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Message started by Brian Ross on May 27th, 2022 at 2:28pm

Title: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Brian Ross on May 27th, 2022 at 2:28pm
Religious leaders support constitutional referendum on Indigenous voice to parliament [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by FutureTheLeftWant on May 27th, 2022 at 2:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Religious leaders support constitutional referendum on Indigenous voice to parliament [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Yeah, one more good thing we get from kicking out the far right

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Frank on May 27th, 2022 at 3:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Religious leaders support constitutional referendum on Indigenous voice to parliament [smiley=thumbsup.gif]



Why is this not under "what the clergy has been up to", cockwomble?


Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Bobby. on May 27th, 2022 at 3:43pm
A very loose definition of what they want:


Quote:
a representative body that can help shape policy directed at First Nations people
- to be enshrined in Australia's constitution.



I hope it's not just code for more hand outs?

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by FutureTheLeftWant on May 27th, 2022 at 3:46pm

Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 3:43pm:
A very loose definition of what they want:


Quote:
a representative body that can help shape policy directed at First Nations people
- to be enshrined in Australia's constitution.



I hope it's not just code for more hand outs?


Yes, be terrible if we gave money to people we set out to drive to extinction...

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Bobby. on May 27th, 2022 at 3:49pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 3:43pm:
A very loose definition of what they want:


Quote:
a representative body that can help shape policy directed at First Nations people
- to be enshrined in Australia's constitution.



I hope it's not just code for more hand outs?


Yes, be terrible if we gave money to people we set out to drive to extinction...



How many $billions have we given them already?
Does anyone know?

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by FutureTheLeftWant on May 27th, 2022 at 3:50pm

Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 3:49pm:
How many $billions have we given them already?
Does anyone know?


I'm willing to agree we could have spent it better.  By doing real things, like a voice in parliament

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 27th, 2022 at 4:09pm
This .... errr.. voice in Plaguiament as regards Aboriginal things ONLY.... apart from the massive generalisation - what is it exactly that they want?

A say in policy that affects Aboriginals?  Well - such things affect everybody.... it's like feminist demands - it's not as if they are living in isolation.... one person's meat is another person's poison....

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Boris on May 27th, 2022 at 4:43pm
Do you want to give political power to stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children?

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by The Heartless Felon on May 27th, 2022 at 4:43pm
They already have a voice in parliament; they used it last Saturday...

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Belgarion on May 27th, 2022 at 4:44pm
There are currently 10 Aboriginals in the Australian parliament. This represents 4% of the seats. Aboriginals make up 3% of the population.  If one really cared about such things one could say that Aboriginals are over represented in Parliament.

Wipe the egg off your faces virtue signallers. ::)


Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Boris on May 27th, 2022 at 4:44pm
they still rape and murder children

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Gnads on May 27th, 2022 at 4:46pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 2:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Religious leaders support constitutional referendum on Indigenous voice to parliament [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Yeah, one more good thing we get from kicking out the far right


I thought you held scant regard for religions & their leaders?

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Gnads on May 27th, 2022 at 4:47pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 3:43pm:
A very loose definition of what they want:


Quote:
a representative body that can help shape policy directed at First Nations people
- to be enshrined in Australia's constitution.



I hope it's not just code for more hand outs?


Yes, be terrible if we gave money to people we set out to drive to extinction...


As if we haven't be paying restitution in one form or another for the past 50 years at least.

How much is enough you guilt ridden buffoon?

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Boris on May 27th, 2022 at 5:06pm
Domestic and family violence
An Aboriginal woman is 45 times more likely to experience domestic violence than a white woman. Violence patterns are passed on from parents to their children.



Source: Domestic and family violence - Creative Spirits, retrieved from

https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/domestic-and-family-vi...

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by aquascoot on May 27th, 2022 at 5:09pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 3:43pm:
A very loose definition of what they want:


Quote:
a representative body that can help shape policy directed at First Nations people
- to be enshrined in Australia's constitution.



I hope it's not just code for more hand outs?


Yes, be terrible if we gave money to people we set out to drive to extinction...



if you want to demolish someones future, give them a dollar they didnt earn

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 27th, 2022 at 5:32pm
They have a party of their own and the same Voice as everyone else, and then some, given the publicity they get for all their grievances and their behaviours that they blame on everyone else...

What exactly is such a 'voice' going to do to alter any of those things?

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by greggerypeccary on May 27th, 2022 at 5:36pm

Boris wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Do you want to give political power to stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children?


The Trumps are out of the White House now.

Time to move on.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Frank on May 27th, 2022 at 6:18pm

Boris wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 5:06pm:
Domestic and family violence
An Aboriginal woman is 45 times more likely to experience domestic violence than a white woman. Violence patterns are passed on from parents to their children.



Source: Domestic and family violence - Creative Spirits, retrieved from

https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/domestic-and-family-vi...



Oh, but it will all stop once they have a voice in parliament.  Just like the seas stopped rising and black on black violence stopped when O'Bama was prez.

They are monstering each other only in search of a voice in parliament. It's a cry for democracy. Everyone knows THAT!!!!

Albo will get a Nobel Prize, too, jointly with Lydia, oh Lydia.








Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 27th, 2022 at 6:34pm
Hmm - Lefty is on his way home from the office again... give him an hour or so and he'll retort with more nonsense.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 27th, 2022 at 6:52pm

Boris wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 4:44pm:
they still rape and murder children


And account for the vast majority of women killings... also of men killings, which is amazing considering they are only 3% of the population... either they get their voice or they'll bash you up to prove they are not violent ...

There is no place for any special voice in a democracy - all have the same ability to change things by voting or standing, and law requires that all be treated equally.

Mussos are 2.6% - why don't they have a special voice? Asians? Wharteys?  Gee - if we keep this up everyone could have a special voice and thus no need for a special voice at all from the start.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Xavier on May 27th, 2022 at 6:59pm

Boris wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Do you want to give political power to stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children?


Well get the f*uck off their land and out of their country then 'invader'!

The Pommies are leaving. Future King William will roll up the Union Jack off the Australia Flag and say "Good riddance  you filthy criminal aussie scum. We set you free in a place as far from us as we could have sent you!"
America will sell you guns so you can shoot more Coons like the Free Settlers did 200 years ago with their 'right to own a gun'.

Bend the knee Boris and serve the rightful owners and rulers of this land - even if you're scared they're gonna eat your babies like some anti-nazi propaganda pamphlett.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 27th, 2022 at 7:28pm
Hasn't been their land by their rules for 234 years now... sorry 'bout that .... they get paid their subsistence money every fortnight... and some:-

https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fishing/aboriginal-fishing/AFTF

Not gonna watch the 'welcome to MY country' thing tonight for the football.  Go back to Nu Zulland, Jase... more at home there.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Steampipe on May 27th, 2022 at 11:45pm
Do you need to have a referendum to decide if you should have a referendum.

68% of people believe that referendums are a waste of time.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Bobby. on May 27th, 2022 at 11:53pm

Gnads wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 3:43pm:
A very loose definition of what they want:


Quote:
a representative body that can help shape policy directed at First Nations people
- to be enshrined in Australia's constitution.



I hope it's not just code for more hand outs?


Yes, be terrible if we gave money to people we set out to drive to extinction...


As if we haven't be paying restitution in one form or another for the past 50 years at least.

How much is enough you guilt ridden buffoon?



;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 28th, 2022 at 12:19am
The time is overdue for a total change of governance style and preference for special interest groups.....

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Raven on May 28th, 2022 at 1:02am
Australia is the only first world nation with a colonial history that doesn't recognise its first people in its constitution.

If it's good for others why isn't good for us?

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 28th, 2022 at 1:38am

Raven wrote on May 28th, 2022 at 1:02am:
Australia is the only first world nation with a colonial history that doesn't recognise its first people in its constitution.

If it's good for others why isn't good for us?


Really?

Show us .......

Then tell us what 'recognise' means..... we sure recognise them..... doesn't confer on them special rights etc...just like every other first world nation...

The US recognises Native Americans.... they still have massive problems...

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Boris on May 28th, 2022 at 9:54am

Jasin wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 6:59pm:

Boris wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Do you want to give political power to stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children?


Well get the f*uck off their land and out of their country then 'invader'!

The Pommies are leaving. Future King William will roll up the Union Jack off the Australia Flag and say "Good riddance  you filthy criminal aussie scum. We set you free in a place as far from us as we could have sent you!"
America will sell you guns so you can shoot more Coons like the Free Settlers did 200 years ago with their 'right to own a gun'.

Bend the knee Boris and serve the rightful owners and rulers of this land - even if you're scared they're gonna eat your babies like some anti-nazi propaganda pamphlett.


You should go live in the NT and work in the hospitals.

They rape and murder children all the time - its called Initiation.

As far as I know they have stopped eating them - but I would not be surprised if they still do. They still did when I first went to the NT.

For some strange reason you think this is wonderful behaviour from wonderful people.

Well I have seen it and had to deal with it and I am appalled

This is my country not theirs

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Gnads on May 28th, 2022 at 11:26am

Raven wrote on May 28th, 2022 at 1:02am:
Australia is the only first world nation with a colonial history that doesn't recognise its first people in its constitution.

If it's good for others why isn't good for us?


In what way would you perceive this recognition be manifested in the constitution?

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 28th, 2022 at 1:23pm
Jesus - we've lost our echo chamber boy..... weekend non-warrior.....

How are we going to get our comic relief?  Did one of you guys report him?  He was a fair representation of the rabid and unthinking views of the extreme Woke, and thus was great value in having his arguments torn to shreds every time.... what a waste.

Now listen up, guys - I got out of bed and my left arm wouldn't control it self, I couldn't talk easily and now I've got light flashes in one eye.  I'll be gone for a while... gotta check about a possible small stroke.

Save me a spot for later.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by The Heartless Felon on May 28th, 2022 at 1:47pm
Good luck Grap, hope it's OK

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 28th, 2022 at 1:49pm
I'll be fine - headache nothing unusual with sinus etc, and ambos coming.. get to talk to some intern - always the weekend... and the ex can't drive.

Buggar - and not even a good argument with Lefty before I go...  :'(

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 28th, 2022 at 2:50pm
All clear for the moment - talk to my doc Monday.

Anyway - I'm voting NO on the principle that everyone has the same voice - anti-Apartheid, anti- special treatment for some.....

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Brian Ross on May 28th, 2022 at 3:14pm
I hope you recover, Graps.  Having had a minor stroke I know something of what you experiencing.  Get them to put the "lights and music" on for your ride to hospital and get that anti-coagulant into your system ASAP.   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by UnSubRocky on May 28th, 2022 at 3:24pm
Best that you relax away from OzPol for a while. You will need to destress. It has been a long time since I have had a minor stroke. I do not recall seeing a doctor about it because it seemed like nothing more than an inconvenience. My boss at the time told me that I looked like I had recently had a stroke. All I did to fix the problem was to eat healthy and have exercise until I was relatively okay. The doctors will tell you the professional opinion on the mattter to deal with health problems.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 28th, 2022 at 4:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2022 at 3:14pm:
I hope you recover, Graps.  Having had a minor stroke I know something of what you experiencing.  Get them to put the "lights and music" on for your ride to hospital and get that anti-coagulant into your system ASAP.   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]



Blood thinners already for heart, which help, so it seems to have gone away.  Tests but of course, call if anything happens.  Taking it easy.... two gorgeous young lady ambos..... that's my bag.......

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Gnads on May 28th, 2022 at 7:00pm

Jasin wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 6:59pm:

Boris wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Do you want to give political power to stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children?


Well get the f*uck off their land and out of their country then 'invader'!

The Pommies are leaving. Future King William will roll up the Union Jack off the Australia Flag and say "Good riddance  you filthy criminal aussie scum. We set you free in a place as far from us as we could have sent you!"
America will sell you guns so you can shoot more Coons like the Free Settlers did 200 years ago with their 'right to own a gun'.

Bend the knee Boris and serve the rightful owners and rulers of this land - even if you're scared they're gonna eat your babies like some anti-nazi propaganda pamphlett.


You first you parasite.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Xavier on May 28th, 2022 at 7:23pm
If its going to be anything like that Vote For Gays against evil homophobic Rednecks crap.
Then I'm not interested (in either).
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 28th, 2022 at 8:04pm

Jasin wrote on May 28th, 2022 at 7:23pm:
If its going to be anything like that Vote For Gays against evil homophobic Rednecks crap.
Then I'm not interested (in either).
Two wrongs don't make a right.



How many homophobic Rednecks do you know?  I've never met one.

i.e. where is the first 'wrong'?  The paranoia of homos?  That's someone else's fault, not theirs?  they've been listening to the feminists, just like the Abos have.... nothing is their fault.

You know what that reminds me of?  Drug freaks thinking everyone is out to get them - a reflection of their own knowledge that what they are doing is illegal etc, and exacerbated by their drug use. 

Exactly the same - if they feel like it, it must be right, eh?

That insanity has permeated long and far enough into our culture and lifestyle - time for it to be discarded and returned to the dust bin of insanity.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Xavier on May 28th, 2022 at 8:25pm
True.

Gays are sexual under-achievers and financial over (indulgent) achievers.
Rednecks are sexual over-achievers (having more kids than they can provide for) and financial under-achievers.
Both are men who like touching other men for either violence or sex or both.

Two wrongs, right there my friend.
Two wrongs that the Media forced Australian people to try and 'choose' between - when there should have been no choice at all. Those who wanted more 'money' - voted for the Gays. The Media is full of sex-deviant Rednecks too like Mr Hey Dad, Rolf Harris and more.
Gays and Rednecks are trying to ruin this country of ours.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by agnesss on May 28th, 2022 at 8:28pm
gays and rednecks you say? then move over and give up already!!

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Belgarion on May 28th, 2022 at 8:40pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 28th, 2022 at 1:23pm:
Jesus - we've lost our echo chamber boy..... weekend non-warrior.....

How are we going to get our comic relief?  Did one of you guys report him?  He was a fair representation of the rabid and unthinking views of the extreme Woke, and thus was great value in having his arguments torn to shreds every time.... what a waste.

Now listen up, guys - I got out of bed and my left arm wouldn't control it self, I couldn't talk easily and now I've got light flashes in one eye.  I'll be gone for a while... gotta check about a possible small stroke.

Save me a spot for later.


Look after yourself Graps.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 28th, 2022 at 8:47pm
I'm back - gotta talk to my doc on Monday.

Voting NO for any special voice and apartheid.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Boris on May 29th, 2022 at 10:08am
A referendum on giving power to these people


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGNYeZzXSec[/quote]

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Frank on May 29th, 2022 at 10:41am

Brian Ross wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Religious leaders support constitutional referendum on Indigenous voice to parliament [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


there are 10 Aboriginal-identifying parliamentarians out of 226 = 4.5%.  (Seven are women, so there is a severe gender imbalance). Aboriginese are 3.3% of the population.

By that reckoning they have not only an Aboriginal voice in parliament but are overrepresented in parliament.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by walker on May 29th, 2022 at 11:06am

Boris wrote on May 29th, 2022 at 10:08am:
A referendum on giving power to these people


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGNYeZzXSec
[/quote]

And these. They should send their kids to school and get jobs if they want recognition.



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Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 29th, 2022 at 11:37am

Frank wrote on May 29th, 2022 at 10:41am:
there are 10 Aboriginal-identifying parliamentarians out of 226 = 4.5%.  (Seven are women, so there is a severe gender imbalance). Aboriginese are 3.3% of the population.

By that reckoning they have not only an Aboriginal voice in parliament but are overrepresented in parliament.


Well - it seems to be more the women, who obviously, with the kill ratio etc, have more to lose, who speak out about the real problems and actively seek solutions such as getting into positions from which they can change things.

It seems the Silverbacks are the prime cause out there, which is a terrible reflection on manhood in general, but must never be applied to all men as the mad social scientists have done with their 'DV' nonsense - blaming all men for the terrible behaviour of a few.  No discrimination from that lot - can't pont the finger squarely where the principal problems lie - all men are to blame and anyway Whartey caused it all.  See mothra.

The sooner Australia wakes up to the terrible harm done by those kinds of idiot fanatics, and starts to consider how to really fix things, the better.  They are a huge part of the problem, with their ardent desire to bring down society as it is to build their Nirvana that will suit only them.

Sadly, modern Labor is in that category, but their great revolution is only for the lesser beings in society - the Untermenschen.... those movers for this are your first enemy, and they are the ones who reckon all will be good if we just give the Kaffir their demands.

For example - this 'truthtelling' is only going to be a rendition of what Whartey did to them and how it hurt them all and caused all their problems - not one word will be uttered about personal responsibiity for killing and abuse and violence which were always part of their 'culture'.  Albo will nod like a sideshow clown head, bow down and kiss the arse of the Kaffir and his feminist and gay handlers, and nothing will change except the violence and hatred against general society will increase until something terrible occurs.

Wait until Lefty gets back to join village idiot Smith - they'll tell you all about it and how racist you are... me being the worst because I speak truth.....   ::)  ::)  ::)

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by UnSubRocky on May 30th, 2022 at 1:55am

Johnnie wrote on May 29th, 2022 at 11:06am:
And these. They should send their kids to school and get jobs if they want recognition.


They should get educated themselves. Much of it is through reading. And if they cannot read, they should get help to learn how to read. And then they can get off the sit-down money and find ways of getting meaningful work in entry-level work.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Xavier on May 30th, 2022 at 2:10am
Sahul

Alpha Males: Red, White, Brown, Green
Alpha Females: Black, Yellow, Blue, Grey

Beta Females: Red, White, Brown, Green
Beta Males: Black, Yellow, Blue, Grey

...to clarify the Red, White, Blue, Grey
Blue: Brunette, light skin, northern European origin (Skandi)
Grey: Raven hair, pale skin, southern European origin (Latin)
Red: Red hair, fair skin, western European origin (Celtic)
White: Blonde, white skin, eastern European origin (Slavic)

Thems the breaks folks.

Alphas: Takers of Future
Betas: Keepers of the Past

Alphas in Tennis:
#1 male: Llendl
#2 female: Evette-Lloyd

Betas:
#2 male: McEnroe
#1 female: Navratilova

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Gnads on May 30th, 2022 at 8:11am

Jasin wrote on May 30th, 2022 at 2:10am:
Sahul

Alpha Males: Red, White, Brown, Green
Alpha Females: Black, Yellow, Blue, Grey

Beta Females: Red, White, Brown, Green
Beta Males: Black, Yellow, Blue, Grey

...to clarify the Red, White, Blue, Grey
Blue: Brunette, light skin, northern European origin (Skandi)
Grey: Raven hair, pale skin, southern European origin (Latin)
Red: Red hair, fair skin, western European origin (Celtic)
White: Blonde, white skin, eastern European origin (Slavic)

Thems the breaks folks.

Alphas: Takers of Future
Betas: Keepers of the Past

Alphas in Tennis:
#1 male: Llendl
#2 female: Evette-Lloyd

Betas:
#2 male: McEnroe
#1 female: Navratilova



Repeating the same old gear induced fantasies.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by FutureTheLeftWant on May 30th, 2022 at 8:14am

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2022 at 8:11am:

Jasin wrote on May 30th, 2022 at 2:10am:
Sahul

Alpha Males: Red, White, Brown, Green
Alpha Females: Black, Yellow, Blue, Grey

Beta Females: Red, White, Brown, Green
Beta Males: Black, Yellow, Blue, Grey

...to clarify the Red, White, Blue, Grey
Blue: Brunette, light skin, northern European origin (Skandi)
Grey: Raven hair, pale skin, southern European origin (Latin)
Red: Red hair, fair skin, western European origin (Celtic)
White: Blonde, white skin, eastern European origin (Slavic)

Thems the breaks folks.

Alphas: Takers of Future
Betas: Keepers of the Past

Alphas in Tennis:
#1 male: Llendl
#2 female: Evette-Lloyd

Betas:
#2 male: McEnroe
#1 female: Navratilova



Repeating the same old gear induced fantasies.


alphas are left wing and betas are right wing? I mean, sure....


Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by UnSubRocky on May 30th, 2022 at 1:54pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 30th, 2022 at 8:14am:
alphas are left wing and betas are right wing? I mean, sure....


Left-wing is usually more passive. Right-wing is more assertive. We just saw an election where this is true. Both major parties somewhat right-wing.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Boris on May 30th, 2022 at 2:12pm
Antifa and BLM murdered people in the streets and set fires destroyed properties

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by mothra on May 30th, 2022 at 2:31pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 29th, 2022 at 11:37am:
blaming all men for the terrible behaviour of a few.  No discrimination from that lot - can't pont the finger squarely where the principal problems lie - all men are to blame and anyway Whartey caused it all.  See mothra.


Yet more evidence you don't understand what's said to you.

I have never blamed all men. In fact, i go out of my way to make disclaimers about not all men, and how many of my favourite people are men ... because i know full well how you lot have glass jaws.

And another thing i've said to you a million times .. you're so precious about being associated with the most badly behaved of your demographic you're perpetually jumping at shadows over it. But it is you, not i, that relegated whole demographics to the worst case representatives of their groups. You who cannot even read the word Aboriginal without going on a tirade about crime stats, irrespective of the context And to cap it off, you proudly use the most offensive language you can muster.

As i said, all this has been pointed out to you many, many times. I've no expectation that you will understand your hypocrisy any better having it explained to you again. You're just too bone-headed, belligerent and just plain dumb.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 30th, 2022 at 2:32pm

Boris wrote on May 30th, 2022 at 2:12pm:
Antifa and BLM murdered people in the streets and set fires destroyed properties



Very peaceful - Lefty reckons all the victims were Nazis anyway..... if they weren't they wouldn't have been targeted, would they?  DUH....

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 30th, 2022 at 2:38pm

mothra wrote on May 30th, 2022 at 2:31pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 29th, 2022 at 11:37am:
blaming all men for the terrible behaviour of a few.  No discrimination from that lot - can't pont the finger squarely where the principal problems lie - all men are to blame and anyway Whartey caused it all.  See mothra.


Yet more evidence you don't understand what's said to you.

I have never blamed all men. In fact, i go out of my way to make disclaimers about not all men, and how many of my favourite people are men ... because i know full well how you lot have glass jaws.

And another thing i've said to you a million times .. you're so precious about being associated with the most badly behaved of your demographic you're perpetually jumping at shadows over it. But it is you, not i, that relegated whole demographics to the worst case representatives of their groups. You who cannot even read the word Aboriginal without going on a tirade about crime stats, irrespective of the context And to cap it off, you proudly use the most offensive language you can muster.

As i said, all this has been pointed out to you many, many times. I've no expectation that you will understand your hypocrisy any better having it explained to you again. You're just too bone-headed, belligerent and just plain dumb.



Of course not - just anyone who disagrees with your point of view on anything is your enemy - quite mad....

Abos are not criminally inclined says the Statement ..... they just act that way...... it isn't a 'tirade' to refute a silly statement with listed facts and figures.. I have NEVER advocated blaming and entire group for the wrongs of some in it.... that's your reading in .....

You need to get away from your extremist non-reasoning there..... playing 'withus or agaisnt us' is sure to make more against you than for, capisce?

What has any of your rant to do with a referendum on a Voice in Parliament?

Ten Abo parliamentarians..... 4.4% someone said - 3.3% of the population - I'd say that, along with those more than sympathetic to their ideas, is more than enough.

You could try answering the question about exactly how having a 'voice' separate will change anything... the kind of question that old mate Lefty dodges like a politician asked a straight question about travel rorts ....

Let's see how you two compare.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FYH76kF3UE

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by mothra on May 30th, 2022 at 2:40pm
See/ Too bone-headed and just plain dumb. Went right over the top of your head, didn't it.

Again.

This is precisely why i rarely bother with you, Crappler. You're just ridiculous.

Chess with a pigeon.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 30th, 2022 at 2:46pm
Oh, dear - triggered her into her usual unsubstantiated rant and personal attack as s substitute for genuine discussion...

Wonder if that Christian thing mentions the internet as a way of letting demons into your home?  Might have to ask a Christian if I can find one...

Spoke her name the required number of times and she rose ........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbdrfMVr-to

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by mothra on May 30th, 2022 at 2:48pm
Genuine discussion? You didn't address one point i made.

Not one.

You simply launched into yet another of your poorly educated, ill-thought, and quite frankly frantic raves.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 30th, 2022 at 2:50pm

mothra wrote on May 30th, 2022 at 2:48pm:
Genuine discussion? You didn't address one point i made.

Not one.

You simply launched into yet another of your poorly educated, ill-thought, and quite frankly frantic raves.



You had no point to discuss - just personal jibes..... no obligation to answer.....

Straighten up and fly right....


Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by mothra on May 30th, 2022 at 2:52pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 30th, 2022 at 2:50pm:

mothra wrote on May 30th, 2022 at 2:48pm:
Genuine discussion? You didn't address one point i made.

Not one.

You simply launched into yet another of your poorly educated, ill-thought, and quite frankly frantic raves.



You had no point to discuss - just personal jibes..... no obligation to answer.....

Straighten up and fly right....




Incorrect. I addressed your bringing my name into discussion, again, and absolutely and completely misrepresenting me.

Then i pointed out your hypocrisy ... again.

And again it just sailed right over the top of your head.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 30th, 2022 at 3:23pm
See?  Utter her name three times on a waning moon and your ass is grass....

I knew we could rely on you for some illuminating information on any issue....

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 30th, 2022 at 5:45pm
Lefty's gone along with mothra - the half way house has closed down for the night..... the inmates are in their cells and the night staff are keeping a watch .... no clandestine internet for you lot!

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/3487914f-4c50-41b5-b40f-ea1999bbf8b6

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on May 30th, 2022 at 5:50pm
It's National Wrecking A Silly Nation Week.... I suppose that means Australia Day will draw protests .... :-/

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 4:25am
From NIT, 23 May:

In terms of representation, Indigenous members will account for 9.6% of
the 76 Senate seats, and 1.2% of 151 House of Representatives seats.

That leaves total representation at 4.4%, above the Indigenous Australian
population of 3.3%.

As someone else said, this means aboriginals are actually over-represented
in parliament.  Is it time for white Australians to stand up for their rights in
parliament, in order to end this sort of racism?         White lives matter!

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 11:53am
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  It appears the Racists have come out in force in this thread.  Why are you so afraid of the Australian public having a voice in such a decision?  Are you afraid of being seen as unpopular or something?  The Australian people will be making a decision.  A decision that will determine the future of the Australian polity and it could give Indigenous Australians a voice, a voice which they have been denied by your Racism since the arrival of white colonists.  You lot seem upset that you're being beaten at the democracy game.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, tsk. tsk. tsk...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Gnads on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 11:53am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  It appears the Racists have come out in force in this thread.  Why are you so afraid of the Australian public having a voice in such a decision?  Are you afraid of being seen as unpopular or something?  The Australian people will be making a decision.  A decision that will determine the future of the Australian polity and it could give Indigenous Australians a voice, a voice which they have been denied by your Racism since the arrival of white colonists.  You lot seem upset that you're being beaten at the democracy game.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, tsk. tsk. tsk...   ::) ::)



Bollocks
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Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 5:16pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 11:53am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  It appears the Racists have come out in force in this thread.  Why are you so afraid of the Australian public having a voice in such a decision?  Are you afraid of being seen as unpopular or something?  The Australian people will be making a decision.  A decision that will determine the future of the Australian polity and it could give Indigenous Australians a voice, a voice which they have been denied by your Racism since the arrival of white colonists.  You lot seem upset that you're being beaten at the democracy game.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, tsk. tsk. tsk...   ::) ::)


Bollocks


Why do you deny reality so vehemently?  Are you that afraid of democracy? ::) ::)

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Bobby. on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 5:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 11:53am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  It appears the Racists have come out in force in this thread.  Why are you so afraid of the Australian public having a voice in such a decision?  Are you afraid of being seen as unpopular or something?  The Australian people will be making a decision.  A decision that will determine the future of the Australian polity and it could give Indigenous Australians a voice, a voice which they have been denied by your Racism since the arrival of white colonists.  You lot seem upset that you're being beaten at the democracy game.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, tsk. tsk. tsk...   ::) ::)



It's all code for Abbos getting more handouts.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 7:30pm
They have the same Voice as everyone else and then some, they can vote, stand for election, lobby their member and ministers.... on top of that they have a legion of unthinking supporters who never reason things all the way through - where's the need for a separate but unequal voice?

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by freediver on Jun 5th, 2022 at 12:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Religious leaders support constitutional referendum on Indigenous voice to parliament [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


All Australian citizens, regardless of race, currently have equal representation in parliament. Do you think it is a good idea Brian to abandon this principle and introduce institutionalized racism into our government?

This proposal, if it ever did get to a referendum, would be soundly rejected by the Australian people.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Boris on Jun 5th, 2022 at 12:25pm
All Australians are equal

But some are more equal than others

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Gnads on Jun 5th, 2022 at 12:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 5:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 1:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2022 at 11:53am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  It appears the Racists have come out in force in this thread.  Why are you so afraid of the Australian public having a voice in such a decision?  Are you afraid of being seen as unpopular or something?  The Australian people will be making a decision.  A decision that will determine the future of the Australian polity and it could give Indigenous Australians a voice, a voice which they have been denied by your Racism since the arrival of white colonists.  You lot seem upset that you're being beaten at the democracy game.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, tsk. tsk. tsk...   ::) ::)


Bollocks


Why do you deny reality so vehemently?  Are you that afraid of democracy? ::) ::)


Why do you not understand that they have 9 voices in Parliament now?

Are you proposing a discriminatory quota system?

Wake up to yourself you woke old wanker.

Title: Re: The time is ripe for a referendum
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 5th, 2022 at 8:01pm

freediver wrote on Jun 5th, 2022 at 12:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Religious leaders support constitutional referendum on Indigenous voice to parliament [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


All Australian citizens, regardless of race, currently have equal representation in parliament. Do you think it is a good idea Brian to abandon this principle and introduce institutionalized racism into our government?

This proposal, if it ever did get to a referendum, would be soundly rejected by the Australian people.



Never under-estimate the stupidity and lack of understanding of the Australian voting public - look at some of the clowns on this forum.. look at the types who are repeatedly voted into office and are appointed to office.. .... such high-flying ideas as current equal representation and rights, introducing institutionalised racism, Apartheid and such are drowned out in their tsunami of unthinking hatred of the existing structure and their unfathomable belief that all the aggrieved groups have sh1t that doesn't stink...

Madness - purest madness....

BTW - Demonic Parrot's Tits' government has stolen a march on National Park users by handing Goat Island to some group of unknown Aborigines.... does anyone seriously think the Aboriginal population of Sydney actually were the originals??  Don't make me laugh.... first they claim to have been driven out and exterminated - now they never left.... what about all the ring-ins who decided to move there later?  Are they the same tribal groups?

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