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Even if we were to accept your extremely naive assertion that it was merely a 'five minute fling', he certainly did a lot of atrocious things in those five minutes, didn't he? Gassing the Kurds, spraying chemicals all over the Iranians etc. all the while his mate Donnie Rumsfeld was assisting him, as were french chemical weapons suppliers.

And if we discard your naive little fantasy that it only lasted 5 minutes, we'll find that the relationship between the USA and Saddam actually began way back in 1959, when the CIA first approached him and groomed him to take part in a coup against Qassim. Throughout the 60's and 70's he was well valued as an anti-Communist anchor in the Middle East. Then in the 80's he became a bit of a liability, what with him gassing so many of the different ethnicities all around him, and all of a sudden Washington broke off the love affair, publically at least.

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Perhaps if they stopped organising coups and installing bloodthirsty dictators and invading countries, we might get a chance to stop blaming them.

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Actually this kind of mindless nationalism is what's led to most of the Middle East's problems. When the people were united by their religion, none of this kind of stuff was occuring.

You just cant handle the truth, never could, its always deflection and spin, never the reality that the rest of the world may well be correct and that maybe Islam has its head that far up its own arse that it can't see the woods for the trees. Rednecks are bad, Jihadist ok, good one. You can always expect the same statements about America, if the Middle Eastern Governments are so bad, overthrow them, its been done before, or are you scared of what might replace them.

Its not just about Iraq, is it, its about Bali, its about New York, its about a lot more than Iraq. And if I here another load of rubbish about how woman are number one, I'll SCREAM, every day I see Muslim women covered from head to toe, with 4 or 5 kids hanging of them, trying to control them without any luck, any wonder the teenagers are so anti - social.

And just a point about Nazis, weren't they welcomed with open arms into the Middle East. And Lestat, blow me.