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Aussie emissions targets 'affordable'
Dec 3rd, 2007 at 2:23pm
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Aussie-emissions-targets-affordable/2007/12/03/1196530542715.html

Australia can afford to introduce tough pollution and carbon reduction targets as part of a commitment to curb global warming, a new report says.

The Climate Institute has released findings which it says show there will be little economic impact if Australia establishes measures to reduce greenhouse gases.

The report, prepared by the institute, CSIRO and Monash University, found that if Australia committed to reversing its pollution by 2012, reducing emissions by 20 per cent by 2020, and becoming carbon neutral by 2050, economic growth would not be hampered.

It said under the required changes, economic growth, using GDP as a measure, would be 2.8 per cent annually to 2050, compared with 2.9 per cent if no action was taken.

Employment would increase from 9.7 million to 16.7 million jobs by the middle of the century, while energy prices would fall from six per cent of average income today to four per cent by 2050.



Australia could face penalty under Kyoto

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Australia-could-face-penalty-under-Kyoto/2007/12/03/1196530489002.html

Australia faces high penalties for exceeding its greenhouse-gas emission targets under the Kyoto Protocol, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says.

Climate-change and ratification of Kyoto will be high on the agenda of the new Labor government's first cabinet meeting in Canberra on Monday.

Mr Rudd is hoping the ratification process will be well advanced by the time he arrives in Bali next week for the next round of post-Kyoto discussions.
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Reply #1 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 3:04pm
 
is he going to think about it first ?
Or just wade in, full of bravado, at our expense ?
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Reply #2 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 3:09pm
 
They have had a long time to think about it while in opposition.
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Reply #3 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 7:32pm
 
just answer the question please
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Reply #4 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 8:32pm
 
Did any of you see the ultra broad, and apparently genuine chesire cat grin from Howard Bamsey, our Senior Delegate there, as he announced at Bali that we would sign up for Kyoto?

He was Turnbull's Number One in this area.


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Reply #5 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 8:32pm
 
Whatever you say Sprint. I'll even answer both.

is he going to think about it first ?  

Yes.

Or just wade in, full of bravado, at our expense ?

No.
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Reply #6 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 9:00pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2007 at 8:32pm:
Whatever you say Sprint. I'll even answer both.

is he going to think about it first ?  

Yes.

Or just wade in, full of bravado, at our expense ?

No.


No he's not going to think about it - he already ratified it today even though he knows it will cost the taxpayer dearly.



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Rudd fears Kyoto target won't be met


KEVIN Rudd in his first act as prime minister has ratified the Kyoto Protocol, but warned Australia is likely to face harsh penalties for missing its target under the treaty.

Mr Rudd signed the instrument of ratification after receiving the required approval from Governor-General Michael Jeffery today, coinciding with the start of post-Kyoto talks in Bali.

The news was greeted with applause on the floor of the Bali conference.

Australia would become a full Kyoto member before the end of next March, as the ratification becomes effective 90 days after being received by the United Nations, Mr Rudd said.

"Australia's official declaration today that we will become a member of the Kyoto Protocol is a significant step forward in our country's efforts to fight climate change domestically and with the international community," he said.

Under the treaty, the nation has a target of restricting greenhouse gas emissions to 108 per cent of 1990 levels during the 2008-12 commitment period.

While the former Coalition Government insisted it was on track to meet that goal, Mr Rudd is less confident.

"We are currently likely to ... overshoot our Kyoto target by one per cent," he told ABC Radio.

The Prime Minister said the penalty would be set out under the post-Kyoto deal that kicks in after 2012.

It would include a commitment to a further reduction – 60 million tonnes – in carbon emissions plus a 30 per cent penalty added to the subsequent commitment target.

Make those supporters pay dearly for their support Kevvy




He doesn't give a testicular craptacular for Australians.
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Reply #7 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 9:20pm
 
And we will have to give financial incentives and key technology away to China to make a minute difference to GHG...which may or may not provide any benefit.

Way to f'k us over you LW freaks
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Reply #8 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 9:34pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 3rd, 2007 at 8:32pm:
Did any of you see the ultra broad, and apparently genuine chesire cat grin from Howard Bamsey, our Senior Delegate there, as he announced at Bali that we would sign up for Kyoto?

He was Turnbull's Number One in this area.





I guess no-one read that post of mine.

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Reply #9 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 9:36pm
 
No Aussie I didn't see it.
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Reply #10 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 10:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2007 at 9:36pm:
No Aussie I didn't see it.



Bugger,  It was expressive.

Bamsey has been there for yonks, and through a couple of Ministers, including Turnbull.

His Mission would have been confused, planning wise. 

"I am going to Bali.......if hayseed wins, I'll say this.  If he doesn't, faaaaaark.  Phew, Rudd just rang, and I can say yep to Kyoto."

Wouldn't you just love being a senior beaurocrat?

In his case, this time he did.

Bamsey was the first to announce to the World that we would officially sign up to Kyoto, and he obviously was very pleased to say so.



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Reply #11 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 10:10pm
 
I have no idea who half of those people are.
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Reply #12 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 10:10pm
 
"Wouldn't you just love being a senior beaurocrat?

In his case, this time he did.

Bamsey was the first to announce to the World that we would officially sign up to Kyoto, and he obviously was very pleased to say so."

Of course...bureaucrats live for back slapping- day to day living expenses like power bills and petrol expenses don't actually worry them.
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Reply #13 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 10:12pm
 
They don't worry me either IQ. The sooner they go up the better.

Of course, I would prefer if other prices came down at the same time.
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Reply #14 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 10:18pm
 
They don't worry me either IQ. The sooner they go up the better.

and how much will the subsidies cost the taxpayer to compensate 'downtrodden'
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