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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47469 At my desk.	Re: Cruelty. Reply #15 - Mar 17^th, 2008 at 2:15pm How do you know he wasn't serious? Was he laughing?
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Reply #16 - Mar 18^th, 2008 at 11:10am

Today I rang the RSPCA...they tell me in July legislation is going thru Parliament to make it illegal to transport live animals in the heat.

As it stands animals trucked this way are supposed to be rested and fed for 12/24 hours every 24..at the nearest stockyards. Im doubting this is happening tho'.

They say also Police are equipped with as much if not more power than the actual RSPCA in the absence of RSPCA being able to attend.

So Ill need to get back to the person who told me that "its not our area"..

I rang Pt Lincoln RSPCA [ none here] and they told me that on the Sunday when I called the Police that it had been recorded on their records that the truckies had actually been put on alert following a call they received 10-15 minutes previous ,which is when i called the police...not sure about the details until this afternoon when I get back to the person I spoke to.

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Reply #17 - Mar 18^th, 2008 at 11:22am

That's fantastic Oceans. About time some of these laws were changed. I wonder if these new laws are Federal or State, because as I said before the RSPCA is more than a bit suspect in SA and from what I've read has strong ties with the government and the pig and egg farmers and it's all connected to their funding.

If they're Federal laws being changed - this means that the Greens and Garrett & others have been pushing this legislation.

By you kicking up a fuss - you have done something positive. It's amazing what you can do if you tread on the wrong toes then speak to the right people.

The problem is - hardly anyone cares anymore - so when someone comes along who does care and makes loud noises - it's amazing how after a little while those who haven't been doing their job properly start listening.

Great work Oceans - look forward to hearing about the outcome.

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Reply #18 - Mar 18^th, 2008 at 11:40am

mantra wrote on Mar 18^th, 2008 at 11:22am:

That's fantastic Oceans. About time some of these laws were changed. I wonder if these new laws are Federal or State, because as I said before the RSPCA is more than a bit suspect in SA and from what I've read has strong ties with the government and the pig and egg farmers and it's all connected to their funding.

If they're Federal laws being changed - this means that the Greens and Garrett & others have been pushing this legislation.

By you kicking up a fuss - you have done something positive. It's amazing what you can do if you tread on the wrong toes then speak to the right people.

The problem is - hardly anyone cares anymore - so when someone comes along who does care and makes loud noises - it's amazing how after a little while those who haven't been doing their job properly start listening.

Great work Oceans - look forward to hearing about the outcome.

Im not sure mantra..I never thought to ask that question...I will tho'. Im hoping its Federal.

Ill update later.

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Reply #19 - Mar 18^th, 2008 at 7:17pm

Every Australian should be aware of what their State Government is doing about what affects them, locally! The Federal Government looks after Federal Legislation. Try to comprehend the difference.

Do some research http://www.australia.gov.au/States_and_Territories#sa on State and Territory Governments and what current Bills their State Governments are debating.

Read a bit about the role that the States play in the overall Government of this country, Australia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_and_territories_of_Australia

Educate yourself. You and others on this Forum can't understand the "three tier system" of Government we operate under.

It is not all about Federal Government -v- The Opposition. Tongue

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Reply #20 - Mar 18^th, 2008 at 7:21pm

Well seeing as you're so logical - logical - can you tell us whether this new legislation involving the transport of cattle is Federal or State?

This is what we were trying to determine. Is the new government responsible for introducing these new humane laws for livestock or is it the State? If this is state legislation, it means that once these cattle trucks get over the border they can do what they want and go back to abusing livestock.

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Reply #21 - Mar 18^th, 2008 at 9:30pm

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Well seeing as you're so logical - logical - can you tell us whether this new legislation involving the transport of cattle is Federal or State?

SHEEP Mantra ...... not cattle. Do you know the difference?

I gave you the links .... follow them!

Is the new government responsible for introducing these new humane laws for livestock or is it the State?

I don't care. Rudd doesn't care. Garrett doesn't care. Swann doesn't care. You google and find out. You are the one with the problem.

If this is state legislation, it means that once these cattle trucks get over the border they can do what they want and go back to abusing livestock.

The topic was SHEEP ... a bit like you and your buddies. Who is abusing livestock? The Truckers are merely doing their job moving livestock from one place to another to DIE and be eaten buy Aussies who like a BBQ lamb chop. Personally I don't eat lamb or beef. Tomatoes feel it when you chop them too, remember.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47469 At my desk.	Re: Cruelty. Reply #22 - Mar 19^th, 2008 at 8:59am If you gave her the link, why would she need to google it? Is the 'link' you provided not as useful as you make out?
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39522 Gender:	Re: Cruelty. Reply #23 - Mar 19^th, 2008 at 10:23am Does it matter ? They are going to be slaughtered anyway. Oh, maybe it des, makes the meat tougher. Uhuh - keep on the job oceans. I want unstressed beef burgers thanks
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47469 At my desk.	Re: Cruelty. Reply #24 - Mar 19^th, 2008 at 10:55am Apparently it's lamb we're talking about, not beef. Don't go upsetting the wrong people.
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Reply #25 - Mar 19^th, 2008 at 5:00pm

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Today I rang the RSPCA...they tell me in July legislation is going thru Parliament to make it illegal to transport live animals in the heat.

As it stands animals trucked this way are supposed to be rested and fed for 12/24 hours every 24..at the nearest stockyards. Im doubting this is happening tho'.

Yeah, that's fantastic. We already pay $30 a kilo for decent steak, imagine how much it's going to cost when this ridiculous impost is added to the cost!

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47469 At my desk.	Re: Cruelty. Reply #26 - Mar 19^th, 2008 at 5:03pm You must buy it from Coles or Woolies. I can get decent rump for $6 per kilo at a few local butchers. Top quality stuff for $7 or $8.
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oceanz Gold Member Offline Auzgurl.. Posts: 3531 Gender:	Re: Cruelty. Reply #27 - Mar 19^th, 2008 at 5:11pm Never paid anything like $30.00 a kilo.
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