The Australian Human Rights and Equal Opportunities Commission is beavering away to introducxe new laws that will effect us all and certainly this forum.

They are calling for submissions from individuals and groups but the close off date is 28/2/09.

If any are interested, submissions can be presented freestyle or you can use a template which is available here; www.hreoc.gov.au/frb/template.doc

E-mail the submission to frb@humanrights.gov.au

Cheers.

No-one is coming, or will come, to set you free from oppression.

Our forefathers learned, and came to understand that TRUTH.

Our forefathers struggled, and sometimes fought [spilled their blood], to secure the rights and freedoms which they thought were due, to free men.


In our lives, we should actively seek justice, and TRUTH.

And we should always spurn 'laws' which clearly undermine those ideals.



IF YOU WANT TO BE FREE, YOU MUST UNDERSTAND....

Nobody is ever going to come, and fight injustice, to make you free!

The only way to be free, is to believe, to understand, that you ARE free!
.....[if you want to be, if you choose to be.]

i.e. You must live your life as though you are truly a free person!

Our freedom begins, when we seize our freedom for ourselves.





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"If one wishes to enslave people, constrain their capacity for independent thought - not their hands;
.....for the chain of dependence is incomparably stronger than the chain of iron."

unattributed quote?




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"Definition,
Thug = = a person willing to commit violence to get what they *desire*.

Definition,
'nice' person = = persons who enjoy the benefits of rights and freedoms, but see no connection between their own rights and freedoms, and the personal sacrifice which was required, to secure those rights and freedoms.

Definition,
Citizen = = a person who recognises they have a responsibility to defend [through personal sacrifice], their own rights and freedoms.


What we all have to ask ourselves is, in a world full of thugs, and 'nice' people.....

If the 'nice' people in the world are not prepared to defend their rights and freedoms [which were won by the sacrifice of the spilt blood of their fathers], and and if they are not prepared to condemn [and physically oppose] the thugs....

Then in a struggle between thugs, and 'nice' people, who will prevail?

Aggression [or oppression] is not overcome, by surrender to it.

That way leads to slavery [and no peace!].

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Edmund Burke (1729-1797)"

"Fighting Islam the only way it can be defeated"

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1233520005/55#55

I'm filling the template right now and going to sent it tomorrow.

It would be interesting to have separate discussions about some of the questions presented in the template.

Thanks northy.

thanks northy.

have filled one out and sent it off.

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Feb 25^th, 2009 at 5:34pm:


Yeah I think probably the time to send stuff in is when the Cabinet and Senate is looking at it. HREOC says rubbish all the time.

THe only reason a court or Tribunal does anything is to get more power. The greater power they want is some sort of power to prevent 'defamation of religion'. As Islam steps straight into the political sphere and seeks religious apartheid through warfare, it deserves to be justly criticised like any other political philosophy. Like all forms of fascism however, it seeks to stifle dissent.

More cunningly (and Islam is very very cunning) it seeks to use the institutions of its enemy to prevent dissent against it while it readies for attack. And what is worse is that many stupid people within our society will be ready to support them so doing.

All these things which keep getting put forward convince me more and more to become a Rebel.

mantra - the international laws that geert wilders is charged on says any religion is not allowed to be critized, especially muslims.

as a defender of the freedom of speech I am totally against that
as a christian I am happy to have my faith tested.

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What does it actually say sprint?

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I think you are confusing discrimination with criticism. Discrimination usually refers to judging someone unfairly based on something that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. That is, you can call someone a lunatic based on their political beliefs, but it is discrimination to deny them service in a restaurant or a (nonpolitical) job.

It's slightly double edged.

If you don't want to pay taxes, then you shouldn't benefit from what those taxes provide.

However, everyone pays tax.

GST, excise etc, you pay it even if you wish not to.

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No, of course not. Despite the impression you can sometimes get, there is a fair bit of common sense in it.

Basically, it comes down to what is a good reason. You can't refuse someone a burger flipping job at maccas because they are black. But if you are casting for a movie role for a white person, you can discriminate all you want. There are some genuine grey areas in this, but you are nowhere near them.

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Plenty of hippys and angry old men have tried that one. That's why they brought in the GST.

only the female ones

freediver wrote on Mar 17^th, 2009 at 10:14pm:


Then that isn't EEO, is it?

Militant feminism has a place in the sense it can help balance out those who wish to oppress women, but it (EEO) shouldn't be applicable to only certain people or certain groups, because, if it does, it is hardly EEO is it?

Like 'Animal Farm' where it was scrawled 'all animals are created equal but some are more equal than others' (perhaps not an exact quote). That was a simple microcosm of why equality doesn't work if it is only a name and not put in to practice.

However some would take advantage of such a system, using freedom against itself to limit individual rights.