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Is falsifiability concept scintific?
Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:02pm
 
Is there any experiment possible to disprove falsifiability concept?

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Reply #1 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:05pm
 
No. It is not a theory.
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Reply #2 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:05pm:
No. It is not a theory.


I did not call it theory, it is concept. But is it scientific?
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Reply #3 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:09pm
 
No. It is philosophical.

The standard of falsifiability is usually only applied to theories.
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Reply #4 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:09pm:
No. It is philosophical.

The standard of falsifiability is usually only applied to theories.



Is philosophy of science scientific or metaphysical?
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Reply #5 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:24pm
 
It's not metaphysical or scientific. It is philosophical. Questions like what is maths, what is science, what is history, what is truth, what is religion etc are philosophical. Asking whether the definition of, or philosophy of maths is mathematical kind of misses the point.
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Reply #6 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:32pm
 
What is philosophy does it have any practical use?

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Reply #7 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:34pm
 
Philosophy is the broadest term for knowledge or understanding. People usually use it to describe those issues that don't fit neatly into boxes, like maths, science, history etc.
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Reply #8 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:59pm
 
If philosophy is broader then science because it asks "what is science etc." then by analogy there have to be something that is broader then philosophy because this something questions about "what is philosophy".
But that means that statement that philosophy "is the broadest term for knowledge or understanding" is incorrect.

Of course it also may mean that philosophy itself is beyond questioning rather like a faith.

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Reply #9 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 4:03pm
 
I think that 'what is philosophy?' would be considered a philosophical question. It is probably the first one that is answered in the formal study of philosophy. In that respect it is probably the only field of study that can answer questions about itself.
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Reply #10 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 4:13pm
 
"Self regulation for some but not for others", "elitism", "Animal Farm", etc., etc., etc.?

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Reply #11 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 4:20pm
 
Life's unfair, isn't it?
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Reply #12 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 4:37pm
 
And here we are in the realm of Socratic wild goose chases asking the Socratic questions What is justice, or truth, or morality in itself such that the resultant defintion is irrefutable.

The most famous dialogue in its attempt to define and prove the superiority of philosophy over sophism is The Protagoras where Plato has Socrates take on Protagoras ("man is the measure of all things") the great Sophist teacher of the day. Socrates defence of philosophy is not convincing.

In the Dialogues it's clear that Plato fails in defining these concepts. Plato believed that what we experience as justice or truth etc was a pale reflection of the metaphysical entities he called Forms (or Idea in Greek) which were perfect in themselves. So Justice was a reflection of the form "justiceness". What he never overcame was the argument (called the "third man argument", I think) that suggested that justiceness partook of JUSTICENESS and so on ad infinitum.

I think the tangle that Platonism got itself into was the reason Aristotle deviated from it, declaring "I love Plato, but I love the truth more".

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Reply #13 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 4:45pm
 
I didn't intend to distinguish philosophy from sophism.
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Reply #14 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 5:00pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 4:45pm:
I didn't intend to distinguish philosophy from sophism.

Oh, OK. Back to discussing Popper's theory of falsification, then?
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