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Reply #45 - May 10th, 2008 at 11:12am
 
lapaz62 wrote on May 8th, 2008 at 8:36pm:
True, Indians do take education very seriously, how else could they have completely monopolized the 7/11 business.


And maybe soon the world's I.T.


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Reply #46 - May 12th, 2008 at 5:23pm
 
anything where there is no actual physical labour involved.
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Reply #47 - May 12th, 2008 at 7:39pm
 
lapaz62 wrote on May 8th, 2008 at 8:36pm:
True, Indians do take education very seriously, how else could they have completely monopolized the 7/11 business.


Just a thought, but maybe they're prepared to put up with the verbal abuse most Aussies won't, to earn a dollar. Do you know what it's like working in a 7/11 at 3am in downtown any suburb? Migrants have often done jobs most Aussies won't touch with a barge pole.
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Reply #48 - May 12th, 2008 at 8:42pm
 
Thats what migrants are for, go to any place and the immigrant workers will be doing the crap jobs, they know that before they go there
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Reply #49 - May 12th, 2008 at 9:05pm
 
lapaz62 wrote on May 12th, 2008 at 8:42pm:
Thats what migrants are for, go to any place and the immigrant workers will be doing the crap jobs, they know that before they go there


No nation would long endure without those who volunteered to shovel the S***.
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Reply #50 - May 12th, 2008 at 10:24pm
 
Is it not a contradiction that the immigrants are so well educated and yet doing the crappy jobs, mmmmmm. If you need to have a degree to call me up and sell me something during dinner, drive a cab, work at the petrol station or sell me a coke at 7/11 then your going to the wrong school. I enjoyed the country I had when I was a boy, Its long gone. Do you think that Aussies never did it hard, maybe you weren't here to know.
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Reply #51 - May 13th, 2008 at 7:40am
 
lapaz62 wrote on May 12th, 2008 at 10:24pm:
Is it not a contradiction that the immigrants are so well educated and yet doing the crappy jobs, mmmmmm.


It's more complex than that. Some have medical degrees not recognised in Oz. Others I know are chemists and language translators who are only transit in such industries. These industries seldom have long term employees, who mainly use them as a springboard while doing further studies or seeking work in more advanced fields. The long term cab drivers I know are literally only a handful, and they're not poor by any standards.


lapaz62 wrote on May 12th, 2008 at 10:24pm:
If you need to have a degree to call me up and sell me something during dinner, drive a cab, work at the petrol station or sell me a coke at 7/11 then your going to the wrong school. I enjoyed the country I had when I was a boy, Its long gone. Do you think that Aussies never did it hard, maybe you weren't here to know.


I'm aware that generational Aussies did it hard, after all I was married to a fifth generation Australian with convict ancestry, and know from her grandparents exactly how hard they did it. Oz certainly has changed, and unfortunately in many areas not for the better, but so has the rest of the world. The "downward slide" has been global, not limited to Oz.
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Reply #52 - May 16th, 2008 at 4:27pm
 
The reason that overseas degrees are not recognized here is that there origan can be very dubious, some are simply bought and payed for while others are of a sub- standard nature, if you have a degree that is not recognized, then you dont have a degree. I put on a band aid one day, does that make me a doctor.
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Reply #53 - May 16th, 2008 at 4:31pm
 
Bureaucracy and laziness are probably a big factor also. I can't imagine a public servant or bureaucrat wanting to take on the risk of approving a foreign degree. So we have qualified, experienced doctors driving taxis at the same time as we have a shortage of doctors in our hospitals.

The fools who approved doctor death would no doubt be just as capable of rejecting qualified doctors.
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Reply #54 - May 16th, 2008 at 4:38pm
 
If these people truly have the knowledge, then it should be a breeze to sit a test or be retrained, should it not.
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Reply #55 - May 16th, 2008 at 4:45pm
 
It should be possible to establish a testing regime that doesn't unduly disadvantage foreigners. Whether it has been done, I don't know.
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Reply #56 - May 16th, 2008 at 5:45pm
 
Whats the disadvantage, that they may have to learn english, or pay to re- study.
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Reply #57 - May 16th, 2008 at 5:49pm
 
I meant like doing the degree again. It is reasonable to expect a doctor to be able to speak english.
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Reply #58 - May 16th, 2008 at 6:22pm
 
Like I said, it shoul be easy to pass quickly, if you have the knowledge.
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Reply #59 - May 16th, 2008 at 6:28pm
 
Are you saying it is reasonable to expect them to do the degree again?
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