I think the relevant academics attribute most of it to climate change.

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NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 6:28pm:


For the uneducated posters out there who can't spot the bleeding obvious, Helian just made that quote up.

-What he's doing is trying to make a point that European culture did just as much harm to the environment as Islamic culture ever could.


While I do acknowledge that European (Christian) civilisation has been rather destructive in regards to the environment, it would be wrong to push aside the fact that Islamic culture has been just as, or more destructive.

It has been widely publicised that Europeans are the only race in the world that has caused severe enronmental problems, it is rather refreshing to hear that Middle-Easterners are largely responsible for the destruction of their own habitat.


By the way Helian, Aboriginals have often been blamed for changing the once beautiful rainforest filled Australian landscape to a desert in less than 20,000 years due to the large scale practice of bushfires. Aboriginals have also been blamed for causing the extinction of Australia's megafauna by highly respectable academics.

If these theories are somehow proven to be correct, then Aboriginals, not Europeans, were much more destructive towards the Australian environment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushfire#History
Sources:
Flannery, T. (1994) "The future eaters" Reed Books Melbourne.
Wilson, B., S. Boulter, et al. (2000). Queensland's resources. Native Vegetation Management in Queensland. S. L. Boulter, B. A. Wilson, J. Westrupet eds. Brisbane, Department of Natural Resources.
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/science/nature/features/article_1032385.php/Ab...

Perhaps the Aboriginals should be the ones apologizing?  

Good thing you had old Kaiser Wilhelm on your side, peering out of his royal coach at "Palestine" as it ambled past a few fields on the way to and from his royal yacht that carried him back to Germany.

All human civilisations, particularly with concentrated populations often do untold damage to the environment. Its a human thing not a religious thing.

And by the way, Darwin did comment on the limited capacity for agriculture in Australia and noted the enormous damage European civilisation was doing to the environment. He believed that most of Australian native wildlife would be wiped out within 50 years. He could see that European style farming was inappropriate and ultimately unsustainable in Australia.

helian, why did you lie?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 8:57pm:



I read it and the question remains.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 9:19pm:



I read your lie, big dickhead.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 9:35pm:



Don't you want to apologise to be rude first?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 9:47pm:


I've noticed that you don't think.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 10:06pm:


I'm waiting for apologies from you in regards of your rude and false  remarks of personal nature.

tallowood wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 10:09pm:

No you're not. What you want is to walk away from this thread with a sense of righteous indignation. Don't you think your hare-brained ideas about camel sh!t and assertions that Muslims are somehow more destructive on the environment than any other peoples are offensive? You spout any crap you like under your "free speech" platform then get offended when someone refers to you using a diminutive, to which you respond by calling me a big dickhead. If you're offended by that, you're too soft for life.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 10:17pm:



yes I am because you need to be disciplined to make it worthwhile to discuss anything with you. So choice is yours.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 10:35pm:


It is obvious that you don't understand difference between disciplined thinking and prohibition of free thought just as you don't understand that Australia is not in the Middle East.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 10:55pm:


But you obviously don't know how to exesise the constraints when your own speech is concerned but I don't think that you are hypocritical for reasons that I stated above.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 11:19pm:



My role is to discipline you pal so I use your own words to awaken yourself.
Now tell me, is Australia in the Middle East or not?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 11:31pm:



You are really getting confused now, which is not surprising so I will let you to have a rest.

Tomorrow I will ask you about your dreams so please remember them when we talk again.

Judging by timestamp on your last post, helian, they were not your dreams but only wishes. So I'll wait till you wake up.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 17^th, 2009 at 7:56am:


It  seems that rolling in camel poo is your life long dream not mine. Has it reoccurred again last night?