Australian Politics Forum - democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan

freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47446 At my desk.	democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan Nov 12^th, 2008 at 10:13pm How are the locals in Iraq and Afghanistan responding to democracy? How much of a barrier did Islam turn out to be?
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abu_rashid

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Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan
Reply #1 - Nov 12^th, 2008 at 10:42pm

Firstly, by democracy, do you just mean popularly elected l;eader? Or do you mean the ideology of democracy?

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How much of a barrier did Islam turn out to be?

If you meant just popularly electing a leader, then Islam wouldn't be a barrier, but then again, I don't believe either leader is popularly elected. They're quite obviously elected by the USA.

If you mean the ideology of democracy, then the Islamic resistance groups have certainly been resisting it and I really don't think it's infected the peoples minds, if that's what you were hoping for.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan Reply #2 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 6:02am Popular election of a leader isn't democracy... As for your conspiranut theories with a Muslim bent re US electing their leaders...
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan Reply #3 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 6:27am Quote: As for your conspiranut theories with a Muslim bent re US electing their leaders... What is this incomprehensible babble? Can you speak in proper English please.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan Reply #4 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 7:10am plain enough for me... get a dictionary... oh conspiranut... is my term for people who believe in conspiracy theories with no basis in fact.
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Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan
Reply #5 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 8:17am

Grendel wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 7:10am:

plain enough for me...

get a dictionary...
oh conspiranut... is my term for people who believe in conspiracy theories with no basis in fact.

Plain as mud.

How bout you speak english? If you can't coherently speak the language then perhaps you should go back to your own country. Maybe this country isn't for you.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan Reply #6 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 8:31am I'm sorry Lestat if you have COMPREHENSION difficulties perhaps if you ask nicely and point out where you are having difficulties. I or some other nice Australian might try to explain it to you.
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Lestat

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Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan
Reply #7 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 8:38am

Grendel wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 8:31am:

I'm sorry Lestat if you have COMPREHENSION difficulties perhaps if you ask nicely and point out where you are having difficulties. I or some other nice Australian might try to explain it to you.

You've already admitted to making up new words. It has nothing to do with comprehension. If you cannot express your self with existing english words, then obviously it is you with the problem.

You posts seem regularly incoherent..you've already admitted above that you make up words to bring your point accross..I suspect this has something to do with perhaps English being your second language, and you seem to struggle to come up with existing words to communicate your point, so you make them up.

Hence, I suggest you learn the language before you choose to make Australia your home, if not, then go back to your own native country.

Cheers. Wink

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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan Reply #8 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 8:48am I have never had a problem with the portmanteau conspiranut. Maybe you aren't smart enough to get it Lestat? I doubt you ever will be.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan Reply #9 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 8:53am easel, It's not the word he coined, but the whole sentence itself. Just doesn't make a lot of sense.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan Reply #10 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 9:36am Gee, you're a player, Grendel... You like to work the line a bit....
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan Reply #11 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 9:42am Well predictably lestat has failed.. (On many levels) I'm sorry Aboo if you have COMPREHENSION difficulties perhaps if you ask nicely and point out where you are having difficulties. I or some other nice Australian might try to explain it to you.
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skippy

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Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan
Reply #12 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 10:44am

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2008 at 10:13pm:

How are the locals in Iraq and Afghanistan responding to democracy?

How much of a barrier did Islam turn out to be?

Well some are happy whilst many are not, thats why there is death and bombings on a daily basis.
The west need to get out of BOTH countries, Afghanistan has been going for seven years and will go on for another seventy if the western troops stay there, both wars are unwinable, we should cut oue loses and save our money for more important things like our DEFENCE rather than invasion forces.
If those Arab nations who dont like the west want to fight us well let them pay for all the troop ships and costs of invasions, they wont do it, cant afford it, so they'll resort to terrorism instead, but arn't they doing that already?
Besides, didn't the west invade Ahghanistan seven years ago to get Bin laden and remove the taliban?
Well we're still fighting the Taliban and where's Bin ladin?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan Reply #13 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 11:00am Agree with you there Skippy... oh and hate to tell you but that ON person David Oldfield does too.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan Reply #14 - Nov 13^th, 2008 at 11:26am Nice post skippy. Also just to add, the invasions actually spawned hundreds of militant Islamic groups, yet didn't stamp out one.
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