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Message started by Gordon on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:06am

Title: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gordon on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:06am
When he heard about it, did he schit a brika?

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-25/peter-dutton-adbul-nacer-benbrika-citizenship-terrorism/12920290?nw=0

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gordon on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:07am
We should also flick his entire family and every one of his close contacts.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by cods on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:23am
a blessed relief thats for sure.....now it will spend years going through the court system.....I trust they keep him in jail while that goes on...

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Yadda on Nov 26th, 2020 at 8:18am

Gordon wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:06am:

When he heard about it, did he schit a brika?

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-25/peter-dutton-adbul-nacer-benbrika-citizenship-terrorism/12920290?nw=0



Good on Peter Dutton.


But 'our' governments [state and federal] ?

What a shameful, shameful, group of self-serving corrupt villains and dogs.



Good on Peter Dutton, but...

Not nearly enough.
Not nearly enough.
Not nearly enough.
Not nearly enough.
Not nearly enough.
Not nearly enough.

100 x times, not nearly enough.




'Too little, much, much too late.'



"Mos Eisley spaceport: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
Obi-Wan - Star Wars



.



Not nearly enough.

'Australian preacher Wisam Hadad, a central figure in the radical Salafi and jihadi community in Australia....'

Is 'wishing' for the death of non-moslems who 'offend' ISLAM.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1605652372/0#0

Quote:


"Allah will punish them by your hands"

- Koran 9.14

By who's hands ? !!


Muslim preacher says, "put to the sword" the enemies of Allah.

And this guy is a 'Muslim preacher',    .....who is LIVING IN AUSTRALIA, in 2020 !!!




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Not nearly enough.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1504079978/14#14

Quote:

'Teacher quits after     primary school     students threaten to behead her'

QUESTION;
Where do moslem children living in Australia get these ideas from ?




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Not nearly enough.

In the YOUTUBE video [below] you will witness, good 'Aussie' moslems,
living in Australia,
behind closed doors,
teaching their children how to practice ISLAM.....



Quote:

"You're never too young to be a homicidal maniac for Allah!"

- 'Aussie' moslem child, being taught 'how to practice ISLAM', in Australia.


------------- >


Muslims brainwash children in Australia
03 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E



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This is the solution which i favour, and i outline the reasons why i do.....

QUARANTINE WORKS!!

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34


and....
The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0



Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2020 at 8:23am
He's lucky this isn't the Wild West as
he would have been hanged years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdbKHZdGcE

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Captain Caveman on Nov 26th, 2020 at 8:32am
The air force should fly him home and kick him out the door at 40k feet with an umbrella for a chute.
Muslim scum.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2020 at 8:43am
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-25/terrorist-prisoner-abdul-nacer-benbrika-citizenship-cancelled/12919698



But Mr Dutton said the Government was doing what it thought was "appropriate" to protect Australians from the danger posed by Benbrika.

"In this instance, he spoke about thousands and thousands of Australians being killed, that's what he advocated for at the time," he said.

    "It doesn't matter who it is; if it's a person who's posing a significant terrorist threat to our country, then we'll do whatever is possible within Australian law to protect Australians.



Abdul Nacer Benbrika was jailed in 2008 for leading a terror cell.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by issuevoter on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:29am
That's not fair. He should appeal to the United Nations. He's having his Human Rights denied. This wouldn't happen under a Labor/Green government. Bloody fascist Liberals!

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Yadda on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:57am

issuevoter wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:29am:

That's not fair.



There is no justice in the world.

There is so little justice in the world today.

Why so ?

Because so many men hate truth.

Because so many men are appeasers of evil, wicked people.

Because so many men are appeasers of murderers and wanna-be-murderers.

Shameful.


.



Proverbs 12:17
He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness...


Amos 5:10
They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.


Amos 5:14
Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken.
15  Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.





Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by polite_gandalf on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am
good show.

Thats sure to stop the terrorists.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gordon on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:21am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

Thats sure to stop the terrorists.


True, bit like closing the stable after the horse has bolted.
Better to not let Muslims come in the first place.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:27am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

That's sure to stop the terrorists.


Well, apart form the home-grown, rightwing, white supremacist terrorists who are responsible for more attacks than any other group.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

That's sure to stop the terrorists.


Well, apart form the home-grown, rightwing, white supremacist terrorists who are responsible for more attacks than any other group.

Can you show the statistics  in Australia for white supremacist terror attacks as opposed to those in the name of Islam? Thanks.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:02pm

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

That's sure to stop the terrorists.


Well, apart form the home-grown, rightwing, white supremacist terrorists who are responsible for more attacks than any other group.

Can you show the statistics  in Australia for white supremacist terror attacks as opposed to those in the name of Islam? Thanks.


Yes.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:02pm
Regardless of the Gandalf and Pecca apologism bullsh1t circus, I have serious issues with the revocation of citizenship under any circumstances. As Gordon says, just adjust the immigration program to a zero Muslim intake, make them a tiny minority in the future and forced to assimilate.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:02pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

That's sure to stop the terrorists.


Well, apart form the home-grown, rightwing, white supremacist terrorists who are responsible for more attacks than any other group.

Can you show the statistics  in Australia for white supremacist terror attacks as opposed to those in the name of Islam? Thanks.


Yes.
Got nothing again? Thought so. Groundhog day for you every day isnt it? Make a spurious claim, fail to show any evidence. Rinse and repeat.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:11pm

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:02pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

That's sure to stop the terrorists.


Well, apart form the home-grown, rightwing, white supremacist terrorists who are responsible for more attacks than any other group.

Can you show the statistics  in Australia for white supremacist terror attacks as opposed to those in the name of Islam? Thanks.


Yes.
Got nothing again? Thought so. Groundhog day for you every day isnt it? Make a spurious claim, fail to show any evidence. Rinse and repeat.


Islamic terrorism is relatively rare in this country (as well as the UK, Europe, the USA, Canada, New Zealand, etc.) compared to other forms such as rightwing and white supremacist terrorist activity.

Jack van Tongeren, for example, was responsible for well over 20 terrorist attacks here in Perth alone.

There haven't even been 20 Islamic attacks in the entire country.

Islamic terrorism is disgusting, as is every other form of terrorism, and I condemn the perpetrators unconditionally no matter their religion, colour, or political persuasion.

Strange though that so many people on this forum are apologists for rightwing terrorists.

They never condemn them - ever.

I wonder why that is   :-/

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:38pm
Greggy


Dutton,

Quote:
"In this instance, he spoke about thousands and thousands of Australians being killed,
that's what he advocated for at the time," he said.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-25/terrorist-prisoner-abdul-nacer-benbrika-citizenship-cancelled/12919698

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Captain Caveman on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:11pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:02pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

That's sure to stop the terrorists.


Well, apart form the home-grown, rightwing, white supremacist terrorists who are responsible for more attacks than any other group.

Can you show the statistics  in Australia for white supremacist terror attacks as opposed to those in the name of Islam? Thanks.


Yes.
Got nothing again? Thought so. Groundhog day for you every day isnt it? Make a spurious claim, fail to show any evidence. Rinse and repeat.


Islamic terrorism is relatively rare in this country (as well as the UK, Europe, the USA, Canada, New Zealand, etc.) compared to other forms such as rightwing and white supremacist terrorist activity.

Jack van Tongeren, for example, was responsible for well over 20 terrorist attacks here in Perth alone.

There haven't even been 20 Islamic attacks in the entire country.

Islamic terrorism is disgusting, as is every other form of terrorism, and I condemn the perpetrators unconditionally no matter their religion, colour, or political persuasion.

Strange though that so many people on this forum are apologists for rightwing terrorists.

They never condemn them - ever.

I wonder why that is   :-/




Got anything from this century?  ;D

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Yadda on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:46pm


There is no benefit [to ourselves] in arguing [debating] on contentious issues, with people [who you know], are liars and covenant breakers.

They will tell you any lie, while they will protest how trustworthy and faithful they are.


All moslems.

Almost all politicians.

All John Smiths.

All greggery's.

All karnal's.

All brian's.

All long w/e's.

All barnacle's.

All buzzddidj's.

All mothra's.



I guess many of them would justify their open, public deceit towards others, as the legitimate condition of fighting [being in conflict with] an enemy.


.


Yadda said....

Quote:

The two most important characteristics which define the personality of an individual [imo];
1/ are we honest ?
2/ are we reliable ?                    ....[e.g. if we give someone an undertaking to do something, or to behave in a certain way, will we keep to the [verbal] agreement that we have made ?]

More than that, is superfluous, imo.





Putting your trust in a faithless [infidel-ity] liar is no worse than putting your trust in a treacherous 'false friend'.

Every follower of ISLAM.

Every betrayer.

Every covenant breaker.


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Psalms 40:1
I waited patiently for the LORD; and he inclined unto me, and heard my cry.
2  He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.
3  And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the LORD.
4  Blessed is that man that maketh the LORD his trust, and respecteth not the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies.



Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gordon on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:55pm

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:02pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

That's sure to stop the terrorists.


Well, apart form the home-grown, rightwing, white supremacist terrorists who are responsible for more attacks than any other group.

Can you show the statistics  in Australia for white supremacist terror attacks as opposed to those in the name of Islam? Thanks.


Yes.
Got nothing again? Thought so. Groundhog day for you every day isnt it? Make a spurious claim, fail to show any evidence. Rinse and repeat.


Just ignore it, same of crap. Let the facts speak for themselves, and remember, all this from a group which represents 2% of the populaiton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Australia

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:56pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:46pm:


There is no benefit [to ourselves] in arguing [debating] on contentious issues, with people [who you know], are liars and covenant breakers.

They will tell you any lie, while they will protest how trustworthy and faithful they are.


And your personal evidence of this, what exactly, Yadda?

You don't know any Muslims, personally, do you, Yadda?

You'd even cross the street rather than walk on the same side as a Muslim, now wouldn't you?  You have absolutely no experience of personal interaction with Muslim people, do you?

I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter on.  Inshalla.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:56pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:21am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

Thats sure to stop the terrorists.


True, bit like closing the stable after the horse has bolted.
Better to not let Muslims come in the first place.



Well - obviously this vile treatment of this lovely man will radicalise him..................... wait a minute..... ummm .... bit late for that... but it has to be the fault of the West/Australia, right? 

I'll leave that one to the social scientists and the lovely little girlie social workers and such that get to chat with his loveliness in prison etc.... they'll be able to justify that stance.....

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:58pm
"Strange though that so many people on this forum are apologists for rightwing terrorists.

They never condemn them - ever."


So now not commenting on a totally separate issue in the midst of a storm is 'being an apologist'?

Let's deal with one clear set of assholes at a time... how long ago was Jack now? 

"Islamic terrorism is relatively rare in this country"

Good to know that our security services are right on their arse and don't give them the leeway to even start - caught in the build-up phase is better for the health of the ordinary people.

"You'd even cross the street rather than walk on the same side as a Muslim, now wouldn't you? "

Never been to Campsie, have you?  A family group of these assholes will walk side by side down the footpath taking up the whole width and granmas on sticks have to get out of their way... of course you could always just walk legit and collide with them instead of going around.... they are cultural scum, and have no benefit for this nation.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:59pm
Greggy,

Quote:
I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter one.  Inshalla.


Apologist.


The face of evil:

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:11pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:02pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

That's sure to stop the terrorists.


Well, apart form the home-grown, rightwing, white supremacist terrorists who are responsible for more attacks than any other group.

Can you show the statistics  in Australia for white supremacist terror attacks as opposed to those in the name of Islam? Thanks.


Yes.
Got nothing again? Thought so. Groundhog day for you every day isnt it? Make a spurious claim, fail to show any evidence. Rinse and repeat.


Islamic terrorism is relatively rare in this country (as well as the UK, Europe, the USA, Canada, New Zealand, etc.) compared to other forms such as rightwing and white supremacist terrorist activity.

Jack van Tongeren, for example, was responsible for well over 20 terrorist attacks here in Perth alone.

There haven't even been 20 Islamic attacks in the entire country.

Islamic terrorism is disgusting, as is every other form of terrorism, and I condemn the perpetrators unconditionally no matter their religion, colour, or political persuasion.

Strange though that so many people on this forum are apologists for rightwing terrorists.

They never condemn them - ever.

I wonder why that is   :-/
How many people did he kill in his attacks?

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:59pm:
Greggy,

Quote:
I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter one.  Inshalla.


Apologist.


The face of evil:


You're the apologist, butt boy.

"Islamic terrorism is disgusting, as is every other form of terrorism, and I condemn the perpetrators unconditionally no matter their religion, colour, or political persuasion."

You still refuse to condemn rightwing white supremacist terrorists.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:04pm

issuevoter wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:29am:
That's not fair. He should appeal to the United Nations. He's having his Human Rights denied. This wouldn't happen under a Labor/Green government. Bloody fascist Liberals!


He's been issued with an "Ex Citizenship Visa", whatever that means. Hope it's not a visa to stay in Australia ... wait! Yes it is


An ex-citizen visa is a permanent visa and allows its holder to remain in Australia, but does not allow its holder to travel outside of Australia. If you cease to be an Australian citizen while outside of Australia, you will have no visa. There are circumstances under which an ex-citizen may resume their Australian citizenship.


What have you got to do get a convicted terrorist deported? Why all the dilly dallying around?

We know what the courts will say, don't we?

"There is a chance this muslim, who emerged from the moderate muslim community, can rehabilitate himself and therefore be allowed to re-apply for citizenship"

The Libs and Labs are wankers

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:59pm:
Greggy,

Quote:
I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter one.  Inshalla.


Apologist.


The face of evil:


You're the apologist, butt boy.

"Islamic terrorism is disgusting, as is every other form of terrorism, and I condemn the perpetrators unconditionally no matter their religion, colour, or political persuasion."

You still refuse to condemn rightwing white supremacist terrorists.



I condemn all terrorists.
Every last one of them needs to be hanged.

He's lucky this isn't the Wild West as
he would have been hanged years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdbKHZdGcE

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:08pm

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:11pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:02pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

That's sure to stop the terrorists.


Well, apart form the home-grown, rightwing, white supremacist terrorists who are responsible for more attacks than any other group.

Can you show the statistics  in Australia for white supremacist terror attacks as opposed to those in the name of Islam? Thanks.


Yes.
Got nothing again? Thought so. Groundhog day for you every day isnt it? Make a spurious claim, fail to show any evidence. Rinse and repeat.


Islamic terrorism is relatively rare in this country (as well as the UK, Europe, the USA, Canada, New Zealand, etc.) compared to other forms such as rightwing and white supremacist terrorist activity.

Jack van Tongeren, for example, was responsible for well over 20 terrorist attacks here in Perth alone.

There haven't even been 20 Islamic attacks in the entire country.

Islamic terrorism is disgusting, as is every other form of terrorism, and I condemn the perpetrators unconditionally no matter their religion, colour, or political persuasion.

Strange though that so many people on this forum are apologists for rightwing terrorists.

They never condemn them - ever.

I wonder why that is   :-/
How many people did he kill in his attacks?
Simple question.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:59pm:
Greggy,

Quote:
I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter one.  Inshalla.


Apologist.


The face of evil:


You're the apologist, butt boy.

"Islamic terrorism is disgusting, as is every other form of terrorism, and I condemn the perpetrators unconditionally no matter their religion, colour, or political persuasion."

You still refuse to condemn rightwing white supremacist terrorists.


Start a strand on right wing terrorists then .... you still claim that nobody condemned Tarrant in NZ despite a storm of comments on this site against him.

I suppose that is Inevitable™ in your desperate attempt to divert the discussion AWAY from Islamic/Islamist extremes regardless of how many plots are foiled, or how many dopes strut the streets carrying placards offering to chop heads, or how many of these 'Muslim authority figures theocratic Mk I' preach about killing Unbelievers as a right and a duty?

Hang ten a week until the rest get the message.... 

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:18pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:08pm:
Hang ten a week until the rest get the message.... 



hear hear sir Grappler.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by issuevoter on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:08pm:
Hang ten a week until the rest get the message.... 





hear hear sir Grappler.


No that is not going to happen. They need to be house-trained like dogs. Rub their noses in their sh1t, every time the do it in our house. That means publicity in all media.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:50pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC_IaY3BmY

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:59pm:
Greggy,

Quote:
I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter one.  Inshalla.


Who, Bobby? Oh, dearie, dearie, me?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:59pm:
Greggy,

Quote:
I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter one.  Inshalla.


Who, Bobby? Oh, dearie, dearie, me?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)




Brian is an apologist for the devil.



The face of evil:

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by cods on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:56pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:46pm:


There is no benefit [to ourselves] in arguing [debating] on contentious issues, with people [who you know], are liars and covenant breakers.

They will tell you any lie, while they will protest how trustworthy and faithful they are.


And your personal evidence of this, what exactly, Yadda?

You don't know any Muslims, personally, do you, Yadda?

You'd even cross the street rather than walk on the same side as a Muslim, now wouldn't you?  You have absolutely no experience of personal interaction with Muslim people, do you?

I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter on.  Inshalla.   ::) ::)




is there anyone this guy hasnt met shaken hands with  entrusted his life too.....he has an answer for everything and everyone....... ::) ::) what  soldier of fortune are we dealing with here..... as a PM he could not have met more famous persons  or dealt with more minority groups......its gobsmacking....you need to write a book bri bri.....call it

MY LIFE my HERO.. ME.. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by cods on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:59pm:
Greggy,

Quote:
I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter one.  Inshalla.


Who, Bobby? Oh, dearie, dearie, me?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)




Greggy is an apologist for the devil.



The face of evil:



that wasnt greggy bobs it was bri bri.. you know hes met everyone thats important....even entrusted his life to them... god knows when he fitted in the time    what with all those degrees he has ..    I am so surprised this guy spends so much time behind a keyboard..........doesnt add up does it????

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:05pm

cods wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:59pm:
Greggy,

Quote:
I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter one.  Inshalla.


Who, Bobby? Oh, dearie, dearie, me?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)




Greggy is an apologist for the devil.



The face of evil:



that wasnt greggy bobs it was bri bri.. you know hes met everyone thats important....even entrusted his life to them... god knows when he fitted in the time    what with all those degrees he has ..    I am so surprised this guy spends so much time behind a keyboard..........doesnt add up does it????



You're right Cods.
I misread it.
It was Brian who wrote that.
Brian is an apologist for the devil.

I edited it.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:59pm:
Greggy,

Quote:
I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter one.  Inshalla.


Who, Bobby? Oh, dearie, dearie, me?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


Brian is an apologist for the devil.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by cods on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:05pm:

cods wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:59pm:
Greggy,

Quote:
I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter one.  Inshalla.


Who, Bobby? Oh, dearie, dearie, me?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)




Greggy is an apologist for the devil.



The face of evil:



that wasnt greggy bobs it was bri bri.. you know hes met everyone thats important....even entrusted his life to them... god knows when he fitted in the time    what with all those degrees he has ..    I am so surprised this guy spends so much time behind a keyboard..........doesnt add up does it????



You're right Cods.
I misread it.
It was Brian who wrote that.
Brian is an apologist for the devil.

I edited it.



lol he thinks he is Mr Superior Mr High and Mighty I love the way he throws in his lifes episodes to impress us all....I wish I had kept a list of all his accomplishments  and the people hes met had a drink with shaken hands with...even walked past...lolol..

I dont think  a PM has had all that..... :) :)

Walter Mitty eat your heart out. :D :D

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:13pm

cods wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:56pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:46pm:


There is no benefit [to ourselves] in arguing [debating] on contentious issues, with people [who you know], are liars and covenant breakers.

They will tell you any lie, while they will protest how trustworthy and faithful they are.


And your personal evidence of this, what exactly, Yadda?

You don't know any Muslims, personally, do you, Yadda?

You'd even cross the street rather than walk on the same side as a Muslim, now wouldn't you?  You have absolutely no experience of personal interaction with Muslim people, do you?

I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter on.  Inshalla.   ::) ::)




is there anyone this guy hasnt met shaken hands with  entrusted his life too.....he has an answer for everything and everyone....... ::) ::) what  soldier of fortune are we dealing with here..... as a PM he could not have met more famous persons  or dealt with more minority groups......its gobsmacking....you need to write a book bri bri.....call it

MY LIFE my HERO.. ME.. ;D ;D




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Jealously is such a curse, hey, Cods?  I suppose if all you ever did was housewiferly duties, you'd never meet anyone, now would you?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:59pm:
Greggy,

Quote:
I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter one.  Inshalla.


Who, Bobby? Oh, dearie, dearie, me?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


Brian is an apologist for the devil.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)



Brian - confess for the end is nigh.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by cods on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:20pm
someone who lives in fantasyland wont fez up bobby..

just feel sorry for him   I do....

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:28pm

cods wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:20pm:
someone who lives in fantasyland wont fez up bobby..

just feel sorry for him   I do....



I am beating a confession out of him on the other thread:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1213516272/105#114

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 26th, 2020 at 4:23pm


::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by John Smith on Nov 26th, 2020 at 4:59pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:46pm:


There is no benefit [to ourselves] in arguing [debating] on contentious issues, with people [who you know], are liars and covenant breakers.

They will tell you any lie, while they will protest how trustworthy and faithful they are.


All moslems.

Almost all politicians.

All John Smiths.

All greggery's.

All karnal's.

All brian's.

All long w/e's.

All barnacle's.

All buzzddidj's.

All mothra's.

I guess many of them would justify their open, public deceit towards others, as the legitimate condition of fighting [being in conflict with] an enemy.

You're a moron ... and that's not a lie.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Valkie on Nov 26th, 2020 at 5:39pm
If They Revoked The Citizenship Of Every Musso Or Monkey That Committed A Crime.

Better than 3/4 would be gone.

Add those not working and those on disability pensions, there goes another 15%

It's a shame we can't get rid of the other biggest parasites on earth.

But we are stuck with them because they are indiginious.


Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 26th, 2020 at 5:50pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 8:32am:
The air force should fly him home and kick him out the door at 40k feet with an umbrella for a chute.
Muslim scum.


The last time people had an idea for a Mary Poppins moment, they named the movie "The Last Jedi".

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 26th, 2020 at 6:40pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 5:50pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 8:32am:
The air force should fly him home and kick him out the door at 40k feet with an umbrella for a chute.
Muslim scum.


The last time people had an idea for a Mary Poppins moment, they named the movie "The Last Jedi".


A black chopper on darkest midnight still, but wait for Winter there when it's Far Ken Kold, out the door, and left to his own devices to see how he gets on with his 'fellow' Muslims - if they are the wrong sect, they might only shoot him....   :-?

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Yadda on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:56pm:

And your personal evidence of this, what exactly, Yadda?

You don't know any Muslims, personally, do you, Yadda?

You'd even cross the street rather than walk on the same side as a Muslim, now wouldn't you?  You have absolutely no experience of personal interaction with Muslim people, do you?

I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter on.  Inshalla.



brian,

I think that it is highly presumptuous of you, to assert in this forum, that you believe that you know the character of any 'nominal moslem', much better than i [or other persons] can.

Knowing what ISLAMIC doctrine teaches [religious hatred of non-moslems], your assertion is an absurdity.


.


Muslim preacher, LIVING IN AUSTRALIA, in 2020 !!!
preaches, "put to the sword" the enemies of Allah.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1605652372/0#0



.



Who woulda guessed that so many moslems [who chose to leave ISLAMIC 'heartland' nations], as migrants, wanting to live among non-believers, in the pluralist West,
1/ still love Allah so, so much,        and yet,
2/ show their hatred of the non-moslems which they came to live amongst. So much so, that many moslems seek to murder non-moslems at every [real] opportunity ???



UK: Muslim jailed for jihad terror offenses asks of people killed by ISIS, ‘Why didn’t they just accept Sharia?’

UK: Muslim jailed for encouraging jihad massacres had attended ‘deradicalization’ program

UK: Almost 50 foreign-born jihadis avoid deportation on release from prison

Nice Church Attack and Paris Teacher Beheading Linked, French Investigators Say [oh! what a suprise! i wonder what the connection could be ?!?!?!? yadda]

Spain: Jihad murderer taunts non-Muslims, ‘Allah has chosen us to make you cry some blood’

Austria: ‘Devout’ Muslim teen with ties to Islamic State arrested as possible accomplice in Vienna jihad massacre

Austria: All 14 of those detained in connection with Vienna jihad massacre are Muslim migrants

France: Muslim migrant gets life of prison dawah for killing a woman and trying to bomb a church

France: Muslim threatens elementary school teachers, vowing to ‘avenge the prophet of Allah’

Austria: Jihad murderer was well known to security services and member of a mosque that was monitored

Austria: Vienna jihad murderer sent videos of Charlie Hebdo jihad massacre to suspected accomplices

Mother of Muslim who murdered three: He ‘did start praying and taking his religion more seriously a few months ago’
[....or perhaps he simply read his Koran in the mosque?; "Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,"
Koran 9.14 yadda ]

Vienna jihad murderer was released from prison early....., told judge he’d ‘got into the wrong mosque’

Vienna: Attack confirmed as jihad massacre, five dead, attacker was Muslim who supported ISIS

UK: Security guard ignored report about Manchester jihad bomber over fear of being called racist

France: Muslim who killed three in church carried Qur’an, screamed ‘Allahu akbar,’ arrived only days ago as migrant

France: ‘Anti-Islamophobia’ campaigner issued death fatwa against teacher who showed Muhammad cartoon [perhaps this Anti-ISLAM-O-PHOBIA campaigner was someone brian knows - 'REALLY WELL' ? ]

France: Muslim who beheaded man over Muhammad cartoons arrived in country when he was six to seek asylum

.....and lots more!


For articles, WWW search... those title lines


n.b.
We can all be certain, that brian would certainly have identified all of these moslem murderers and wanna-be-murderers [above], as dangerous miscreants at his first sighting of them.
/sarc off



ARGUMENT;
The moslem, every follower of ISLAM, [by his public declarations and public behaviour] shows himself to be incapable of [sincere] peaceful co-habitation,
with any person [being a non-moslem], who seeks to express the right, TO PUBLICLY DECLARE HIMSELF, A DISBELIEVER.

Just like the moslems, still in moslem countries, show themselves to be incapable living in a peaceful and equitable state with the non-moslem [who seeks to openly declare he is a non-moslem].





WWW search....
islam, unbelief is worse than killing

i.e.
ISLAM teaches the moslem, mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine declares that unbelief [i.e. rejecting ISLAM] is a capital crime.


THAT IS TRUE!!!!        110%



Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:36pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:56pm:

And your personal evidence of this, what exactly, Yadda?

You don't know any Muslims, personally, do you, Yadda?

You'd even cross the street rather than walk on the same side as a Muslim, now wouldn't you?  You have absolutely no experience of personal interaction with Muslim people, do you?

I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter on.  Inshalla.



brian,

I think that it is highly presumptuous of you, to assert in this forum, that you believe that you know the character of any 'nominal moslem', much better than i [or other persons] can.

Knowing what ISLAMIC doctrine teaches [religious hatred of non-moslems], your assertion is an absurdity.


I was right though, wasn't I, Yadda?  You don't know any Muslims, persoanally.  You rely on the works that reinforce your Islamophobia, rather than find out for yourself if you are right or wrong.  Tsk, tsk, just another bullshit artist.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Yadda, Islamophobe.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Yadda on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:36pm:

I was right though, wasn't I, Yadda?

You don't know any Muslims, persoanally.

You rely on the works that reinforce your Islamophobia, rather than find out for yourself if you are right or wrong.

Tsk, tsk, just another bullshit artist.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.

Yadda, Islamophobe.   ::) ::)



SHOW ME A MOSLEM BRIAN,   ....ANY MOSLEM, EVERY MOSLEM.




Moslem = = a follower of ISLAM.



Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1570367530/2#2

Quote:

MY ARGUMENT;
1/ Every moslem is a follower of ISLAM.

2/ And ISLAM is a philosophy which mandates that its followers must fight and kill people, who reject ISLAM, and the primacy of ISLAMIC law.

And, a new attack is going to occur whenever      any individual moslem [living among us, in Australia] decides that 'now' is a good moment for him to prove his devotion to ISLAM and to Allah.




.




Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda



QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?




.




Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1536141258/46#46

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1534830555/0#0




.




This is the solution which i favour, and i outline the reasons why i do.....

QUARANTINE WORKS!!

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34


and....
The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0


Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Dnarever on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:47pm
Imagine being revoked by Mr Potato head.

The shame is that Potato head wasn't revoked too.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Agatha on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.



Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:11pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:02pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

That's sure to stop the terrorists.


Well, apart form the home-grown, rightwing, white supremacist terrorists who are responsible for more attacks than any other group.

Can you show the statistics  in Australia for white supremacist terror attacks as opposed to those in the name of Islam? Thanks.


Yes.
Got nothing again? Thought so. Groundhog day for you every day isnt it? Make a spurious claim, fail to show any evidence. Rinse and repeat.


Islamic terrorism is relatively rare in this country (as well as the UK, Europe, the USA, Canada, New Zealand, etc.) compared to other forms such as rightwing and white supremacist terrorist activity.

Jack van Tongeren, for example, was responsible for well over 20 terrorist attacks here in Perth alone.

There haven't even been 20 Islamic attacks in the entire country.

Islamic terrorism is disgusting, as is every other form of terrorism, and I condemn the perpetrators unconditionally no matter their religion, colour, or political persuasion.

Strange though that so many people on this forum are apologists for rightwing terrorists.

They never condemn them - ever.

I wonder why that is   :-/



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Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by cods on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:36pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:56pm:

And your personal evidence of this, what exactly, Yadda?

You don't know any Muslims, personally, do you, Yadda?

You'd even cross the street rather than walk on the same side as a Muslim, now wouldn't you?  You have absolutely no experience of personal interaction with Muslim people, do you?

I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter on.  Inshalla.



brian,

I think that it is highly presumptuous of you, to assert in this forum, that you believe that you know the character of any 'nominal moslem', much better than i [or other persons] can.

Knowing what ISLAMIC doctrine teaches [religious hatred of non-moslems], your assertion is an absurdity.


I was right though, wasn't I, Yadda?  You don't know any Muslims, persoanally.  You rely on the works that reinforce your Islamophobia, rather than find out for yourself if you are right or wrong.  Tsk, tsk, just another bullshit artist.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Yadda, Islamophobe.   ::) ::)




hell it takes one to know one... :D :D..

you have probably collared all the Muslims that would want to mix and get to know aussie Christians....I have never met a Muslim it doesnt make me like or dislike them any the less......what I read of them [like this guy] turns me right off those who hate us and all Westerners.......simple as that...they neither seek me out nor I them....

why dont you chuck a party and invite all these bad people to come and meet all those muslims who you trust your life with... I am sure Yadda wont mind being searched at the door....

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:02pm

lee wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:11pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:02pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 11:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:54am:
good show.

That's sure to stop the terrorists.


Well, apart form the home-grown, rightwing, white supremacist terrorists who are responsible for more attacks than any other group.

Can you show the statistics  in Australia for white supremacist terror attacks as opposed to those in the name of Islam? Thanks.


Yes.
Got nothing again? Thought so. Groundhog day for you every day isnt it? Make a spurious claim, fail to show any evidence. Rinse and repeat.


Islamic terrorism is relatively rare in this country (as well as the UK, Europe, the USA, Canada, New Zealand, etc.) compared to other forms such as rightwing and white supremacist terrorist activity.

Jack van Tongeren, for example, was responsible for well over 20 terrorist attacks here in Perth alone.

There haven't even been 20 Islamic attacks in the entire country.

Islamic terrorism is disgusting, as is every other form of terrorism, and I condemn the perpetrators unconditionally no matter their religion, colour, or political persuasion.

Strange though that so many people on this forum are apologists for rightwing terrorists.

They never condemn them - ever.

I wonder why that is   :-/



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So the South island wasn't good to you? ;D ;D ;D ;D


I live in two places.

Well, I used to until Covid.

Been stuck in Perth all this year.

Before NZ, my second home was in Tasmania (Hobart).

Have you never heard of people who have two homes?

So anyway, why don't you ever condemn non-Islamic terrorists?

Are you a white supremacist, lee?

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Yadda on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:19pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:32pm:

ARGUMENT;
The moslem, every follower of ISLAM, [by his public declarations and public behaviour] shows himself to be incapable of [sincere] peaceful co-habitation,
with any person [being a non-moslem], who seeks to express the right, TO PUBLICLY DECLARE HIMSELF, A DISBELIEVER.

Just like the moslems, still in moslem countries, show themselves to be incapable living in a peaceful and equitable state with the non-moslem [who seeks to openly declare he is a non-moslem].





WWW search....
islam, unbelief is worse than killing

i.e.
ISLAM teaches the moslem, mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine declares that unbelief [i.e. rejecting ISLAM] is a capital crime.


THAT IS TRUE!!!!        110%



MORE EXAMPLES OF MOSLEM UTTER HATRED AND INTOLERANCE, OF NON-MOSLEMS.



France: Muslim stabs man and repeatedly screams ‘Allahu akbar’ while resisting arrest - Celebrate diversity!

Bangladesh: Muslims assault Catholics, smash windows and destroy books and other religious items in the church

Islamic Republic of Iran raids and ransacks homes of Baha’is all over the country     [but i'm sure that real moslems are really tolerant of non-moslems. brian knows some who are. yadda]

Portugal: Muslim migrant head of anti-racism group says ‘it is necessary to kill the white man’      [but i'm sure that he isn't a RACIST though. yadda]

Switzerland: Knife-wielding Muslima known to police for jihad sentiments stabs two people in department store      [swiss police are still searching for a motive. yadda]

.....and lots more!


For full articles, WWW search... those title lines



Tolerance of ISLAM ?

In Western nations ?

QUESTION;
To what purpose ?




.



Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8

Quote:

Promoting and encouraging violent and unlawful acts is illegal.

We live in a country in which the people supposedly respect the rule of law.

Without widespread respect for the law of the land, we [our Australian society] would descend into being like Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, etc, etc - which is exactly what moslems are trying to achieve.

Moslems want to destroy all of the institutions in Australia, which help to maintain a peaceful and functioning society.


SUGGESTION;
If you live in Australia and you don't like what ISLAM promotes then you should contact your federal parliamentary representative - EXPLAIN TO HIM/HER WHY YOU DO NOT LIKE ISLAM AND MOSLEMS - and encourage your federal parliamentary representative to try to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia.

Act within the law.

Otherwise we are no better than moslems.




.



What i believe.....

Followers of ISLAM living in pluralist, Western nations, have no peaceful intent there.

Their intent [as per ISLAMIC religious texts and ISLAMIC doctrinal IMPERATIVES] is to grow in numbers, until they can impose their own will, upon their hosts - THROUGH WARFARE AND CONFLICT.

Some followers of ISLAM openly admit to this intent - from time to time.

----- >



Quote:

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims

London, Sept.8 [2007]

A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.

Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.

A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....

He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece



Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Yadda on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:02pm:

Are you a white supremacist, lee?



Ah !   A RACIST !



Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:53pm

Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.


Really, where are these "traitors to civilisation"?  I can't see any one leaping to his defence.  As far as I am concerned, he has got what he deserves.  Shame it had to come from il Duce' Dutton.  Oh, well, I suppose like a broken two-bob watch, he's right at least twice a day.  What I am defending is ordinary, everyday, mainstream, moderate, Muslims that live down the Australian streets around you.  You know, the ones you condemn in your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:55pm

cods wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:36pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:56pm:

And your personal evidence of this, what exactly, Yadda?

You don't know any Muslims, personally, do you, Yadda?

You'd even cross the street rather than walk on the same side as a Muslim, now wouldn't you?  You have absolutely no experience of personal interaction with Muslim people, do you?

I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter on.  Inshalla.



brian,

I think that it is highly presumptuous of you, to assert in this forum, that you believe that you know the character of any 'nominal moslem', much better than i [or other persons] can.

Knowing what ISLAMIC doctrine teaches [religious hatred of non-moslems], your assertion is an absurdity.


I was right though, wasn't I, Yadda?  You don't know any Muslims, persoanally.  You rely on the works that reinforce your Islamophobia, rather than find out for yourself if you are right or wrong.  Tsk, tsk, just another bullshit artist.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Yadda, Islamophobe.   ::) ::)




hell it takes one to know one... :D :D..

you have probably collared all the Muslims that would want to mix and get to know aussie Christians....I have never met a Muslim it doesnt make me like or dislike them any the less......what I read of them [like this guy] turns me right off those who hate us and all Westerners.......simple as that...they neither seek me out nor I them....

why dont you chuck a party and invite all these bad people to come and meet all those muslims who you trust your life with... I am sure Yadda wont mind being searched at the door....


Cods, Cods, how many times have I told you to lay off the Fruity Lexia cask?   Too many.  Seems to fall on deaf ears.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, once a drunk always a drunk.  I heard SBS TV has a show on about addiction.  Perhaps you should watch it?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:28pm:

cods wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 3:20pm:
someone who lives in fantasyland wont fez up bobby..

just feel sorry for him   I do....



I am beating a confession out of him on the other thread:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1213516272/105#114



Dear Brian,
only with a confession shall you receive salvation.
Repent for the end is nigh.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:53pm:

Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.


Really, where are these "traitors to civilisation"?  I can't see any one leaping to his defence.  As far as I am concerned, he has got what he deserves.  Shame it had to come from il Duce' Dutton.  Oh, well, I suppose like a broken two-bob watch, he's right at least twice a day.  What I am defending is ordinary, everyday, mainstream, moderate, Muslims that live down the Australian streets around you.  You know, the ones you condemn in your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


And?  Who isn't?  I don't see any comment other than against 'radical' types who advocate brutally violating others....

Every comment I've ever made applies to the radical lunatics who want to kill people and destroy the nation that took them in when their fabulous 'homeland' didn't want a bar of them... which makes me wonder why we take in so many of the lowest kind...

What are we?  A convict colony?

I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?

BTW - WHEN and WHERE did you put your life in the hands of a Muslim?

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by polite_gandalf on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:01am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm:
I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?


He doesn't. But the fact is they are both routinely lumped in together here. The distinction is not blurred by Brian and co, but by the usual suspects here who demonise all muslims, and insist on punitive measures that do not discriminate between the fine ones and the unfine ones.

exhibit A:

reply# 14:
As Gordon says, just adjust the immigration program to a zero Muslim intake

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:10am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:01am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm:
I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?

But the fact is they are both routinely lumped in together here.

exhibit A:

reply# 14:
As Gordon says, just adjust the immigration program to a zero Muslim intake


Indeed - but that is the case from BOTH 'sides' of the argument - BrianCo choose to not differentiate between the radical ratbags and the good ones, and to lump all Muslims into one cuddly basket.

On the contrary - those such as my good self speak out against any ratbags - NONE are protected by their 'race' or their ethnicity or their religion... and especially not by their claims to victimhood.

See the difference?



Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by polite_gandalf on Nov 27th, 2020 at 11:34am
For the record Grappler, Brian literally said he thought the guy got what he deserved.

Hardly in the 'cuddly basket'.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by lee on Nov 27th, 2020 at 11:51am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:02pm:
I live in two places.



In your own mind? Just another lie from the lying twerp. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 27th, 2020 at 1:11pm

Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.


Link?

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 27th, 2020 at 1:41pm
Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qdvm6h8WKg

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 27th, 2020 at 1:59pm
Can anyone tell me exactly what has been achieved by cancelling his citizenship and issuing him with a PR visa?

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:12pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:53pm:

Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.


Really, where are these "traitors to civilisation"?  I can't see any one leaping to his defence.  As far as I am concerned, he has got what he deserves.  Shame it had to come from il Duce' Dutton.  Oh, well, I suppose like a broken two-bob watch, he's right at least twice a day.  What I am defending is ordinary, everyday, mainstream, moderate, Muslims that live down the Australian streets around you.  You know, the ones you condemn in your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


And?  Who isn't?  I don't see any comment other than against 'radical' types who advocate brutally violating others....


"Agatha" for one.  Soren for another.  Moses, Yadda, Bobby for three more.  Gnads, Rhino, others.  All mouth off about "Muslims" when they are actually attacking Islamists.  tsk, tsk.   ::)

Quote:
I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?


Where have EVER DONE THAT?  Graps. I have never defended "the unfine ones".  Perhaps you actually need new glasses and read what I do type?


Quote:
BTW - WHEN and WHERE did you put your life in the hands of a Muslim?


When I served in the Australian Army.  My best mate was named "Abdul" and he was Muslim.  His daughter a non-Muslim also served many years later.  I'd trust my life to either of them.  Abdul was a find, upstanding, honest man and a good Australian of Turkish descent.


Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:14pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:10am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:01am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm:
I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?

But the fact is they are both routinely lumped in together here.

exhibit A:

reply# 14:
As Gordon says, just adjust the immigration program to a zero Muslim intake


Indeed - but that is the case from BOTH 'sides' of the argument - BrianCo choose to not differentiate between the radical ratbags and the good ones, and to lump all Muslims into one cuddly basket.


Really?  Where?  Care to quote me where I have done that, Graps?  Mmmm?



Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:14pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:10am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:01am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm:
I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?

But the fact is they are both routinely lumped in together here.

exhibit A:

reply# 14:
As Gordon says, just adjust the immigration program to a zero Muslim intake


Indeed - but that is the case from BOTH 'sides' of the argument - BrianCo choose to not differentiate between the radical ratbags and the good ones, and to lump all Muslims into one cuddly basket.


Really?  Where?  Care to quote me where I have done that, Graps?  Mmmm?


Simple, Brian - I have never yet seen you differentiate between radical and normal Muslims (words carefully chosen there for exact description of the difference).  You always say 'Muslims' as if they are all the same and say that Muslims are being dumped on by being here in safety and potential prosperity.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by polite_gandalf on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:20pm

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 1:59pm:
Can anyone tell me exactly what has been achieved by cancelling his citizenship and issuing him with a PR visa?


Peter Dutton gets to engage in some chest beating?

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:12pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:53pm:

Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.


Really, where are these "traitors to civilisation"?  I can't see any one leaping to his defence.  As far as I am concerned, he has got what he deserves.  Shame it had to come from il Duce' Dutton.  Oh, well, I suppose like a broken two-bob watch, he's right at least twice a day.  What I am defending is ordinary, everyday, mainstream, moderate, Muslims that live down the Australian streets around you.  You know, the ones you condemn in your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


And?  Who isn't?  I don't see any comment other than against 'radical' types who advocate brutally violating others....


"Agatha" for one.  Soren for another.  Moses, Yadda, Bobby for three more.  Gnads, Rhino, others.  All mouth off about "Muslims" when they are actually attacking Islamists.  tsk, tsk.   ::)

Quote:
I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?


Where have EVER DONE THAT?  Graps. I have never defended "the unfine ones".  Perhaps you actually need new glasses and read what I do type?

[quote]
BTW - WHEN and WHERE did you put your life in the hands of a Muslim?


When I served in the Australian Army.  My best mate was named "Abdul" and he was Muslim.  His daughter a non-Muslim also served many years later.  I'd trust my life to either of them.  Abdul was a find, upstanding, honest man and a good Australian of Turkish descent.

[/quote]


I've tried to push the difference between Islamics and Islamists on them for ages.... slow learners.  Ah, Turkic you say?  Old mates by now.

I've also tried for ages to put across that the principal areas that send difficult cases to Australia and the West are generally MEslims or Afrislims of various hues.  Most 'other' Muslims are generally OK, as are the majority even of those groups.

I've known and traded with an Iraqi - offered some freebies online and he was setting up down the lake a bit.  Nice bloke and a nice lady his missus.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:12pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:53pm:

Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.


Really, where are these "traitors to civilisation"?  I can't see any one leaping to his defence.  As far as I am concerned, he has got what he deserves.  Shame it had to come from il Duce' Dutton.  Oh, well, I suppose like a broken two-bob watch, he's right at least twice a day.  What I am defending is ordinary, everyday, mainstream, moderate, Muslims that live down the Australian streets around you.  You know, the ones you condemn in your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


And?  Who isn't?  I don't see any comment other than against 'radical' types who advocate brutally violating others....


"Agatha" for one.  Soren for another.  Moses, Yadda, Bobby for three more.  Gnads, Rhino, others.  All mouth off about "Muslims" when they are actually attacking Islamists.  tsk, tsk.   ::)

Quote:
I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?


Where have EVER DONE THAT?  Graps. I have never defended "the unfine ones".  Perhaps you actually need new glasses and read what I do type?

[quote]
BTW - WHEN and WHERE did you put your life in the hands of a Muslim?


When I served in the Australian Army.  My best mate was named "Abdul" and he was Muslim.  His daughter a non-Muslim also served many years later.  I'd trust my life to either of them.  Abdul was a find, upstanding, honest man and a good Australian of Turkish descent.

[/quote]See thats your problem, you dont even look at what people are posting, too busy yourself posting yawning emojies. My view is and always has been that Islamic immigration is incompatible with our culture and should be stopped. You have never addressed this argument but instead pretend that I am arguing that all Muslims are terrorists, all you have is strawmen. Despite your friend in the military my argument is valid and the fact that we have a substantial number of Muslims born in this country who identify with radical Islam and who seek to commit terrorist  acts against Australians shows clearly the validity of it. We need to adjust our immigration policy to those who are prepare d to assimilate and who share common values, thats only common sense.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:37pm
When exactly was it that we became the dumping ground for the world's cast-offs?  Apart from how is it remotely possible to sustain them while diminishing real economic activity, and even try to assimilate them?

How do you assimilate people who believe in this:-


Well_-_burga_me_.jpg (5 KB | 11 )

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:49pm

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:12pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:53pm:

Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.


Really, where are these "traitors to civilisation"?  I can't see any one leaping to his defence.  As far as I am concerned, he has got what he deserves.  Shame it had to come from il Duce' Dutton.  Oh, well, I suppose like a broken two-bob watch, he's right at least twice a day.  What I am defending is ordinary, everyday, mainstream, moderate, Muslims that live down the Australian streets around you.  You know, the ones you condemn in your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


And?  Who isn't?  I don't see any comment other than against 'radical' types who advocate brutally violating others....


"Agatha" for one.  Soren for another.  Moses, Yadda, Bobby for three more.  Gnads, Rhino, others.  All mouth off about "Muslims" when they are actually attacking Islamists.  tsk, tsk.   ::)

Quote:
I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?


Where have I EVER DONE THAT?  Graps. I have never defended "the unfine ones".  Perhaps you actually need new glasses and read what I do type?

[quote]
BTW - WHEN and WHERE did you put your life in the hands of a Muslim?


When I served in the Australian Army.  My best mate was named "Abdul" and he was Muslim.  His daughter a non-Muslim also served many years later.  I'd trust my life to either of them.  Abdul was a find, upstanding, honest man and a good Australian of Turkish descent.
See thats your problem, you dont even look at what people are posting, too busy yourself posting yawning emojies. My view is and always has been that Islamic immigration is incompatible with our culture and should be stopped. You have never addressed this argument but instead pretend that I am arguing that all Muslims are terrorists, all you have is strawmen. Despite your friend in the military my argument is valid and the fact that we have a substantial number of Muslims born in this country who identify with radical Islam and who seek to commit terrorist  acts against Australians shows clearly the validity of it. We need to adjust our immigration policy to those who are prepare d to assimilate and who share common values, thats only common sense.
[/quote]

Rhino, you simply cannot claim that all Muslims are incompatible with "our culture" when we have a Multicultural society.  Muslims are not uniformly all one culture, they are a religion which overlays multiple different cultures.  An Indonesian is fundamentally different to a Pakistani and a Pakistani is different to an Iranian and an Iranian is different to a Saudi Arabian and a Saudi Arabian is different to a North African and a North African is different to a Southern African and a Southern African is different to an American.   Muslims all come from different cultures.  All are quite different to each other.  You are being Islamophobic in your view that all Muslims are identical.  Grow up.  We need perhaps to be a little more particular about what sort of Muslims we accept.  We don't need blanket expressions of hatred.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 27th, 2020 at 3:11pm
no, you Are wrong. Radical Islamics are identical in their hatred for western culture, unfortunately Brian, you dont understand this too well. Islam is a culture, not just a religion and we could compare this with western culture based on Christianity. Cant believe you have any sort of degree let alone a doctorate when you cant understand these fundamental concepts. i can assure you that the radical Islamist in Indonesia planting his bombs in Bali hoping to kill westerners is displaying exactly the same sort of radical Islam views as the home grown terrorist Muslim in Australia. They are all feeding at the same source of hatred. You dont understand very much at all, maybe you shouldnt be in this arguement until you get  a bit of knowledge and life experience.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:46pm

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 3:11pm:
no, you Are wrong. Radical Islamics are identical in their hatred for western culture, unfortunately Brian, you dont understand this too well. Islam is a culture, not just a religion and we could compare this with western culture based on Christianity. Cant believe you have any sort of degree let alone a doctorate when you cant understand these fundamental concepts. i can assure you that the radical Islamist in Indonesia planting his bombs in Bali hoping to kill westerners is displaying exactly the same sort of radical Islam views as the home grown terrorist Muslim in Australia. They are all feeding at the same source of hatred. You dont understand very much at all, maybe you shouldnt be in this arguement until you get  a bit of knowledge and life experience.


Yet, by your own language, they are Islamists.  Radicals who seek to do harm to any that hold counter views their own, Muslim or Westerner.  They are no different to Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist extremists who want to do harm to those that don't hold their religious views.  You should be taking aim at Islamists, not at ordinary, everyday, moderate, Muslims.

The problem is that all Islamophobes are too lazy to make a differentiation between the two groups.  They just prefer to lump all Muslims together.  Tsk, tsk.  WOFTAM. ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:46pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 3:11pm:
no, you Are wrong. Radical Islamics are identical in their hatred for western culture, unfortunately Brian, you dont understand this too well. Islam is a culture, not just a religion and we could compare this with western culture based on Christianity. Cant believe you have any sort of degree let alone a doctorate when you cant understand these fundamental concepts. i can assure you that the radical Islamist in Indonesia planting his bombs in Bali hoping to kill westerners is displaying exactly the same sort of radical Islam views as the home grown terrorist Muslim in Australia. They are all feeding at the same source of hatred. You dont understand very much at all, maybe you shouldnt be in this arguement until you get  a bit of knowledge and life experience.


Yet, by your own language, they are Islamists.  Radicals who seek to do harm to any that hold counter views their own, Muslim or Westerner.  They are no different to Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist extremists who want to do harm to those that don't hold their religious views.  You should be taking aim at Islamists, not at ordinary, everyday, moderate, Muslims.

The problem is that all Islamophobes are too lazy to make a differentiation between the two groups.  They just prefer to lump all Muslims together.  Tsk, tsk.  WOFTAM. ::) ::) ::)
The Saudis are giving the Indos megadollars to build radical Mosques and madrassas throughout the country in order to spread their version of Islamic culture, moderate Muslims are a dying breed. And I know a lot more Muslims than you do.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Captain Caveman on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:46pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 3:11pm:
no, you Are wrong. Radical Islamics are identical in their hatred for western culture, unfortunately Brian, you dont understand this too well. Islam is a culture, not just a religion and we could compare this with western culture based on Christianity. Cant believe you have any sort of degree let alone a doctorate when you cant understand these fundamental concepts. i can assure you that the radical Islamist in Indonesia planting his bombs in Bali hoping to kill westerners is displaying exactly the same sort of radical Islam views as the home grown terrorist Muslim in Australia. They are all feeding at the same source of hatred. You dont understand very much at all, maybe you shouldnt be in this arguement until you get  a bit of knowledge and life experience.


Yet, by your own language, they are Islamists.  Radicals who seek to do harm to any that hold counter views their own, Muslim or Westerner.  They are no different to Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist extremists who want to do harm to those that don't hold their religious views.  You should be taking aim at Islamists, not at ordinary, everyday, moderate, Muslims.

The problem is that all Islamophobes are too lazy to make a differentiation between the two groups.  They just prefer to lump all Muslims together.  Tsk, tsk.  WOFTAM. ::) ::) ::)



Can you give some kind of indication of how you tell them apart.  ::)

Don't sway back towards other groups. Muslims around the world are killing every hour. How do you tell the bad ones from the good ones?
At least the millitary dress in a uniform. Easy to identify.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by John Smith on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:55pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
Can you give some kind of indication of how you tell them apart.



the same way you can tell apart an extremist christian.   ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Captain Caveman on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:56pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:55pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
Can you give some kind of indication of how you tell them apart.



the same way you can tell apart an extremist christian.   ::)



And how many of them have struck down people this week?

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by John Smith on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:57pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:55pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
Can you give some kind of indication of how you tell them apart.



the same way you can tell apart an extremist christian.   ::)



And how many of them have struck down people this week?


No idea ... i don't keep count.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Captain Caveman on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:02pm
There's nothing to count.  ;D

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by John Smith on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:03pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:02pm:
There's nothing to count.  ;D


you keep telling yourself that

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Captain Caveman on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:10pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:03pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:02pm:
There's nothing to count.  ;D


you keep telling yourself that



In saying that you must know of some.......one.....half of one.......maybe a waterbomb thrown into a blm protest?


I'll give you attacks from Muslims just this week.
https://thereligionofpeace.com


Your turn.
Show me all these nasty Christians....hell, anyone. Bloody atheists for all i care.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Captain Caveman on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:13pm
The thing is, I'll concede and bend the knee if anyone can prove that any other religion is taking out people like the slimers are.

Here's my entry again.
https://thereligionofpeace.com

Now raise me.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bobby. on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:16pm
Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qdvm6h8WKg

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:52pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:13pm:
The thing is, I'll concede and bend the knee if anyone can prove that any other religion is taking out people like the slimers are.

Here's my entry again.
https://thereligionofpeace.com

Now raise me.


Why does it have to be a religion?

There are many groups (and individuals) who "take out" more people than Islamic terrorists?

Why are you limiting it to just religions?


Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:13pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:46pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 3:11pm:
no, you Are wrong. Radical Islamics are identical in their hatred for western culture, unfortunately Brian, you dont understand this too well. Islam is a culture, not just a religion and we could compare this with western culture based on Christianity. Cant believe you have any sort of degree let alone a doctorate when you cant understand these fundamental concepts. i can assure you that the radical Islamist in Indonesia planting his bombs in Bali hoping to kill westerners is displaying exactly the same sort of radical Islam views as the home grown terrorist Muslim in Australia. They are all feeding at the same source of hatred. You dont understand very much at all, maybe you shouldnt be in this arguement until you get  a bit of knowledge and life experience.


Yet, by your own language, they are Islamists.  Radicals who seek to do harm to any that hold counter views their own, Muslim or Westerner.  They are no different to Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist extremists who want to do harm to those that don't hold their religious views.  You should be taking aim at Islamists, not at ordinary, everyday, moderate, Muslims.

The problem is that all Islamophobes are too lazy to make a differentiation between the two groups.  They just prefer to lump all Muslims together.  Tsk, tsk.  WOFTAM. ::) ::) ::)


Can you give some kind of indication of how you tell them apart.  ::)

Don't sway back towards other groups. Muslims around the world are killing every hour. How do you tell the bad ones from the good ones?
At least the millitary dress in a uniform. Easy to identify.


MMMmmm, you could try asking them questions?  Simple, civilised interrogation techniques work well with most people.  Of course, Islamophobes might find it hard.  They'd have to assume that innocent people are well, innocent.  Which is impossible for most Islamophobes...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:22pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:13pm:
The thing is, I'll concede and bend the knee if anyone can prove that any other religion is taking out people like the slimers are.

Here's my entry again.
https://thereligionofpeace.com

Now raise me.


Christian terrorism

In the Name of the Father? Christian Militantism in Tripura, Northern Uganda, and Ambon

6 modern-day Christian terrorist groups our media conveniently ignores

Why a White Christian Isn't Called a Terrorist

christian terrorism

Seems to be plenty sites out there, if you go looking.  Have you gone looking or are you relying on others to do your research for you? ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:34pm

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:51pm:
The Saudis are giving the Indos megadollars to build radical Mosques and madrassas throughout the country in order to spread their version of Islamic culture, moderate Muslims are a dying breed. And I know a lot more Muslims than you do.


Really?  Well done.  So we need to counter the Saudi influence.  There are plenty of moderate, ordinary, everyday, Muslims, Rhino.  You need to find them, that's all.  They aren't invisible in Australia.  They aren't invisible in Indonesia or Malaysia, either.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Christian terrorism



You wanna watch what's in the links you post ....


According to terrorism expert David C. Rapoport, a "religious wave", or cycle, of terrorism, dates from

approximately 1979 to the present. According to Rapoport, this wave most prominently

features Islamic terrorism
, but it also includes terrorism by Christians and other

religious groups that may have been influenced by Islamic terrorism
.[48]



Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:34pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:51pm:
The Saudis are giving the Indos megadollars to build radical Mosques and madrassas throughout the country in order to spread their version of Islamic culture, moderate Muslims are a dying breed. And I know a lot more Muslims than you do.


Really?  Well done.  So we need to counter the Saudi influence.  There are plenty of moderate, ordinary, everyday, Muslims, Rhino.  You need to find them, that's all.  They aren't invisible in Australia.  They aren't invisible in Indonesia or Malaysia, either.   ::) ::)
Its the Islamic culture that is the issue, not the religion itself. The Arabs would still be stoning people to death,  performing honour killings,  cutting female clits out regardless of Islam. But the 2 are inseparable, thats what you dont get. Any practising Muslim will take their direction and guidance from who they consider to be the source of Islam, and that is the radical fundamentalism in the Middle East, Western values are anathema to Middle Eastern Islamic culture. I do not understand this self loathing that comes from people like you who believe that Western values should be dictated to by Muslim immigrants to this country. I dont want to hear about your Muslim mate again, thats getting boring, Ive known and worked with hundreds if not thousands of Muslim people, no one gives a sh1t of this virtue signalling cr2p.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:52pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:13pm:
The thing is, I'll concede and bend the knee if anyone can prove that any other religion is taking out people like the slimers are.

Here's my entry again.
https://thereligionofpeace.com

Now raise me.


Why does it have to be a religion?

There are many groups (and individuals) who "take out" more people than Islamic terrorists?

Why are you limiting it to just religions?
Why are you apologising for Islamic terrorism?

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:51pm
Kind of strange but I appear to be the only one thinking that they shouldnt have revoked his citizenship. Just means he cant travel overseas without losing the right to reside in Australia. No one ever heard of the internet apparently so hes free to pursue his hate against Western society through social media and membership of internet hate groups. Of course hes still attending the local Mosque preaching his virulent hated towards our society.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 27th, 2020 at 11:29pm

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:34pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:51pm:
The Saudis are giving the Indos megadollars to build radical Mosques and madrassas throughout the country in order to spread their version of Islamic culture, moderate Muslims are a dying breed. And I know a lot more Muslims than you do.


Really?  Well done.  So we need to counter the Saudi influence.  There are plenty of moderate, ordinary, everyday, Muslims, Rhino.  You need to find them, that's all.  They aren't invisible in Australia.  They aren't invisible in Indonesia or Malaysia, either.   ::) ::)


Its the Islamic culture that is the issue, not the religion itself. The Arabs would still be stoning people to death,  performing honour killings,  cutting female clits out regardless of Islam. But the 2 are inseparable, thats what you dont get. Any practising Muslim will take their direction and guidance from who they consider to be the source of Islam, and that is the radical fundamentalism in the Middle East, Western values are anathema to Middle Eastern Islamic culture. I do not understand this self loathing that comes from people like you who believe that Western values should be dictated to by Muslim immigrants to this country. I dont want to hear about your Muslim mate again, thats getting boring, Ive known and worked with hundreds if not thousands of Muslim people, no one gives a sh1t of this virtue signalling cr2p.


I am unsure why you attribute "self-loathing" to me, Rhino.  Sounds like classic case of projection to me.  I don't loath western culture, no do I worship it as apparently you and the Islamophobes do.  It is simply a culture, it has it's failings and it has it's successes.

Islam is a religion.  You seem to think that Saudi Arabia owns it.  I wonder why?  I've never met a Muslim who thinks much of the Saudi Arabians and their attitudes.  I suppose it takes all sorts.  It's rather like attributing Catholicism solely to Italians and Anglicanism solely to the English.  Islam is made up of a large number of cultures, all different to one another, just as Christianity is.   ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 27th, 2020 at 11:59pm
Well - let's make a pact to separate out the Islamists from the Islamics - anyone offering a sure fire way to sort 'em out..... or should we let Allah do it?

Sure, Brian etc - I would be offended if anyone took a chunk out of an Islamic I know and respect - but that is not addressing the issue. 

How do we sort them out?  Wait and see if they behead anyone or blow up some place or plot an attack?  OK - so when they are caught red-handed - why are they not deported?

That's the outright nutters sorted....

Now - how do we go about working out which of the remainder are off their tree - I mean apart from holding up placards about beheading and stuff....

Right - so that's the next lot sorted out - all ratbags who hold up violent placards are on the next boat to nowhere....

So - who's left?  Only the good Muslims and the deep underground ones.... so do you recommend  a pro-active or a reactive approach to handling the latter?  How do we ferret them out of their sea of fish?

Serious questions........

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 28th, 2020 at 12:03am

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:51pm:
Kind of strange but I appear to be the only one thinking that they shouldnt have revoked his citizenship. Just means he cant travel overseas without losing the right to reside in Australia. No one ever heard of the internet apparently so hes free to pursue his hate against Western society through social media and membership of internet hate groups. Of course hes still attending the local Mosque preaching his virulent hated towards our society.


Easy - we give him a free holiday in handcuffs and let him out - problem solved...

Sorry mat - this is a private party tonight.... you can't come back.....

.... a black stealth helicopter on darkest midnight still in Winter in Faroffistan, where the temperatures at night would freeze the balls off a pool table and the natives are less than hospitable to outlanders..... but we'll spare the three foot man-eating crabs that only come out on darkest midnight still in deep Winter in Faroffistan... if those decide to intervene it's not by our design..... we just put him where they are....

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 28th, 2020 at 12:33am
I can't find anywhere that says Christian or far right terrorism is more prevalent than Islamic terrorism

This is typical of what I've been reading in many articles .... 


Islamism, Lethality, and Goal/Organizational Structure

Scholars also argue that the dramatic increase of radical Islamist terrorism starting in the 1980s and 1990s has significantly contributed to the lethality of terrorist attacks perpetrated by religiously-oriented terrorist groups. 

And there is descriptive empirical evidence that Islamist terrorist groups are indeed more lethal. Over the period 1968 to 2005, Islamist groups were responsible for 93.6% of all terrorist attacks by religiously-oriented groups and were responsible for 86.9% of all casualties inflicted by religiously-oriented terrorist groups.



What we don't want is this vicious Islamic violence happening any more in Australia, somehow we've got to get rid of it altogether, but we won't get rid of it by tolerating it, that won't work because their violence stems from their bible, the Koran

The Christchurch event seems to have quietened muslims down a bit in Australia, there's not been an attack in Sydney or Melbourne for quite a while, so hopefully they've come to their senses and realized those possible retaliatory consequences, the only language they understand, will repeat, if they go killing people in the street again



Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gnads on Nov 28th, 2020 at 6:37am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:56pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 12:46pm:


There is no benefit [to ourselves] in arguing [debating] on contentious issues, with people [who you know], are liars and covenant breakers.

They will tell you any lie, while they will protest how trustworthy and faithful they are.


And your personal evidence of this, what exactly, Yadda?

You don't know any Muslims, personally, do you, Yadda?

You'd even cross the street rather than walk on the same side as a Muslim, now wouldn't you?  You have absolutely no experience of personal interaction with Muslim people, do you?

I have trusted my life to a Muslim and he has never betrayed me.  He was a good, honest mate.  I have studied with/worked with numerous other Muslims.  All have been good, honest people.  I don't doubt there are some dishonest Muslims around but I am yet to encounter on.  Inshalla.   ::) ::)


To quote one of their favourite insults -

"You dog".

Being "woke" again Bwian?

You've yet to encounter a dishonest Muslim personally?

But no doubt you haven't had your head in the sand in the cases that have made it into the public domain like this one ey?

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gnads on Nov 28th, 2020 at 6:53am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:53pm:

Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.


Really, where are these "traitors to civilisation"?  I can't see any one leaping to his defence.  As far as I am concerned, he has got what he deserves.  Shame it had to come from il Duce' Dutton.  Oh, well, I suppose like a broken two-bob watch, he's right at least twice a day.  What I am defending is ordinary, everyday, mainstream, moderate, Muslims that live down the Australian streets around you.  You know, the ones you condemn in your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


There's no such animal. ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gnads on Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:15am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:20pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 1:59pm:
Can anyone tell me exactly what has been achieved by cancelling his citizenship and issuing him with a PR visa?


Peter Dutton gets to engage in some chest beating?


That's about it. The visa he will be granted means he won't or can't be deported.

This bastard was supposed to be deported at least 3 times, he hasn't worked a day since he came here in 1989, he married an Australian muslim woman and they've had 7 children to cement his ability to stay, and then he plots to kill Australians(non Muslims).

He has still been teaching radical Jihad whilst in jail to those who will listen.

I say send him back to Algeria & if his family wish to go, them too....

I'm sure the authorities will have to keep a close watch on his children into the future.


Quote:
He arrived in Australia in May 1989 on a one-month visitor's permit, on which he twice gained extensions, and settled in the northern suburbs of Melbourne, an area with a large Muslim population. After his permit expired in 1990 he became a prohibited non-citizen, then spent the next six years fighting through the Immigration Review Tribunal appeals process, for the right to stay. During his hearings he told the tribunal of his "love of the Australian lifestyle".[1]

In 1992 Benbrika married a Lebanese woman who was an Australian citizen, with whom he had seven children.[2] He was granted Australian residence in 1996 and became a citizen in 1998, although he is reported to have retained his Algerian citizenship as well. He had been on government welfare benefits for some years and this has become a topic of debate.[3]

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gnads on Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:15am
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Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gnads on Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:20am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:12pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 9:53pm:

Bertie wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 7:52pm:
A convicted Muslim terrorist's falsely acquired Australian citizenship is cancelled - and all the traitors to civilisation spring up in his defence.

Nobody is surprised.


Really, where are these "traitors to civilisation"?  I can't see any one leaping to his defence.  As far as I am concerned, he has got what he deserves.  Shame it had to come from il Duce' Dutton.  Oh, well, I suppose like a broken two-bob watch, he's right at least twice a day.  What I am defending is ordinary, everyday, mainstream, moderate, Muslims that live down the Australian streets around you.  You know, the ones you condemn in your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


And?  Who isn't?  I don't see any comment other than against 'radical' types who advocate brutally violating others....


"Agatha" for one.  Soren for another.  Moses, Yadda, Bobby for three more.  Gnads, Rhino, others.  All mouth off about "Muslims" when they are actually attacking Islamists.  tsk, tsk.   ::)

Quote:
I've met some fine Muslims .... why is it that you feel the need to defend the unfine ones?


Where have EVER DONE THAT?  Graps. I have never defended "the unfine ones".  Perhaps you actually need new glasses and read what I do type?

[quote]
BTW - WHEN and WHERE did you put your life in the hands of a Muslim?


When I served in the Australian Army.  My best mate was named "Abdul" and he was Muslim.  His daughter a non-Muslim also served many years later.  I'd trust my life to either of them.  Abdul was a find, upstanding, honest man and a good Australian of Turkish descent.

[/quote]

Listen Woke Boy .... all Muslims are Islamists - if they're not then they aren't Muslims.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gnads on Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:25am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:22pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:13pm:
The thing is, I'll concede and bend the knee if anyone can prove that any other religion is taking out people like the slimers are.

Here's my entry again.
https://thereligionofpeace.com

Now raise me.


Christian terrorism

In the Name of the Father? Christian Militantism in Tripura, Northern Uganda, and Ambon

6 modern-day Christian terrorist groups our media conveniently ignores

Why a White Christian Isn't Called a Terrorist

christian terrorism

Seems to be plenty sites out there, if you go looking.  Have you gone looking or are you relying on others to do your research for you? ::) ::)


What?

Christians fighting back in Muslim majority countries after decades of constant attacks & persecution?

How dare they.  ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gnads on Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:41am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 11:29pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:34pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:51pm:
The Saudis are giving the Indos megadollars to build radical Mosques and madrassas throughout the country in order to spread their version of Islamic culture, moderate Muslims are a dying breed. And I know a lot more Muslims than you do.


Really?  Well done.  So we need to counter the Saudi influence.  There are plenty of moderate, ordinary, everyday, Muslims, Rhino.  You need to find them, that's all.  They aren't invisible in Australia.  They aren't invisible in Indonesia or Malaysia, either.   ::) ::)


Its the Islamic culture that is the issue, not the religion itself. The Arabs would still be stoning people to death,  performing honour killings,  cutting female clits out regardless of Islam. But the 2 are inseparable, thats what you dont get. Any practising Muslim will take their direction and guidance from who they consider to be the source of Islam, and that is the radical fundamentalism in the Middle East, Western values are anathema to Middle Eastern Islamic culture. I do not understand this self loathing that comes from people like you who believe that Western values should be dictated to by Muslim immigrants to this country. I dont want to hear about your Muslim mate again, thats getting boring, Ive known and worked with hundreds if not thousands of Muslim people, no one gives a sh1t of this virtue signalling cr2p.


I am unsure why you attribute "self-loathing" to me, Rhino.  Sounds like classic case of projection to me.  I don't loath western culture, no do I worship it as apparently you and the Islamophobes do.  It is simply a culture, it has it's failings and it has it's successes.

Islam is a religion.  You seem to think that Saudi Arabia owns it.  I wonder why?  I've never met a Muslim who thinks much of the Saudi Arabians and their attitudes.  I suppose it takes all sorts.  It's rather like attributing Catholicism solely to Italians and Anglicanism solely to the English.  Islam is made up of a large number of cultures, all different to one another, just as Christianity is.   ::)


Hows your history & geography?

Pretty piss poor by the sounds of it.

Now who founded Islam?

Where was it founded?

What is the ultimate pilgrimage a Muslim can take and to where?


Quote:
Although its roots go back further, scholars typically date the creation of Islam to the 7th century, making it the youngest of the major world religions. Islam started in Mecca, in modern-day Saudi Arabia, during the time of the prophet Muhammad's life


That's why the Saudis think their country is the home of Islam.

Because it is. ::)

btw how many time have you used your Islamaphobe quote in this thread?

Tsk tsk tsk oh dearie what a wanker.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 28th, 2020 at 4:58pm


Gnads, you really need to stop trolling.  Tsk, tsk.  You've more than likely never, ever met a Muslim in your life.  Such a silly sausage.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 28th, 2020 at 6:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 11:29pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:34pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:51pm:
The Saudis are giving the Indos megadollars to build radical Mosques and madrassas throughout the country in order to spread their version of Islamic culture, moderate Muslims are a dying breed. And I know a lot more Muslims than you do.


Really?  Well done.  So we need to counter the Saudi influence.  There are plenty of moderate, ordinary, everyday, Muslims, Rhino.  You need to find them, that's all.  They aren't invisible in Australia.  They aren't invisible in Indonesia or Malaysia, either.   ::) ::)


Its the Islamic culture that is the issue, not the religion itself. The Arabs would still be stoning people to death,  performing honour killings,  cutting female clits out regardless of Islam. But the 2 are inseparable, thats what you dont get. Any practising Muslim will take their direction and guidance from who they consider to be the source of Islam, and that is the radical fundamentalism in the Middle East, Western values are anathema to Middle Eastern Islamic culture. I do not understand this self loathing that comes from people like you who believe that Western values should be dictated to by Muslim immigrants to this country. I dont want to hear about your Muslim mate again, thats getting boring, Ive known and worked with hundreds if not thousands of Muslim people, no one gives a sh1t of this virtue signalling cr2p.


I am unsure why you attribute "self-loathing" to me, Rhino.  Sounds like classic case of projection to me.  I don't loath western culture, no do I worship it as apparently you and the Islamophobes do.  It is simply a culture, it has it's failings and it has it's successes.

Islam is a religion.  

Geez you can be dumb sometimes, ever heard of Islamic culture nitwit? You cannot divorce the religion from the culture just because you say so. heres some education for you.

Quote:
Islamic culture and Muslim culture refer to cultural practices common to historically Islamic people. The early forms of Muslim culture, from the Rashidun Caliphate to early Umayyad period and early Abbasid period, were predominantly Arab, Byzantine, Persian and Levantine. With the rapid expansion of the Islamic empires, Muslim culture has influenced and assimilated much from the Persian, Egyptian, Caucasian, Turkic, Mongol, Indian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Malay, Somali, Berber, Indonesian, and Moro cultures.

Islamic culture generally includes all the practices which have developed around the religion of Islam. There are variations in the application of Islamic beliefs in different cultures and traditions.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_culture

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:15pm

rhino wrote on Nov 28th, 2020 at 6:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 11:29pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:34pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:51pm:
The Saudis are giving the Indos megadollars to build radical Mosques and madrassas throughout the country in order to spread their version of Islamic culture, moderate Muslims are a dying breed. And I know a lot more Muslims than you do.


Really?  Well done.  So we need to counter the Saudi influence.  There are plenty of moderate, ordinary, everyday, Muslims, Rhino.  You need to find them, that's all.  They aren't invisible in Australia.  They aren't invisible in Indonesia or Malaysia, either.   ::) ::)


Its the Islamic culture that is the issue, not the religion itself. The Arabs would still be stoning people to death,  performing honour killings,  cutting female clits out regardless of Islam. But the 2 are inseparable, thats what you dont get. Any practising Muslim will take their direction and guidance from who they consider to be the source of Islam, and that is the radical fundamentalism in the Middle East, Western values are anathema to Middle Eastern Islamic culture. I do not understand this self loathing that comes from people like you who believe that Western values should be dictated to by Muslim immigrants to this country. I dont want to hear about your Muslim mate again, thats getting boring, Ive known and worked with hundreds if not thousands of Muslim people, no one gives a sh1t of this virtue signalling cr2p.


I am unsure why you attribute "self-loathing" to me, Rhino.  Sounds like classic case of projection to me.  I don't loath western culture, no do I worship it as apparently you and the Islamophobes do.  It is simply a culture, it has it's failings and it has it's successes.

Islam is a religion.  

Geez you can be dumb sometimes, ever heard of Islamic culture nitwit? You cannot divorce the religion from the culture just because you say so. heres some education for you.

Quote:
Islamic culture and Muslim culture refer to cultural practices common to historically Islamic people. The early forms of Muslim culture, from the Rashidun Caliphate to early Umayyad period and early Abbasid period, were predominantly Arab, Byzantine, Persian and Levantine. With the rapid expansion of the Islamic empires, Muslim culture has influenced and assimilated much from the Persian, Egyptian, Caucasian, Turkic, Mongol, Indian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Malay, Somali, Berber, Indonesian, and Moro cultures.

Islamic culture generally includes all the practices which have developed around the religion of Islam. There are variations in the application of Islamic beliefs in different cultures and traditions.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_culture


"Islamic Culture" is basically Saudi Arabian culture, Rhino.  It is practised only by the more staid and conservative of the Muslims in the world.  Outside of Saudi Arabia it exists only in the minds of some Muslims, not all Muslims.  Most Muslims practice their own culture, be it Indonesian, Philippino, Malaysian, Bangladeshi, India, Pakistani, Afghan, Tajikistani, Uzbeki or Syrian, Turkish, Lebanese, Egypt, Libyan, Tunisian, Moroccan, West African, Nigarian, etc.  All are very different from one another.  Don't they get a vote in what Islam is?   ::) ::) 

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:22pm
read the link idiot, you couldnt be more wrong. You really need to educate yourself beyond the "I once had a Muslim mate" because you are seriously embarrassing yourself here.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 28th, 2020 at 8:37pm

rhino wrote on Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:22pm:
read the link idiot, you couldnt be more wrong. You really need to educate yourself beyond the "I once had a Muslim mate" because you are seriously embarrassing yourself here.


Really?  Lets see what your source says that reinforces the points I have made, hey?


Quote:
Islamic culture and Muslim culture refer to cultural practices common to historically Islamic people. The early forms of Muslim culture, from the Rashidun Caliphate to early Umayyad period and early Abbasid period, were predominantly Arab, Byzantine, Persian and Levantine. With the rapid expansion of the Islamic empires, Muslim culture has influenced and assimilated much from the Persian, Egyptian, Caucasian, Turkic, Mongol, Indian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Malay, Somali, Berber, Indonesian, and Moro cultures.

Islamic culture generally includes all the practices which have developed around the religion of Islam. There are variations in the application of Islamic beliefs in different cultures and traditions.[1]


"Islamic culture" refers to the culture that "has influenced and assimilated much from the Persian, Egyptian, Caucasian, Turkic, Mongol, Indian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Malay, Somali, Berber, Indonesian, and Moro cultures."  This basically what I just said, Rhino.  "Islamic culture" is made up from various cultures.  It is not separate.  It is a part of the various cultures.

Further, "Islamic culture generally includes all the practices which have developed around the religion of Islam. There are variations in the application of Islamic beliefs in different cultures and traditions."  In other words, it overlays the underlying cultural practices of the society it is a part of.  Evangelising religions tend to do that.  It makes it easier for them to become a part of the underlying culture.  It does not replace it, it overlays it.

It appears that you are the one not understanding what he is talking about, Rhino.  Run along.  Get back to us with a bit more knowledge.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by rhino on Nov 28th, 2020 at 8:48pm
The term "Islamic culture" would not exist if it was not the one culture Brian. It is not part of different cultures as the link states , it takes elements from all those cultures. Educate yourself man ffs and stop trying to dig yourself out of the hole you put yourself in. You are looking increasingly embarrasingly stupid on this.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 28th, 2020 at 9:22pm
Deport all radicals, I say - let Allah sort it out for 'em!

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Captain Caveman on Nov 28th, 2020 at 11:38pm
Still nothing.  ;D ;D ;D
Pretty confident I won't be bending the knee anytime soon.

So that means slimers win the terror tally.
Hooray! 👏

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by cods on Nov 29th, 2020 at 6:42am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 28th, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Deport all radicals, I say - let Allah sort it out for 'em!



not sure we could deport this one...

https://www.9news.com.au/national/bundaberg-terror-plot-man-charged-planning-queensland-news/cdb53dfc-866d-4ff7-b777-f6f6242cb9ed

A man has been charged with plotting a terrorist attack in a coastal Queensland town.
Former journalist James Waugh is accused of planning a violent extremist attack in the coastal town of Bundaberg.
The 29-year-old Kepnock man was arrested by a Joint Counter Terror Team from the Australian Federal Police (AFP) and the Queensland Police yesterday.

He had been planning a terror act in the Bundaberg region and had sought firearms training, investigators allege.
The investigation into Mr Waugh was sparked after he allegedly made threats towards a member of the public last month.
He has been charged with one count of acts done in preparation for, or planning, terrorist acts.
If found guilty, he faces a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.

A property in Kepnock was raided on November 3 and a number of electronic devices and a notebook were seized by police.
It was alleged in court that the electronic devices contained documents indicating a desire to undertake acts of violent extremism.
The AFP's Assistant Commissioner Counter Terrorism, Scott Lee, said investigators worked quickly to prevent a terror act.
"The investigation highlights the professionalism and dedication of the individuals and agencies involved in the JCTT, and their commitment to bringing people to account for their criminal actions," he said.
Mr Waugh's defence team didn't apply for bail and his matter will be heard again next month.



he looks just like anyone else..

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gnads on Nov 29th, 2020 at 6:44am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28th, 2020 at 4:58pm:


Gnads, you really need to stop trolling.  Tsk, tsk.  You've more than likely never, ever met a Muslim in your life.  Such a silly sausage.   ::) ::)


You say that to everyone who doesn't agree with your rose coloured view.

There were plenty of Muslims like your mate Abdul - they didn't dress in kaftans & teacosy hats, have beards & live & enclaves and expect everything to be labelled and halal certified because they don't know what's halal or haram.

They weren't calling for acceptance of Sharia Law, Courts and polygamy for Muslim males.

However Muslims like him have been swamped by others and they don't speak out against them.

And it takes a troll to know one ey? ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gnads on Nov 29th, 2020 at 6:54am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:15pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 28th, 2020 at 6:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 11:29pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:34pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:51pm:
The Saudis are giving the Indos megadollars to build radical Mosques and madrassas throughout the country in order to spread their version of Islamic culture, moderate Muslims are a dying breed. And I know a lot more Muslims than you do.


Really?  Well done.  So we need to counter the Saudi influence.  There are plenty of moderate, ordinary, everyday, Muslims, Rhino.  You need to find them, that's all.  They aren't invisible in Australia.  They aren't invisible in Indonesia or Malaysia, either.   ::) ::)


Its the Islamic culture that is the issue, not the religion itself. The Arabs would still be stoning people to death,  performing honour killings,  cutting female clits out regardless of Islam. But the 2 are inseparable, thats what you dont get. Any practising Muslim will take their direction and guidance from who they consider to be the source of Islam, and that is the radical fundamentalism in the Middle East, Western values are anathema to Middle Eastern Islamic culture. I do not understand this self loathing that comes from people like you who believe that Western values should be dictated to by Muslim immigrants to this country. I dont want to hear about your Muslim mate again, thats getting boring, Ive known and worked with hundreds if not thousands of Muslim people, no one gives a sh1t of this virtue signalling cr2p.


I am unsure why you attribute "self-loathing" to me, Rhino.  Sounds like classic case of projection to me.  I don't loath western culture, no do I worship it as apparently you and the Islamophobes do.  It is simply a culture, it has it's failings and it has it's successes.

Islam is a religion.  

Geez you can be dumb sometimes, ever heard of Islamic culture nitwit? You cannot divorce the religion from the culture just because you say so. heres some education for you.

Quote:
Islamic culture and Muslim culture refer to cultural practices common to historically Islamic people. The early forms of Muslim culture, from the Rashidun Caliphate to early Umayyad period and early Abbasid period, were predominantly Arab, Byzantine, Persian and Levantine. With the rapid expansion of the Islamic empires, Muslim culture has influenced and assimilated much from the Persian, Egyptian, Caucasian, Turkic, Mongol, Indian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Malay, Somali, Berber, Indonesian, and Moro cultures.

Islamic culture generally includes all the practices which have developed around the religion of Islam. There are variations in the application of Islamic beliefs in different cultures and traditions.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_culture


"Islamic Culture" is basically Saudi Arabian culture, Rhino.  It is practised only by the more staid and conservative of the Muslims in the world.  Outside of Saudi Arabia it exists only in the minds of some Muslims, not all Muslims.  Most Muslims practice their own culture, be it Indonesian, Philippino, Malaysian, Bangladeshi, India, Pakistani, Afghan, Tajikistani, Uzbeki or Syrian, Turkish, Lebanese, Egypt, Libyan, Tunisian, Moroccan, West African, Nigarian, etc.  All are very different from one another.  Don't they get a vote in what Islam is?   ::) ::) 


Where's the culture of any of the Islamic majority countries when they introduce Sharia Law?

You speak through your backside.

Rome/the Vatican is the home of the Catholic religion & from where it is controlled ..... Catholicism the world over follows the same doctrine regardless of race or culture.

Islam does also - Saudi Arabia is it's VATICAN ....

it seems Mecca & the Hajj have some other significance & geographical location in your mind.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gnads on Nov 29th, 2020 at 6:55am
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Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Gnads on Nov 29th, 2020 at 7:10am

cods wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 6:42am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 28th, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Deport all radicals, I say - let Allah sort it out for 'em!



not sure we could deport this one...

https://www.9news.com.au/national/bundaberg-terror-plot-man-charged-planning-queensland-news/cdb53dfc-866d-4ff7-b777-f6f6242cb9ed

A man has been charged with plotting a terrorist attack in a coastal Queensland town.
Former journalist James Waugh is accused of planning a violent extremist attack in the coastal town of Bundaberg.
The 29-year-old Kepnock man was arrested by a Joint Counter Terror Team from the Australian Federal Police (AFP) and the Queensland Police yesterday.

He had been planning a terror act in the Bundaberg region and had sought firearms training, investigators allege.
The investigation into Mr Waugh was sparked after he allegedly made threats towards a member of the public last month.
He has been charged with one count of acts done in preparation for, or planning, terrorist acts.
If found guilty, he faces a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.

A property in Kepnock was raided on November 3 and a number of electronic devices and a notebook were seized by police.
It was alleged in court that the electronic devices contained documents indicating a desire to undertake acts of violent extremism.
The AFP's Assistant Commissioner Counter Terrorism, Scott Lee, said investigators worked quickly to prevent a terror act.
"The investigation highlights the professionalism and dedication of the individuals and agencies involved in the JCTT, and their commitment to bringing people to account for their criminal actions," he said.
Mr Waugh's defence team didn't apply for bail and his matter will be heard again next month.



he looks just like anyone else..


Well that's because he's a convert to Islam ...

converts always try harder to prove themselves dedicated followers.

He's a former ABC journalist  :o who is supposed to be very intelligent ......

seems maybe not intelligent enough.

And of course he has mental illness(must be a pre-requisite) and his Mum thinks he's innocent.

He was actually arrested a couple of weeks ago.

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Frank on Nov 29th, 2020 at 8:25pm
Ki
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:15pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 28th, 2020 at 6:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 11:29pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:34pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:51pm:
The Saudis are giving the Indos megadollars to build radical Mosques and madrassas throughout the country in order to spread their version of Islamic culture, moderate Muslims are a dying breed. And I know a lot more Muslims than you do.


Really?  Well done.  So we need to counter the Saudi influence.  There are plenty of moderate, ordinary, everyday, Muslims, Rhino.  You need to find them, that's all.  They aren't invisible in Australia.  They aren't invisible in Indonesia or Malaysia, either.   ::) ::)


Its the Islamic culture that is the issue, not the religion itself. The Arabs would still be stoning people to death,  performing honour killings,  cutting female clits out regardless of Islam. But the 2 are inseparable, thats what you dont get. Any practising Muslim will take their direction and guidance from who they consider to be the source of Islam, and that is the radical fundamentalism in the Middle East, Western values are anathema to Middle Eastern Islamic culture. I do not understand this self loathing that comes from people like you who believe that Western values should be dictated to by Muslim immigrants to this country. I dont want to hear about your Muslim mate again, thats getting boring, Ive known and worked with hundreds if not thousands of Muslim people, no one gives a sh1t of this virtue signalling cr2p.


I am unsure why you attribute "self-loathing" to me, Rhino.  Sounds like classic case of projection to me.  I don't loath western culture, no do I worship it as apparently you and the Islamophobes do.  It is simply a culture, it has it's failings and it has it's successes.

Islam is a religion.  

Geez you can be dumb sometimes, ever heard of Islamic culture nitwit? You cannot divorce the religion from the culture just because you say so. heres some education for you.

Quote:
Islamic culture and Muslim culture refer to cultural practices common to historically Islamic people. The early forms of Muslim culture, from the Rashidun Caliphate to early Umayyad period and early Abbasid period, were predominantly Arab, Byzantine, Persian and Levantine. With the rapid expansion of the Islamic empires, Muslim culture has influenced and assimilated much from the Persian, Egyptian, Caucasian, Turkic, Mongol, Indian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Malay, Somali, Berber, Indonesian, and Moro cultures.

Islamic culture generally includes all the practices which have developed around the religion of Islam. There are variations in the application of Islamic beliefs in different cultures and traditions.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_culture


"Islamic Culture" is basically Saudi Arabian culture, Rhino.  It is practised only by the more staid and conservative of the Muslims in the world.  Outside of Saudi Arabia it exists only in the minds of some Muslims, not all Muslims.  Most Muslims practice their own culture, be it Indonesian, Philippino, Malaysian, Bangladeshi, India, Pakistani, Afghan, Tajikistani, Uzbeki or Syrian, Turkish, Lebanese, Egypt, Libyan, Tunisian, Moroccan, West African, Nigarian, etc.  All are very different from one another.  Don't they get a vote in what Islam is?   ::) ::) 

So the Koran and Mohammed have nuffin to do wiv nuffin.

Gawd you are an idiot.


Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 29th, 2020 at 10:48pm

Frank wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 8:25pm:
Ki
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:15pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 28th, 2020 at 6:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 11:29pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 9:34pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 7:51pm:
The Saudis are giving the Indos megadollars to build radical Mosques and madrassas throughout the country in order to spread their version of Islamic culture, moderate Muslims are a dying breed. And I know a lot more Muslims than you do.


Really?  Well done.  So we need to counter the Saudi influence.  There are plenty of moderate, ordinary, everyday, Muslims, Rhino.  You need to find them, that's all.  They aren't invisible in Australia.  They aren't invisible in Indonesia or Malaysia, either.   ::) ::)


Its the Islamic culture that is the issue, not the religion itself. The Arabs would still be stoning people to death,  performing honour killings,  cutting female clits out regardless of Islam. But the 2 are inseparable, thats what you dont get. Any practising Muslim will take their direction and guidance from who they consider to be the source of Islam, and that is the radical fundamentalism in the Middle East, Western values are anathema to Middle Eastern Islamic culture. I do not understand this self loathing that comes from people like you who believe that Western values should be dictated to by Muslim immigrants to this country. I dont want to hear about your Muslim mate again, thats getting boring, Ive known and worked with hundreds if not thousands of Muslim people, no one gives a sh1t of this virtue signalling cr2p.


I am unsure why you attribute "self-loathing" to me, Rhino.  Sounds like classic case of projection to me.  I don't loath western culture, no do I worship it as apparently you and the Islamophobes do.  It is simply a culture, it has it's failings and it has it's successes.

Islam is a religion.  

Geez you can be dumb sometimes, ever heard of Islamic culture nitwit? You cannot divorce the religion from the culture just because you say so. heres some education for you.

Quote:
Islamic culture and Muslim culture refer to cultural practices common to historically Islamic people. The early forms of Muslim culture, from the Rashidun Caliphate to early Umayyad period and early Abbasid period, were predominantly Arab, Byzantine, Persian and Levantine. With the rapid expansion of the Islamic empires, Muslim culture has influenced and assimilated much from the Persian, Egyptian, Caucasian, Turkic, Mongol, Indian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Malay, Somali, Berber, Indonesian, and Moro cultures.

Islamic culture generally includes all the practices which have developed around the religion of Islam. There are variations in the application of Islamic beliefs in different cultures and traditions.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_culture


"Islamic Culture" is basically Saudi Arabian culture, Rhino.  It is practised only by the more staid and conservative of the Muslims in the world.  Outside of Saudi Arabia it exists only in the minds of some Muslims, not all Muslims.  Most Muslims practice their own culture, be it Indonesian, Philippino, Malaysian, Bangladeshi, India, Pakistani, Afghan, Tajikistani, Uzbeki or Syrian, Turkish, Lebanese, Egypt, Libyan, Tunisian, Moroccan, West African, Nigarian, etc.  All are very different from one another.  Don't they get a vote in what Islam is?   ::) ::) 

So the Koran and Mohammed have nuffin to do wiv nuffin.

Gawd you are an idiot.


Anything valuable to add to the thread, Soren?  Anything at all?  No, it doesn't appear so.  What a WOFTAM you are.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Valkie on Nov 30th, 2020 at 7:24am

Quote:
Islam is a religion.    


NO ITS NOT

Its a cult.

it fits all the markers of a cult in every aspect.

DEVILS CULT, THE CULT OF DEATH AND DECEPTION

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 30th, 2020 at 7:42am
Bring Our Boys Home and Send Their Boys Home!!

Simple - easy as falling off a log.... if they can't behave, separate the recalcitrants...

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 30th, 2020 at 7:59am
Downe at Ye Olde Government Minister Presse Chate:-

"Look - we know we f*cked it - our immigration ideas, if you could call it that, were wrong from the start, and all the corollary sh!t about using division and constant turmoil to establish control over our own population was always wrong, wrong, wrong!  We were wrong to bring all those people in who have no intention of ever being part of Australia and contributing positively - and we knew when we started that many of them were just borderline or actual criminals who would ruin the social fabric of this once great nation.  We were blinded by the silly rhetoric of such places as the UN, and then by the Delphic Oracular utterances of the high priestesses of 'social science' who assured us that all humans were equal and that they would all settle down around a fire and sing Kumbaya all night....

Well - we were wrong, and we heartily apologise to the Australian public and will set about rectifying our past mistakes by initially setting in place a solid vetting process with hard rules and teeth, which will weed out those who are a problem, and then shipping them all back where they came from or to that rat-hole to which they feel such an attachment.  Once we have settled on ONLY the worthy ones who will be a positive part of this nation - then we can move on to de-establishing the feminist rot and all the other rots, such as the current 'industrial relations', that we have set in place for some strange lack of reasoning and in a rather puerile attempt to smash Australian men into line and give the government the 'right'- which it could never hold in reality - to attack and bash them down into submission.

We have betrayed democracy and our oath of office, and how we, the political class, ever arrived at some of the insanities we have introduced into this nation, well - let's be honest - nobody really knows how anyone could have done what has been done for forty years.... and now we, that same political class, promise a whole new deal and a fair deal for ALL equally for a change - and we promise to rid OUR society and culture of all those verminous influences that have brought it to its knees.


Brought to you by Honest Government....

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Valkie on Nov 30th, 2020 at 10:37am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 30th, 2020 at 7:59am:
Downe at Ye Olde Government Minister Presse Chate:-

"Look - we know we f*cked it - our immigration ideas, if you could call it that, were wrong from the start, and all the corollary sh!t about using division and constant turmoil to establish control over our own population was always wrong, wrong, wrong!  We were wrong to bring all those people in who have no intention of ever being part of Australia and contributing positively - and we knew when we started that many of them were just borderline or actual criminals who would ruin the social fabric of this once great nation.  We were blinded by the silly rhetoric of such places as the UN, and then by the Delphic Oracular utterances of the high priestesses of 'social science' who assured us that all humans were equal and that they would all settle down around a fire and sing Kumbaya all night....

Well - we were wrong, and we heartily apologise to the Australian public and will set about rectifying our past mistakes by initially setting in place a solid vetting process with hard rules and teeth, which will weed out those who are a problem, and then shipping them all back where they came from or to that rat-hole to which they feel such an attachment.  Once we have settled on ONLY the worthy ones who will be a positive part of this nation - then we can move on to de-establishing the feminist rot and all the other rots, such as the current 'industrial relations', that we have set in place for some strange lack of reasoning and in a rather puerile attempt to smash Australian men into line and give the government the 'right'- which it could never hold in reality - to attack and bash them down into submission.

We have betrayed democracy and our oath of office, and how we, the political class, ever arrived at some of the insanities we have introduced into this nation, well - let's be honest - nobody really knows how anyone could have done what has been done for forty years.... and now we, that same political class, promise a whole new deal and a fair deal for ALL equally for a change - and we promise to rid OUR society and culture of all those verminous influences that have brought it to its knees.


Brought to you by Honest Government....


If only that happened.

If only we could recover from the stupidity that masquerades as politics today.

Bring back common sense and be rid of the 3% who want to rule the honest, working, normal, mentally healthy 97%

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 30th, 2020 at 10:44am

Valkie wrote on Nov 30th, 2020 at 7:24am:

Quote:
Islam is a religion.    


NO ITS NOT

Its a cult.

it fits all the markers of a cult in every aspect.

DEVILS CULT, THE CULT OF DEATH AND DECEPTION


Some sects of islam are cults. Some sects of xtianity are cults too. Also hinduism etc.

Those prosperity gospel xtian nuts are the most dangerous cult in the world atm

Spot

Title: Re: Citizenship REVOKED
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 30th, 2020 at 10:49am
Depends on your perspective - in a global sense Christianity is a sect, and nothing more....no religion is definitive and covers all the people on Earth.

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