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Muslim school plan draws Gold Coast protest
Dec 2nd, 2008 at 8:14am
 
Good stuff - I refuse their islamic ideals.
they can go to any other muslim country if they want that. sympathisers too.




"PROTESTERS have swarmed the Gold Coast City Council headquarters, and with blaring rock anthems vented anger over a planned Muslim school.

Almost 200 residents turned out for the demonstration, draped in Australian flags and shouting pro-Aussie slogans while Australian rock classics such as Down Under and Great Southern Land boomed across the parkland.
The Australian International Islamic College, planned for Carrara, has raised the ire of residents who fear it will lead to the local Muslim population withdrawing from the rest of the community.

A rally last week attracted about 400 people, while people turned out yesterday carrying placards bearing slogans such as "no Muslim school, hell no" and "integration, not segregation".

Resident's spokesman Tony Doherty said Muslim schools did not encourage multiculturalism.

"It's segregation, not integration," he said.

"They're not trying to integrate into the rest of society.

"Since we have started protesting against this our churches have been covered in hate-filled graffiti."

He denied it was hypocritical to oppose Muslim and not Christian schools.

"Catholics aren't a different culture," he said. "They are the same as us."

Some residents say they are opposed to the school more because of parking issues rather than religious grounds.

Mayor Ron Clarke has publicly said he would support the school as long as it satisfies the council's planning criteria.

The council will not make any decision on the future of the school until next year. If approved, the school is unlikely to open until at least the middle of next year."


http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24737109-952,00.html

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Re: Muslim school plan draws Gold Coast protest
Reply #1 - Dec 2nd, 2008 at 8:17am
 
Only 1 of the many replies agreeing with the protestors.


"I've got one in my neighbourhood, near Kuraby, and coupled with the mosque, the suburb has deteriorated from a place where people interacted and said hello to one another, to a place full of rude anti-australians.
People used to care about their properties, now the streets are a veritable rubbish dump.
Anyone who disagrees hasn't seen what has happened in this once friendly suburb.
This isn't about race, it's about religious fanatacism. Now, Kuraby is only friendly to the infidel haters.
Go for it Gold Coast, stick with it, schools like this are racist and will destroy the beauty of the coast

Posted by: Grant W of Brisbane/Stanthorpe 6:13am today
Comment 54 of 109"
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Reply #2 - Dec 5th, 2008 at 8:04pm
 
That's ridiculous. Any school should be subject to education board standards to review what they are teaching, and who is teaching them, so it shouldn't matter what religion they are principled on.

It's very racist and wrong to say no to muslim schools, when various Christian schools are prolific. Christians aren't "us" to everyone.

It's these kind of attitudes that foster minorities to feel like minorities.
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Reply #3 - Dec 5th, 2008 at 8:30pm
 
Flawed Logic wrote on Dec 5th, 2008 at 8:04pm:
That's ridiculous. Any school should be subject to education board standards to review what they are teaching, and who is teaching them, so it shouldn't matter what religion they are principled on.

It's very racist and wrong to say no to muslim schools, when various Christian schools are prolific. Christians aren't "us" to everyone.

It's these kind of attitudes that foster minorities to feel like minorities.



What about muslim school prohibition of singing Australian anthem?

Do other religious schools do this?

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Reply #4 - Dec 5th, 2008 at 8:37pm
 
Flawed Logic wrote on Dec 5th, 2008 at 8:04pm:
It's these kind of attitudes that foster minorities to feel like minorities.

I don't see why minorities shoudl be shielded from the fact that they are minorities.

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Reply #5 - Dec 5th, 2008 at 8:56pm
 
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What about muslim school prohibition of singing Australian anthem?


Well I don't agree with that either.

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Flawed Logic wrote on Today at 8:04pm:
It's these kind of attitudes that foster minorities to feel like minorities.

I don't see why minorities shoudl be shielded from the fact that they are minorities.


That was my pc way of saying, that people who presume that it will Quote:
lead to the local Muslim population withdrawing from the rest of the community
are creating a self-fullfilling prophecy. Although there I go being polite again.

Interestingly, I think that religious or other groups shouldn't segregate themselves, that the best hope for future compatability is to work together. But I don't think this applies to a school. People need good role models and educators to learn from.
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Reply #6 - Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:33pm
 
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What about muslim school prohibition of singing Australian anthem?


Do they actually ban it, or do they just not sing it?
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Reply #7 - Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:59pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:33pm:
Quote:
What about muslim school prohibition of singing Australian anthem?


Do they actually ban it, or do they just not sing it?


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Australian International Islamic College teacher Pravin Chand was sacked in November, four months after his proposal for students to sing Advance Australia Fair was ruled to be against the "Islamic view and ethos".
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The revelations follow an outcry on the Gold Coast this week at a plan by the same college to open another campus at Carrara. A vocal crowd draped in Australian flags accused the college of promoting segregation, anti-Australian values and even terrorism.

Muslim leaders slammed the protests as "un-Australian" and claimed religion should not be used as a reason to protest against a school.

But Mr Chand, whose version of events was backed by a second teacher, said he had not heard the anthem once this year.

"No national anthem to me means no integration with Australian kids," Mr Chand said. "Western values (at the school) are a no-no.

"It's like a paramilitary camp that place."

Mr Chand's employment was terminated by the college board last month on the grounds he was "not fitting into the school's ethos".


But now they removed the ban when put under public scrutiny.
Hurray for sanity.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24754957-26103,00.html
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Re: Muslim school plan draws Gold Coast protest
Reply #8 - Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:39pm
 
tallowood wrote on Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:59pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:33pm:
Quote:
What about muslim school prohibition of singing Australian anthem?


Do they actually ban it, or do they just not sing it?


Quote:
Australian International Islamic College teacher Pravin Chand was sacked in November, four months after his proposal for students to sing Advance Australia Fair was ruled to be against the "Islamic view and ethos".
...
The revelations follow an outcry on the Gold Coast this week at a plan by the same college to open another campus at Carrara. A vocal crowd draped in Australian flags accused the college of promoting segregation, anti-Australian values and even terrorism.

Muslim leaders slammed the protests as "un-Australian" and claimed religion should not be used as a reason to protest against a school.

But Mr Chand, whose version of events was backed by a second teacher, said he had not heard the anthem once this year.

"No national anthem to me means no integration with Australian kids," Mr Chand said. "Western values (at the school) are a no-no.

"It's like a paramilitary camp that place."

Mr Chand's employment was terminated by the college board last month on the grounds he was "not fitting into the school's ethos".


But now they removed the ban when put under public scrutiny.
Hurray for sanity.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24754957-26103,00.html


It would be interesting to know whether other Islamic schools have banned the national anthem and whether they have flown under the radar on this issue. Perhaps the media cannot conduct a full story on this issue with Islamic schools nationwide because they are simply unable to get enough sources for a story.
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Re: Muslim school plan draws Gold Coast protest
Reply #9 - Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:59pm
 
ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:39pm:
tallowood wrote on Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:59pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:33pm:
Quote:
What about muslim school prohibition of singing Australian anthem?


Do they actually ban it, or do they just not sing it?


Quote:
Australian International Islamic College teacher Pravin Chand was sacked in November, four months after his proposal for students to sing Advance Australia Fair was ruled to be against the "Islamic view and ethos".
...
The revelations follow an outcry on the Gold Coast this week at a plan by the same college to open another campus at Carrara. A vocal crowd draped in Australian flags accused the college of promoting segregation, anti-Australian values and even terrorism.

Muslim leaders slammed the protests as "un-Australian" and claimed religion should not be used as a reason to protest against a school.

But Mr Chand, whose version of events was backed by a second teacher, said he had not heard the anthem once this year.

"No national anthem to me means no integration with Australian kids," Mr Chand said. "Western values (at the school) are a no-no.

"It's like a paramilitary camp that place."

Mr Chand's employment was terminated by the college board last month on the grounds he was "not fitting into the school's ethos".


But now they removed the ban when put under public scrutiny.
Hurray for sanity.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24754957-26103,00.html


It would be interesting to know whether other Islamic schools have banned the national anthem and whether they have flown under the radar on this issue. Perhaps the media cannot conduct a full story on this issue with Islamic schools nationwide because they are simply unable to get enough sources for a story.



Yes, this came to the surface only because of Pravin Chand whistle blow.
IMHO, it would be good subject for investigative journalism of all private and public schools of course.
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Re: Muslim school plan draws Gold Coast protest
Reply #10 - Dec 6th, 2008 at 11:25pm
 
tallowood wrote on Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:59pm:
ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:39pm:
tallowood wrote on Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:59pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:33pm:
Quote:
What about muslim school prohibition of singing Australian anthem?


Do they actually ban it, or do they just not sing it?


Quote:
Australian International Islamic College teacher Pravin Chand was sacked in November, four months after his proposal for students to sing Advance Australia Fair was ruled to be against the "Islamic view and ethos".
...
The revelations follow an outcry on the Gold Coast this week at a plan by the same college to open another campus at Carrara. A vocal crowd draped in Australian flags accused the college of promoting segregation, anti-Australian values and even terrorism.

Muslim leaders slammed the protests as "un-Australian" and claimed religion should not be used as a reason to protest against a school.

But Mr Chand, whose version of events was backed by a second teacher, said he had not heard the anthem once this year.

"No national anthem to me means no integration with Australian kids," Mr Chand said. "Western values (at the school) are a no-no.

"It's like a paramilitary camp that place."

Mr Chand's employment was terminated by the college board last month on the grounds he was "not fitting into the school's ethos".


But now they removed the ban when put under public scrutiny.
Hurray for sanity.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24754957-26103,00.html


It would be interesting to know whether other Islamic schools have banned the national anthem and whether they have flown under the radar on this issue. Perhaps the media cannot conduct a full story on this issue with Islamic schools nationwide because they are simply unable to get enough sources for a story.



Yes, this came to the surface only because of Pravin Chand whistle blow.
IMHO, it would be good subject for investigative journalism of all private and public schools of course.


Let's just hope that some journalists follow this story up. They'd be stupid not to. It's a very good story, and it would attract a lot of interest. Even a greedy SOB like Murdoch would agree.

I doubt many Muslims would agree to do the story though.

Maybe the non-existent 'non-Muslims' in this school will step forward and risk expulsion by speaking out?
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Reply #11 - Dec 7th, 2008 at 12:10am
 
flawed logic - Gidday there, how are you ?

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That's ridiculous. Any school should be subject to education board standards to review what they are teaching, and who is teaching them, so it shouldn't matter what religion they are principled on.

It's very racist and wrong to say no to muslim schools, when various Christian schools are prolific. Christians aren't "us" to everyone.

It's these kind of attitudes that foster minorities to feel like minorities.



muslim is not a race.
Interestingly, invariably people who say that they are athiests or "christians are'nt us to everyone" or such a similar statement  are a very spiritual stable person who contributes much to society.
They exhibit, live and agree with fundamantal christian ideals.

All the very best flawed logic.
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Reply #12 - Dec 7th, 2008 at 12:45am
 

Here are a few typically subversive comments by muslims about the islamic schoool banning the Aussie national anthem.

"I agree that it's against Islamic views and ethos, since the "advancing" of Australia "fair" was based on genocide, conolinialism, the theft of land, and indentured labour/effective slavery. "

"As usual a beat up and a massive one at that.'


then it is the usual "is it halal or not" garbage.

This happens after EVERY muslim atrocity, including terrorist attacks.

Course, if someone disagrees, they are deleted/banned. Ask gaybriel.
how  many people disagree there ???
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Reply #13 - Dec 7th, 2008 at 4:01pm
 
Get rid of
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religious schools, I say..................they're nothing but trouble.

School should be about education, home should be about religion.

I know a catholic school that takes in heaps of non catholics and despite their non-religious views they must attend mass (in school time) and can even take communion. Wow, the church has changed. Or is getting people to pay a lot of money for education in their school more important than upholding what catholics consider sacred......the body of christ taken only by dedicated catholics?

MMM.............go figure.
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Reply #14 - Dec 7th, 2008 at 6:56pm
 
Great idea bliss.

No religion in schools.
No thinking in church. Grin
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