Stratos wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 10:54pm:



Stratos,

I have no quarrel with God, and with what God ordered the Israelites to do.

God is a lot wiser than me.




Stratos,

Do you understand why God ordered the Israelites to destroy those 6 nations ?





Did you know, that [among many other things] the people of those nations took their sons and their daughters, to 'community' 'barbecues' ?

Do you know, what was 'barbecued' and eaten there ?

The people of those nations committed great and horrible crimes before God.iLeviticus 18:24
Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25  And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26  Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27  (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)
28  That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.
29  For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
30  Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God.

The argument that men like you make [and it is always the same argument!], is that it is wrong to trust the judgement [and instruction] of God.

That, instead, we should rely upon the judgement [and instruction] of men/man, and that, because we have our own best interests at heart.



Go for it!          

It has worked out really, really well, so far!!!   NOT!         i
Psalms 9:10
And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, LORD, hast not forsaken them that seek thee.


Psalms 118:8
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.


Proverbs 29:25
The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe.


Psalms 25:14
The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.

Stratos wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2013 at 6:42am:



You still don't see it Stratos, ....that we are all 'babies and children' in God's eyes.

We are all his creation.

And when our physical body dies, our spirit will be released from these earthen prisons [and return to God!].




But getting back to the genocide....



You say "No!".

I say, of course he does.





Genesis 18:16
And the men rose up from thence, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went with them to bring them on the way.
17  And the LORD said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;
18  Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?
19  For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.
20  And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
21  I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.
22  And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD.
23  And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
24  Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?
25  That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
26  And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.
27  And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes:
28  Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.
29  And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty's sake.
30  And he said unto him, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there.
31  And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty's sake.
32  And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake.
33  And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.





Ecclesiastes 2:12
And I turned myself to behold wisdom, and madness, and folly: for what can the man do that cometh after the king? even that which hath been already done.
13  Then I saw that wisdom excelleth folly, as far as light excelleth darkness.
14  The wise man's eyes are in his head; but the fool walketh in darkness: and I myself perceived also that one event happeneth to them all.
15  Then said I in my heart, As it happeneth to the fool, so it happeneth even to me; and why was I then more wise? Then I said in my heart, that this also is vanity.
16  For there is no remembrance of the wise more than of the fool for ever; seeing that which now is in the days to come shall all be forgotten. And how dieth the wise man? as the fool.




Jeremiah 9:23
Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:
24  But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.






Stratos,

If you want to fight against God, if you want to judge God,
....do you really believe that you are qualified, to justly judge what God does ?


And if you will, you can condemn me too.

Because i do not [will not] oppose what God chooses to do.

Stratos wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2013 at 9:44am:


If that is what you have determined.


Psalms 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2  The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
3  They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
4  Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.
5  There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.
6  Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the LORD is his refuge.
7  Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the LORD bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.

Those who lie and murder.i
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Stratos,

You are a very virtuous person it cannot be denied.         

Your 'tolerance' and 'understanding' knowns no limit.






And i am sorry for you.




John 3:3
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4  Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8  The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.


John 3:31
He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

Yadda wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2013 at 10:41am:


including women, children and babies.  I'm sure all those newborn bubs were guilty of....

No wait, nothing.  They have done nothing to deserve their fate as ordained by God
Yadda wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2013 at 10:41am:



And funnily enough that makes me more of a Christian than you

Matthew 5

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Yadda wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2013 at 10:45am:


Gee, Y, are they the original tablets given to Moses? What are they doing in someone's backyard?

Didn't Satan appear to Christ in the desert after 40 days and 40 nights of fasting?  Not too much darkness in the desert.

Grendel, you thinly veiled repeat of the same hackneyed old attacks on Islam merely show your prejudices.