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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47481 At my desk.	Re: Who wrote the koran ? Reply #150 - Dec 4^th, 2020 at 7:13pm Quote: I actually claimed that the Old Testament is important to Christianity, not that Christianity is based on the Old Testament. It's our fault for assuming Brian was attempting to make a rational argument.
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Reply #151 - Dec 4^th, 2020 at 10:04pm

freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2020 at 7:13pm:

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I actually claimed that the Old Testament is important to Christianity, not that Christianity is based on the Old Testament.

It's our fault for assuming Brian was attempting to make a rational argument.

The Old Testament can be blamed for the Muslims too.
They have an Abrahamic religion plagiarised out of the
Jewish Torah/ Old Testament and that's where
they got all their barbaric punishments from such as
stoning people to death.

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Reply #153 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 8:27am

The first Religion was created upon the Temple of Ur in the worship of 'Sin' (the Moon). But it was 'buried' by invasion.

Then the first Monotheism of Religion emerged in Zoroastrianism. Followed by a more comprehensive Judaism, then Christianity and Mohommedism.

These Monotheisms were a Middle-Eastern interpretation of the surrounding Old Worlds of Asia, Europe and Africa.
The Holy City for Asia, the Holy Land for Africa, the Holy Healer for Europe, etc.

Now another 'phase' is coming in. The New Worlds will form their own Religions and usher in the 'True Middle-Eastern' Religion as the Old World Religions fall in upon themselves - back into the past. The Religions of Namerica (Mormonism in the lead so far), Sahul (has 2/3rds more paperwork than any other nation) and Samerica will 'raise' the true Middle-East up from the influences of the Old Worlds. Only Oceania will default in favour of Science.

The process of Germany, France, Italy and finally the UK - each releasing the Christianity that made them 'serve God' is underway, with Germany already 'giving it up'. Now is France's turn. Judaism, Christianity and Mohommedism are turning back and folding upon themselves as New Religions emerge in the New Worlds to help the 'true' Middle-Eastern Religion to rise.

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Reply #155 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 9:14am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 4^th, 2020 at 10:04pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2020 at 7:13pm:

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I actually claimed that the Old Testament is important to Christianity, not that Christianity is based on the Old Testament.

It's our fault for assuming Brian was attempting to make a rational argument.

The Old Testament can be blamed for the Muslims too.
They have an Abrahamic religion plagiarised out of the
Jewish Torah/ Old Testament and that's where
they got all their barbaric punishments from such as
stoning people to death.

Despite getting some details correct your grasp of biblical history is appalling.

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Reply #156 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 9:22am

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 9:14am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 4^th, 2020 at 10:04pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2020 at 7:13pm:

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I actually claimed that the Old Testament is important to Christianity, not that Christianity is based on the Old Testament.

It's our fault for assuming Brian was attempting to make a rational argument.

The Old Testament can be blamed for the Muslims too.
They have an Abrahamic religion plagiarised out of the
Jewish Torah/ Old Testament and that's where
they got all their barbaric punishments from such as
stoning people to death.

Despite getting some details correct your grasp of biblical history is appalling.

You're wrong - and I'm glad I can educate a few of the ignorant people here.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all Abrahamic religions.
They all relate back to the Jewish Torah.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham

Abraham[a] (originally Abram)[b] is the common patriarch of the Abrahamic religions, including Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.[1] In Judaism, he is the founding father of the covenant of the pieces, the special relationship between the Hebrews and God; in Christianity, he is the spiritual progenitor of all believers, Jewish or Gentile;[2][3] and in Islam he is seen as a link in the chain of prophets that begins with Adam and culminates in Muhammad.[4]

The narrative in the Book of Genesis revolves around the themes of posterity and land. Abraham is called by God to leave the house of his father Terah and settle in the land originally given to Canaan but which God now promises to Abraham and his progeny. Various candidates are put forward who might inherit the land after Abraham; and, while promises are made to Ishmael about founding a great nation, Isaac, Abraham's son by his half-sister Sarah, inherits God's promises to Abraham. Abraham purchases a tomb (the Cave of the Patriarchs) at Hebron to be Sarah's grave, thus establishing his right to the land; and, in the second generation, his heir Isaac is married to a woman from his own kin, thus ruling the Canaanites out of any inheritance. Abraham later marries Keturah and has six more sons; but, on his death, when he is buried beside Sarah, it is Isaac who receives "all Abraham's goods", while the other sons receive only "gifts" (Genesis 25:5–8).[5]

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Reply #157 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 10:13am

The truth of the matter is poor Muhammad went up into the mountains for some sexual healing when he came down, he only wanted to talk about love with the 72 spiritual virgins he had encountered in his isolation in the mountains.

Each virgin with her own unique sexual position, that's what Muhammad was trying to get the scribe to write down a kinda middle eastern kuma sutra.

Unfortunately for Muhammad as he was describing these 72 sexual positions with the 72 spiritual virgins to the rabid Amin who was the scribe, the rabid Amin wrote his own interpretation of how man and God should come together.

And poor Muhammad being illiterate and all just didn't have a f@rking clue..... Wink

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Reply #158 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 11:14am

Firstly Bobby - the Religions are not all Abrahamitic. They are all based on the Zoroastrian of good and evil - 'duality'. That's the irony of 'mono' theism.
The Zoroastrian God will rise above the other three Religions that represent Asia, Europe and Africa and usher in the true Middle-East Religion as made by Namerica, Sahul and Samerica that serve it and not the Media of Oceania.

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Reply #159 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 11:20am

Jasin wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 11:14am:

Firstly Bobby - the Religions are not all Abrahamitic. They are all based on the Zoroastrian of good and evil - 'duality'. That's the irony of 'mono' theism.
The Zoroastrian God will rise above the other three Religions that represent Asia, Europe and Africa and usher in the true Middle-East Religion as made by Namerica, Sahul and Samerica that serve it and not the Media of Oceania.

Actually - a lot of it was stolen from the Egyptian sun god Horus.

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Reply #160 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 3:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4^th, 2020 at 2:41pm:

moses wrote on Dec 4^th, 2020 at 2:16pm:

Who cares who wrote the qur'an?

And so you dismiss about 2 billion people, Muslim and non-Muslims (yourself included, Moses) who read it. Some believe it, some don't. It is important to them. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Harry Potter was dictated to JK by the Archangel Gabreel and it is also very important to those who read it.
And if you read them after you turned 20 then I think you can also be dismissed as a ditz.

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Reply #161 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 5:20pm

The thread is *who wrote the qur'an*.

The qur'an is responsible for islamic human sacrifice, every day of the year somewhere on the globe.

Yet here we are, people trying to sidestep this muslim issue, why?

The qur'an is acknowledged as the cause and motivation for all the islamic human rights atrocities.

The answer to the problems of muslims raping, torturing and slaughtering innocent men, women, children and infants in prams, to the honour and glory of allah, is not guns bombs and bullets.

The answer is for all people to tell the truth about islam allah muhammad and the qur'an.

Truth if openly propagated at the muslims, is the only way to stop islamic fundamentalism.

Truth will also destroy islam at the very same time.

That is why we are struggling against islamic rape, torture and slaughter of people, to the honour and glory of allah.

The *moderates* and the leftwing of politics, don't want questioning of and telling the truth about islam, as they also know truth will destroy islam.

Both of them are happy with the status quo of, islamic human sacrifice to the honour and glory of allah, over telling the truth and destroying islam at the same time.

The truth is, islam is an evil satanical belief, that most certainly is not fit for any 21st century civilization.

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Reply #162 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 5:38pm

moses wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 5:20pm:

The thread is *who wrote the qur'an*.

The qur'an is responsible for islamic human sacrifice, every day of the year somewhere on the globe.

Yet here we are, people trying to sidestep this muslim issue, why?

The qur'an is acknowledged as the cause and motivation for all the islamic human rights atrocities.

The answer to the problems of muslims raping, torturing and slaughtering innocent men, women, children and infants in prams, to the honour and glory of allah, is not guns bombs and bullets.

The answer is for all people to tell the truth about islam allah muhammad and the qur'an.

Truth if openly propagated at the muslims, is the only way to stop islamic fundamentalism.

Truth will also destroy islam at the very same time.

That is why we are struggling against islamic rape, torture and slaughter of people, to the honour and glory of allah.

The *moderates* and the leftwing of politics, don't want questioning of and telling the truth about islam, as they also know truth will destroy islam.

Both of them are happy with the status quo of, islamic human sacrifice to the honour and glory of allah, over telling the truth and destroying islam at the same time.

The truth is, islam is an evil satanical belief, that most certainly is not fit for any 21st century civilization.

You first must accept that all Abrahamic religion is a death cult.

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Reply #163 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 6:24pm

Why Bobby?

What do you mean Abrahamic?

Why are you trying to promote the lies of muhammad?

islam is a cult that worships a reinvented pagan moon god allah.

muhammad did make a very poor attempt at plagiarizing the works of the Hebrews and Christians, with their worship of a monotheistic God Y.H.W.H..

Why dance around this fact?

Why do dance around the truth Bobby?:

Jews and the O.T.:
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Deuteronomy 12:8 Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.

Deuteronomy 12:9 For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

The Jews take this to mean that the many evil deeds the Hebrews pursued in the taking of the promised land, became null and void once they gained the promised land.

Their Holy Books are saying the exact opposite of you Bobby, why do you never mention these verses?

Christianity and the N.T.:
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Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached , and every man presseth into it.

Puts a clear time frame on the ancient Mosaic law, it became redundant 2020 years ago.

As verified by the following:
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Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

So the conclusion is?

The Jews and Christians long ago gave up their barbaric ways, as decreed by their books.

Why don't you ever quote these verses about Christianity and Judaism?

islam is not Abrahamic, it is still in the dark dim past, raping torturing and murdering people as an offering to their satanic reinvented pagan moon god allah.

Why Bobby, why try and promote hatred of Jews and Christians with fake half truths?

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Reply #164 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 6:36pm

moses wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 6:24pm:

Why Bobby?

What do you mean Abrahamic?

Why are you trying to promote the lies of muhammad?

islam is a cult that worships a reinvented pagan moon god allah.

muhammad did make a very poor attempt at plagiarizing the works of the Hebrews and Christians, with their worship of a monotheistic God Y.H.W.H..

Why dance around this fact?

Why do dance around the truth Bobby?:

Jews and the O.T.:
Quote:

Deuteronomy 12:8 Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.

Deuteronomy 12:9 For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

The Jews take this to mean that the many evil deeds the Hebrews pursued in the taking of the promised land, became null and void once they gained the promised land.

Their Holy Books are saying the exact opposite of you Bobby, why do you never mention these verses?

Christianity and the N.T.:
Quote:

Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached , and every man presseth into it.

Puts a clear time frame on the ancient Mosaic law, it became redundant 2020 years ago.

As verified by the following:
Quote:

Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

So the conclusion is?

The Jews and Christians long ago gave up their barbaric ways, as decreed by their books.

Why don't you ever quote these verses about Christianity and Judaism?

islam is not Abrahamic, it is still in the dark dim past, raping torturing and murdering people as an offering to their satanic reinvented pagan moon god allah.

Why Bobby, why try and promote hatred of Jews and Christians with fake half truths?

But isn't nailing a man to a cross for 3 days
all about a death cult?

Couldn't a kind and merciful God
have thought of a better way to forgive our sins?

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