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Feb 6th, 2009 at 9:14am
 
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Everyone needs to be aware of this one. God bless our seniors Subject: Australian Govt Refugee Allowances vs.Aust Pensioners !! It is interesting that the Federal Government provides a Single Refugee with a monthly allowance of $1,890.00 and each can also get an additional $580. 00 in Social Assistance, so a total of $2,470.00 per month. Family of 4 can receive $9,880.00 per month or yearly $118,685 A single Australian pensioner who, after contributing to the growth and development of Australia for 40 to 50 years, receives only a monthly maximum of $1,012.00 in old age pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement. (Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!) *Let's send this to all Australians so we can all be ticked off and maybe we can get the refugees cut back to $1,012.00 and the pensioners up to $2,470.00 and enjoy some of the money we are forced to submit to the Government in taxes. * Please !! forward to every Australian to expose what our elected politicians are doing to the over-taxed Australian.


An email I received forwarded through friend to friend to friend etc. Usually I ignore them but thought maybe it's crazy enough to be true. Can anyone validate or repudiate the claim. I'll try to find out but someone may know.
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Reply #1 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 9:32am
 
That is a fraudulent email Locutius - it was a stupid email floating around last year and was disproved by Centrelink.  The refugees get the bare minimum for support and usually rely on volunteers for extra help of which there are only a few services available.

FD needs to change the name of this board to OZINTOLERANCE.

Does every thread in this forum have to be taken up with racism, hatred and vilification?

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Reply #2 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 9:37am
 

Seems to be the season for it, doesn't it?

The xenophobes are all off their leashes.
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Reply #3 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 9:46am
 
Way to go Mantra. Shoot the messanger. A question was asked.

Better cut back on the apologist pills I think. You're starting to lose the ability to distinguish between questions and debate and racial comments. It's the sort of rot that has stifled any sensible debate in this country.
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Reply #4 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 9:48am
 
Fortunately many of our younger people don't feel this way and according to the news today - there is something like 27% of children attending Australian schools who come from non-English speaking backgrounds.

By the time they grow up - this sort of xenophobia will be a thing of the past in Australia.

Young Australian women also seem to be gaining a preference for foreign born young men - so perhaps this could be another reason for the hatred expressed by their parents' generation.
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Reply #5 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 9:49am
 
Oh good. The guy that can't criticise or objectively comment on his own religion or bretheren showed up. I've really been put in my place now. Grin
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Reply #6 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 9:53am
 
Yes mantra, islam forum also should be renamed to jewphob forum and anybody supportive of Israel should be banned from there so you and your friendly mohamedians can practice jewphobia in peace and tranquillity.

As for repudiation by cenrlink can you source it?
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Better cut back on the apologist pills I think. You're starting to lose the ability to distinguish between questions and debate and racial comments. It's the sort of rot that has stifled any sensible debate in this country


Yes - you are right Locutius - it was only a question and I reacted angrily.  My apologies, but this forum which used to be so diverse is now obsessed and over-run with either anti-Muslim rhetoric or vilification of refugees.

Why do you think the vilification of Muslims is sensible debate?  The only one debating it sensibly is Abu.  Most of the posts - not yours - but others are just hate attacks on Islam, yet not a negative word can be uttered about Christianity with all its faults.

Free speech means I can also give my opinion and just because some don't like it - that's their problem.
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As for repudiation by cenrlink can you source it?


Yes I can Tallow - but I couldn't be bothered.  I did it once before here.  It's easy enough to look up yourself.
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mantra wrote on Feb 6th, 2009 at 9:55am:
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Yes I can Tallow - but I couldn't be bothered.  I did it once before here.  It's easy enough to look up yourself.



Yea right you only can be bothered to right something that you can't be bothered to confirm.

BTW, your jewphobic mates lestat and abu have only themselves to blame for disrepute that they caused to their own ideology.

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Reply #10 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 10:15am
 
Here's the information Tallow, but I notice my thread on the massive increase on pedophile priests and pastors in Australia has been overlooked.  Much easier to abuse those who aren't Christian.

There is also other information on how Centrelink is putting refugees immediately on Newstart, while they're trying to learn English - they have to look for 16 jobs a fortnight which is contrary to Social Security Law. 

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The myth
The baseless claims try to create confusion and discontent, alleging that refugees in Australia receive significantly more financial support than age pensioners.

“These claims are completely false and deliberately try to divide our community by gutter wedge politics”.

The campaign, which operates through the internet, emails, blogs and chat rooms, claims that refugees receive $2,500 in welfare payments each month and suggests senior Australians would be better off as refugees.

“The claims have been repeated in numerous media stories over the past year and the urban legend even has its own Wikipedia page outlining the campaign’s origins in Canada and the United States.

“I’m very disappointed people are continuing to perpetuate these myths – it’s only causing unnecessary concern and angst among both refugee groups and age pensioners.

The facts
Senator Ludwig said refugees to Australia do not receive higher rates of payment than age pensioners.

“In fact, there are no separate rates of payment for refugees and they are not eligible for more assistance from Centrelink than any other customer,” said Senator Ludwig.

“As with any Centrelink customer, the rate of payments available to a refugee depends upon individual circumstances. As an example, a refugee who qualifies for Age Pension, would receive exactly the same rate as an Australian citizen whose income, assets and relationship circumstances were the same.

“I would encourage anyone who receives these messages to reply and tell the sender they have been the victim of a hoax.”

National Refugee week

“These deliberately false allegations also detract from the spirit of National Refugee Week, a time to reflect on the challenges faced by those forced to flee their own countries, hoping to find a better life here in Australia.

Senator Ludwig said Centrelink would continue to play a key role in helping refugees establish new lives and a secure home in Australia.

National Refugee Week (June 15-June 21) is this year themed “A Place to Call Home”. Since the end of World War II Australia has provided a safe haven to more than 700,000 refugees

“It’s never easy to pack up and start a new life in a country where you don’t know the language or culture, even more so if you’ve suffered torture and trauma.

“Centrelink and its teams of specialist such as the Refugee Servicing Team and Multicultural Service Officers understand the challenges faced by refugees. Many of these officers have themselves arrived in Australia as refugees from war-torn countries.

“They work closely with a range of Government and community based organisations to help refugees make their transition into Australia easier.

“Centrelink offers immediate access to support payments and services including interpreters, social workers, psychologists, a Multilingual Call Centre, multilingual fact sheets and brochures in nearly 70 different languages as well as access to English language and literacy classes. Centrelink plays a key role in assisting refugees to find employment”.

For more information about the Refugee Servicing Team or any of Centrelink’s assistance to Multicultural Australians go to www.centrelink.gov.au, call 13 1202, or see the staff at your local Centrelink Customer Service Centre.


http://www.alp.org.au/media/0608/mshs180.php
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Reply #11 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 10:47am
 
It's a load of bollocks.
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Reply #12 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 11:03am
 
Thank you, mantra. See how easy it is to stay on the topic and to support your claims if you can be bothered.

They do sound a little bit self contradictory in the article when they state that refugees get exactly the same as australians but later talk about extras: like "and services including interpreters, social workers, psychologists, a Multilingual Call Centre, multilingual fact sheets and brochures in nearly 70 different languages as well as access to English language and literacy classes".

Anyway I don't see it as a major issue as it is designed to help integration into our society while, IMHO, major issue is unwillingness of some groups to integrate.

Thanks again for the link.
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Reply #13 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 11:11am
 
I'm not sure what the load of bollocks is that FD is referring to - but as far as Centrelink extra services go - that's a load of bollocks.

A lot of these services were outsourced and there have been many complaints about refugees just being dumped and left to fend for themselves.  The few reliable services they depend upon are usually by volunteer organisations.

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Reply #14 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 11:24am
 
mantra wrote on Feb 6th, 2009 at 11:11am:
I'm not sure what the load of bollocks is that FD is referring to - but as far as Centrelink extra services go - that's a load of bollocks.

A lot of these services were outsourced and there have been many complaints about refugees just being dumped and left to fend for themselves.  The few reliable services they depend upon are usually by volunteer organisations.


I think that outsourcing means that centrelink pays for these services instead of providing them. Actually that's probably where the thing about extra money came from.

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