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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: democracy Reply #135 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 6:53am abu_rashid wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 8:14pm: ..Clearly your view of reality is severely obscured by your own ignorance. I rest my case.
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Reply #136 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:27pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:00pm:

Honestly fd, grow up, you're such a juvenile, I imagine myself back in primary school listening to the nonsense you come up with.

Abu didn't you once try to argue that you cannot possibly give a straight answer to a simple question about Islam because I was trying to 'cause trouble' between you and another Muslim (who it later turned out you did not even consider to be a Muslim, and who you would have stoned to death for heresy). If you are allowed to disagree with a fellow Sunni why were you so worried about disagreeing with a Shite?

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Reply #137 - Jun 16^th, 2012 at 11:39am

Falah deflecting yet again. This was just after he complained about the situation regarding free speech and democracy in Singapore.

falah wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 11:01am:

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

Falah, do you think that democracy and freedom of speech are important for a society?

I support the right of people to protest against tyranny, corruption and injustice.

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Reply #138 - Jun 16^th, 2012 at 12:51pm

And another one.

falah wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 12:38pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

But you don't support free speech or democracy?

This is a trick question from Freeliar. So I will first ask for some context to that question by asking this question:

Which country has absolute free speech or absolute democracy?

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Reply #139 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 8:59am

And here is Falah having a go at me for not answering questions:

falah wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 11:42pm:

You seem to be having trouble answering my question Freeliar.

This is a bit hypocritical don't you think?

Falah perhaps you should have thought about this before posting about freedom and democracy in Singapore. It is kind of ironic for you to criticise another country's standard of free speech or democracy when you won't even allow yourself to express an opinion on either.

What are you trying to hide?

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Reply #140 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:10pm

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 8:59am:

And here is Falah having a go at me for not answering questions:

falah wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 11:42pm:

You seem to be having trouble answering my question Freeliar.

This is a bit hypocritical don't you think?

Falah perhaps you should have thought about this before posting about freedom and democracy in Singapore. It is kind of ironic for you to criticise another country's standard of free speech or democracy when you won't even allow yourself to express an opinion on either.

What are you trying to hide?

Freeliar, I was not posting about democracy in Singapore. I was posting about oppression in Singapore.

Democracy does not equal freedom.

Plenty of democratic states are oppressive.

The Holocaust was carried out under the rule of a democratically-elected leader.

The stolen-generation oppression occurred under an Australian democratic system.iDemocracy brings evils like George Bush, Richard Nixon, Adolf Hitler, John Howard, Silvio Berlusconi, Tony Blair, Benjamin Netanyahu, Ariel Sharon, Nicolas Sarkozy, Joh Bjelke-Petersen, etc.

WWII, the Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and first Gulf War were all started by democracies.

Besides, there is no truly democratic state.

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Reply #141 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:12pm

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Democracy brings evils like George Bush, Richard Nixon, Adolf Hitler, John Howard, Silvio Berlusconi, Tony Blair, Benjamin Netanyahu, Ariel Sharon, Nicolas Sarkozy, Joh Bjelke-Petersen, etc.

Dont get confused they are just puppets that help maintain the veil of 'democracy'. You are not going to wake these idiots up, they are too committed now to admit the truth even when they may know it.

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Reply #142 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:41pm

falah wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:10pm:

Freeliar, I was not posting about democracy in Singapore. I was posting about oppression in Singapore.

The first opinion you offered in the thread was that Singapore should be freed from it's 'elected' leaders.

falah wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:10pm:

Democracy brings evils like George Bush, Richard Nixon, Adolf Hitler, John Howard, Silvio Berlusconi, Tony Blair, Benjamin Netanyahu, Ariel Sharon, Nicolas Sarkozy, Joh Bjelke-Petersen, etc.

Do you oppose democracy in principle? What would you replace it with?

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Reply #143 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:49pm

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:41pm:

falah wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:10pm:

Freeliar, I was not posting about democracy in Singapore. I was posting about oppression in Singapore.

The first opinion you offered in the thread was that Singapore should be freed from it's 'elected' leaders.

"Elected" in phony elections in the context of a country which has no independent media and no anonymous ballot voting, detention without trial, a judiciary that always sides with the government, little transparency and repression of any protest or political activity aimed at unseating the regime.

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:41pm:

falah wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:10pm:

Democracy brings evils like George Bush, Richard Nixon, Adolf Hitler, John Howard, Silvio Berlusconi, Tony Blair, Benjamin Netanyahu, Ariel Sharon, Nicolas Sarkozy, Joh Bjelke-Petersen, etc.

Do you oppose democracy in principle? What would you replace it with?

There are many different types of democracy. So I will not give a blanket statement regarding all.

Democracy is not the solution.

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Reply #145 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 1:32pm

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

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There are many different types of democracy. So I will not give a blanket statment regarding all.

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Democracy is not the solution.

You appear to be contradicting yourself again Falah. Anyway, while you are in the mood for blanket atatments, what is the solution?

Islam is the solution.

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Reply #146 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 1:52pm

falah wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 1:32pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

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There are many different types of democracy. So I will not give a blanket statment regarding all.

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Democracy is not the solution.

You appear to be contradicting yourself again Falah. Anyway, while you are in the mood for blanket atatments, what is the solution?

Islam is the solution.

Lol. Replace governments elected by the people with some fascist system based on an invisible sky pixie.

How did you graduate from university?
Let me guess, you graduated from the Humanities or Social Sciences?

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Reply #147 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 2:00pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

falah wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 1:32pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

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There are many different types of democracy. So I will not give a blanket statment regarding all.

Quote:

Democracy is not the solution.

You appear to be contradicting yourself again Falah. Anyway, while you are in the mood for blanket atatments, what is the solution?

Islam is the solution.

Lol. Replace governments elected by the people with some fascist system based on an invisible sky pixie.

How did you graduate from university?
Let me guess, you graduated from the Humanities or Social Sciences?

Haha you can say what you want about Islamic rule but don't try and lie to people and say we or they have a democracy

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Reply #148 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 2:02pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

falah wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 1:32pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

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There are many different types of democracy. So I will not give a blanket statment regarding all.

Quote:

Democracy is not the solution.

You appear to be contradicting yourself again Falah. Anyway, while you are in the mood for blanket atatments, what is the solution?

Islam is the solution.

Lol. Replace governments elected by the people with some fascist system based on an invisible sky pixie.

How did you graduate from university?
Let me guess, you graduated from the Humanities or Social Sciences?

Haha you can say what you want about Islamic rule but don't try and lie to people and say we or they have a democracy

Then why do people vote them in?

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Reply #149 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 2:05pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 1:52pm:

falah wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 1:32pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Quote:

There are many different types of democracy. So I will not give a blanket statment regarding all.

Quote:

Democracy is not the solution.

You appear to be contradicting yourself again Falah. Anyway, while you are in the mood for blanket atatments, what is the solution?

Islam is the solution.

Lol. Replace governments elected by the people with some fascist system based on an invisible sky pixie.

How did you graduate from university?
Let me guess, you graduated from the Humanities or Social Sciences?

Haha you can say what you want about Islamic rule but don't try and lie to people and say we or they have a democracy

Then why do people vote them in?

Yes voting really does legitimise it doesn't it.

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