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John Locke 1632-1704
May 19th, 2009 at 10:27am
 
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"......he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power does thereby put himself into a state of war with him;"


John Locke 1632-170

Civil Government Second Essay

"Locke, John (1632-1704) - English philosopher who had a tremendous influence on human knowledge and on political theory. He set down the principles of modern English empiricism.
Concerning Civil Government Second Essay (1690) - States Locke's belief in the natural goodness and cooperative spirit of man and his theory that the state should operate according to the natural laws of reason and tolerance."





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                                1690                                 

                  CONCERNING CIVIL GOVERNMENT, SECOND ESSAY               
                                                                          
               AN ESSAY CONCERNING THE TRUE ORIGINAL EXTENT AND            
                                                                          
                           END OF CIVIL GOVERNMENT                        
                                                                          
                                by John Locke


           ......Chapter III                                    
                        Of the State of War                               

16.  The state of war is a state of enmity and destruction; and therefore declaring by word or action, not a passionate and hasty, but sedate, settled design upon another man's life puts him in a state of war with him against whom he has declared such an intention, and so has exposed his life to the other's power to be taken away by him, or any one that joins with him in his defence, and espouses his quarrel; it being reasonable and just I should have a right to destroy that which threatens me with destruction; for by the fundamental law of Nature, man being to be preserved as much as possible, when all cannot be preserved, the safety of the innocent is to be preferred, and one may destroy a man who makes war upon him, or has discovered an enmity to his being, for the same reason that he may kill a wolf or a lion, because they are not under the ties of the common law of reason, have no other rule but that of force and violence, and so may be treated as a beast of prey, those dangerous and noxious creatures that will be sure to destroy him whenever he falls into their power. 
17.  And hence it is that he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power does thereby put himself into a state of war with him; it being to be understood as a declaration of a design upon his life.  For I have reason to conclude that he who would get me into his power without my consent would use me as he pleased when he had got me there, and destroy me too when he had a fancy to it; for nobody can desire to have me in his absolute power unless it be to compel me by force to that which is against the right of my freedom- i.e.  make me a slave.  To be free from such force is the only security of my preservation, and reason bids me look on him as an enemy to my preservation who would take away that freedom which is the fence to it; so that he who makes an attempt to enslave me thereby puts himself into a state of war with me.  He that in the state of Nature would take away the freedom that belongs to any one in that state must necessarily be supposed to have a design to take away everything else, that freedom being the foundation of all the rest; as he that in the state of society would take away the freedom belonging to those of that society or commonwealth must be supposed to design to take away from them everything else, and so be looked on as in a state of war. 
18.  This makes it lawful for a man to kill a thief who has not in the least hurt him, nor declared any design upon his life, any farther than by the use of force, so to get him in his power as to take away his money, or what he pleases, from him; because using force, where he has no right to get me into his power, let his pretence be what it will, I have no reason to suppose that he who would take away my liberty would not, when he had me in his power, take away everything else.  And, therefore, it is lawful for me to treat him as one who has put himself into a state of war with me- i.e., kill him if I can; for to that hazard does he justly expose himself whoever introduces a state of war, and is aggressor in it. 
19.  And here we have the plain difference between the state of Nature and the state of war, which however some men have confounded, are as far distant as a state of peace, goodwill, mutual assistance, and preservation; and a state of enmity, malice, violence and mutual destruction are one from another.  Men living together according to reason without a common superior on earth, with authority to judge between them, is properly the state of Nature.  But force, or a declared design of force upon the person of another, where there is no common superior on earth to appeal to for relief, is the state of war;






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Re: John Locke 1632-1704
Reply #1 - May 19th, 2009 at 10:29am
 
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......  172.  Thirdly, despotical power is an absolute, arbitrary power one man has over another, to take away his life whenever he pleases; and this is a power which neither Nature gives, for it has made no such distinction between one man and another, nor compact can convey.  For man, not having such an arbitrary power over his own life, cannot give another man such a power over it, but it is the effect only of forfeiture which the aggressor makes of his own life when he puts himself into the state of war with another.  For having quitted reason, which God hath given to be the rule betwixt man and man, and the peaceable ways which that teaches, and made use of force to compass his unjust ends upon another where he has no right, he renders himself liable to be destroyed by his adversary whenever he can, as any other noxious and brutish creature that is destructive to his being....

....  222.  The reason why men enter into society is the preservation of their property; and the end while they choose and authorise a legislative is that there may be laws made, and rules set, as guards and fences to the properties of all the society, to limit the power and moderate the dominion of every part and member of the society.  For since it can never be supposed to be the will of the society that the legislative should have a power to destroy that which every one designs to secure by entering into society, and for which the people submitted themselves to legislators of their own making: whenever the legislators endeavour to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.


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In reading his essays, it is clear that such a man, John Locke, was not a product of the influence of a philosophy such as ISLAM.

But that he was a man bounded by an intellectual exploration of 'the natural laws of reason and tolerance'.

And John Locke reasons, that those who seek to put us under their influence and power, without our consent, seek against nature, to make us [their] slaves.

And he reasons, that it is such people [oppressors] who are the cause of human conflict and war, being a conflict which is prosecuted by an oppressor, seeking to enslave the will of all others, not within, and under the oppressors' will and authority.




"......he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power does thereby put himself into a state of war with him; it being to be understood as a declaration of a design upon his life.  For I have reason to conclude that he who would get me into his power without my consent would use me as he pleased when he had got me there, and destroy me too when he had a fancy to it; for nobody can desire to have me in his absolute power unless it be to compel me by force to that which is against the right of my freedom- i.e.  make me a slave."







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The difference between a free man and a slave is that a slave values his life more than his freedom...
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