freediver wrote on Apr 18
th, 2007 at 3:44pm:
I have found sources that make more or less the exact same argument as you do, they are pretty much only religious in nature.
Please link to them. People have said that to me before, but it always turned out to be wrong in some fundamental way.
True, the particular article I am thinking of claimed that natural selection was not scientific either, so it is not strictly the same as your arguments.
Use google scholar or ebscohost to find them yourself you lazy bastard
Quote:You are only making a case by redefining science into your own terms, ones that nobody else accepts, because otherwise scientists would agree with you.
Scientists do agree with me.
Sources?
Quote:Bullsh!t you did, did you even read the links I posted?
No. I assumed that if they were indeed relevant, you would contradict me. Usually someone's inability to put the evidence into their own words is a strong indication that it doesn't exist or doesn't back up their case. You cannot expect people to read whatever you want them to read if you cannot explain how it is relevant or even quote a relevant part. That's what lawyers do to bury information.
Ahh but I did, you claim no empirical study can exist to test evolution, I linked to and quoted a number of empirical studies that have tested and supported predictions of evolutionary theory. You simply dismissed them since "these cannot exist..." and didn't read my sources by your own admission.
Now are you really sure that you are going to say to me that you are perfectly right but unwilling to research the topic?
Quote:Making an argument that ultimately changes a persons view on their beliefs entails changing the frame of reference from which they viewed their beliefs, this does not mean that under their previous point of view their belief was not true.
It means their frame of reference was wrong. Not all errors require a change in reference.
Not wrong, different, you need to drop your ideas of what is right, wrong, superior inferior and accept a neutral position.
Quote:Heh, you seem to think that if someone contradicts YOU they are wrong.
I can only go by experience.
What was that I said about arrogance and ignorance?