Quote:No but it does balance it up doesn't it... oh dishonest one.
Balance is irrelevant, it still quite clearly states that the husband has authority over the body of his wife. This quite clearly means he is free to have sex with her whenever he pleases, as he's in the position of authority to do so.
Unless of course you have a new definition for authority?
Quote:Well know it doesn't. Doesn't mention rape anywher..
Thank you, and neither do the Islamic texts. Doesn't stop you from making wild accusations though.
Quote:BTW would you force your wife to have sex if she didn't want to/ If she wasn't in the mood? Is that love? Is that respectful?
Of course I would not, I find the idea repulsive, as I'm sure so would Abu Hamza, that doesn't appear to have been the intent of his speech, anymore than it was the intent of Paul in the Letter to the Corinthians.
Quote:One you ran away from because of your ignorance.
I never ran away from it, because I never even practised it. Like most Australians I couldn't have cared less about religion in my youth, I just thought it was a waste of time and load of fairytales from ancient times.
Quote:Well its still the biggest Religion in the Western world.
Maybe by official statistics, but as far as actual practise goes, I'd dispute that. And that's why Christians in the West are worried. When churches start getting sold to Muslims to turn into Mosques, they get all up in arms... well nobody attends church, that's why they end up selling them! Whilst Muslims are attending mosques at ever increasing rates.
I don't blame you for being jealous of Islam, after all, it's actually in such a period of growth and revival, whilst Christianity is nothing but a fading memory for most, a reminder of a long gone past.
Quote:I don't think Islam will ever become a major religion in this country short of importing or breeding more Muslims.
If Muslims keeping coming and breeding at their current rates, we wouldn't become a majority for about another 1000 years, so I wouldn't worry too much about that... oops, hate to spoil your delusions of being ;swamped' and 'outbred'.
The fact is a lot of Aussies are embracing Islam, and you know this is what concerns you about Islam... believe me, don't waste your time being concerned, find out why.
Quote:So why have you just supported such a proposition
Care to show where I did that?
Quote:That's the problem with you people. that's why the world has a problem with Muslims.
You're such a bigot Grendel. You just made this statement based on the false premise I'm supposed to have supported spousal rape, which I most certainly DID NOT. this is a clear indication that your bigotry is based on nothing but irrational fears and falsehoods.
Quote:once was enough.
Obviously it wasn't. You didn't seem to have grasped the concept that "have" means the countries marked in red HAVE spousal rape laws. Don't you feel ashamed, not for the fact of the original oversight, but for not having the basic decency to admit your oversight? Instead continuing on in your ignorance, as if nothing happened? Something you seem to do a lot, like the kid who wouldn't "go out" when playing cricket in the backyard.
Quote:Rape is rape spousal or NOT. if you have laws against RAPE it don't matter who does it
What it means is that in those countries (not marked red, just so you're clear on what the map means), marriage is considered consent, and a husband cannot be charged with rape.
Quote:Yet they did have rapes laws... see above,
Yes but standard rape laws excluded sex inside marriage, as marriage was considered consent for sex. That's why they introduced new legislation, to address this issue. They wouldn't have introduced new legislation, if the existing legislation covered it, as you appear to be claiming.