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Concerned Christians...
Mar 15th, 2009 at 11:19pm
 
I think I'm going to have to begin to agree... Christians are nothing but loons.

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Concerned Christians is a group of at least 78 adults and children, led by Monte Kim Miller, (b. 1954). (Some sources incorrectly call him Kim Monte Miller).  Until recently he had been a marketing executive of Proctor & Gamble. Ironically, Miller was an anti-cult activist in the 1980's. He formed Concerned Christians in the 1980's to fight the New Age movement, and what he regarded as the anti-Christian bias of the media. His newsletter, "Report from Concerned Christians" attacked feminist spirituality, the 1987 Harmonic Convergence, New Age trends in Evangelical Christianity, alternative medicine, the Coalition on Revival, Southern Baptists, Assemblies of God, the Roman Catholic Church, the World-Faith movement, and many other Christian denominations and organizations.

He produced a radio program "Our Foundation" for a during part of 1996. In 1996-JUN, he announced that he speaks for God. Some followers were disillusioned by this and left; most remained in the group. He predicted that an earthquake would wipe Denver, CO off the map on 1998-OCT-10. This prophecy proved to be false. His followers believe that Miller is the one of the two witnesses mentioned in the Book of Revelation, chapter 11. He predicted his own death, and that of his co-prophet, in 1999-DEC in Jerusalem. He expected to be resurrected three days later. This prophecy also failed. He taught that his group are the only true Christians; salvation can only be earned by repenting and following him. 6 Presumably the remaining 2 billion Christians and 4 billion non-Christians in the world will all go to Hell.

The Denver apocalypse didn't happen. However, about 78 of the group sold some of their possessions, emptied out their homes, and left Denver near the end of 1998-SEP. (Estimates range from fewer than 60 to up to 80). At least some relocated to Jerusalem. Many Christians believe that when Jesus returns, he will descend from the sky and make landfall on the Mount of Olives, near Jerusalem. 1

On 1999-JAN-3, Israeli police raided two suburban-style homes in the Mevasseret Zion suburb, in the western outskirts of Jerusalem. They detained eight adults and six children who belonged to the Concerned Christians. They had been living quietly, financing themselves on their savings and donations from the U.S.  Brigadier General Elihu Ben-Onn, an Israeli police spokesperson alleged that the cult members planned to "carry out violent and extreme acts in the streets of Jerusalem at the end of 1999." 2 This would begin "a process that would bring about the Second Coming of Jesus." 4 If this is true, then their technique appears to be to incite a religious war that would expand into the War of Armageddon as prophesied in the book of Revelation of the Christian Scriptures. Most conservative Christians believe that Jesus would return at this time. The Israeli police allege that the group planned a deadly shoot-out with police near the Church of the Holy Sepulcher where some Christians believe the tomb of Jesus is situated. No evidence has been made public to support these allegations. No firearms were found at either of the group's residences. Eleven of the group were deported; the 3 other members were temporarily arrested on suspicion  of being involved in a conspiracy to violate a law which protects holy places. The three told their lawyer that they didn't want to return home because they feared that the U.S. would be destroyed soon.  One of the detainees. John Bayles, denied any evil intent on the part of his group: "I'm not here to hurt anybody. I don't feel I pose a threat  of physical harm to anyone. I don't feel I have committed any conspiracy.'' 3

On 1999-JAN-4, a reporter found a taped message and associated photocopied document on the doorstep of one of the then-abandoned homes that had been rented by the Concerned Christians. It was labeled "Series # 18, Tape # 30" indicating that it was apparently one of a large group of such messages. The voice on the tape has not been identified. It linked Presidents Clinton and Coolidge with mass murderer Charles Manson. It linked such events as hurricane Andrew, the Oslo peace accords, and Nagasaki. The speaker predicted that the United States, the "dragon kingdom" would receive "double the judgment" that Japan experienced at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This tape may be totally unrelated to the Concerned Christians group.

All 14 arrived back in Denver on 1999-JAN-9, accompanied by Israeli security agents. 5 They avoided friends and relatives who were waiting for them in the airport. Dozens more members are being sought by Israeli police.

On 1999-JAN-8, Muslim prayer leader  Hayan al Idrisi at Jerusalem's Al Aqsa mosque referred to the Concerned Christians as "a dangerous group.'' He claimed that the group planned to destroy the mosque. It is located on the Temple mount and is Islam's third holiest shrine. Although no evidence has been produced to support this theory, it is consistent with prophecies in the Bible. In Revelation, the Jewish Temple is described as fully functional and engaged in regular ritual animal sacrifices when Jesus returns. The temple would have to be located at, or near, or on top of the mosque.

TBC...
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Reply #1 - Mar 15th, 2009 at 11:20pm
 
"There is growing concern in Israel that the group, the Concerned  Christians, is a forerunner of hundreds of fanatics who will be  drawn to Israel at the close of the millennium for what they expect  to be the return of Jesus." 5  The Israeli security authorities established a task force in 1998 to deal with violence perpetrated by various Christian groups as the year 2000 approaches. The police asked for a budget of $50 million dollars (U.S.) to handle the problem. Fortunately, their fears did not materialize.

The Denver Post published a news item about a law-enforcement official in England. He feared that Monte Kim Miller and followers might have targeting the Millennium Dome, a massive exhibition hall built east of London. This concern appears to have been based solely on the rumor that some of Miller's followers said that he was in England doing "research." "Scotland Yard will launch a massive operation to protect the site from all cults and terrorists...The operation will cost about $10 million." 9


What happened at the Millennium?

Nothing. None of Miller's predictions came true, either at the start of the year 2000 or 2001. He has not been seen in public since he predicted in 1999 that he would die in a Jerusalem gun battle at the end of that year and would rise three days later in time for the second coming of Jesus. Mark Roggeman, a Denver police officer who monitors new religious organizations in his spare time, said: "We're figuring that maybe 60 are in Greece, with the rest believed to be somewhere in the Philadelphia area." Sherry Clark, the mother of Robin Malesic, a member of the group, has not heard from her daughter in four years. Hal Mansfield, director of the anti-cult Religious Movement Resource Center in Fort Collins, CO, said: "As Miller gets going further and further down the nutty path, he might think, 'I've got nothing to lose; let's do a suicide pact.'...I consider them dangerous to others. I've heard tapes where Miller says, 'Jesus died for us, there's a time we have to die for him.' "
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Reply #2 - Mar 15th, 2009 at 11:47pm
 
Probably examples of the "Jerusalem Syndrome"

The Jerusalem syndrome is the name given to a group of mental phenomena involving the presence of either religiously themed obsessive ideas, delusions or other psychosis-like experiences that are triggered by, or lead to, a visit to the city of Jerusalem. It is not endemic to one single religion or denomination but has affected Jews and Christians of many different backgrounds.
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Reply #3 - Mar 15th, 2009 at 11:51pm
 
There have been 3 very prominent books recently enlarging on just that topic - christans are stupid/dangerous and loonie: Hitchens, Dawkins and another fellow with obviously minimal name recognition. No burning flesh or buildings. No mass hysteria. Lots of debate, discussion, but no killing.

Publish 3 books in on the Muslim stupidity/loonacy and danger in, say, Pakistan, malaysia and Egypt and see their GDP go up in smoke beforee your very eyes. Lots of deaths, no discusson.


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Reply #4 - Mar 16th, 2009 at 9:59am
 

Crafty little ploy there soren.

Let's move the topic away from the wicked loony acts Christians commit, and instead look at the response of other Christians?
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Reply #5 - Mar 16th, 2009 at 11:00am
 
His point is relevant Aboo...  you hate people looking at your crap from another direction don't you.

What is your point here.
That a small group of christians have a concern? (Not that we know they are all christian BTW)

Or is it part of your hate the Jew mentality?
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