Australian Politics Forum - Swearing to God

easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Swearing to God Mar 7^th, 2009 at 8:35pm Is it true Christians are not supposed to do/say things like "I swear to God." or use a Bible in court when saying that they will not give false testimony? Something about let your yes be yes and your no be no?
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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41730 Gender:	Re: Swearing to God Reply #1 - Mar 7^th, 2009 at 9:01pm i haven't heard that one before easel
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7964 Gender:	Re: Swearing to God Reply #2 - Mar 7^th, 2009 at 9:18pm I've heard that real muslims never ever swear by allah when they lie. Is it true?
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Re: Swearing to God
Reply #3 - Mar 7^th, 2009 at 9:19pm

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Mt ch5 v33-37
Again, you have heard how it was said to our ancestors, You must not break your oath, but must fulfil your oaths to the Lord. But I say this to you, do not swear at all, either by heaven, since that is God's throne; or by earth since that is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, since that is the city of the great King. Do not swear by your own head either, since you cannot turn a single hair white or black. All you need is "Yes" if you mean yes, "No" if you mean no; anything more than this comes from the Evil One.

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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41730 Gender:	Re: Swearing to God Reply #4 - Mar 7^th, 2009 at 10:11pm Oh, I've aware of the quote. But to extroplate that to say xians should not swear on the bible in a court is ridiculous. I could probably find more isolated quotes that are as foolish. Got to read your own bible yourself, it gives one the overall picture. You know what weighting to give topics.
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Re: Swearing to God
Reply #5 - Mar 7^th, 2009 at 10:21pm

The thing is though, Christians are supposed to pursue truth anyway, isn't that the Christian way, oppose corruption and what have you?

So if someone was a Christian only in name, or wanted to give an air of integrity when they were lying, they would have no problem making an oath on the Bible.

Also, if someone asks you to make an oath on the Bible, what do they think they are doing? Who do they think they are? Are they trying to instil fear of God in to others, misusing and abusing fear of the unknown/afterlife?

In regards to tallowood's post:

I had this discussion with a Muslim guy a while back, I asked him to swear on the Qu'ran for some reason, and he was like no, that is blasphemy (not that word though) or something.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7964 Gender:	Re: Swearing to God Reply #6 - Mar 7^th, 2009 at 10:26pm easel wrote on Mar 7^th, 2009 at 10:21pm: ...In regards to tallowood's post: I had this discussion with a Muslim guy a while back, I asked him to swear on the Qu'ran for some reason, and he was like no, that is blasphemy (not that word though) or something. As I said they would not do it if they lie.
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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41730 Gender:	Re: Swearing to God Reply #7 - Mar 7^th, 2009 at 10:32pm easel - every moral person seeks and speaks the truth. it sure makes life a lot easier.
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Re: Swearing to God
Reply #8 - Mar 7^th, 2009 at 10:44pm

tallowood wrote on Mar 7^th, 2009 at 10:26pm:

easel wrote on Mar 7^th, 2009 at 10:21pm:

...In regards to tallowood's post:

I had this discussion with a Muslim guy a while back, I asked him to swear on the Qu'ran for some reason, and he was like no, that is blasphemy (not that word though) or something.

As I said they would not do it if they lie.

That isn't the same as them not doing it if they were telling the truth.

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Kytro Gold Member Offline Blasphemy: a victimless crime Posts: 3409 Adelaide Gender:	Re: Swearing to God Reply #9 - Mar 9^th, 2009 at 11:58am Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 7^th, 2009 at 10:11pm: But to extroplate that to say xians should not swear on the bible in a court is ridiculous. What, they still do that? That will make a person more believable.
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Jim Profit Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 439 Gender:	Re: Swearing to God Reply #10 - Mar 13^th, 2009 at 7:04pm Where is all this bullshit about what Christians are and aren't suppose to do? Wasn't the rules made in the ten commandments and the rest is just filler of different prophets opinions and blogs?
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