Quote:You are both shooting for pleasure - that is killing a living, warm, breeding animal for the pure thrill of killing something.
So it's OK to kill cold but not warm blooded animals? Is it OK to kill non-breeding animals?
Quote:If you were serious about shooting to increase your skill - you would use inanimate objects.
It depends what skills you want to improve. The skills involved in hunting and target shooting overlap far less than is immediately apparent. With hunting, most of the skill comes into play welll before you pull the trigger.
Quote:You are in the minority for condoning this blood sport.
I think you'd have a hard time backing this claim up mantra.
Quote:An extract from the people against hunting from one park alone.
From who?
Quote:A proposal to the Minister, authored by hunters and non-hunters, requested that there should be specified periods when forests would be off limits to hunters, to give all recreational users a fair go. This was refused.
Sounds reasonable to me. It's not like our forests are crowded. They would be some of the least crowded forests in the world. It sounds like legislation designed to inconvenience more than anything.
Quote:and has so far received little in the way of revenue from licences and fines
Funny that they don't bother giving the actual figures. You need to be a bit more questioning about what you read mantra. If they gloss over such an important point, it is most likely because they don;t want people to know the facts.
Quote:Many NSW residents do not feel the benefits of this scheme outweigh the risks
Argumentum ad populum. Surely it is the actual benefits and risks that really matter, not whether some group misleads the public about the benefits and risks.
Quote:Whenever a duck shoot is photographed you see hundreds of ducks and similar birds dying slow painful deaths after the hunters have had their fun.
Do you really? Can you give an example of one such occasion?
Quote:You don’t kill thousands of ducks to eat – you kill them for pleasure.
Are you suggesting that one person killed thousands of ducks?
Quote:If it is for food. For the oven, not the freezer.
That doesn't sound very hygenic to me sprint. What if it's 42C outside, dusty and fly ridden? Should hunters dispose of 90% of the animal because they can't eat it all straight away? Like wild dogs killing a sheep for the liver?
Quote:The planet is so overpopulated at present and our resources are running out - there should be laws in place, particularly in a wealthy country like Australia - where slaughter of an animal is only legal for a valid reason.
There already are mantra. But it is a bit extreme to pass a law governing what people think while they do something, if that is what you are suggesting.
Quote:The Warrigal - can't you see the difference? Obviously a slaughterhouse is a horrific place to view - but the people who own them are doing it for a living and that applies to the workers also.
So mantra, your objection has nothing to do with the suffering of animals, the environmental impact or the ethics of meat consumption or hunting. You really just object to people enjoying themselves?
Quote:The conditions there are controlled and inspected regularly and abbatoirs have to comply with Australian standards of slaughter.
Likewise the Nazis had strict rules about how jews were to be gassed and their bodies disposed of without wasting valuable resources. What is it about rules and regulations that makes you think they solve everything?
Quote:Few workers would be there just for the pleasure of it.
Let me get this straight - you think slaughterhouses are better because the jobs suck and the employees are miserable, but hunting is bad because people enjoy it? Is the purpose of your proposals to spread misery?
Quote:I doubt too many animals in Australian abbatoirs would be left to suffer for days with an arrow or bullet in them.
Most of them suffer their entire life. Not 'left' to suffer, but 'forced' to suffer.
Quote:There is so much anger about hunting in Australia
Yes, it seems to get in the way of rational and objective consideration of the issue.
Quote:you have to wonder why the Game Council has so much influence in our state and federal governments
So much influence? I would expect they only have influence over game issues, for which they sound like the appropriate body to represent hunters. Are you suggesting hunters should not be represented in parliament? Is this part of your strategy of spreading misery?
Quote:Pig hunting also causes other problems including
Pigs are feral animals. Surely you are not suggesting we end one of the few effective means of controlling their population.
Quote:dogs leave scents and droppings which scare away native animals
They should be scared. That's nature for you. It's not like The Lion King.
Quote:the risk to public safety of having people in 4WDs speeding through national parks with dogs, guns and knives
People speed on established roads as they pass through, not while following their own dogs or looking for prey.