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Re: Diversity leads to isolation and mistrust
Reply #60 - Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:14pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:11pm:

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You seem to like defending the muslims dont you Abu skeptic?

I don't think skeptic is a muslim... just someone who buys into the myth that muslims are only the way they are because of the way the media portrays them.

Never said he was one, he just kisses their arses.

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Re: Diversity leads to isolation and mistrust
Reply #61 - Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:15pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:10pm:

Excuse me? The Herald Sun is highly censored these days due to the introduction of anti-vilification laws in reaction to the Cronulla protests.

It may have been reported by talkback and local papers but ignored by the more prominent papers and broadcasters to avoid relighting the flames.

i was more referring to Andrew Bolt, his blog is filled with anti-muslim articles. that hasn't let up with the anti-vilification laws.

so if there was a anti-christmas protest by muslims, i'm suprised it wasn't reported in his blog.

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Re: Diversity leads to isolation and mistrust
Reply #62 - Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:19pm

skeptic wrote on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:15pm:

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:10pm:

Excuse me? The Herald Sun is highly censored these days due to the introduction of anti-vilification laws in reaction to the Cronulla protests.

It may have been reported by talkback and local papers but ignored by the more prominent papers and broadcasters to avoid relighting the flames.

i was more referring to Andrew Bolt, his blog is filled with anti-muslim articles. that hasn't let up with the anti-vilification laws.

so if there was a anti-christmas protest by muslims, i'm suprised it wasn't reported in his blog.

Well it happened a while ago now so keep searching... either that.. or the article he wrote about them expired.

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Re: Diversity leads to isolation and mistrust
Reply #63 - Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:20pm

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You seem to like defending the muslims dont you Abu skeptic?

I don't think skeptic is a muslim... just someone who buys into the myth that muslims are only the way they are because of the way the media portrays them.

Never said he was one, he just kisses their arses.

that's funny, no i'm not muslim and i don't kiss anyone's ass.

however, i do reckon that portraying all muslims as violent, sexist, intolerant bunch is not the way to go. since not all muslims are like that, so u shouldn't paint them with one brush. also, doing that makes the situation worse since it increases tensions between muslims and non-muslims, i.e. it adds fuel to the fire.

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Reply #64 - Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:25pm

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however, i do reckon that portraying all muslims as violent, sexist, intolerant bunch is not the way to go. since not all muslims are like that, so u shouldn't paint them with one brush. also, doing that makes the situation worse since it increases tensions between muslims and non-muslims, i.e. it adds fuel to the fire.

You can reckon that if you want, but i Wont change my views.

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Re: Diversity leads to isolation and mistrust
Reply #65 - Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:25pm

skeptic wrote on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:20pm:

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ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:11pm:

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You seem to like defending the muslims dont you Abu skeptic?

I don't think skeptic is a muslim... just someone who buys into the myth that muslims are only the way they are because of the way the media portrays them.

Never said he was one, he just kisses their arses.

that's funny, no i'm not muslim and i don't kiss anyone's ass.

however, i do reckon that portraying all muslims as violent, sexist, intolerant bunch is not the way to go. since not all muslims are like that, so u shouldn't paint them with one brush. also, doing that makes the situation worse since it increases tensions between muslims and non-muslims, i.e. it adds fuel to the fire.

News-flash... the media doesn't portray Muslims unfairly. If anything, they portray them quite favourably.

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Re: Diversity leads to isolation and mistrust
Reply #66 - Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:27pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:25pm:

News-flash... the media doesn't portray Muslims unfairly. If anything, they portray them quite favourably.

so ur saying that every single muslim on the face of the planet is violent, sexist and intolerant of others?
and that the media is actually accurate in portraying them as such?

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Re: Diversity leads to isolation and mistrust
Reply #67 - Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:28pm

skeptic wrote on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:27pm:

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:25pm:

News-flash... the media doesn't portray Muslims unfairly. If anything, they portray them quite favourably.

so ur saying that every single muslim on the face of the planet is violent, sexist and intolerant of others? and that the media is actually accurate in this regard?

Well im certainly agreeing with him.

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Re: Diversity leads to isolation and mistrust
Reply #68 - Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:33pm

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ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:25pm:

News-flash... the media doesn't portray Muslims unfairly. If anything, they portray them quite favourably.

so ur saying that every single muslim on the face of the planet is violent, sexist and intolerant of others? and that the media is actually accurate in this regard?

Well im certainly agreeing with him.

well, muslims make up about 25% of the world's population. so if every single muslim was violent, then u would have 1 in 4 people in the world committing a violent act.

now, using common sense, you would realise that if that were the case, then the war on terror would be a much bigger war and wouldn't be limited to a few countries (e.g. Iraq and Afghanistan).

obviously not all muslims are violent, war-mongering people.

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Re: Diversity leads to isolation and mistrust
Reply #69 - Jun 25^th, 2007 at 5:49pm

actually muslims make up only 20%, 1/5 of the worlds population, most of which is concerntrated in a line countries from indonesia to morroco. You will also find that nearly all of these nations has an appaulling human rights record. so yeh one could say that all the muslims in power are violent, and i cant see why their populations wouldnt be.

Christians make up 1/3 of the worlds population, yet cause alot less violence, interesting.

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Huge pro-secular protest in Turkey
Reply #71 - Feb 3^rd, 2008 at 1:15pm

http://news.smh.com.au/huge-prosecular-protest-in-turkey/20080203-1ps0.html

More than 100,000 Turks took to the streets on Saturday to protest against government plans to lift an Islamic headscarf ban at universities and to defend the country's strong secular tradition.

Protesters called on the government to resign as they gathered at the mausoleum of modern Turkey's founding father Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, a symbol of secularism in the overwhelmingly Muslim country.

Military authorities who manage the mausoleum said 126,500 people demonstrated.

"I am very angry -- not against veiled women but against those who want to cover the republic's values with a veil," said novelist Sevgi Ozel, who was among the protesters.

Cemil Yasavul, 46, said she would "defend secularism until the last drop of my blood ... It is our most precious value."

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Reply #73 - Feb 9^th, 2008 at 8:51pm

Sprint you appear to be under the illusion that this is about muslims vs non-muslims. It is muslims who are behind the push for secular state. Depending on your source, somewhere between 94% and 99.8% of Turks are Muslims. It is the same struggle that has happened or is still happening in every nation on earth under every religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Turkey

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Re: Diversity leads to isolation and mistrust
Reply #74 - Feb 13^th, 2008 at 5:14pm

freediver - turkey was founded on or has moreso recently became a secular society.
seems many muslims don't want islam there, the hardliners are adament though.

Think about it, if the "nonpractising" muslims don't want it, it must be pretty bad.
I disagree with yur last comment, what struggle has any country had with buddhists ?
Or new agers, christianity has given education, health and freedom of speech

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