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Question: Should the Taxerpayer subsidise faith schools ?



« Created by: muso on: Jun 17th, 2008 at 3:50pm »

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Should the Taxerpayer subsidise faith schools ?
Jun 17th, 2008 at 3:50pm
 
I thought that a poll on this subject would be appropriate given our discussion on the other thread..
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Re: Should the Taxerpayer subsidise faith schools ?
Reply #1 - Jun 17th, 2008 at 4:23pm
 
Is funding them to the tune of $4000 less per student per year a subsidy or a tax?

Perhaps you should have been more specific with your question, rather than giving a complicated financial arrangement an overly simplistic label.
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Reply #2 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 9:23pm
 
five billion a year goes to faith schools.
I vote no.
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Reply #3 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 11:11pm
 
I vote no.

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Reply #4 - Jun 20th, 2008 at 12:15pm
 
This is a textbook case of religious discrimination. Or it would be, if the government were ever foolish enough to try it.
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Reply #5 - Jun 20th, 2008 at 2:53pm
 
So, I'm guessing that FD is the only one that voted "yes".

There is a funding imbalance in favour of private schools over public ones. It should be the other way around.
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Reply #6 - Jun 20th, 2008 at 3:01pm
 
I am not sure about this but have heard .......

The accounting for public schools does not include maintenance, capital investment.
Making public schools seem to get a smaller portion of the pie than it cost the govt to run them overall.

For private schools, the maintenance, capital investment is funded by that school.
Which saves the govt a LOT of money.
Every kid in private education is cheaper overall for the govt than a kid in private education.


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Re: Should the Taxerpayer subsidise faith schools ?
Reply #7 - Jun 20th, 2008 at 3:07pm
 
There is a funding imbalance in favour of private schools over public ones. It should be the other way around.

Private schools get about $6000 per student per year. Public schools get about $10000.

This is about religious schools, not private schools. There is another thread about that:

public vs private education

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1172911103
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Re: Should the Taxerpayer subsidise faith schools ?
Reply #8 - Jun 22nd, 2008 at 11:51am
 
I don't see the difference between religious schools and private schools. 

Governments have a responsibility to pay for our children's education.  People who send their kids to religious schools pay tax as well.


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Reply #9 - Jul 28th, 2008 at 9:29pm
 
I don't believe in segregating our children on the basis of religion, take a quick look around the world and see what it does.
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Reply #10 - Jul 28th, 2008 at 9:38pm
 
Private/Religious schools should get zero tax payer dollars.
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Reply #11 - Jul 28th, 2008 at 11:55pm
 
I voted that they shouldn't be subsidized.. However that is conditional, I would completely agree with you all if taxes were not as high as they are. The government shouldn't be taking so much money from people, if they didn't take so much then perhaps schools wouldn't need as much subsidizing and parents could pay the bigger fees.

I spoke to a gentleman today, him and his wife were earning about $110,000 a year together, they had a mortgage which costs $46,404 per year, because they have a kid and they both work to provide for their kid they send the kid to childcare which costs almost $12,000 a year, $20,100 going to taxes taken out by the government, about $8,400 a year towards groceries, $8,400 towards the regular family car's fuel, $1,100 towards the medicare levy, $1,650 for the medicare levy surcharge, $2,400 as a modest amount for entertainment and a kid, and other general costs (not including school costs) can total between $95-100,000 which is almost all of their income.

Our taxes are oppressive, there is no way that we can be a productive nation this way.

Lower taxes and then you can stop subsidizing things, it's not fair on family's.
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Re: Should the Taxerpayer subsidise faith schools ?
Reply #12 - Jul 29th, 2008 at 8:12am
 
The tax payer funds education. Any "faith based" education that is necessary should be paid for by the parent.
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Reply #13 - Jul 29th, 2008 at 9:34am
 
Currently it is a controversial idea to separate religion from education, but I doubt it will remain that way.

We owe a lot to religions actually helping to instigate universally accessible education, as historically it was only available to the elite, hence the strong historical bond.

As in all things, we are seeing changes, due to societies changing views away from a general acceptance of religion as a central tenet of their life, to a more incidental role, as this continues, we will see greater separation of religion from secular activities.
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Re: Should the Taxerpayer subsidise faith schools ?
Reply #14 - Jul 29th, 2008 at 9:36am
 
Thank god for that  Wink
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