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Why I'm smarter than Tony Blair [Iraq/Israel]
May 31^st, 2007 at 9:23pm

Tony Blair on Islam:

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“Tell me what exactly they feel angry about? We remove two utterly brutal and dictatorial regimes; we replace them with a UN-supervised democratic process. And the only reason it is difficult still is because other Muslims are using terrorism to try to destroy the fledgling democracy and, in doing so, are killing fellow Muslims. Why aren’t they angry about the people doing the killing?”

Isn't it funny how yours truly is smarter on this topic than a world leader like Tony Blair? -Whom can't even work out why Muslims are still angry despite the removal of brutal dictatorships replacing them with tolerant, democratic Governments?

Could it be that the backbone of Islam is based off intolerance? That Islam itself is based off discipline, conquest and bigotry?

Can't Mr Blair understand that these terrorist organizations represent Islam in its purest form?

Honestly, the stupidity of politicians on Islam really astounds me sometimes. They fail to see Islam for what it really is. Or is Blair just playing dumb for propaganda purposes? Huh

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: Why I'm smarter than Tony Blair. Reply #1 - May 31^st, 2007 at 9:26pm He may have been talking about westerners who are angry about the war. Where did you get that quote from?
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ex-member DonaldTrump Gold Member Offline Oh mere mortals, open your eyes! Posts: 1995 Overseas Gender:	Re: Why I'm smarter than Tony Blair. Reply #2 - May 31^st, 2007 at 9:45pm I'm positive he's talking about the friendly gents in my signature, FD. I got that quote from an article from the Australian website. I couldn't be bothered looking it up. Can you just take my word for it?
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Reply #3 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 10:11am

Donald - yes, you are cleverer than Tony Blair. or maybe he can't say the truth ?
Mind you, he has hinted at it strongly.

It's the grip of tyranny. Conquest and bigotry are good terms.
After mohammad had been intellectually humiliated by the jews he started to slaughter them.
When inventing islam he told them all to pray in the opposeite direction to jerusalem.
Jews had been praying facing jerusalem thousands of years before mohammad was born.
So he had arabs pray facing away from jerusalem, toward mecca.

Wish the complete education was given to muslims.

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Reply #4 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 10:30am

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on May 31^st, 2007 at 9:23pm:

Isn't it funny how yours truly is smarter on this topic than a world leader like Tony Blair? -Whom can't even work out why Muslims are still angry despite the removal of brutal dictatorships replacing them with tolerant, democratic Governments?

the only difference between the dictatorship and the so-called democratic governments is that the democratic government is pro-western. and i use the term "so-called democractic governments" because there was alot of controversy over the accuracy of the election results, suggesting that the results were rigged.

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Could it be that the backbone of Islam is based off intolerance? That Islam itself is based off discipline, conquest and bigotry?

intolerance of ur fellow muslims?? yeah, that makes sense Roll Eyes

surprised Islam hasn't been wiped out already with that mentally, considering that they are fighting one another.

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Can't Mr Blair understand that these terrorist organizations represent Islam in its purest form?

Honestly, the stupidity of politicians on Islam really astounds me sometimes. They fail to see Islam for what it really is. Or is Blair just playing dumb for propaganda purposes? Huh

mate, George W Bush, Tony Blair, John Howard etc have a whole group of advisors regarding Islam so they understand it quite well, so i doubt u know more about Islam than these political leaders.

unless that is, u have a similiar group of specialist Islamic advisors.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: Why I'm smarter than Tony Blair. Reply #5 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 10:32am No I can't DT. I doesn't seem right. Also, what makes you think he doesn't know the answer to that question?
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AusNat Ex Member Gender:	Re: Why I'm smarter than Tony Blair. Reply #6 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 5:25pm Quote: mate, George W Bush, Tony Blair, John Howard etc have a whole group of advisors regarding Islam so they understand it quite well, so i doubt u know more about Islam than these political leaders. Yeah, those who hold interests in israel.
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Reply #7 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 6:20pm

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No I can't DT. I doesn't seem right. Also, what makes you think he doesn't know the answer to that question?

Fair enough. I'll try and locate it for you. But it's a pain in the but when you have sh1tty dial-up. -I'm still in the stone-ages.

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the only difference between the dictatorship and the so-called democratic governments is that the democratic government is pro-western. and i use the term "so-called democractic governments" because there was alot of controversy over the accuracy of the election results, suggesting that the results were rigged.

The difference between western Governments and most Islamic Governments are pretty great, Skeptic.

For example, if you commit adultery, you're put to death. If you're a homo, you're put to death. If you're a woman and you show you're shouders in public, you're punished severely. If you stop following Islam, you're put to death. And why do they make laws like this? Because the Quran commands them to do so.

If democracy was installed in Islam, they'd elect another extremist Government... it's the way of Islam.

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intolerance of ur fellow muslims?? yeah, that makes sense

Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds anyone? Roll Eyes

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mate, George W Bush, Tony Blair, John Howard etc have a whole group of advisors regarding Islam so they understand it quite well, so i doubt u know more about Islam than these political leaders.

George Bush... maybe... but for Howard and Blair... I'm not so sure.

You'd be surprised how bigoted and moronic the US senators actually are, Skeptic. For example, back in the 60's, some US politicians, including the president, saw the world in a black and white way.... Good (USA) Vs Evil (USSR).
-Don't dismiss the possibility that senators and congressman still hold similar idiotic and generalised views.

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Yeah, those who hold interests in israel.

Exactly. Israel plays a huge part in this.

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Reply #8 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 6:26pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 1^st, 2007 at 6:20pm:

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the only difference between the dictatorship and the so-called democratic governments is that the democratic government is pro-western. and i use the term "so-called democractic governments" because there was alot of controversy over the accuracy of the election results, suggesting that the results were rigged.

The difference between western Governments and most Islamic Governments are pretty great, Skeptic.

i was referring to those democratic elections over in Iraq, not democracy in western governments. the election results in Iraq were quite fishy, and it was more a pro-American governments getting elected rather than a government the people wanted - which suggests the election was rigged.

the pro-American governments currently in power in Iraq are no more brutal than the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein, which is why when we say we're liberating the Iraqis that's a total joke. we're just removing a anti-American dictator and replacing him with a pro-American dictator.

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intolerance of ur fellow muslims?? yeah, that makes sense

Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds anyone? Roll Eyes

yeah, that doesn't make sense, because if that was really what Islam teaches then Islam would have wiped itself off due to the continuous in-fighting.

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Reply #9 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 6:33pm

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the election results in Iraq were quite fishy, and it was more a pro-American governments getting elected rather than a government the people wanted - which suggests the election was rigged.

I agree.

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the pro-American governments currently in power in Iraq are no more brutal than the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein

Bvll. It's not the Government that's being brutal.. it's the insurgents that are being brutal.

If the Iraqis would just shut up for two seconds then maybe things would start being peaceful again... oops... 'for the first time in history.' But then again... that's not the way of Islam is it? Roll Eyes

Acceptance, understanding, loving you enemies and tolerance are foreign to them.

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yeah, that doesn't make sense, because if that was really what Islam teaches then Islam would have wiped itself off due to the continuous in-fighting.

'Mr generaliser.'

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Reply #10 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 6:45pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 1^st, 2007 at 6:33pm:

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the pro-American governments currently in power in Iraq are no more brutal than the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein

Bvll. It's not the Government that's being brutal.. it's the insurgents that are being brutal.

i think it's both - the pro-American Iraqi government and the insurgents.

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 1^st, 2007 at 6:33pm:

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If the Iraqis would just shut up for two seconds then maybe things would start being peaceful again... oops... 'for the first time in history.' But then again... that's not the way of Islam is it? Roll Eyes

Acceptance, understanding, loving you enemies and tolerance are foreign to them.

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yeah, that doesn't make sense, because if that was really what Islam teaches then Islam would have wiped itself off due to the continuous in-fighting.

'Mr generaliser.'

u love painting everyone with the one brush don't u??

i think it's quite unusual for a religion to sustain itself if it constantly preaches fighting everyone - including themselves. if it really preached that, then they would have killed themselves off because they're always fighting.

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Reply #11 - Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 7:20pm

Immediately mohammad died there was fighting amongst his followers.
One group thought the next leader should be democratically elected.
The other group thought the next leader should be a descendant of mohammad.

Together they fight against everyone - "Make islam dominant over all other religions."
Seperately, they fight against each other.

In the koran they follow "lshmael" from the Old Testament in the Bible.
A prophecy for him is :
"He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him,
and he will live in hostility toward [b] all his brothers."
Genesis 16:12

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40952 Gender:	Re: Why I'm smarter than Tony Blair. Reply #13 - Jun 3^rd, 2007 at 1:00pm Thanks mate. have been having a good spiritual time here. probably been flowing over. I try to curb myself, sometimes though is very apt.
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Reply #14 - Jun 6^th, 2007 at 1:45am

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i think it's both - the pro-American Iraqi government and the insurgents.

Skeptic... in what ways have the US army delibrately sought out to brutalise the Iraqi people?

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u love painting everyone with the one brush don't u??

I paint you and past presidents and senators during the cold war era as 'generalisers' and I'm already accused of painting everyone with the same brush. Nice. Roll Eyes

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i think it's quite unusual for a religion to sustain itself if it constantly preaches fighting everyone - including themselves. if it really preached that, then they would have killed themselves off because they're always fighting.

It doesn't constantly preach fighting themselves... it preaches fighting everyone BUT themselves... that's my whole point.

Iraq is made up of three different types of Muslim: Kurd, Shiite, Sunni.

Shiite Muslims are killing sunnis and sunnis are killing shiites. It's not rocket science.

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