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Jan 7th, 2008 at 9:30pm
 
I posted this on PA......but freediver's translantions will be interesting to read:






Jim Maxwell (7.30 Report tonight) can bite my arse, and bugger off.

He wants Australia to show more 'humility' in victory. What the bugger?

Singh, after getting Ponting out, runs a bloody marathon towards the boundary at the SCG, with forefinger prominent, "look at me" expression, then performs the second worst hands over roll, and then the worst hands over roll, was showing 'humility' in victory?

Get buggered Maxwell. Played any cricket? At what level?

As for the 'monkey' thing. The Indian Bride knows sweet bugger all about cricket. She says that if an Indian calls someone a 'monkey' it is not an insult. It means, she says that the descriptee is cheeky, mischievous etc.

Like I said, she knows sfa about cricket.

As opposed to Singh.

He knew, after our recent tour of India, that Australians take offence at one of ours, being black, being referred to as a monkey in a cricket context. Cricketers at Test level are not cheeky or mischievious........

Singh knew very bloody well that to refer to Symonds as a 'monkey' meant, "You black front bottom.....you are not not far out of the trees.'

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Reply #1 - Jan 7th, 2008 at 9:33pm
 
Bit of a storm in a teacup old chap. I didn't realise the racial thing was so petty. Humility in victory is a good thing. It's all getting a bit embarassing now with 16 wins in a row.
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Reply #2 - Jan 7th, 2008 at 9:45pm
 
Bugger defeat.

Nasty taste.

I was 'there' when the Windies (even as far back as Wes Hall, Marshall, Garner et al) were dominant, and before when McCosker had his jaw bone broken by a Pom ( .....Willis.....?)

Bugger this humility crap.

When we win, we should blow hard, big time, because when we were being trashed, my generation had to suck big time.

Get buggered India!
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Reply #3 - Jan 7th, 2008 at 10:16pm
 

Aussie - How good does it get .    Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley



Ponting's current streak of 16 wins:
South Africa, 2nd Test in Melbourne, 2005-06. Aust by 184 runs
South Africa, 3rd Test in Sydney, 2005-06. Aust by eight wickets
South Africa, 1st Test in Cape Town, 2005-06. Aust by seven wickets
South Africa, 2nd Test in Durban, 2005-06. Aust by 112 runs
South Africa, 3rd Test in Johannesburg, 2005-06. Aust by two wickets
Bangladesh, 1st Test in Fatullah, 2005-06. Aust by three wickets
Bangladesh, 2nd Test in Chittagong, 2005-06. Aust by an innings and 80 runs
England, 1st Test in Brisbane, 2006-07. Aust by 277 runs
England, 2nd Test in Adelaide, 2006-07. Aust by six wickets
England, 3rd Test in Perth, 2006-07. Aust by 206 runs
England, 4th Test in Melbourne, 2006-07. Aust by an innings and 99 runs
England, 5th Test in Sydney, 2006-07. Aust by 10 wickets
Sri Lanka, 1st Test in Brisbane, 2007-08. Aust by an innings and 40 runs
Sri Lanka, 2nd Test in Hobart, 2007-08. Aust by 96 runs
India, 1st Test in Melbourne, 2007-08. Aust by 337 runs
India, 2nd Test in Sydney, 2007-08. Aust by 122 runs

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Reply #4 - Jan 7th, 2008 at 10:34pm
 
.....ummmm,

Yeah, that's 16.

Duh.

But, how about these whinging smacking Indians........(beware, I am married to The Indikan Bride.)
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Reply #5 - Jan 7th, 2008 at 10:42pm
 
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They are the most racist people around .

Except those that are married to aussies, of course  Wink
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Reply #6 - Jan 8th, 2008 at 10:42am
 
It may not be racist, but Indian society is still largely divided along class lines, which is just as bad.

Aussie, you are missing the point with the humility bit. I feel embarrassed when I see my own side 'blow hard' when they are on a winning streak. It's petty and childish to take out on the Indians what are obviously sore wounds left by the Windies. It's not a glarifying victory, it's a bunch of losers on winning streak.

And it's just not cricket.
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Reply #7 - Jan 8th, 2008 at 3:30pm
 
I posted this on PA in response to a post by Plough.  It is relevant here.......








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Dont need to have played ay cricket to knowledgeable and have an informed opinion of the game. That is quite a stupid statement you make Aussie.



No, you don't but his comments were all about how the Australian Team lacked humility, yet he completely ignored the antics of Harbhijan immediately after he dismissed Ponting. So, I conclude his opinion is ill-informed. Benaud, someone who played the game at Test level, and who is universally accepted as having an informed opinion concluded there was nothing untoward in the behaviour of the Australians.

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As for Harbhijan, There was no recording, the umpiresd heard nothing hence it was his word against the Symonds word. Hardly a fair result given that.



I do not believe it was just one man's word against another. Can anyone point to anyone, including an Indian, who has been quoted as saying that Harbhijan did not abuse Symonds with the monkey? Further, Plough, it might surprise you that many Magistrates are faced with deciding cases by choosing one man's word over another every day of the week. Sometimes, the Magistrate might say he was not satisfied that either party had convinced him, but on other occasions, he wil be confident in accepting one man's word over another.

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That said the Indioans are acting petulant in their disapproval of the decision.



Bloody oath they have. I agree withy Uncanny. Stupid Roebuck. Why make mention of Harb....'s family and refer to him as a 'warrior?' What? As though the Australians are not!! Tosser!

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They did how ever get bent over and buggered up the arse by the umpires and the aussies did rub that in by sporting behaviour that was, while inside the rules, questionable on an ethical/spirit sense.



Sure, the Umpires buggered up. Not for the first time in the history of the game, but this crap from India smacks of sheer petulence from a bunch of losers. Tell me, just exactly what did the Australians do which establishes their behaviour as outside the spirit of the game? bugger me dead........they needed three wicket in two overs. They got them in the second to last. India did not manage to draw that game because three blokes could not handle the powder puffs from Clarke. Saving the game like Australia did in those circumstances will lead to due celebration, and renewed self belief. The Indian sooks lost ''cause they can't bloody bat above school boy level at 8,9,10 and 11.

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Symonds not going when 30 and deffinatley out, Clarke waiting for a decision when he nicked it to slip in the second innings. The whole team celebrating the win in the way they did without regard for their opponent. Protocall would have them shake hands etc before the stupidity of the group hug we saw on the field.



Symonds should never have publicly admitted he hit it. Stupid bastard! As for Clarke, he did what just about every batsman does, waits for the decision. As they say in Rugby League, 'play the whistle!' How many Rugby League players confess they dropped the ball when trying to place it at 'try time!' Why can't Australia celebrate as soon as they win ferfuxsake. They just snatched victory from the jaws of a draw....three wickets in one over to win the game at the last minute, and you expect them to act like students accepting their degree on Graduation Night or would you prefer them to be like Priests dishing out the wine and biccies at Mass? You have to put it all in context. They just pulled off one of the great wins in cricket history, and they celebrated just like any other bunch of human beings would in those circumstances.


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Ps: Ponting needs to go as captain. I have always said any bloke who tries to pick up a trany at the bourbon and beef steak is not fit to captain Australia



Crap. Ponting is leading this Team extremely well. In this case, he did what Malcolm Speed required of him.....i.e. report any accusation of racial abuse.

.................and what is this other slur about pickling up a tranny?
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Reply #8 - Jan 8th, 2008 at 3:48pm
 


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and what is this other slur about pickling up a tranny?


How does one 'pickle a tranny?

Got the recipe Aussie..?

Joking- good post.  Wink
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Reply #9 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 9:26am
 
So far the racist abusive loser indians have blamed a number of Aussie cricketers, the umpires AND the ICC.

Same way they got Darryl hair sacked and have threatened other tours in the past.
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Reply #10 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 4:42pm
 
Article except:

[The heroes of this Australian team say that in cricket you cop the good with the bad. That's exactly what captain Ponting conspicuously failed to do in this Test. In the first innings he was given not out when clearly out. Quite some runs later he was given out when he was not out. Did he cop it? No, he stood and glared at the umpire. He should have been fined for dissent. He should have acknowledged it was an easy mistake to make, given the bat was next to the pad, making the deflection all but imperceptible. And it wasn't just the heat of the moment: the tantrum continued at the dressing-room. He should have been ashamed of himself. Back to the Bourbon and Beefsteak, mate.

But Ponting is not ashamed. "I really can't see how we have done anything wrong by the spirit of the game," he said when the furore blew up. I can. So can a lot of others.]


Source: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2008/01/08/1199554654309.html



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Reply #11 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 5:09pm
 
He looked at the umpire, while standing?
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Reply #12 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 9:08pm
 
Acid Monkey wrote on Jan 9th, 2008 at 4:42pm:
Article except:

[The heroes of this Australian team say that in cricket you cop the good with the bad. That's exactly what captain Ponting conspicuously failed to do in this Test. In the first innings he was given not out when clearly out. Quite some runs later he was given out when he was not out. Did he cop it? No, he stood and glared at the umpire. He should have been fined for dissent. He should have acknowledged it was an easy mistake to make, given the bat was next to the pad, making the deflection all but imperceptible. And it wasn't just the heat of the moment: the tantrum continued at the dressing-room. He should have been ashamed of himself.Back to the Bourbon and Beefsteak, mate.

But Ponting is not ashamed. "I really can't see how we have done anything wrong by the spirit of the game," he said when the furore blew up. I can. So can a lot of others.



I have played this game at not quite elite level.  I am one of very few non batsman bowled by a Kim Hughes off break (which failed to break!)......a zillion years ago.

'Play the whistle,' was the Golden Rule.........for a very simple reason.

I have been given out 'caught behind' far more times than I was given 'not out' when I hit it.

We have Umpires to make decisions.  That is why they are there, yes.

If not, let's do away with them completely, and what then?

Who decides.

Personally, I'd go with the 11 on the field, even though the batting two are armed.

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Reply #13 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 11:00pm
 
Well done Aussie.
I agree with your sentiments exactly.
The umpire is always right, even when he is wrong he is right.

Congratulations on playing with Kim Hughes.
Better than I ever did.  Smiley
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Reply #14 - Jan 10th, 2008 at 12:02am
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 9th, 2008 at 9:08pm:
I have played this game at not quite elite level.  I am one of very few non batsman bowled by a Kim Hughes off break (which failed to break!)......a zillion years ago.



Cool. My brother-in-law would be impress. You topped his achievement where he recently played a Twenty20 match for Richmond with Cameron White. He didn't do too well - only made 3 runs but got a wicket (c&b) on the last over. Richmond lost in the end. He is a sports bookie specialising in cricket.

All's fair in love, war and sports.

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Reply #15 - Jan 10th, 2008 at 8:43pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 9th, 2008 at 11:00pm:
Well done Aussie.
I agree with your sentiments exactly.
The umpire is always right, even when he is wrong he is right.

Congratulations on playing with Kim Hughes.
Better than I ever did.  Smiley



Wrong.  I played AGAINST Hughes and Lillee, Marsh, Alderman  et al.......

.....as a Country Queenslander.

In those days.....being the late 70's early 80's, visiting State Shield sides would warm up against lesser beings, one of whom, I was.

Many stories.

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Reply #16 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 4:01pm
 
From crikey, a new racism charge and some itneresting details on the monkey comment:

While the media continues to spout moral outrage at Australia’s behaviour during the second test, India’s complaint against Brad Hogg for racism has garnered far less attention. In what cynics claim is an act of pure revenge for the Australian’s protest against Harbhajan Singh, India has made an official complaint after Hogg said that “I can't wait to run through you bastards.”

The comments were made to Indian captain, Anil Kumble and wicketkeeper, Mahendra Dhoni.

In making the complaint, the Indians have managed to achieve what many thought impossible: behave in a worse manner than the Australians.

Not only is the petulant Indian cricket board still effectively blackmailing the ICC over Singh’s racism suspension, but they have now launched a revenge claim over a comment which does not appear to be racist in its intent or effect.

The Indians claimed that Hogg’s comments breached Section 3.3 of the ICC’s Code of Conduct (which coincidentally, was the exact same section under which Singh was penalised). Section 3.3 provides that players or team officials are barred from:

Using language or gestures that offends, insults, humiliates, intimidates, threatens, disparages or vilifies another person on the basis of that person's race, religion, gender, colour, descent, or national or ethic origin.

The Indians argue that the term “bastard” is offensive in India as it implies that one is of a low social standing.

There is no doubt that the term is offensive, probably far more offensive than Hogg actually intended, however, the comment does not seem to fit within the categories from section 3.3 of the Code. In clutching at straws, India claims that Hogg’s comments vilified the players on the basis of “descent’. Upon reading the Code, it would be difficult for anyone with legal training to imply that the intention of word “descent” relates to the marital status of one’s parents. The intention of the section is ostensibly aimed clearly at racism (as can be implied by the surrounding words). Perhaps the Indians would have a stronger case if the ICC changed the rule to include the term “parents’ marital status”.

The Indians further claimed that the term indicates that one is of a low social standard – by implication, had Hogg called Kumble a “beggar” would he be facing the same charges?

Further, there would be doubt whether the language actually offended, insulted, humiliated, intimidated, threatened, disparaged or vilified the Indian players. Unless Kumble or Dhoni actually are ‘bastards’, proving that they were actually insulted may be difficult. For example, the term “N _ _ _ _ r” is extremely insulting to many Americans – however, if you use that slur towards a white person, it would be difficult for them to make a claim of racism. Presumably, for the offence to made out, there needs to be an element of truth underlying the comment.

Harbajan Singh was counseled not to use the term “monkey” towards Andrew Symonds. The term is clearly racist and Symonds had in the past, complained about such comments being made. The Indian team was told prior to the tour to specifically avoid using that term. Despite the warning, Singh was heard by three players as calling Symonds a “monkey”.

To charge Hogg under the same law is to grossly diminish Singh’s offence and trivialise the racist actions which occurred – but then again, that is probably exactly what the Indians are trying to achieve.
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Reply #17 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 8:40pm
 
Yadda, yadda........

However, I'd go with the Indians on this if Hogg had been given prior notice of the claimed significance to them of the word 'bastard.'

And.......I've checked with The Indian Bride who assures me that, on the very many ocsasions I have referred to male members of her family as 'you old bastard,' no offence would have been taken.

I can confirm that on the very many occasions I have done exactly that, the bastards just laughed their monkey smacking heads off.
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