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Reply #30 - Mar 6th, 2007 at 9:46pm
 
enviro wrote on Jan 4th, 2007 at 12:21pm:
Over the last 4 years I had reduced myself down from 16 mg to 2 mg cigarettes then they stopped telling us what the mg's were on the packets. A real pain if your shop doesn't have your brand in stock.

For all us smokers know is that what was 2mg could be slowly creeping back to 16mg over time and we wouldn't realise it.

Now they have changed my packet to a charcoal filter. What The? Does this mean I can clean my teeth with it too?*

I am now smoking a packet of cigarettes which I selected just based on colour. Who knows what mg it is.

They preferred to go down the road of puting ghastly photographs on the packet. Why don't they just ban it?




*Aboriginals used charcoal to clean their teeth before toothpaste





I see they have tamed down on the disgusting photographs as of late. It's a start.
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Reply #31 - Mar 6th, 2007 at 10:37pm
 
Cigerettes are bad..ban them..I too an ex smoker..not hard to give up..called will power.
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Reply #32 - Mar 7th, 2007 at 9:45am
 
I have the occasional cigarette when I'm drunk.

All external advertising was removed 20 years ago and it didn't work.

How do you know?
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Reply #33 - Mar 7th, 2007 at 5:25pm
 
freediver..

are you an ex smoker? or just a social Undecided smoker?  stop it now I say ..!!!!
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Reply #34 - Mar 7th, 2007 at 5:45pm
 
I have never beena addicted. I've only ever smoked occasionally.
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Reply #35 - Mar 7th, 2007 at 6:02pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2007 at 9:45am:
All external advertising was removed 20 years ago and it didn't work.

How do you know?


How do I know if it didn't work? or How do I know it was 20 years ago?

Actually there is still external advertising happening like empty cig packets and bumpers lying around in the street. Everytime a smoker lights up a cigarette they are advertising the fact that smoking is alright. This is how I know it didn't and wouldn't work by banning advertising from the cig companies. Roll Eyes

As for the 20 years ago the statement was just a guestimate. Smiley
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Reply #36 - Mar 7th, 2007 at 6:13pm
 
So you know it didn't work because people still advertise cigarettes for free by smoking them?
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Reply #37 - Mar 7th, 2007 at 6:33pm
 
No what I'm saying is that it's more than an advertising problem it has become a social problem.
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Reply #38 - Mar 9th, 2007 at 10:15am
 
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Cigerettes are bad..ban them..I too an ex smoker..not hard to give up..called will power.


Is this a case of "If I can do it everyone can" attitude?

We are all individuals Ausgurl. Addictive personalities is a common thing. When someone gives up one addiction they need to replace it, or fill that void, and generally it may mean replacing it by another bad addiction. Personally I was a chronic gambler many many years ago and I replaced that addiction with the computer. It worked but it took a long time.

When people have a lot of free time on their hands is when they are most likely to pick up some type of bad addiction. This is why a low unemployment rate is of great benefit to society.

Single people that don't work are more likely to have many different bad addictions due to all the free time that this creates.
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Reply #39 - Mar 9th, 2007 at 5:22pm
 
You made some good points Enviro.  Smoking is an addiction, and often those who have successfully given up, find another addiction to replace it.  As long as it's a healthy addiction it doesn't matter, but for those who find it difficult to give up - we deserve understanding not harrassment.

What I think they're trying to do with all this negative advertising is kill us quicker.  It's like the power of suggestion or pointing the bone.  All you ever hear is - you'll die of cancer, gangrene, a heart attack or something else equally as horrific.  Instead of hearing this negative message - it's easier to turn the TV or radio off.

The advertising isn't working as well as they like so they definitely need to try another angle to encourage people to quit - ban them altogether.
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Reply #40 - Mar 9th, 2007 at 6:09pm
 
Hi Mantra

very good analysis. I never looked in that direction but you are right. Maybe it's a new way for cigarette companies to promote? It keeps the seed alive. Smiley
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Smoking ban for cars in force in SA
Reply #41 - May 31st, 2007 at 9:08pm
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Smoking-ban-for-cars-in-force-in-SA/2007/05/31/1180205402770.html

One of the last havens for smokers, the family car, is under siege in South Australia - and other states may soon follow.

South Australia has banned anyone lighting up in their car while carrying children as passengers.

The smoking ban is an Australian first and applies when children under the age of 16 are in the car.

It will attract a $75 on-the-spot fine, although repeat offenders could be forced to pay as much as $200.

Smoking may damage your sperm: study

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Smoking-may-damage-your-sperm-study/2007/06/03/1180809311163.html

Here's one more reason not to smoke - smoking may damage sperm, passing along genetic damage to a man's children, Canadian researchers report.

A study in mice shows that cigarette smoke caused changes in the DNA of sperm cells, the researchers said in this week's issue of the journal Cancer Research. Such mutations, know as germline mutations, are known to be permanent.

"We have known that mothers who smoke can harm their foetuses, and here we show evidence that fathers can potentially damage offspring long before they may even meet their future mate."



NSW Nats push for smoking ban in cars

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/NSW-Nats-push-for-smoking-ban-in-cars/2007/06/15/1181414523248.html

Smoking in vehicles carrying passengers under the age of 16 would be banned in NSW under a proposal supported by the state's Nationals.

At a state conference in Singleton, in the Hunter region, NSW Nationals delegates voted in favour of the motion to support the legislation.



The low rate in central London is probably more to do with age.

Maps show smoking, cancer blackspots

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Maps-show-smoking-cancer-blackspots/2007/06/24/1182623713843.html

Maps showing the health and income profile of every council in England have been being published by the government.

The charts, published for the second year running, are designed to help local officials identify areas and populations where public health needs improvement.

They show that Chiltern in Buckinghamshire has the lowest number of deaths from smoking with 147 people dying per 100,000, while Kensington and Chelsea in central London has the fewest dying from cancer - 81 deaths per 100,000 people.

Summarised at a regional level, the charts show that people in the north west are the most likely to die from smoking related diseases, from cancer and from heart disease and stroke.



England stubs out public smoking

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/England-stubs-out-public-smoking/2007/06/30/1182624211623.html

England slams the door on smoking in bars, workplaces and public buildings this weekend in what campaigners hail as the biggest boost to public health since the creation of the National Health Service in 1948.



Smoking 'as difficult to kick as ever'

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Smoking-as-difficult-to-kick-as-ever/2007/06/30/1182624211824.html

Nicotine reaches the brain as quickly as 10 seconds after inhalation, triggering feelings of pleasure, increasing heart rate and raising blood pressure.

But alongside the nicotine, smokers breathe in a deadly cocktail of chemicals including arsenic, formaldehyde and polonium.

"Cigarette smoke contains at least 69 different cancer-causing chemicals and thousands of other poisons which can increase the risk of several different types of cancer," said Ed Yong of Cancer Research.

"Nicotine itself doesn't cause cancer, it just keeps the smokers hooked," he added.

Tobacco is so addictive that doctors writing in the Lancet medical journal this year said it should be classified as an illegal drug, on a par with amphetamines and barbiturates.



Swag of new laws come into force in NSW

Smokers and young drivers will be the groups most targeted by new laws coming into force in NSW on Sunday.

An expansion of the ban on smoking in licensed premises and tightened restrictions on P-platers and learner drivers are among a swag of new laws and fee changes taking effect with the start of the new financial year on July 1.

Drinkers who like a smoke with their tipple do get a further day's grace but will no longer be able to light up indoors in licensed premises from July 2. The only exemptions are private gaming rooms at Star City Casino.



High rollers can keep puffing in Vic

http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking-news/high-rollers-can-keep-puffing-in-vic/2007/06/29/1182624159769.html

The Victorian government has defended its decision to continue to allow high rollers to smoke at Crown Casino, despite state-wide bans for all other venues that start on Sunday.

From July 1, smoking will be banned in all enclosed licensed pubs, clubs, bars and gaming rooms across Victoria - except high-roller rooms at Crown in Melbourne.

Stafford Sanders of SmokeFree Australia says all enclosed workplaces should be smoke-free and giving an exemption to Crown was wrong.
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Experts suggest chewing tobacco proposal
Reply #42 - Jul 4th, 2007 at 4:35pm
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Experts-suggest-chewing-tobacco-proposal/2007/07/04/1183351265959.html

Smokeless tobacco should be legalised and promoted to smokers as a less dangerous alternative to cigarettes, public health experts have urged.

Two Queensland academics have launched an argument calling for Australians to be informed about so-called snus chewing tobacco, and even encouraged to use it in place of standard tobacco.

But the controversial proposal has been criticised by others in the field who say publicly plugging the tobacco product would be irresponsible and counter-productive.

Professor Wayne Hall and Carol Gartner, from the School of Population Health at the University of Queensland, said it was time Australia dropped its snus ban, instituted in the 1980s.



Vic pubs see new breed of non-smokers

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Vic-pubs-see-new-breed-of-nonsmokers/2007/07/10/1183833482420.html

A new breed of pub-goers is emerging as smoking bans are enforced across Victoria.

Early reports indicate that non-smokers are coming out in force, as cigarette smoke no longer hovers in bars.



Outdoor smoking ban 'inevitable in WA'

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Outdoor-smoking-ban-inevitable-in-WA/2007/07/26/1185339156495.html

Smoking in outdoor dining areas will inevitably be banned in Western Australia, Premier Alan Carpenter says.

Fremantle Council voted on Wednesday to ban smoking in outdoor cafe and restaurant areas, including the port city's famous cafe strip.



Crackdown on smoking in cars with kids

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Crackdown-on-smoking-in-cars-with-kids/2007/07/30/1185647781693.html

The South Australian government says it is disappointing some adults continue to smoke in cars while children are present despite new laws banning the habit.

Substance Abuse Minister Gail Gago said fourteen $75 on-the-spot fines had been issued by police since the new bans were introduced two months ago.

A further seven cautions had also been issued.



Printers as bad as cigarettes: study

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Printers-as-bad-as-cigarettes-study/2007/07/31/1185647874169.html

The humble office printer could be posing as much danger to the lungs as a drag on a cigarette, according to air quality tests by Australian scientists.

An investigation of dozens of laser printers revealed that almost 30 per cent emit potentially dangerous levels of tiny toner-like material into the air.

These ultra-fine particles are capable of infiltrating the lungs and causing lasting damage on the scale of inhaled cigarette smoke, said researcher Professor Lidia Morawska, from the Queensland University of Technology.



More quitting as smoking bans bite

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/More-quitting-as-smoking-bans-bite/2007/07/31/1185647902529.html

Smoking bans in Victorian pubs, bars and clubs has prompted a sharp rise in the number of people calling the state's anti-smoking hotline for help to quit the habit.

Quit Victoria acting director Suzie Stillman said more than 2,300 people had phoned the Quitline since the bans took effect on July 1 - 27 per cent more calls than in the month before July 1.



US city bans smoking in apartments

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/US-city-bans-smoking-in-apartments/2007/10/11/1191696026755.html

The city of Belmont just south of San Francisco has banned smoking in multi-unit apartment buildings, making it one of the first cities in the world to take such draconian measures against secondhand smoke.

The Belmont City Council passed the ordinance on a 3-2 vote on Tuesday, declaring secondhand smoke a public nuisance and extending the city's current smoking ban to include individual apartments in multi-unit, multi-story residences.

Smoking will be permitted only in designated outdoor areas of multi-unit housing, local TV station NBC 11 reported.
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Adelaide world's first 'smoke free' city
Reply #43 - Dec 16th, 2007 at 3:47pm
 
http://news.smh.com.au/adelaide-worlds-first-smoke-free-city/20071216-1hcs.html

Adelaide would be the first smoke free city in the world, under proposed legislation to be debated in state parliament next year.

The Tobacco Products Regulation (A Smoke-Free Adelaide) Amendment Bill 2007 would ban smoking in Adelaide for at least one day of the year, with maximum penalties of $200 to go to the Cancer Council.

The bill is being put forward by opposition police spokesman David Ridgway and will be introduced to parliament on February 13, 2008.

Mr Ridgway said the bill proposed the Friday before World No Tobacco Day be smoke free, and also possibly the day of the annual Credit Union Christmas Pageant.

He said he believed it should be introduced on both days, but it was up to the public to debate the issue and decide which day and how many.
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Reply #44 - Dec 16th, 2007 at 6:31pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 16th, 2007 at 3:47pm:
http://news.smh.com.au/adelaide-worlds-first-smoke-free-city/20071216-1hcs.html

Adelaide would be the first smoke free city in the world, under proposed legislation to be debated in state parliament next year.

The Tobacco Products Regulation (A Smoke-Free Adelaide) Amendment Bill 2007 would ban smoking in Adelaide for at least one day of the year, with maximum penalties of $200 to go to the Cancer Council.

The bill is being put forward by opposition police spokesman David Ridgway and will be introduced to parliament on February 13, 2008.

Mr Ridgway said the bill proposed the Friday before World No Tobacco Day be smoke free, and also possibly the day of the annual Credit Union Christmas Pageant.

He said he believed it should be introduced on both days, but it was up to the public to debate the issue and decide which day and how many.


How will they police it?
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