jordan484 wrote on Oct 14
th, 2008 at 7:09pm:
Yeah, apologies on that one, but it just illustrated my point.
But thats just it...it didn't illustrate your point at all.
jordan484 wrote on Oct 14
th, 2008 at 7:09pm:
Doesn't matter, the end result is still the same.
Yes it does....your post clearly highlighted the 'apparent' threat of muslims enforcing their beliefs onto others. In this example, those making the decisions were non-muslims, not muslims.
jordan484 wrote on Oct 14
th, 2008 at 7:09pm:
Clearly you do if non-muslims are doing your demanding for you.
Perhaps you ought to direct your angst at the non-muslims making the decisions then.
jordan484 wrote on Oct 14
th, 2008 at 7:09pm:
So? Your very presence is more than enough.
Now your really struggling.
jordan484 wrote on Oct 14
th, 2008 at 7:09pm:
No, it doesn't.
Hence your point is invalid, this is not an example of muslims forcing their beliefs onto others, but non-muslims forcing muslim beliefs onto others. If you have a problem..take it up with those making the decisions.
jordan484 wrote on Oct 14
th, 2008 at 7:09pm:
Catering to a religion and the people in that religion is one thing (which I'm still not too pro on) but forcing people who are not in that religion to observe the same rules is abhorrent.
Forced by non-muslims...not muslims. A decision made by non-muslims...not muslims.
jordan484 wrote on Oct 14
th, 2008 at 7:09pm:
The only way to show respect is to do as muslims do is it? Where's the respect from muslims then? You certainly wouldn't change what you do or believe for any other religion or culture why should anyone do the same for you.
I don't want anyone to change their beliefs for me...so I'm not really sure what you are on about. I just spent a month fasting, plenty of my work friends would apologise for eating in front of me...I told them not to be silly, and that really the have nothing to apologise for.
So you want me to change what I believe do you....is this what its all about. Well done....once again your showing your true colors.
jordan484 wrote on Oct 14
th, 2008 at 7:09pm:
I most certainly will not. Showing respect by making allowances for people who observe these religious customs is one thing, making others adhere to them is a different thing entirely. I'm certain respect can be shown without having to partake in the same ritual or custom. That's way over the top.
I have already highlighted that the fact is the allowences were ordered and made by non-muslims. Of course I don't expect you to show respect, because respect only often comes from those who are respectful...which pretty much rules you out.
Your angst in this instance is quite clearly misdirected. It was non-muslims who made these decisions, and made these orders.....not muslims...therefore, clearly, once again...you have no point.
I'm sure there are plenty of examples out there of muslims enforcing there beliefs onto others...after all, there 1.2 Billion muslims in the world, and if you look hard enough, you could probably find examples of all religons/cultures enforcing their beliefs onto others.
But unfortunately for you...the one example you did find, isnt one of those examples.