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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable' Reply #60 - Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:50pm IQSRLOW wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:45pm: DRAH would prefer that the world suffers under the strain of continual emittance of GHG rather than containment of energy pollution I don't understand why he is pro greenhouse gas. Must be a greenie.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable' Reply #61 - Dec 19^th, 2007 at 3:03pm IQSRLOW wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:45pm: DRAH would prefer that the world suffers under the strain of continual emittance of GHG rather than containment of energy pollution Why did Renewables go down under John Howard?
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Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable'
Reply #62 - Dec 19^th, 2007 at 3:05pm

deepthought wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:50pm:

IQSRLOW wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:45pm:

DRAH would prefer that the world suffers under the strain of continual emittance of GHG rather than containment of energy pollution

I don't understand why he is pro greenhouse gas. Must be a greenie.

Why did Renewables go down under John Howard?

Wink

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Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable'
Reply #63 - Dec 19^th, 2007 at 4:51pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 3:05pm:

deepthought wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:50pm:

IQSRLOW wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:45pm:

DRAH would prefer that the world suffers under the strain of continual emittance of GHG rather than containment of energy pollution

I don't understand why he is pro greenhouse gas. Must be a greenie.

Why did Renewables go down under John Howard?

Wink

For the same reason they went down under Menzies, Holt, McEwen, Gorton, McMahon, Whitlam, Fraser, Hawke, Keating and now Rudd.

Demand outstrips supply and renewables (apart from Hydro) can not supply base load. Everyone knows that.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39522 Gender:	Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable' Reply #64 - Dec 19^th, 2007 at 9:12pm DT - I think every form of power generation can supply base load. It's prob got more to go with nonrenable sources being cheaper. Coal is the cheapest. Also maybe a bit to do with big companies behind coal etc.
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Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable'
Reply #65 - Dec 19^th, 2007 at 9:20pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 9:12pm:

DT - I think every form of power generation can supply base load.

It's prob got more to go with nonrenable sources being cheaper. Coal is the cheapest.
Also maybe a bit to do with big companies behind coal etc.

Sorry mate, only hydro, fossil fuels and nuclear can. If the sun stops shining or the wind stops blowing . . . . .

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Reply #66 - Dec 19^th, 2007 at 10:48pm

deepthought wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 4:51pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 3:05pm:

deepthought wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:50pm:

IQSRLOW wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:45pm:

DRAH would prefer that the world suffers under the strain of continual emittance of GHG rather than containment of energy pollution

I don't understand why he is pro greenhouse gas. Must be a greenie.

Why did Renewables go down under John Howard?

Wink

For the same reason they went down under Menzies, Holt, McEwen, Gorton, McMahon, Whitlam, Fraser, Hawke, Keating and now Rudd.

Demand outstrips supply and renewables (apart from Hydro) can not supply base load. Everyone knows that.

Hang on, what do you mean, "...now Rudd"?

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Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable'
Reply #67 - Dec 20^th, 2007 at 6:12am

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 10:48pm:

deepthought wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 4:51pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 3:05pm:

deepthought wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:50pm:

IQSRLOW wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:45pm:

DRAH would prefer that the world suffers under the strain of continual emittance of GHG rather than containment of energy pollution

I don't understand why he is pro greenhouse gas. Must be a greenie.

Why did Renewables go down under John Howard?

Wink

For the same reason they went down under Menzies, Holt, McEwen, Gorton, McMahon, Whitlam, Fraser, Hawke, Keating and now Rudd.

Demand outstrips supply and renewables (apart from Hydro) can not supply base load. Everyone knows that.

Hang on, what do you mean, "...now Rudd"?

Well I don't see the use of renewables going up. Who is the current Prime Minister?

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Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable'
Reply #68 - Dec 20^th, 2007 at 9:02pm

deepthought wrote on Dec 20^th, 2007 at 6:12am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 10:48pm:

deepthought wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 4:51pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 3:05pm:

deepthought wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:50pm:

IQSRLOW wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:45pm:

DRAH would prefer that the world suffers under the strain of continual emittance of GHG rather than containment of energy pollution

I don't understand why he is pro greenhouse gas. Must be a greenie.

Why did Renewables go down under John Howard?

Wink

For the same reason they went down under Menzies, Holt, McEwen, Gorton, McMahon, Whitlam, Fraser, Hawke, Keating and now Rudd.

Demand outstrips supply and renewables (apart from Hydro) can not supply base load. Everyone knows that.

Hang on, what do you mean, "...now Rudd"?

Well I don't see the use of renewables going up. Who is the current Prime Minister?

The bloke who has been there one month, as opposed to your fallen hero, who has been there (circa) 11 years.

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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable' Reply #69 - Dec 20^th, 2007 at 9:47pm Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2007 at 9:02pm: The bloke who has been there one month, as opposed to your fallen hero, who has been there (circa) 11 years. Yes, then there was those Liebor dudes Hawke and Cheating for 13 years before that. So what's going on Aussie? Can you explain it?
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Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable'
Reply #70 - Dec 21^st, 2007 at 12:05pm

deepthought wrote on Dec 20^th, 2007 at 6:12am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 10:48pm:

deepthought wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 4:51pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 19^th, 2007 at 3:05pm:

deepthought wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:50pm:

IQSRLOW wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 9:45pm:

DRAH would prefer that the world suffers under the strain of continual emittance of GHG rather than containment of energy pollution

I don't understand why he is pro greenhouse gas. Must be a greenie.

Why did Renewables go down under John Howard?

Wink

For the same reason they went down under Menzies, Holt, McEwen, Gorton, McMahon, Whitlam, Fraser, Hawke, Keating and now Rudd.

Demand outstrips supply and renewables (apart from Hydro) can not supply base load. Everyone knows that.

Hang on, what do you mean, "...now Rudd"?

Well I don't see the use of renewables going up. Who is the current Prime Minister?

Perhaps it is your turn to wait?!?

You blokes are a joke!

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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable' Reply #71 - Dec 21^st, 2007 at 5:13pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 21^st, 2007 at 12:05pm: Perhaps it is your turn to wait?!? You blokes are a joke! Thank you. And I don't mind waiting - in fact the longer I wait the more right I become. In every way.
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Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable'
Reply #72 - Dec 22^nd, 2007 at 8:14am

deepthought wrote on Dec 21^st, 2007 at 5:13pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 21^st, 2007 at 12:05pm:

Perhaps it is your turn to wait?!?

You blokes are a joke!

Wink

Thank you.

And I don't mind waiting - in fact the longer I wait the more right I become. In every way. Wink

Except, of course, about the supposed fact that Australia needs Nuclear Power/Waste.... and most other things.

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Re: Aussie emissions targets 'affordable'
Reply #73 - Dec 22^nd, 2007 at 6:58pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2007 at 8:14am:

deepthought wrote on Dec 21^st, 2007 at 5:13pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 21^st, 2007 at 12:05pm:

Perhaps it is your turn to wait?!?

You blokes are a joke!

Wink

Thank you.

And I don't mind waiting - in fact the longer I wait the more right I become. In every way. Wink

Except, of course, about the supposed fact that Australia needs Nuclear Power/Waste.... and most other things.

In as much as the current power generation fuel creates airborne waste (and therefore shifts the problem elsewhere) I guess you're right that we can be quite irresponsible by doing what we have always done.

But I support green policies - hence I voted Liberal.

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Renewable energy target 'unachievable'
Reply #74 - Feb 14^th, 2008 at 6:59pm

http://news.smh.com.au/renewable-energy-target-unachievable/20080214-1s9z.html

The federal opposition predicts the government will be forced to abandon its renewable energy target and include clean coal technology in a new scheme.

Labor went to last year's election with a target of renewable energy making up 20 per cent of power generation by 2020.

But opposition climate change spokesman Greg Hunt believes the government will be forced to adopt the coalition's clean energy target by next year.

The coalition's target of about 15 per cent by 2020 includes the adoption of clean coal and gas technology.

"I predict that under pressure from the CFMEU, business, the bureaucracy and the alternative government, the ALP will have abandoned their current position before the next election," Mr Hunt told a Canberra function.

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