freediver,
As usual, I'm not particularly interested in defending what some British-created monarchy in the Middle East has done, and as usual I can't really see the relevance to Islam.
Quote:That seems pretty arrogant and indicates to me that keeping slaves must still go unquestioned and be fairly common in parts of the middle east.
Those monarchies are setup and backed by the West. They get all their military from the West, and they use it to not defend the people, but to maintain control of the people, and to institute things like slavery over foregin workers, something Islam STRICTLY forbids.
I know that you've got no leg to stand on in this argument, but at least argue something half plausible. Islam allowing enslavement of foreign workers (many of whom are Muslims) is just ridiculous.
Acid,
Quote:Are these sources enough for you. Perhaps I should have said that the beginning of the end began in 1908.
The dissolution officially occured in 1923, with the proclamation of the Republic. In 1922 the Sultanate was officially abolished, but since no new form of government had been specified, the Caliphate (which is what you call the Ottoman Empire) still existed
You can attempt to claim 1908 is when the "beginning of the end" occured etc. others would use even earlier dates. The fact is the empire still existed and certainly had not been dissolved, in fact it still entered a war after this time, certainly not something a dissolved empire could accomplish. Dissolution is the point at which it ceases to exist, not when decline has reached beyond an unrecoverable state, which is what 1908 could be seen as.. So just admit it was a technicality the site you quoted from missed, and continue with your point.