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Aug 21st, 2008 at 3:06pm
 
This came up on the feedback board:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1219270154

and also the wiki (forget where from):

http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Islam_and_Australian_values

What is the penalty for blasphemy under Islam?

Why does Islam forbid blasphemy, even though the prophet apparently was very tolerant of criticism and abuse directed at himself?

Why are modern Muslims so sensitive to criticism of Islam - like rioting in response to the Muhammed cartoons, even though criticism of other religious figures occurs in the middle east? What is the 'correct' islamic response to this?

Some other threads on this topic:

Re: Is Islam against free speech?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1217813944/26#26

Re: Islam and Australian values
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1215058243/108#108

Re: Islam, Cult or Religion?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1218499953/12#12

Re: Sprints Posts=Inciting religious intolerence
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1216683498/59#59

Re: More islamic groups forcing their wants
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1215443280/54#54

Re: 'trench treachery'
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1212726620/121#121

Re: Islam; Who's in charge?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1212206186/5#5

Give Muslims time to find democratic feet
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1179362615/370#370

Islam: From Heretics to Believers
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1205665248/0#0

Re: ISLAM
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1180214242/333#333
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Reply #1 - Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:47pm
 
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Why are modern Muslims so sensitive to criticism of Islam - like rioting in response to the Muhammed cartoons, even though criticism of other religious figures occurs in the middle east?


What criticism of other religious figures occurs in the Middle East exactly freediver?

Also you should remember, that when those filthmongers who called themselves 'artists' tried to display their 'piss christ' here in Australia, Muslims were the most vocal opponents of it!!
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Reply #2 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 8:42am
 
And bravo for the muslims!

You're the BEST again!!!

woo hoo!
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"We should always say that I may refrain from publishing a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed, but it's because I fear you. Don't for one moment think it's because I respect you." Richard Dawkins
 
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Reply #3 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 8:43am
 
That is not how I remember it.

It was the loonies who were the most vocal, but it were the christian loonies who kicked up the most stink.

Guess what, they were wrong, and if muslims joined in, they were wrong too.

The trouble with blasphemy is that religious believers are trying to force others to accept "THEIR" beliefs, sorry, but we aren't interested.
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Reply #4 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 8:57am
 
How about we start with the penalty for blasphemy?
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Reply #5 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 9:05am
 
freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 8:57am:
How about we start with the penalty for blasphemy?


what do you suggest...?
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Reply #6 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 9:07am
 
I think it must be death. That would explain the reulctance to say what it is.
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Reply #7 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 9:18am
 
the death penalty is applied more often in the states than anywhere else on earth.......
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Reply #8 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 9:18am
 
More than China?
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Reply #9 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 9:20am
 
uuummmmm....not sure. but they BOTH AINT MUSLIM countries..
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Reply #10 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 9:23am
 
So why bring it up then? I'm not asking who uses the death penalty more, I'm asking what the penalty is for blasphemy under Islamic law.
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Reply #11 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 10:39am
 
i dont know.....

it would vary from country to country....

indonesia is the most populous muslim country and they havent the death penalty for blasphemy....

is there even ONE that does? i doubt it....perhaps the taliban. but they were viewed as radicals by most muslims. you people seem to forget that muslims are ordinary people, and not at all radical.
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Reply #12 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 10:43am
 
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I think it must be death. That would explain the reulctance to say what it is.


No reluctance, I sincerely just don't know what it is.

Why do you not wish to answer which religious figures are supposedly criticised in the Middle East?
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Reply #13 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 10:45am
 
lol, that will get the award for the most humourous post.

FD was asking the guys here who are muslim, assuming that they may have accurate information, rather than guesses from someone who probably thinks the x-files is a documentary.
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Reply #14 - Aug 23rd, 2008 at 1:00pm
 
imperial wrote on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 10:39am:
indonesia is the most populous muslim country and they havent the death penalty for blasphemy....

Indo is largely secular. The death penalty is rare but it does occur occasionally in rural areas. Having said that the latest blasphemy case is where the MUI releasd a fatwa stating that Ahmadiyah are spreading heretical views. This was followed by thousands of Muslims attacking Ahmadiyah believers and their properties. The were unsubstantiated reports of several members being hacked to death and one where the police saved a group from a lynch mob.
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