Muslim Cleric Sheikh Haron has a thank you message for the Bali Bombers. In the thank you message the spokesperson says that the Bali Bombers are better than Schapelle Corby...
What are your opinions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFNf4kYu3sI

I have a lot of experience with Indonesia and have personal contacts there.

When Sharpelle was arrested it wasn't even reported in the Indonesian media. However, when there was Aussie backlash (even before the trial began) - with inflamatory comments against Indonesian authorities, attacks on Indonesian owned shops, assaults on Indonesians in Oz, and even white powder sent to the Indonesian embassy their media started taking notice of the case and the reaction from Aussies. As a result this resulted in anti-Aussie sentiment and hardened the resolve of the Indonesian people and their authorities. Sharpelle may have gottena fair trial and maybe even be given a lighter sentence (as in Leslie Phillips and Nick Taylor, the Aussie DJ) but Oz, Aussies and Aussie media essentially ruined that for her. When the Corbys hired a flamboyant Indo lawyer he quietly suggested that maybe they "donate" a small fee to the courts. It was widely reported here that he tried to offer a bribe etc. Everyone knows the judiciary system is corrupt (although they have been trying to stamp this out and have been largely successful). But by reporting this and making it public - of course the judges are going to say we don't accept bribes. As a result Corby's trial went ahead. This also forced the authorities to stand their ground as being hard on drugs - afterall the world is now looking at them (thanks to Aussie overreaction).

I believe that without any publicity she would have gotten less than a year. With the publicity, she would have been found guilty and given a 20 year sentence which would have made the Indo law system look like they are tough drugs. Then on appeal, that would have been reduced to 10 and maybe even 5 years. With a annual Ramadan discount she would have been out within 3 years. However, when the first sentence was given this started another wave of anti-Indonesian sentiments. Even the Corbys appealed to the Aussie public to clam down as it's not doing them any favours.

Aussies ruined her chances by being high and mighty.

I suspect that it's the so-called Fake Sheikh.

Sheiky grounds anyway. Here's his website:
http://www.sheikhharon.com/

"The Australian Muslim Cleric, Sheikh Haron, is the same Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi who has formally changed his name and that's why some people were confused who was Sheikh Haron? The Islamic website of this Australian Muslim cleric is a site generally about spirituality and particularly about Allah, Islam, Shariah law and Jihad."

Exotic Cheese wrote on Jul 27^th, 2008 at 4:17pm:

Are you saying they don't?

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Some more pertinent questions are: Would you regard Amrozi as a martyr? and Do you agree that the acts of the Bali bombers should be downplayed like this?

To talk about the bombings this way is disrespectful. Do you agree?

Exotic Cheese wrote on Jul 27^th, 2008 at 5:41pm:

they don't?

perhaps you can tell me how many people died in the world from drug overdoses or drug related violence last year.. and tell me if the death toll was surpassed by terrorism?

easel wrote on Jul 27^th, 2008 at 5:57pm:

Yes you can

Malik Shakur wrote on Jul 27^th, 2008 at 5:51pm:


I can't tell you because it would require a research project and more time than I'm willing to give a discussion this stupid.

They aren't even comparable, illegal drug deaths are in the low thousands while terrorism is in the tens of thousands.

Drug violence is a social problem and not related to the drugs themselves.