.


Australian society is based on lies, myth and false principals. Those programmes have no Truth-based content. You do not even seem to have the intellect to understand a word I even said.

The values of society, the code of the police force, criminal law, the justice system are ALL deranged, malevolent, lie-based and toxic. It is not a matter of the system failing to meet the ideal. It is a case of the ideal as being false and lie-based in the first place.


Society has no legitimate business jailing its victim-creations and subjecting them to punitive punishment.


I never suggested that their behaviour should change.



Prisons are inanimate buildings. Of course they are not at fault. Criminals are not at fault. Society is at fault.

GO back and actually read what was said properly.