Sufism, sodomy and Satan
By Spengler

Sigmund Freud thought that everything was about sex, and he was half right. Rarely is love so spiritual that it does not also stir the loins, for human beings are creatures not only of soul but of body. Although it is thought rude to say so nowadays, different kinds of love belong to different kinds of sex. Not even Hell can resist divine love, J W Goethe showed in the funniest vignette in all literature: his devil, Mephistopheles, is disabled by an obsessive lust for the cherubs sent to claim the soul of Faust in the drama’s penultimate scene. Heavenly beauty, that is, reduces the crafty demon to a pathetic old pervert, in a tableau not fit for a family newspaper.[1]

Goethe’s creepily convincing portrait of a pederastic devil in Faust (1832) drew on the poet’s earlier study of Persian love poetry of the High Middle Ages,[2] where “as a rule, the beloved is not a woman, but a young man”, according to the leading Persian historian Ehsan Yar-Shater. Islamic mysticism (Sufism) of the High Middle Ages is the only case in which a mainstream current of a major world religion preached pederasty as a path to spiritual enlightenment. A vast literature documents this, and a great deal of it is available online.

Sufi adoration of pre-pubescent boys “persisted in many Islamic countries until very recent times,” according to the Orientalist Helmut Ritter.[3] The Afghan penchant for dancing boys in female costume, shown in the 2007 film The Kite Runner, is the last vestige of a Sufi practice that has been long suppressed by both the Sunni and Shi’ite branches of Islam. Sufism has a reputation in Western pop culture as a kinder and gentler branch of Islam. It is not a different kind of Islam, but rather Islam’s mystical practice, to which the adage applies, “by their fruits shall ye know them.”

Controversy persists over what is “authentic Sufism”. The Turkish organization of Fethallah Gulen claims millions of members and doubtless is the largest self-styled Sufi organization in the world. The American Sufi convert Stephen Schwartz has dismissed it as a “cult”,[4] while Michael Rubin of the American Enterprise Institute warns that Gulen may become the Turkish Khomeini. Given Turkey’s turn towards political Islam (Turkey in the throes of Islamic revolution?, Jul 22, 2008), the world is likely to find out a great deal more about Sufism in the near future, and well may be dismayed by what it learns.

In contrast to the Judeo-Christian West, where marriage has been a metaphor for God’s love since the Biblical Song of Songs, homosexual pederasty was normative for the Sufi philosopher-poets of Islam’s golden age in Central Asia. For Christians, the earthly adumbration of God’s love was nuptial, but pederastic in Muslim Persia. The classic Persian poets, including Hafez[5] and Rumi,[6] pined for beardless boys while their European contemporaries wrote sonnets to women. Some apologists claim that the Sufi practice of “contemplation of the beardless” was a chaste spiritual exercise, but an Egyptian proverb warns: “In his father's home a boy's chastity is safe, but let him become a dervish [Sufi adept] and the buggers will queue up behind him.”[7]

Sufi pedophilia cannot be dismissed as a remnant of the old tribal practices that Islam often incorporated, for example, female genital mutilation. Genital mutilation is a pre-Islamic practice unknown in the ancient and modern West. Even though some Muslim authorities defend it on the basis of Hadith, no one has ever claimed that it offered a path to enlightenment. Sadly, pedophiles are found almost everywhere. In its ascendancy, Sufism made a definitive spiritual experience out of a practice considered criminally aberrant in the West. But pederasty as a spiritual exercise is not essentially different in character from the furtive practices of Western perverts. As the psychiatrists explain, pederasty is an expression of narcissism, the love of an idealized youthful self-image.

Sufism seeks one-ness with the universe through spiritual exercises that lead individual consciousness to dissolve into the cosmos. But nothing is more narcissistic than the contemplation of the cosmos, for if we become one with the cosmos, what we love in the cosmos is simply an idealized image of ourselves. An idealized self-image is also what attracts the aging lecher to the adolescent boy. That is the secret of Sufi as well as other pederasty, for pederasty is an extreme expression of self-love. That is the conventional psychiatric view; Freud for example wrote of the “basic narcissism of the vast majority of pederasts … proceeding as from narcissism, they seek their own image in young people.”


Read the rest here:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JH12Ak03.html

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 17^th, 2008 at 9:32pm:

Looks like it. Well, not since 1683, anyway, you can't. (Another story.)

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It is so pitifully easy sometimes and I am merely one of a cast of dozens here, my dear zealot of a convert.

Pederasty in the Middle East and Central Asia -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_the_Islamic_world

And that's just Wiki - comes with lots of refernces, though, that you may wish to check.

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The article obviously touched ona a well-know raw nerve.

This is not an attack on Islam. It is a view of Islam, Sufi poetry in particular.The choice is not zealotry or attack.

Everything in the Gardens will be for the enjoyment of their residents. In them, their male residents will have companions who will provide them with immense pleasure without feeling shame or dislike of their clients. Bashful with dark eyes and virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches (the Quran; 37:48 & 49), and as young as the men themselves (the Quran; 38:52), the companions (Hurs) will provide them constant company and sex.


Those men who will not have interest in sex with the female Hurs, Allah has made arrangement for them as well: they shall be attended by boys graced with eternal youth, who to the beholder’s eyes will seem like sprinkled pearls. When their clients will gaze upon that scene (what scene it will be is not known), they will behold a kingdom blissful and glorious (The Quran; 76:19-20, as translated by N. J. Dawood). Those boys will be wearing fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with bracelets of silver. Allah will make them drunk (cf. the Quran; 76:21), so that they can serve their clients to their entire satisfaction.

Q: So what happens to the wives of Muslim men who get to heaven?

A: They will chase their husbands to satisfy their sexual needs, as Allah has created no beings, such as male Hurs, to attend to them. But their husbands will not oblige them, for they will remain busy with the beautiful and virgin Hurs all the time. Under such a situation, the good Muslim women will have to depend on each other to meet their sexual needs.

Q:  There is a lot of sexual action going here. So in Islam, sexual desire obviously remains in humans when their souls get to heaven. Let me get all this straight: Muslim males will be having sex with either Hurs or little boys and since they will be busy doing this, their wives will be having sex with each other?

A: Orgies will always take place in the Gardens. With their male residents’ desire for sex always remaining present in them due to the presence in their midst of, perhaps, naked Hurs, they will have nothing to do, but to have sex with them with no barriers to shield their activity from the next copulating man and Hur. Fathers will be having sex with the Hurs before the eyes of their sons and daughters, and sons will be having sex before their fathers and mothers, if they entered the Gardens. The allurement of booty in their earthly life and the prospect of being able to engage in orgies in their next life brought many Pagans to Islam, thus making Allah successful in His mission against their religion.


Muslims believe in every word of the Quran, as it is from Allah. Many of them wish to die as martyrs so that they can drink and have sex with the Hurs. Not to make them wait, until the Day of Judgment, to enjoy the bliss He has promised to Muslims, Allah transports the martyrs to the Garden as soon as they lay down their lives in His cause.


Other than Muslims, no one else can believe that orgies will take place in the Gardens and that humans will live in them like beasts.

typical derogatory remark from a muslim moderator

Does anyone mind if I change tangent here and ask....

Is it the case that Muslim men are highly sexual or encouraged to be highly sexual?

I do not ask about homosexual pratices, but rather a hetrosexual sexuality.

Lust is encouraged when they are married though isn't it?

easel,

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Married Muslims are encouraged to enjoy themselves with their spouses, as we are encouraged to fulfill all of our needs within the halal (permissible) bounds, rather than through the harom (forbidden).

Sex in Islam is considered an act of worship, as it is fulfilling the sexual desires within the permissible boundaries, rather than outside of them.

Allah made laws that suited His mission and whims. He prescribed death sentence for the lesbians (the Quran; 4:15), but requires the enforcers of His laws to set the homosexuals free, if they repent their sin, perhaps, with a pat on their wrists (the Quran; 16). This privilege is not available to the lesbians. Why?


According to Prophet Muhammad, women are an affliction and there is nothing more harmful for men than women (see Hadith in volume 7, Book 62, Number 33). He made this observation after being inspired by Allah, for he never said or did anything during his prophetic career without His consent, or permission.