Australian Politics Forum - Veronica Guerin

bliss Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95 Canberra Gender:	Veronica Guerin Aug 26^th, 2008 at 9:00pm An example of a woman who stood up and died for what she believed in and made a positive difference to individuals and the community. She died for exposing 'wrong' and pursuing 'right'..........a brave and honorable person. http://www.freemedia.at/Heroes_IPIReport2.00/20Guerin.htm
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Exotic Cheese Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 82	Re: Veronica Guerin Reply #1 - Aug 26^th, 2008 at 9:57pm Seems like she didn't know when to quit...
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bliss Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95 Canberra Gender:	Re: Veronica Guerin Reply #2 - Aug 27^th, 2008 at 8:10pm Exotic Cheese wrote on Aug 26^th, 2008 at 9:57pm: Seems like she didn't know when to quit... Maybe not..............a lot of people don't. Or maybe she did know when she should have quit but had a sense of commitment, belief and responsability.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39506 Gender:	Re: Veronica Guerin Reply #3 - Aug 27^th, 2008 at 8:47pm A wonderful brave woman. She will leave a legacy that will make Ireland an even safer better country. Others should follow her selflessness and bravery.
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djrbfm Senior Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 352	Re: Veronica Guerin Reply #4 - Aug 27^th, 2008 at 10:59pm hi, this women, whose actions in principle, i applaud, was a smacking idiot. nothing is worth dying for..........nothing. DR9.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39506 Gender:	Re: Veronica Guerin Reply #5 - Aug 27^th, 2008 at 11:03pm her actions have caused the arrest of over 100 hardline criminals in ireland. She has saved many more lives. I applaud her highly
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Exotic Cheese Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 82	Re: Veronica Guerin Reply #6 - Aug 28^th, 2008 at 1:15am How did she save many lives? How is Ireland a safer country?
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Re: Veronica Guerin
Reply #7 - Aug 28^th, 2008 at 2:56am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 27^th, 2008 at 11:03pm:

her actions have caused the arrest of over 100 hardline criminals in ireland.
She has saved many more lives.

I applaud her highly

yeah, but mate, she was KILLED doing it.
shot full of holes... would you like me to continue?
and so bl**dy what about all the subsequent arrests?
100 crims bite the dust and 200 new ones take their place.

i'll repeat: NOTHING's worth dying for.
DR9.

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Reply #8 - Aug 28^th, 2008 at 10:07am

I dare you to stand up on ANZAC day and say that.

The change that such people can bring is hard to attribute directly to them, but they can bring a major psychological shift, that leads others to finally stand up to their oppressors. It creates a focal point for community rage and frustration. It creates new leaders willing to tackle the problem head on. Those 200 new petty crims will have nothing on the 100 experienced ones that are locked up and will not have the oprganisational skill to intimidate and bribe the politicians and police in order to prevent a further crackdown.

If everyone thought like you DR9, we would all be living under tinpot dictators.

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Re: Veronica Guerin
Reply #9 - Aug 28^th, 2008 at 11:48am

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i'll repeat: NOTHING's worth dying for.
DR9.

But there are things worth fighting for, killing for, and dying for. Your children, your friends and family, freedom from tyranny.

People often show an instinctive impulse to help a stranger or try to rescue someone even at the risk to their own lives. IF there is a chance they can help.

But when someone follows through deliberately, and protractedly on a mission that puts themselves at risk for others, that takes courage. It is the terrible sacrifice that fills the fields of France and other places. So while her reasons may not seem sufficient to you, they were for her.

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing . Edmund Burke, I think.

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