Quote:Well I think it is slightly better than Nazism
(emphasis added)
Precisely. You put it in much the same category, even though it's never exhibited anything like the extreme inhumanity of Nazism, albeit on a slightly different rung of the same ladder.
Quote:The fact that you persistently compare it to burning witches at the stake etc, as if that is supposed to make it look good, is troubling.
As already stated, I did not.
Quote:Modernising: not stoning women to death
Islam no more stones *women* to death than it stones tall people or people with skin disorders to death. who just happen to be adulterers. Anyway this is an issue of death penalty, many countries you probably consider 'modern' today have the death penalty. If you opposed it on those grounds, I could perhaps see your point, but just saying "we think that crimes not worth the death penalty whilst these crimes are" is just hypocrisy.
Quote:not overthrowing democratically elected governments to install a friendly* dictatorship
(*irrelevant term replaced)
Your 'modern' countries are the largest perpetrator of this kind of activity in the history of mankind, what a laugh... you'd be a funny fellow fd if your ideas weren't bordering on xenophobic hysteria.
Quote:not killing apostates etc
As has been mentioned above, death penalty is the issue you should be discussing. Also treason (which is what apostasy is according to Islam) *IS* a capital offence in many 'modern' states.
Quote:No it didn't. It ceased being a 'Christian' world
It's still the Christian world, they're just not as good Christians anymore.
Quote:So invading Spain was a liberal idea?
Confusing foreign policy with liberalism is pretty disingenious.
Is the U.S.A not a liberal society, because it's invaded a whole swath of countries over the past century and continues to occupy quite a few of them?
Quote:Islam is still making the mistakes today that Christian Europe has consigned to history
Islam never made those mistakes, and is certainly not making them today. and you well know it.
You've just been duped into thinking the WTC attacks were the most evil horrific events ever to occur in the history of mankind.
Quote:Duh. Of course they are remote. They are in the pages of history. Bali, 9/11, the London bombings, Benbrika etc, these are not remote. These are unfolding today.
But they're nothing like the Inquisition, Crusades, Witchhunts etc. whatsoever.
Quote:But they aren't, and you just use the past acts that are not supported today to justify the barbarism that you do support.
I do no such thing. I don't think it's possible to compare the two, as they are so dissimilar, both in proportion, motive, outcome etc. that comparing them would be a joke.
I do however think it's a good idea for you to sit down and rationally and objectively compare the historical behaviour of Islam to the historical behaviour of the Christian-West, and then compare them today, you'll find in both cases, Islam to be far less extreme, violent and aggressive than the Christian-West. If you're incapable of doing it solo, then we can go through it together and compare them.
What you continually do is compare historical Islam with modern day Christianity (this has gotta be the most disproportional and out of context comparison I've ever seen made) by claiming Islam is a violent doctrine based on it's historical implementation (conjecturing that any future implementation would have to be the same, when it's obvious fact a lot of it was due to the historical aggressiveness of Christianity and other civilisations), and then comparing it to Christianity which is so peaceful, benevolent or even downright impotent in the present age. Whilst making such blatant errors in your analysis of Islam, you will not be able to make clear and honest judgements about it.