Aren't we all?

It doesn't really matter what the label is. If people oppose freedom and democracy, they are not welcome.

Gillard promised she would deliver her "sustainable population" policy, however, this was before the election, so I guess not being a 'core' political promise, this is no longer applicable/on the table?

See there are core, and non-core ALP policies!

freediver wrote on Feb 6^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:



As I said elsewhere, you and millions of others have successfully absorbed and accommodated the Islamist view and have come out with the 'Zionism is fasism' trope on fairness grounds. How utterly ridiculous.

Why the jews alone are not entitled to national self-determination is left unexplained by all the mindless  'zionism is fascism' mob.
Israel does not want to impose Juadism on the world, or to make all other countries its vassals the way the fascists and Islmists want to bring the world under their own ideological control.

It takes a particular kind of wilful and nasty stupidity to accuse Israel of all countries of being fascist state. It shows ignorance of both Zionism and fascism.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2011 at 1:25pm:


Fair enough, I try not to read itthelights post though Giz, they were bad enough on Yahoo lol.

I'm sure he means well, but....  it's a tad extreme.

I agree with what you are saying, about people going too far with their silly new-world-order conspiracy theories when denoting to any particular religious order or political movement, but I do think there's still a concern with fascism and corporate communism in this country, and I don't think they discriminate (race/religion wise)  don't particularly care who funds their agenda, be it extreme Zionists, Muslims, or Christians.

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-Giz, no, not strictly speaking, agreed, however,  when these extremists, be they religious groups or even corps start influencing  crucial policy/politics, which gives way to fascism, yes, they can interfere with the fair democratic process  itself, discarding others right to freedom in the process.

Take our 'biased' unbalanced media for example ... and how some might argue how biased it's become, this and how this plays a central role in televising pro-(whatever given party they are funding) agenda.

It all comes down to $$$$$, and unfortunately, why do you think Gillard is so pro-Israel?  Because it gives her much needed airtime on channel 7.

Otherwise she wouldn't give a sh1t about Israel!

Lol, she even pimped her boyfriend Mathieson out to a Zionist (Ubertas's) development mob in Melbourne, had him selling prestigious property for them as some sort of assurance...well, until we all found out about it at which point he had to resign.

The currency of money speaks all languages and to all groups!

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gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2011 at 2:17pm:


Define fascism,  fact is, it's principles are the same...essentially, chequebook privy for some groups/classes, and not others, irrespective of what group/class they be.

Personally, I don't like the idea of any religious group, or corporation, development mob etc having this much of a self-interested say in our nations politics. We pay politicians to run our country, not them...and whilst they, like all Australians are entitled to their say too, I don't think this is overly balanced right now...(media wise) whereby we are becoming quite fascist indeed.

I knew this was the case when we saw BHP's CEO publicly promoting Gillards policies, re- a Carbon tax late last year.

lol