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Australian values?
Feb 26^th, 2007 at 2:30pm

Auusie values come up in politics fairly often, expecially with regard to immigration policy. But what are our national values? Do our politicians mean anything when they throw the term around, or are they just hoping people will assume the politicians mean whatever they are thinking of? This also came up in this other thread: http://ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1172321918

So, what are they, and what does each mean?

Some ideas:

freedom
democracy
mateship/being true to your mates
unity

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Reply #1 - Feb 26^th, 2007 at 9:04pm

Our values have changed during the past decade. Moral and ethical values seem to be pushed to the back of our minds as our quest for financial reward takes over. Where we used to be an easygoing nation - road rage, phone rage, bad service rage etc. has replaced it.

As disadvantaged and homeless people, child abuse. stress and depression increase alarmingly - a symptom of industrialisation, we no longer have time to listen to our children, love our neighbours or do a good deed for the day.

So instead of the ten commandments being the formula for our life's values, the seven deadly sins has become our mainstay.

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Reply #3 - Mar 14^th, 2007 at 12:34pm

Australia is a multicultural country that values tolerance. Those who foster intolerance are attacking Australian values. They often hide behind a facade of nationalism, but they really want to turn Australia into something which the majority of Australian people do not want. They draw a line around their own ideology and call that Australian, but most of the country is on the other side of that line.

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Reply #4 - Mar 14^th, 2007 at 5:07pm

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Australia is a multicultural country that values tolerance. Those who foster intolerance are attacking Australian values. They often hide behind a facade of nationalism, but they really want to turn Australia into something which the majority of Australian people do not want. They draw a line around their own ideology and call that Australian, but most of the country is on the other side of that line.

Says who, freediver? Huh

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47436 At my desk.	Re: Australian values? Reply #5 - Mar 14^th, 2007 at 5:28pm Says me, in the post above yours. Any other questions?
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zoso Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 512	Re: Australian values? Reply #6 - Mar 14^th, 2007 at 5:54pm ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Mar 14^th, 2007 at 5:07pm: Says who, freediver? Myself, freediver obviously, and a majority of Australians who continue to support tolerance and multiculturalism (integration if you must), including our own right wing government.
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ex-member DonaldTrump Gold Member Offline Oh mere mortals, open your eyes! Posts: 1995 Overseas Gender:	Re: Australian values? Reply #7 - Mar 14^th, 2007 at 6:23pm Quote: Myself, freediver obviously, and a majority of Australians who continue to support tolerance and multiculturalism (integration if you must), including our own right wing government. 'Majority.' No matter how many times I hear that I can't help laughing.
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aloof boof Full Member Offline the roving ear Posts: 134 outback Gender:	Re: Australian values? Reply #8 - Mar 14^th, 2007 at 10:44pm Where do you get your percent of the"majority"from Freediver??I would disagree with that statement you have made about what the majority think and ask you to supply proof and not just rhetoric
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47436 At my desk.	Re: Australian values? Reply #9 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 9:34am Our political process to begin with. If there really was opposition to multiculturalism, the parties that oppose it would not be so insignificant. I'm sure there's plenty of polls out there too, but I don't see much point backing up what has been confirmed over many elections.
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Reply #10 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 10:42am

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Mar 14^th, 2007 at 6:23pm:

'Majority.' Grin

No matter how many times I hear that I can't help laughing.

Well the polls (true polls, ie elections) disagree with you,as freediver has pointed out above this post.

For all its chest beating about 'citizenship' tests and 'integration' the Howard government continues to support immigration 100%. The political moves to appear 'tough' on immigration are nothing more than empty spin to get the extremist margins like yourself on their side. Sure the citizenship test may sound tough, but who does it apply to? Immigrants as a whole? I think you will find the answer is a resounding no.

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Reply #11 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 3:47pm

Australia is a multicultural country that values tolerance. Those who foster intolerance are attacking Australian values. They often hide behind a facade of nationalism, but they really want to turn Australia into something which the majority of Australian people do not want. They draw a line around their own ideology and call that Australian, but most of the country is on the other side of that line."
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I agree with that Freediver esp the bit about those who foster intolerance attack Aust values..Which then makes these ppl less Australian than the people they are attacking, and in most cases foreigners and aborigines on here I notice,..well said freediver!!!

The intolerant pple who say that though are under 25 Wink

and lacking in experience I notice.

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ex-member DonaldTrump Gold Member Offline Oh mere mortals, open your eyes! Posts: 1995 Overseas Gender:	Re: Australian values? Reply #12 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 12:02am Quote: Where do you get your percent of the"majority"from Freediver??I would disagree with that statement you have made about what the majority think and ask you to supply proof and not just rhetoric BRAVO Aloof! A bit of brains diplayed by someone at last!
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Reply #13 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 2:45pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Mar 16^th, 2007 at 12:02am:

BRAVO Aloof!

A bit of brains diplayed by someone at last! Cool

And what about the elections?

Rest assured if there was meaningful political capital to be had from reenacting the white Australia policy it would have been done by now. Therefore you can quite safely assume that a majority of Australians support immigration and by extension, multiculturalism... as shown by the polls on polling day.

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Reply #14 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 2:57pm

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And what about the elections?

What about em?'

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Rest assured if there was meaningful political capital to be had from reenacting the white Australia policy it would have been done by now.

Who said anything about re-enacting the white Australia policy? Huh

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Therefore you can quite safely assume that a majority of Australians support immigration and by extension, multiculturalism... as shown by the polls on polling day.

Give me a break. Roll Eyes

That's no indication that Australians support multiculturalism or immigration... it merely tells me that there isn't a party who's setting up this policy...

In fact, I think the bulk of the Liberals support comes from the fact that John Howard (A liar a might add) seemed to be more pro-Australia and anti-immigration (We see this with the Nauru affair). This of course, by the stats we now have, isn't true at all. And it's no indication that Australians have a love for immigration nor multiculturalism... in fact... I think it's the opposite.

In fact... let me take you back to 1996 when the One Nation Party came about...

The One Nation Party actually captured a large chunk of the vote... and this is despite a barrage of bad press from the media... with every attempt to defame her in every way... ('Please explain' ring a bell?)

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