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jordan484 wrote on Nov 19
th, 2008 at 11:42am:
Open dialogue and debate cannot be maintained on the Islam forum, that is why you see Islamic topics pop up on other forums and on the main board.
jordan484,
Thank you for your support.
And, you said it well.
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MY COMMENT....
Perhaps some of my posts would be better suited on an 'ISLAM' board.
But it is clearly not possible to have a free and open debate on the ISLAM board, without abu being offended.
....and, i am clearly not welcome there.
....[i have received PM from abu, to that effect.]
Personally i feel that if debate within posts is uncomfortable, it should be!!!
That is the point of debating, complaining, EXPOSING falsehood, lies, deceit,
....on any forum.
Dictionary,
forum = = a meeting or medium for
an exchange of views.
bigot = = a person who is prejudiced in their views
and intolerant of the opinions of others.
OPEN DISCUSSION IS GOOD - FOR ALL.
AIRING INFORMATION WHICH IS CLEARLY TRUE [or which at least which challenges perceived 'stereotypes' ] IS GOOD - FOR ALL.
I would suggest, that if the detractors [of certain comments] on the ISLAM board, such as abu, have a legitimate complaint,
then let they should air it [in the forum], and have their complaint tested in debate!
.....
FOR ALL TO SEE!!!!
Is it unreasonable, to let the forum guests judge, if the points i try to make have any credibility??
And
THAT, is the whole point of having
debate in a forum - i would have thought.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS SELF REGULATING
Open societies do not fear the opinions of fools.
....they rather, EXPOSE and laugh at folly!
In any free and open debate, if a 'position' is absurd, if an 'argument' is absurd,
...then the debater is [often] condemned [within a forum] to all, WITH HIS OWN WORDS.
And that result [i.e.
the exposure of folly] is THE VERY FUNCTION, of free and open debate.
Free and open debate *is meant* to be
A CONTEST OF IDEAS!
....where every folly is revealed, and ridiculed.
And open debate is healthy, to all general freedoms in a society.
Whereas, lies are easily concealed in closed societies,
....*because* these closed societies are places where lies, and falsehood,
....ARE NEVER EXPOSED TO SCRUTINY, OR SPOKEN TRUTH.