This is interesting -

the 2017 flu epidemic in Australia was worse than Covid:
Number of Covid deaths after 18 months in Australia 1,231.

But in only 12 months:
Number of Influenza deaths in 2017 Australia 1,255.

https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/3303.0~2017~Main%20Features~Deaths%20due%20to%20influenza~5

And.

In 2019,   4,124 people died of flu and pneumonia.
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/causes-death-australia/latest-release?fbclid=IwAR3AMWAJEspm38pxGzsDq60CN8aa_pap88C9zxUPmfzKyomSdAf0TTWCPQI

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 7:24am:

This is interesting - the 2017 flu epidemic in Australia was worse than Covid: Number of Covid deaths after 18 months in Australia 1,231. But in only 12 months: Number of Influenza deaths in 2017 Australia 1,255. https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/3303.0~2017~Main%20Features~Deaths%20due%20to%20influenza~5 And. In 2019,   4,124 people died of flu and pneumonia. https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/causes-death-australia/latest-release?fbclid=IwAR3AMWAJEspm38pxGzsDq60CN8aa_pap88C9zxUPmfzKyomSdAf0TTWCPQI

I've just double checked the total Covid19 death number in Australia:

Total Covid19 deaths in Australia : 1231 <---- since 2019 to date.

So it's quite clear that the death rate is nowhere near as awful.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 7:51am:

Total Covid19 deaths in Australia : 1231

Yes - it is less than the deaths from other years.
Go figure?

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 7:53am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:51am: Total Covid19 deaths in Australia : 1231 Yes - it is less than the deaths from other years. Go figure?

The entire country wasn't forced into extreme lockdown either.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 7:56am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:53am: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:51am: Total Covid19 deaths in Australia : 1231 Yes - it is less than the deaths from other years. Go figure? The entire country wasn't forced into extreme lockdown either.

It almost seems that we have been frightened too much about Covid.
In my opinion Dictator Dan has over reacted to it.
We have been locked down longer than any other place in the entire world.

I feel like I’m losing all my friends due to not seeing them.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:01am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:56am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:53am: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:51am: Total Covid19 deaths in Australia : 1231 Yes - it is less than the deaths from other years. Go figure? The entire country wasn't forced into extreme lockdown either. It almost seems that we have been frightened too much about Covid. In my opinion Dictator Dan has over reacted to it. We have been locked down longer than any other place in the entire world. I feel like I’m losing all my friends due to not seeing them.

I'm still trying to understand HOW the nutter got another term down there as Premier.

He's an abomination to Australia's political system.

Dunno Booby. I have never known nor heard of anyone dying of flu. Not one. Yet I can count 7 people I either knew or have met who have died of Covid just this year.

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:08am:

I'm still trying to understand HOW the nutter got another term down there as Premier. He's an abomination to Australia's political system.

Dan has surrounded himself with yes men and brown nosing sycophants.
No one is there to tap him on the shoulder and say stop.
Even the journalists at his almost daily broadcasts
are hand picked so they don't ask hard questions.
Registered journalist Avi Yemini tried to get into that media circus once
and the cops kept him at least 150 meters away.

Now we have mostly peaceful protestors brutally
beaten by cops with the media egging them on.
Even the so called media is all on Dan's side.

AiA wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:17am:

Dunno Bobby. I have never known nor heard of anyone dying of flu. Not one. Yet I can count 7 people I either knew or have met who have died of Covid just this year.

I have known plenty of people who died in
nursing homes from pneumonia  -
a complication of the common flu.

https://www.activistpost.com/2021/09/despite-horrifying-state-violence-brave-australians-continue-to-resist-covid-police-state.html

Despite Horrifying State Violence, Brave Australians Continue to Resist COVID Police State


September 25, 2021


Multiple videos have surfaced since last weekend showing Australian militarized police in tactical gear, opening fire on unarmed citizens for simply being outside.

   
One of the most disturbing videos captured the scene at the Shrine of Remembrance protest on Tuesday, during which hundreds of militarized police opened fire on completely peaceful protesters who simply wanted their voices to be heard.

I still don't understand all this hate towards Daniel Andrews?

Was he the one responsible for allowing Covid (especially the Delta variant) to arrive in Australia and (predictably) escape?

Even all the hate towards Gladys Berejiklian in NSW isn't really justified although she made things a whole lot worse by not locking down quickly in June which was responsible for the huge outbreaks we're now seeing in NSW and Victoria.

No... the person who is really responsible for this entire Covid mess (and all the deaths resulting from it) is currently on another 'World Tour' which will hopefully be his last before he gets the boot in the upcoming Federal election.

The truth is that a respiratory illness was usually looked upon as a blessing

It used to be referred 2 as

The old man's friend

Despite what some people think
Human beings are not immortal

What would you like to take you out

Some horrible cancer that eats away at your bones for six months
Or a respiratory illness where you die much more peacefully

I know which one I would be choosing

Carl D wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

I still don't understand all this hate towards Daniel Andrews? Was he the one responsible for allowing Covid (especially the Delta variant) to arrive in Australia and (predictably) escape? Even all the hate towards Gladys Berejiklian in NSW isn't really justified although she made things a whole lot worse by not locking down quickly in June which was responsible for the huge outbreaks we're now seeing in NSW and Victoria. No... the person who is really responsible for this entire Covid mess (and all the deaths resulting from it) is currently on another 'World Tour' which will hopefully be his last before he gets the boot in the upcoming Federal election.

Explain why we in Victoria have been locked down
longer than any other place in the entire world?
Do you think it might have something to do with Dan?

aquascoot wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:42am:

What would you like to take you out Some horrible cancer that eats away at your bones for six months Or a respiratory illness where you die much more peacefully I know which one I would be choosing

I believe most normal people would prefer to choose option 3:

Neither.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:42am:

The truth is that a respiratory illness was usually looked upon as a blessing It used to be referred 2 as The old man's friend Despite what some people think Human beings are not immortal What would you like to take you out Some horrible cancer that eats away at your bones for six months Or a respiratory illness where you die much more peacefully I know which one I would be choosing

It's almost as if death is illegal.
We are prepared to destroy the economy
if we can give 80 and 90 year old people an extra few months of life.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:43am:

Explain why we in Victoria have been locked down longer than any other place in the entire world? Do you think it might have something to do with Dan?

I think Dan is actually trying to save peoples' lives.

Mind you, with the antics we've seen from so many ungrateful people with demonstrations, not following lockdown rules, refusing to be vaccinated, etc., etc. I have to wonder sometimes why he's bothering to try and save the lives of idiots like that?

Probably because its his job and yet another case of 'damned if you do and damned if you don't', I suppose?

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:01am:

In my opinion Dictator Dan has over reacted to it. We have been locked down longer than any other place in the entire world. I feel like I’m losing all my friends due to not seeing them.

I'd prefer any leader over react than under react.

ANd you have friends?

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:31am:

AiA wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:17am: Dunno Bobby. I have never known nor heard of anyone dying of flu. Not one. Yet I can count 7 people I either knew or have met who have died of Covid just this year. I have known plenty of people who died in nursing homes from pneumonia  - a complication of the common flu.

That is because you live in the rest home with Monk & cods. Enjoy!

AiA wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:31am: AiA wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:17am: Dunno Bobby. I have never known nor heard of anyone dying of flu. Not one. Yet I can count 7 people I either knew or have met who have died of Covid just this year. I have known plenty of people who died in nursing homes from pneumonia  - a complication of the common flu. That is because you live in the rest home with Monk & cods. Enjoy!

Smart arse -
My dear Aunty died of pneumonia only
2 weeks after being in a rest home.
That was quite a few years ago and I still miss her.

Carl D wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:43am: Explain why we in Victoria have been locked down longer than any other place in the entire world? Do you think it might have something to do with Dan? I think Dan is actually trying to save peoples' lives. Mind you, with the antics we've seen from so many ungrateful people with demonstrations, not following lockdown rules, refusing to be vaccinated, etc., etc. I have to wonder sometimes why he's bothering to try and save the lives of idiots like that? Probably because its his job and yet another case of 'damned if you do and damned if you don't', I suppose?

That doesn't explain why we have been locked down
longer than any other place in the entire world?
What is different about Victoria?

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/086/099/276/original/35492ecdee4eb7cd.jpg

Carl D wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:42am: What would you like to take you out Some horrible cancer that eats away at your bones for six months Or a respiratory illness where you die much more peacefully I know which one I would be choosing I believe most normal people would prefer to choose option 3: Neither.

Enlighten us as to what option three is

Is it immortality
Doubtful

Is it dementia and not even recognising your family
Highly likely

For the elderly people who bounce out of bed
And are continuing to live a charged existence
We should definitely be seeing them as a priority

For the elderly people who do not bounce out of bed
And are living a miserable existence of lingering
We should be asking them about their opinions
And not having politicians used them in some bizarre dick measuring competition amongst the states

Also I would imagine most elderly residents of nursing homes in New South Wales Victoria and the ACT
Have been lying in bed with no visitors for several months

Perhaps we should ask them weather they think that keeping them safe from their families is for their benefit or for the benefits of this statistic read out ad nauseam by self-interested politicians

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 9:04am:

[img]https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/086/099/276/original/35492ecdee4eb7cd.jpg

A retelling of Aesop's Fable - The Wolf and the Dog.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 9:23am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 9:04am: [img]https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/086/099/276/original/35492ecdee4eb7cd.jpg A retelling of Aesop's Fable - The Wolf and the Dog.

We admire the courage of the wolf for choosing harsh freedom, but we'd choose for ourselves the fate of the dog...

After all, the dog gets to live 3 times longer than the wolf.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 9:16am:

Enlighten us as to what option three is

And, as usual, aqua completely missed the point.

Obviously, no-one wants to have cancer.

And, no-one should/would have to die from a respiratory illness (in this case, COVID-19) if the Federal government hadn't been so incompetent and allowed Covid (particularly Delta) to get into Australia and escape despite the numerous warnings they've had since the beginning of this year about how contagious and dangerous Delta is.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 9:02am:

That doesn't explain why we have been locked down longer than any other place in the entire world? What is different about Victoria?

Can't really answer that Bobby except to say that Victoria is the second most populated State after New South Wales and seeing as both of these States have what looks like out of control Covid outbreaks at the moment I strongly suspect population density has a lot to do with it.

Not just here in Australia, but worldwide.

I recall making a post in another thread last year where I said that after the pandemic is over (and keeping the very real possibility of future, possibly worse pandemics in mind) I'm hoping all of these proponents of a 'Big Australia' with a 50 million + population might stop for a minute and have a rethink.

But, I'm almost certain we'll be seeing flying pigs before that happens.

AiA wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:17am:

Dunno Booby. I have never known nor heard of anyone dying of flu. Not one. Yet I can count 7 people I either knew or have met who have died of Covid just this year.

I do know of persons that died with flu.
First one I learnt about 39 years ago (and went to his funeral) was my best friend’s father, age 57. My friend had her first born and I was expecting my first. He was a non drinker/smoker, and worked as an orchardist. Very sad as we are a farming community here and everyone knows everyone.
My husband’s grandfather was age 40 when he died with pneumonia, hubby’s dad was just a baby then and youngest of five. Hard times then.

But speaking of flu, colds etc.
Isn’t it a miracle how restrictions have made them all disappear except not COVID. ::) me thinks that amazing.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:01am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:56am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:53am: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:51am: Total Covid19 deaths in Australia : 1231 Yes - it is less than the deaths from other years. Go figure? The entire country wasn't forced into extreme lockdown either. It almost seems that we have been frightened too much about Covid. In my opinion Dictator Dan has over reacted to it. We have been locked down longer than any other place in the entire world. I feel like I’m losing all my friends due to not seeing them.

They and many other people are in the same boat Bobby, what we are losing is good old fashioned human association without COVID paranoia.

Besides that, many people have lost more than that … their jobs, livelihoods, freedoms, trust.

Sophia wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 11:38am:

But speaking of flu, colds etc. Isn’t it a miracle how restrictions have made them all disappear except not COVID. ::) me thinks that amazing.

Not so amazing when you consider how much more contagious COVID-19 (especially Delta) is compared to the flu.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/11/1026190062/covid-delta-variant-transmission-cdc-chickenpox


Quote:

For example, the flu has an R0 of about two. Each person infected with flu passes the virus on to two people on average. Some people will infect more than two people, and some will infect fewer. But over time, the average will be about two.

Quote:

Chickenpox, on the other hand, is way more contagious, Gangavarapu says. Chickenpox has an R0 of about nine or 10. So each person with chickenpox infects about 10 other people on average. Outbreaks are explosive.

Quote:

For SARS-CoV-2, the R0 has actually risen over the course of the pandemic as the virus evolved. When the coronavirus first emerged in 2019, SARS-CoV-2 was slightly more contagious than flu, Gangavarapu says. "The initial COVID-19 strain had an R0 between two and three."

Quote:

"For the delta variant, the R0 is now calculated at between six and seven," Wenseleers says. So it's two- to three-times as contagious as the original version of SARS-CoV-2 (R0 = 2 to 3) but less contagious than the chickenpox (R0 = 9 to 10).

And, the soon to arrive Lambda and Mu variants (if they're not already here) are said to be even more contagious than Delta.  :o

Sophia wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 11:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:01am: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:56am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:53am: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:51am: Total Covid19 deaths in Australia : 1231 Yes - it is less than the deaths from other years. Go figure? The entire country wasn't forced into extreme lockdown either. It almost seems that we have been frightened too much about Covid. In my opinion Dictator Dan has over reacted to it. We have been locked down longer than any other place in the entire world. I feel like I’m losing all my friends due to not seeing them. They and many other people are in the same boat Bobby, what we are losing is good old fashioned human association without COVID paranoia. Besides that, many people have lost more than that … their jobs, livelihoods, freedoms, trust.

What if we would have had far less lockdowns?
Would we have similar numbers of cases as the flu and pneumonia?


In 2019,   4,124 people died of flu and pneumonia.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/causes-death-australia/latest-release?fbclid=IwAR3AMWAJEspm38pxGzsDq60CN8aa_pap88C9zxUPmfzKyomSdAf0TTWCPQI

Carl D wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 12:06pm:

Sophia wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 11:38am: But speaking of flu, colds etc. Isn’t it a miracle how restrictions have made them all disappear except not COVID. ::) me thinks that amazing. Not so amazing when you consider how much more contagious COVID-19 (especially Delta) is compared to the flu. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/11/1026190062/covid-delta-variant-transmission-cdc-chickenpox Quote: For example, the flu has an R0 of about two. Each person infected with flu passes the virus on to two people on average. Some people will infect more than two people, and some will infect fewer. But over time, the average will be about two. [quote]Chickenpox, on the other hand, is way more contagious, Gangavarapu says. Chickenpox has an R0 of about nine or 10. So each person with chickenpox infects about 10 other people on average. Outbreaks are explosive.

Quote:

For SARS-CoV-2, the R0 has actually risen over the course of the pandemic as the virus evolved. When the coronavirus first emerged in 2019, SARS-CoV-2 was slightly more contagious than flu, Gangavarapu says. "The initial COVID-19 strain had an R0 between two and three."

Quote:

"For the delta variant, the R0 is now calculated at between six and seven," Wenseleers says. So it's two- to three-times as contagious as the original version of SARS-CoV-2 (R0 = 2 to 3) but less contagious than the chickenpox (R0 = 9 to 10).

And, the soon to arrive Lambda and Mu variants (if they're not already here) are said to be even more contagious than Delta.  :o[/quote]

carl,  you really are silly.

check out what happened with the spanish flu in 1918.

samoa was all smug and self satisfied becasue they kept it out.
then it hit them and they had one of the highest death rates on the planet.

you said it yourself.

alpha was twice as contagious as the wild strain.
delta is 5 x as contagious and 2.25 x as deadly.


what the hell are you crazy western suatralians up to.

you cant honestly think you can maintain your virgin status forever.

covid is coming and the marathon will be run.

you will just get to run it when the rest of the world is over it and you have the worst variant.

FFS man, use your brain

Carl D wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:39am:

I still don't understand all this hate towards Daniel Andrews?

they read and stupidly believe murdicks rags

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:01am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:56am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:53am: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:51am: Total Covid19 deaths in Australia : 1231 Yes - it is less than the deaths from other years. Go figure? The entire country wasn't forced into extreme lockdown either. It almost seems that we have been frightened too much about Covid. In my opinion Dictator Dan has over reacted to it. We have been locked down longer than any other place in the entire world. I feel like I’m losing all my friends due to not seeing them.

ohh, goober misses his daily visits to the public toilets ::) ::)

you're a moron. The lock downs aren't about the death rates,although they aren't be be totally ignored, the lock downs are there to stop our health system being over run

if you had even half a brain you would have known that by now....  afterall you've already been told dozens of times over the last year

Quote:

Melbourne construction worker Nathan Chellia was on the phone to contact tracers when he collapsed at home, just one day after being diagnosed with COVID-19. He says people involved in this week's wild protests must stop spreading the virus "I was pretty much unconscious," Mr Chellia said. "The Department of Health had to call an ambulance and take me to hospital." The father of two would go on to spend the next 14 days in intensive care in Melbourne's Northern Hospital, where he could barely eat or drink. His throat was so closed, even simply sipping water would cause him to choke. At one point, Mr Chellia was asked by his doctors to contact his loved ones and make final arrangements in case "something happens". He told them that if he needed to be placed on a ventilator for more than 24 hours, they should let him die. "I had headaches, vomiting, bleeding from my mouth. I was pretty much half-dead," he said. "And I realised then that I had made a silly mistake because I hadn't had a vaccine." Mr Chellia had always intended to get vaccinated but had not felt there was any hurry. Aged in his late 30s, he felt a false sense of security. "I thought, 'COVID's not going to get me, it's going to get older people.'" "I'd never seen any COVID patients … I thought it was just a normal flu." Grateful to have recovered, he is now urging other Australians to get vaccinated and he wants his experience with coronavirus to act as a cautionary tale. In particular, the construction worker says he has been frustrated and disappointed by this week's rallies in Melbourne against mandatory vaccinations for the building industry, which have involved many tradies like him. "Stop the protests – you're spreading the virus everywhere," Mr Chellia said. "If you get sick, it'll knock you down. Just go home and get vaccinated." Mr Chellia worked at the Panorama construction site in Box Hill, which was listed as a tier 1 exposure site not long after his diagnosis and has since been linked to more than 150 positive cases. He believes he contracted the virus after unthinkingly shaking hands with one of his colleagues, who was refusing to wear a mask. "He said, 'I'm a superman — I won't get it,'" Mr Chellia said. "After that, he got the virus, I got the virus, my other colleague got the virus." But Mr Chellia feels particular guilt for passing coronavirus on to his four-year-old twin daughters. Both have since made a full recovery. He said the importance of getting vaccinated was really brought home during his stay in hospital when he saw the quick recovery of three other COVID-positive patients, who had each received at least one vaccine dose. It is a mistake he does not want anyone else to make. "If I'd also had an injection, it wouldn't have got to that stage," Mr Chellia said. "Think of your families. Go and get vaccinated."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-24/melbourne-tradie-with-covid-slams-protesters-urges-vaccination/100489814

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:01am:

I feel like I’m losing all my friends due to not seeing them.

I haven't

We keep in touch - via email, facebook, phone etc

Any 'friend' that would cast me loose over covid - I'd be glad to see the LAST of

They couldn't have been much of a 'friend' - in the FIRST place

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 7:24am:

This is interesting - the 2017 flu epidemic in Australia was worse than Covid: Number of Covid deaths after 18 months in Australia 1,231.

Has it ocurred to you why this might BE !

The figure has been kept this low, by all the precautions you oppose

Hand sanitation
Social distancing
Gatherings limits

Lockdowns

... and then, MASS VACCINATIONS


Without these enforced measures, Australia would be a repeat of everywhere - from the US to India, whose leaders believed it would just "go away" on its own, with no precautions taken - opening the way for HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS OF DEATHS - and a total heath system collapse

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 11:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:01am: I feel like I’m losing all my friends due to not seeing them. I haven't We keep in touch - via email, facebook, phone etc Any 'friend' that would cast me loose over covid - I'd be glad to see the LAST of They couldn't have been much of a 'friend' - in the FIRST place

incorrect.

there is a mountain of data looking at the brains biochemical response to human contact.

contact via technology (email, sms, phone, skype, facebook) does very very little to reduce stress hormones or pormote the release of serotonin and oxytocin ( the feel good bonding chemicals).

ONLY FACE TO FACE CONTACT can raise those chemicals.

skype grandma in the nursing home all you like,

have zoom calls to your friends.

its virtually meaningless.


we have evolved over 10's of 1000s of generations to have close intimate contact.

to suddenly stop that is absolutely catastrophic.

its like thinking a pet rock or a tamagochi is as good a freind as your dog

Nobody is arguing that it's hard not being able to be in the same room as your friends, but if your friendship can't survive the Pandemic, you'd misjudged the strength of the friendship, or at least how much you meant to the other party vs how much they mean to you.

Blame the pandemic all you like, but it won't change that imbalance.

I've been apart from so many of my friends for so long, but we were all able to meet up last weekend for a house party.  We're all vaccinated and live in Queensland so we're so incredibly lucky to have been able to do it.

It was great seeing everyone again, seeing how much the kids have grown and watching them play etc.

Nobody is doubting for a second that this sort of contact isn't important.

But again some posters are sliding back into throwing shade on the mitigation efforts and will likely pretend they've never done that in a future post sometime soon.

These are tough times for many generations, but we'll all get through this because those before us got through worse.

For those who do feel like you're losing your friends, even if your not, but you feel like it, reach out to them.  They likely feel the same way.

And if you don't feel like showing that you're not an alpha and you're begging for friendship (some of the posters here display this warped kind of thinking), use the expansion in our mental health services, even with telehealth and speak to a professional.

Scoot, if you're in this category, I've no advice for you because you just want to suffer in silence, only not in silence and simply blaming everyone else around you.  Good luck.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:45am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:42am: The truth is that a respiratory illness was usually looked upon as a blessing It used to be referred 2 as The old man's friend Despite what some people think Human beings are not immortal What would you like to take you out Some horrible cancer that eats away at your bones for six months Or a respiratory illness where you die much more peacefully I know which one I would be choosing It's almost as if death is illegal. We are prepared to destroy the economy if we can give 80 and 90 year old people an extra few months of life.

LOL, yes it sort of conflicts with "Voluntary euthanasia" doesn't it? You have that law down there now don't you?

It's getting so we don't know whether we should die, or shouldn't die. We'll just leave it up to the politicians

John Smith wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 5:59pm:

The lock downs aren't about the death rates,although they aren't be be totally ignored, the lock downs are there to stop our health system being over run if you had even half a brain you would have known that by now....  afterall you've already been told dozens of times over the last year

So Covid is only about the Health system, it could be over-run? .... Funny stuff, wake up Smith

Morrison said: "This is a hundred year virus" ... and by saying that, he was recognizing that the Spanish Flu outbreak needed far more medical requirements than were available at the time to deal with it

So if virus's are a hundred year event, why wasn't there massive preparations well before Covid hit Australia?

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 2:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 5:59pm: The lock downs aren't about the death rates,although they aren't be be totally ignored, the lock downs are there to stop our health system being over run if you had even half a brain you would have known that by now....  afterall you've already been told dozens of times over the last year So Covid is only about the Health system, it could be over-run? .... Funny stuff, wake up Smith Morrison said: "This is a hundred year virus" ... and by saying that, he was recognizing that the Spanish Flu outbreak needed far more medical requirements than were available at the time to deal with it So if virus's are a hundred year event, why wasn't there massive preparations well before Covid hit Australia?

One contributing factor is Morrison booby-trapped the economy thinking he'd lose the last election by taking billions out of health and putting it into the military.

That way he and the media could attack Labor for either not supporting our troops by defunding the military increases and diverting it back to health, or spending like drunken sailors by restoring the funds to the health system without taking it back from the military.

Luckily for Morrison, the media are in general on his side and wouldn't have reported on it and COVID hit so a blown budget isn't a problem.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 12:39pm:

Nobody is arguing that it's hard not being able to be in the same room as your friends, but if your friendship can't survive the Pandemic, you'd misjudged the strength of the friendship, or at least how much you meant to the other party vs how much they mean to you. Blame the pandemic all you like, but it won't change that imbalance. I've been apart from so many of my friends for so long, but we were all able to meet up last weekend for a house party.  We're all vaccinated and live in Queensland so we're so incredibly lucky to have been able to do it. It was great seeing everyone again, seeing how much the kids have grown and watching them play etc. Nobody is doubting for a second that this sort of contact isn't important. But again some posters are sliding back into throwing shade on the mitigation efforts and will likely pretend they've never done that in a future post sometime soon. These are tough times for many generations, but we'll all get through this because those before us got through worse. For those who do feel like you're losing your friends, even if your not, but you feel like it, reach out to them.  They likely feel the same way. And if you don't feel like showing that you're not an alpha and you're begging for friendship (some of the posters here display this warped kind of thinking), use the expansion in our mental health services, even with telehealth and speak to a professional. Scoot, if you're in this category, I've no advice for you because you just want to suffer in silence, only not in silence and simply blaming everyone else around you.  Good luck.

unfortunately  i didnt really understand any of that.

my point is that face to face human interaction is vital for mental health.

zoom calls and skyping is no susbstitute, studies confimr this.

play is vital for childrens emotional well being.
especially play with other children.

all over the world schools have been shut down so the elderly can be made priority number one.

this is wrong.

children who do not play will develop anxiety, seperation anxiety, school refusal.

this is not acceptable.

only one place on earth NEVER closed a primary school...sweden.

the damage that has been done will probably never be fixed.

catastrophic behaviour by the ideologically possessed

Hi Aqua,
people need to get out of bed every morning with a mission -
ready to take on the day -
unworried by Covid numbers -
which when putting them into perspective have caused far
fewer deaths than flu and pneumonia than in previous years -
otherwise they will live lives of pure garbage.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2021 at 8:28am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:08am: I'm still trying to understand HOW the nutter got another term down there as Premier. He's an abomination to Australia's political system. Dan has surrounded himself with yes men and brown nosing sycophants.

... and here was I - all this time - thinking the Andrews Government had won an election, in a LANDSLIDE

... and based on recent polling - is destined to repeat it - in the NEXT election

The majority of Victorians back him - so it matters not what the remainder of Australians think

Thet're not the ones VOTING

Most people couldn't tell you the NAME of the Liberal Opposition Leader, this week
So impressive is their track record



The mediocrity of Victoria's only one term government, of Lord Baillieu - is still fresh in many minds, over shutting down our revewable energy sector - and handing over our state and national parks to wealthy beef baron mates, gratis

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:28am: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:08am: I'm still trying to understand HOW the nutter got another term down there as Premier. He's an abomination to Australia's political system. Dan has surrounded himself with yes men and brown nosing sycophants. ... and here was I - all this time - thinking the Andrews Government had won an election, in a LANDSLIDE ... and based on recent polling - is destined to repeat it - in the NEXT election The majority of Victorians back him - so it matters not what the remainder of Australians think They're not the ones VOTING Most people couldn't tell you the NAME of the Liberal Opposition Leader, this week So impressive is their track record The mediocrity of Victoria's only one term government, of Lord Baillieu- is still fresh in many minds, over shutting down our revewable energy sector - and handing over our state and national parks to wealthy beef barons, gratis

When does the Victorian parliament sit?
or is Dan ruling without any checks and balances?

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 3:02pm:

Hi Aqua, people need to get out of bed every morning with a mission - ready to take on the day - unworried by Covid numbers - which when putting them into perspective have caused far fewer deaths than flu and pneumonia than in previous years - otherwise they will live lives of pure garbage.

bobby,

you have been locked down  more then any city on the planet.


think about that.

can you name other places that have higher densities of population?

i can think of about 10,000.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 2:43pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 12:39pm: Nobody is arguing that it's hard not being able to be in the same room as your friends, but if your friendship can't survive the Pandemic, you'd misjudged the strength of the friendship, or at least how much you meant to the other party vs how much they mean to you. Blame the pandemic all you like, but it won't change that imbalance. I've been apart from so many of my friends for so long, but we were all able to meet up last weekend for a house party.  We're all vaccinated and live in Queensland so we're so incredibly lucky to have been able to do it. It was great seeing everyone again, seeing how much the kids have grown and watching them play etc. Nobody is doubting for a second that this sort of contact isn't important. But again some posters are sliding back into throwing shade on the mitigation efforts and will likely pretend they've never done that in a future post sometime soon. These are tough times for many generations, but we'll all get through this because those before us got through worse. For those who do feel like you're losing your friends, even if your not, but you feel like it, reach out to them.  They likely feel the same way. And if you don't feel like showing that you're not an alpha and you're begging for friendship (some of the posters here display this warped kind of thinking), use the expansion in our mental health services, even with telehealth and speak to a professional. Scoot, if you're in this category, I've no advice for you because you just want to suffer in silence, only not in silence and simply blaming everyone else around you.  Good luck. unfortunately  i didnt really understand any of that.

That's ok, we know you're a dumb poo already.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 3:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 3:02pm: Hi Aqua, people need to get out of bed every morning with a mission - ready to take on the day - unworried by Covid numbers - which when putting them into perspective have caused far fewer deaths than flu and pneumonia than in previous years - otherwise they will live lives of pure garbage. bobby, you have been locked down  more then any city on the planet. think about that. can you name other places that have higher densities of population? i can think of about 10,000.

We are still locked own under Dan.
I'm double vaxxed - why should I be under house arrest?

When does the Victorian parliament sit?
or is Dan ruling without any checks and balances?

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 2:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 5:59pm: The lock downs aren't about the death rates,although they aren't be be totally ignored, the lock downs are there to stop our health system being over run if you had even half a brain you would have known that by now....  afterall you've already been told dozens of times over the last year So Covid is only about the Health system, it could be over-run? .... Funny stuff, wake up Smith Morrison said: "This is a hundred year virus" ... and by saying that, he was recognizing that the Spanish Flu outbreak needed far more medical requirements than were available at the time to deal with it So if virus's are a hundred year event, why wasn't there massive preparations well before Covid hit Australia?

because the libs are morons. There have been warnings something like this was likely to happen for decades.... instead of preparing for it, the libs  decided it would be better to cut spending on preventative measures

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-deadly-coronavirus-was-inevitable-why-was-no-one-ready-for-covid-11597325213

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 3:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 2:43pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 12:39pm: Nobody is arguing that it's hard not being able to be in the same room as your friends, but if your friendship can't survive the Pandemic, you'd misjudged the strength of the friendship, or at least how much you meant to the other party vs how much they mean to you. Blame the pandemic all you like, but it won't change that imbalance. I've been apart from so many of my friends for so long, but we were all able to meet up last weekend for a house party.  We're all vaccinated and live in Queensland so we're so incredibly lucky to have been able to do it. It was great seeing everyone again, seeing how much the kids have grown and watching them play etc. Nobody is doubting for a second that this sort of contact isn't important. But again some posters are sliding back into throwing shade on the mitigation efforts and will likely pretend they've never done that in a future post sometime soon. These are tough times for many generations, but we'll all get through this because those before us got through worse. For those who do feel like you're losing your friends, even if your not, but you feel like it, reach out to them.  They likely feel the same way. And if you don't feel like showing that you're not an alpha and you're begging for friendship (some of the posters here display this warped kind of thinking), use the expansion in our mental health services, even with telehealth and speak to a professional. Scoot, if you're in this category, I've no advice for you because you just want to suffer in silence, only not in silence and simply blaming everyone else around you.  Good luck. unfortunately  i didnt really understand any of that. That's ok, we know you're a dumb poo already.

incorrect.

i just look at things in a different light to the bed wetting selfish old farts.

i care more about my offspring then i care about myself.

thats always been the normal mode of being.

i dont know when the entitled soft old farts reversed the natural order.

disgraceful

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 5:12pm:

incorrect.

no, he was spot on

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 5:12pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 3:23pm: aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 2:43pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 12:39pm: Nobody is arguing that it's hard not being able to be in the same room as your friends, but if your friendship can't survive the Pandemic, you'd misjudged the strength of the friendship, or at least how much you meant to the other party vs how much they mean to you. Blame the pandemic all you like, but it won't change that imbalance. I've been apart from so many of my friends for so long, but we were all able to meet up last weekend for a house party.  We're all vaccinated and live in Queensland so we're so incredibly lucky to have been able to do it. It was great seeing everyone again, seeing how much the kids have grown and watching them play etc. Nobody is doubting for a second that this sort of contact isn't important. But again some posters are sliding back into throwing shade on the mitigation efforts and will likely pretend they've never done that in a future post sometime soon. These are tough times for many generations, but we'll all get through this because those before us got through worse. For those who do feel like you're losing your friends, even if your not, but you feel like it, reach out to them.  They likely feel the same way. And if you don't feel like showing that you're not an alpha and you're begging for friendship (some of the posters here display this warped kind of thinking), use the expansion in our mental health services, even with telehealth and speak to a professional. Scoot, if you're in this category, I've no advice for you because you just want to suffer in silence, only not in silence and simply blaming everyone else around you.  Good luck. unfortunately  i didnt really understand any of that. That's ok, we know you're a dumb poo already. incorrect. i just look at things in a different light to the bed wetting selfish old farts. i care more about my offspring then i care about myself. thats always been the normal mode of being. i dont know when the entitled soft old farts reversed the natural order. disgraceful

I was referring to your comprehension skills.

And again you need to misrepresent what has been put to you in order to pigeon hole it into you might is right alpha rhetoric.

Disgraceful indeed.

The worst part is, and while I can only speak for myself, most if not all people are putting into practice what you only pay some lip services to when you're not advocating for the opposite and pushing for more death.

But I wouldn't expect someone of your limited intellect to understand what I'm talking about.

Here's a ball, why don't you go play in the corner and leave the grown ups to talk in piece.

That's a good boy.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 5:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 5:12pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 3:23pm: aquascoot wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 2:43pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 12:39pm: Nobody is arguing that it's hard not being able to be in the same room as your friends, but if your friendship can't survive the Pandemic, you'd misjudged the strength of the friendship, or at least how much you meant to the other party vs how much they mean to you. Blame the pandemic all you like, but it won't change that imbalance. I've been apart from so many of my friends for so long, but we were all able to meet up last weekend for a house party.  We're all vaccinated and live in Queensland so we're so incredibly lucky to have been able to do it. It was great seeing everyone again, seeing how much the kids have grown and watching them play etc. Nobody is doubting for a second that this sort of contact isn't important. But again some posters are sliding back into throwing shade on the mitigation efforts and will likely pretend they've never done that in a future post sometime soon. These are tough times for many generations, but we'll all get through this because those before us got through worse. For those who do feel like you're losing your friends, even if your not, but you feel like it, reach out to them.  They likely feel the same way. And if you don't feel like showing that you're not an alpha and you're begging for friendship (some of the posters here display this warped kind of thinking), use the expansion in our mental health services, even with telehealth and speak to a professional. Scoot, if you're in this category, I've no advice for you because you just want to suffer in silence, only not in silence and simply blaming everyone else around you.  Good luck. unfortunately  i didnt really understand any of that. That's ok, we know you're a dumb poo already. incorrect. i just look at things in a different light to the bed wetting selfish old farts. i care more about my offspring then i care about myself. thats always been the normal mode of being. i dont know when the entitled soft old farts reversed the natural order. disgraceful I was referring to your comprehension skills. And again you need to misrepresent what has been put to you in order to pigeon hole it into you might is right alpha rhetoric. Disgraceful indeed. The worst part is, and while I can only speak for myself, most if not all people are putting into practice what you only pay some lip services to when you're not advocating for the opposite and pushing for more death. But I wouldn't expect someone of your limited intellect to understand what I'm talking about. Here's a ball, why don't you go play in the corner and leave the grown ups to talk in piece. That's a good boy.

We must balance the "pushing for more deaths "  v  the "pushing for more normality"


you cant have both.

some older sicker australians will need to be put at risk so that younger australians can have a life.

there's no way around this.

your world revolves around the elderly and the arguement "you cant put a price on a human life"

my world revolves around ensuring my kids and grandkids have as awesome a life as i had.

if i have to be exposed to covid , so my grandkids can have freedom to play sport, go to a grand final, travel interstate to see relatives, i am perfectly fine with that.

you are not

there in lies the difference.

you wont sway my opinion.

young australians ARE more important then old australians

period.

full stop.

you are entitled to your opinion and i am entitled to mine.

can you comprehend that wthout turned nasty , captain kangaroo  ::) ::) ::)

This was a health crisis about a year ago.

Since then, and into the future, it is a political crisis.  It is about how to manage Chines Flu POLITICALLY. Most of the information ANYONE is getting about Chinese Flu  is from politicians and journalists in press galleries, attacking China or covering up for it. Politicians are slagging each other off across continents, for China, against China.

The science is smothered and covered up by international politics, local, parochial politics, politics between old people and young people, developed and shithole countries, etc, etc.

Just for you, aqua.

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-west-australians-wont-accept-covid-deaths-for-reopening-survey-finds-ng-b882019542z

Subscriber only article but the headline tells the story. I read it in the paper today.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 6:17pm:

We must balance the "pushing for more deaths "  v  the "pushing for more normality" you cant have both. some older sicker australians will need to be put at risk so that younger australians can have a life. there's no way around this. your world revolves around the elderly and the arguement "you cant put a price on a human life" my world revolves around ensuring my kids and grandkids have as awesome a life as i had. if i have to be exposed to covid , so my grandkids can have freedom to play sport, go to a grand final, travel interstate to see relatives, i am perfectly fine with that. you are not there in lies the difference. you wont sway my opinion. young australians ARE more important then old australians period. full stop. you are entitled to your opinion and i am entitled to mine. can you comprehend that wthout turned nasty , captain kangaroo  ::) ::) ::)

I'm not trying to change your opinion, I'm glad that you're being up front about it.

Our opinions don't differ that much despite your characterisation. Where they do differ is the timing and one important point I'll list later.

You were poo pooing the mitigation efforts from the start because they were working and our deaths were low, as if they were a waste of time.

Let that sink in. For your no nonsense, straight talking persona, you took the position that since everything was working and our deaths weren't at the level of the US, it was all an overreaction.

That's not straight talking, that's manipulating reality to push an agenda.

All to justify your line that we had to reopen because you weren't scared of the virus.

Oh but now it's for the young...

We've seen your motivation first hand and now you're changing the goalposts, again.

That said, in an effort to reach across then aisle, we do agree that we can't put the world on hold for the old and the sick forever.

We have access to vaccines and once all those who want them have had the opportunity to get them, we can start to end the notion of lockdowns and get things as close to normal as quickly as possible.

Where we differ is that you wanted to open even before we had a vaccine and not for the young but because you were big and strong and not hiding under the bedsheets.

John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 4:49pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 2:27pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 5:59pm: The lock downs aren't about the death rates,although they aren't be be totally ignored, the lock downs are there to stop our health system being over run if you had even half a brain you would have known that by now....  afterall you've already been told dozens of times over the last year So Covid is only about the Health system, it could be over-run? .... Funny stuff, wake up Smith Morrison said: "This is a hundred year virus" ... and by saying that, he was recognizing that the Spanish Flu outbreak needed far more medical requirements than were available at the time to deal with it So if virus's are a hundred year event, why wasn't there massive preparations well before Covid hit Australia? because the libs are morons. There have been warnings something like this was likely to happen for decades.... instead of preparing for it, the libs  decided it would be better to cut spending on preventative measures https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-deadly-coronavirus-was-inevitable-why-was-no-one-ready-for-covid-11597325213

The Government should be permanently pre-prepared for any pandemic that comes along, whatever party is in power, it's not a political thing, it's to deal with something that affects human tissue and organs. Politics alone won't kill viruses, but being fully re-prepared could and probably would drastically shorten the life of a virus affecting a population

Our governments weren't prepared at all, so they beat us down with a stick instead. When, from what we know now, the governments deserve a whipping from us 

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 8:52pm:

The Government should be permanently pre-prepared for any pandemic that comes along, whatever party is in power, it's not a political thing, it's to deal with something that affects human tissue and organs. Politics alone won't kill viruses, but being fully re-prepared could and probably would drastically shorten the life of a virus affecting a population Our governments weren't prepared at all, so they beat us down with a stick instead. When, from what we know now, the governments deserve a whipping from us

I agree they should be .... but it was scomo who pulled millions out of health, reduced our stockpiles of emergency supplies etc .. all to save a few bucks. divert the money to one of his mates

It seems here that we are the victims of our success.

A low number of people died because of the swift action taken. On equal terms as the previous Flu's - no lock down no distancing and no masks many tens of thousands possibly even hundreds of thousands would have died.

We have been remarkably successful in preventing the outcome some other countries have experienced.

Carl D wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 8:18pm:

Just for you, aqua. https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-west-australians-wont-accept-covid-deaths-for-reopening-survey-finds-ng-b882019542z Subscriber only article but the headline tells the story. I read it in the paper today.

WA wont accept any deaths  ::) ::)

thats one of the most insane headlines ive ever read.



comparable with

The Cairns Daily......cairns people refuse to accept any more cyclones


or  The Christchurch Herald.....christchurch refuses to accept any more earthquakes.



heres a thought.

why doesnt WA enact legislation banning the delta variant from going to WA.

threaten the delta particles that they will be heavily fined if they appear.

have a referendum if you like



Do you support WA legislating that it is illegal for delta to enter WA?

yes or no.


i'm sure you and gweg and rhino will vote yes and then you can go to bed feeling all smug and safe and self satisfied  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7b55e18637f5dd945504203987061147ad682cf21c99305d89f3b4d082c517b4.gif

aquascoot wrote on Sep 29^th, 2021 at 5:30am:

WA wont accept any deaths  ::) ::) thats one of the most insane headlines ive ever read. comparable with The Cairns Daily......cairns people refuse to accept any more cyclones or  The Christchurch Herald.....christchurch refuses to accept any more earthquakes. heres a thought. why doesnt WA enact legislation banning the delta variant from going to WA. threaten the delta particles that they will be heavily fined if they appear. have a referendum if you like Do you support WA legislating that it is illegal for delta to enter WA? yes or no. i'm sure you and gweg and rhino will vote yes and then you can go to bed feeling all smug and safe and self satisfied  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Here's a thought, aqua.

Perhaps its the majority of the people of WA, not the pollies, who won't accept Covid deaths as a result of reopening?

Anyway, since it was probably difficult for you to deduce that from the headline only here's the actual article from yesterday's West Australian.

Enjoy!  :)

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aquascoot wrote on Sep 29^th, 2021 at 5:30am:

Carl D wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 8:18pm: Just for you, aqua. https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-west-australians-wont-accept-covid-deaths-for-reopening-survey-finds-ng-b882019542z Subscriber only article but the headline tells the story. I read it in the paper today. WA wont accept any deaths  ::) ::) thats one of the most insane headlines ive ever read. comparable with The Cairns Daily......cairns people refuse to accept any more cyclones or  The Christchurch Herald.....christchurch refuses to accept any more earthquakes. heres a thought. why doesnt WA enact legislation banning the delta variant from going to WA. threaten the delta particles that they will be heavily fined if they appear. have a referendum if you like Do you support WA legislating that it is illegal for delta to enter WA? yes or no. i'm sure you and gweg and rhino will vote yes and then you can go to bed feeling all smug and safe and self satisfied  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You're always so dramatic Scoot...

Does your husband know you go off like this online?

Carl D wrote on Sep 29^th, 2021 at 8:02am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 29th, 2021 at 5:30am: WA wont accept any deaths  ::) ::) thats one of the most insane headlines ive ever read. comparable with The Cairns Daily......cairns people refuse to accept any more cyclones or  The Christchurch Herald.....christchurch refuses to accept any more earthquakes. heres a thought. why doesnt WA enact legislation banning the delta variant from going to WA. threaten the delta particles that they will be heavily fined if they appear. have a referendum if you like Do you support WA legislating that it is illegal for delta to enter WA? yes or no. i'm sure you and gweg and rhino will vote yes and then you can go to bed feeling all smug and safe and self satisfied  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Here's a thought, aqua. Perhaps its the majority of the people of WA, not the pollies, who won't accept Covid deaths as a result of reopening? Anyway, since it was probably difficult for you to deduce that from the headline only here's the actual article from yesterday's West Australian. Enjoy!  :)

Understood Carl

Tomorrow's headline should read

Western Australia demand 0 road deaths

Introduces new 10 km per hour speed limit ;D ;D ;D

What our headlines should read:

Something needs to be done about idiots like these.

Followed up by:

And, something should be done about this, as well.

Before we end up like New South Wales and Victoria.

Carl D wrote on Sep 29^th, 2021 at 11:21am:

What our headlines should read: Something needs to be done about idiots like these. Followed up by: And, something should be done about this, as well. Before we end up like New South Wales and Victoria.

Yep.

But we all knew it was going to happen.

It was inevatable inevitable that the AFL Grand Final would introduce Delta to WA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v0rKdlbDyU

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29^th, 2021 at 11:28am:

But we all knew it was going to happen. It was inevatable inevitable that the AFL Grand Final would introduce Delta to WA.

As long as Gillon McLachlan and the AFL have their estimated 40 million dollars its all good... doesn't matter if we have a major Covid outbreak here as a result.

From today's West Australian:


Quote:

"I think everyone has come away very happy here"

Let's see how happy everyone is if we have a Covid outbreak very soon. Not that the AFL will care of course now that they have their money.

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I'm also betting Annastacia Palaszczuk is in panic mode right now with Queensland Covid cases appearing in the past 2 days and they have the NRL Grand Final there this weekend.

All she's done so far is introduce restrictions. But, no lockdown... even though she said a while back that she would have a lockdown for just one Covid case.

Funny about that. ::)

Carl D wrote on Sep 29^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

I'm also betting Annastacia Palaszczuk is in panic mode right now with Queensland Covid cases appearing in the past 2 days and they have the NRL Grand Final there this weekend. All she's done so far is introduce restrictions. But, no lockdown... even though she said a while back that she would have a lockdown for just one Covid case. Funny about that. ::)

She thought Queensland was immune from the Kung Flu.

Man in western Australia chokes on sandwich

The premier responds

You can't put a price on a human life
I am there for banning sale of all solid food in the state of western Australia
People will be fine just drinking shakes

It is my job as the premier to keep my constituents safe ;D ;D

Bobby. wrote on Sep 29^th, 2021 at 12:30pm:

Carl D wrote on Sep 29th, 2021 at 12:25pm: I'm also betting Annastacia Palaszczuk is in panic mode right now with Queensland Covid cases appearing in the past 2 days and they have the NRL Grand Final there this weekend. All she's done so far is introduce restrictions. But, no lockdown... even though she said a while back that she would have a lockdown for just one Covid case. Funny about that. ::) She thought Queensland was immune from the Kung Flu.

No matter how much border lock/restrictions are imposed, there’s a greater force working against us all.

We have such knowledgeable leaders in our Victorian state … we really do.
How safe and refreshing it is for all us peons in Victoria.

https://i.imgur.com/SNPiKoy.jpg