freediver wrote on Oct 26
th, 2008 at 12:39pm:
This came up in the concubine thread, and a few others.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1224850702Under what conditions may Muslims take slaves?
I had been lead to believe that it could only occur through war, and that wars could only be fought when outsiders attacked Muslims. However Abu et al were very vague about what the actual conditions were. Also, in the
freediver,
WAR #1
ISLAM
is at war......
.....with all ppl who endorse and support un-ISLAMIC political systems.
This war against 'unbelievers' exists because [don't ya know?] all un-ISLAMIC political systems, are 'oppressing' muslims,
because non-muslims are making devout muslims subject to secular, un-ISLAMIC laws.
This is very, very, unjust!
And this is why the existence of un-ISLAMIC nations, and systems of government, is offensive to all devout muslims.
All mankind must be made subject to ISLAMIC law, Sharia.
And when muslims are strong enough, that is what they will seek to accomplish.
If only those non-muslims would surrender [now], and adopt Sharia, and give all authority to muslims, then we would all enjoy the peace of ISLAM.
/sarc off
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WAR #2
ISLAM demands intolerance of the Jahiliyya [an un-ISLAMIC] lifestyle."THE RIGHT TO JUDGE""It is not the function of Islam to compromise with the concepts of Jahiliyya
which are current in the world
or to co-exist in the same land together with a jahili system........"
by SAYYID QUTB
http://www.islamworld.net/justice.html"....Jahiliyya is a result of the lack of Sharia law, without which Islam cannot exist;"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahiliyya#Jahiliyya_in_contemporary_society+++++++
WAR #3
Here with clarity, ISLAMIST 'logic' and 'intent', is explained,
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels"......[resorting] to force to disseminate Islam
is not war (harb), a word that is used only to describe the use of force by non-Muslims. Islamic wars are not hurub (the plural of harb) but rather futuhat,
acts of "opening" the world to Islam and expressing Islamic jihad. Relations between dar al-Islam, the home of peace, and dar al-harb, the world of unbelievers, nevertheless take place in a state of war, according to the Qur'an and to the authoritative commentaries of Islamic jurists.
Unbelievers who stand in the way, CREATING OBSTACLES FOR THE DA'WA, ARE BLAMED FOR THIS STATE OF WAR, for the da'wa can be pursued peacefully if others submit to it. IN OTHER WORDS, THOSE WHO RESIST ISLAM CAUSE WARS and are responsible for them......
Aggression is something only infidels do.
.....
it is not seen as aggression or war when Muslims attack non-Muslims. On the contrary, it is seen as aggression when non-Muslims resist the Islamization of their lands and thus "place obstacles in the way" of the spread of Islam. They are defying the will of Allah.......
subjugation to Islam alone can bring peace.....
......[To the ISLAMIST mind, 'aggression' is...] When non-Muslims do anything to preserve their culture and resist the Islamization of their country."
http://wolfgangbruno.blogspot.com/2006/07/islamic-dictionary-for-infidels.html+++++++
WAR #4
DIVISIONS OF THE WORLD, ACCORDING TO ISLAMDar al-Islam = = the house of Islam, house of Peace [those places where Sharia has authority].http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam#Dar_al-IslamDar al-Harb = = "house of war", those countries where Sharia does not rule.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam#Dar_al-HarbHarbi = = "one under a declaration of war", a non-muslim, WHO DOES NOT LIVE UNDER MUSLIM RULE.".........A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi