https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/jacinta-price-slams-markle-blms-false-narrative-and-indigenous-oversights/news-story/ff0c0fa0e870f3b8cbb5ec8e85ee0fae

Days after Meghan Markle spoke out for Black Lives Matter, Jacinta Nampijinpa Price was visiting an Indigenous relative who had been bashed into a coma by her Indigenous partner.

“Black Lives Matter continues to push a false narrative,” Alice Springs councillor Ms Price said. “There are a lot of people with a lot of goodwill who think by jumping on the bandwagon they are supporting Aboriginal Australians but they are doing the exact opposite.”

Just after Ms Markle, the high-profile wife of Prince Harry, urged people from her $11 million Californian mansion to be a “little uncomfortable” in tackling racism, Ms Price was consoling her relative over the latest in a string of violent family confrontations.

“He was driving her around while she was unconscious when he was fortunately stopped by police for a vehicle inspection and they found her,” Ms Price said.

At the same time police in Alice Springs were searching for an Indigenous woman believed to have been abducted by her partner and arresting the partner of another who had bitten off her thumb.

But Ms Price said there was no outcry when the perpetrator is also black. “There is no interest in learning the truth. Aboriginal people are dying at a far greater rate at the hands of other Aboriginal people — that is something this movement is not interested in,” she said.

The latest Australian Institute of Criminology statistics show that 70 per cent of the 765 homicides in the 22 years to 2012 involving an Indigenous person were also committed by an Indigenous person.

“I have seen people in my family murdered,” Ms Price said. “(One) was stabbed to death in a town camp by her ex 10 years ago.

“(Another) was killed in a car crash. She was a passenger in the car when the driver was punched in the back of the head by her drunk husband.”

Ms Price’s lived experience, including an aunt missing — believed killed by a relative four decades ago — is in direct contrast to the experience of many Black Lives Matter supporters, including Ms Markle.

She is a woman of great privilege who is completely removed from reality and circumstances on the ground,” Ms Price said. “Her lending her voice to the Black Lives Matter movement is silencing the voices of those people in the communities who are vulnerable to black on black gang violence.”

In America the vocal protests in the wake of George Floyd’s death after being pinned by the neck by a white police officer have led to calls to defund police forces. In New York a $1 billion police budget cut has seen shootings double. Most of the victims are black.

“It is ridiculous to think that you would defund the police when the most vulnerable members of society are the African American people. Who is going in to help them if not the police,” said Ms Price, who is director of Indigenous studies at The Centre for Independent Studies.

She said similar calls in Australia are “destroying our relationship with authority. It is Aboriginal women and children who are suffering the most in this nation because of sexual abuse and family violence – they need the support of the police and authorities. That relationship needs to be repaired, not torn down.”

Ms Price said progress already made was at risk.

“Black Lives Matter is creating a racial divide in our nation.

“I think we have come a hell of a long way to close that divide. Our entire nation has done everything we can to bring people together and this movement will undo that.”

She said the movement’s “Marxist cancel culture narrative is shutting down our voices.

“If a white person does not agree they are called a racist. When I bring these issues up I am called a race traitor.”


this lady should be in Parliament..

Watch the rent a mob BLM idiots attack her for telling the truth.

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cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 2:54pm:

this lady should be in Parliament..

She's running as a Country Liberal in the upcoming election, isn't she?

Her mother was a NT Government Minister.

they appear to be all the same worldwide.... if they dont talk about it..

it isnt happening...

maybe BLM stand for

B.Black
L lies
M matter...

bury your head in the sand  mob....

Jacinta is one tough lady...not only battling the lefties  but the weak kneed righties as well.....[call them do-gooders... the look at MEEEEE crowd.]

they want whitey to own their faults  even the ones they didnt commit....

but try to get them to take a good hard look at themselves........ ::) ::) ::)

and thats right get called a racist.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 3:09pm:

cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 2:54pm: this lady should be in Parliament.. She's running as a Country Liberal in the upcoming election, isn't she? Her mother was a NT Government Minister.

I do not know.. but thats where she should be...

very honest not many like honesty..but I do.

I have read a lot of what she has to say on facebook.

She is a councilor in Alice Springs and I hope she gets heard more and more because to me she seems to be a sensible young woman.

Rosie wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 3:52pm:

I have read a lot of what she has to say on facebook. She is a councilor in Alice Springs and I hope she gets heard more and more because to me she seems to be a sensible young woman.

Her association with the Country Liberal Party has me doubting that very much.

"No one with a revulsion for the influence of the alt-right or neo-Nazis in our body politic would be surprised to learn that an aspiring Aboriginal candidate for the House of Representatives could graduate from the role of children’s entertainer “Yamba the Honey Ant” to darling of the Country Liberal Party and the federal Coalition.

"Still, the average pundit would not be aware that the majority of this person’s social media followers are the rabid racists who claim to support a pro-Aboriginal cause by backing the aspirant’s bizarre political agenda."

The folly of Jacinta Price

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 3:57pm:

Rosie wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 3:52pm: I have read a lot of what she has to say on facebook. She is a councilor in Alice Springs and I hope she gets heard more and more because to me she seems to be a sensible young woman. Her association with the Country Liberal Party has me doubting that very much.

greggerypeccary that's the difference between you and me.  I look at what someone has to say not what party they belong to.

If, and I wouldn't mind betting that's a big if, you are on facebook go take a look at what she has to say before making judgement

Rosie wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 4:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 3:57pm: Rosie wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 3:52pm: I have read a lot of what she has to say on facebook. She is a councilor in Alice Springs and I hope she gets heard more and more because to me she seems to be a sensible young woman. Her association with the Country Liberal Party has me doubting that very much. greggerypeccary that's the difference between you and me.  I look at what someone has to say not what party they belong to. If, and I wouldn't mind betting that's a big if, you are on facebook go take a look at what she has to say before making judgement

Belonging to the Country Liberal Party is a good indication that she isn't as sensible as you think.

And no, I don't do Facebook - I would encourage everyone to avoid it like ... well, like the plague.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 4:22pm:

Rosie wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 4:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 3:57pm: Rosie wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 3:52pm: I have read a lot of what she has to say on facebook. She is a councilor in Alice Springs and I hope she gets heard more and more because to me she seems to be a sensible young woman. Her association with the Country Liberal Party has me doubting that very much. greggerypeccary that's the difference between you and me.  I look at what someone has to say not what party they belong to. If, and I wouldn't mind betting that's a big if, you are on facebook go take a look at what she has to say before making judgement Belonging to the Country Liberal Party is a good indication that she isn't as sensible as you think. And no, I don't do Facebook - I would encourage everyone to avoid it like ... well, like the plague.

over 50 % of people get most of their news from social media.
facebook with 1.9 billion daily users is followed by youtube with 500 million daily users and twitter with 200 million.

joe rogan, whose average podcast lasts 2 hours has over a 2 billion downloads a year.  making him the most far reaching media personality to ever live.

in the future there will be people who master social media and then there will be people who dont (who we will refer to as failures).

another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM.

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 5:12pm:

another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM.

Black Lives is a catch-all sneaky attempt  to smear white people and to put about the canard of 'systemic wacism' so people DON"T look at black responsibility for they criminality and self-inflicted disadvantage, but only what they want to pin on whites.  BLM is the March of the Morons.  It flares up every few years and fizzles out because if blacks don't help themselves, nobody can help them.

BLM is buck passing and arse covering. That's why you snarl at a black woman who proposes that blacks should take some responsibility for their own predicament. And that BLM is supported mostly by thick, ignorant faceless white thugs is not a surprise either, That you'd volunteer to be one of them was always inevitable.


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Rosie wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 3:52pm:

I have read a lot of what she has to say on facebook. She is a councilor in Alice Springs and I hope she gets heard more and more because to me she seems to be a sensible young woman.

She goes against the narrative lefties like to construct so they don't think her views are valid despite the fact she is aboriginal.


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Alice Springs Town Councillor, Director of Indigenous Research @ the Centre for Independent Studies and campaigner against family violence & child sexual abuse.

Her twitter account- https://twitter.com/JNampijinpa

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 4:22pm:

Rosie wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 4:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 3:57pm: Rosie wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 3:52pm: I have read a lot of what she has to say on facebook. She is a councilor in Alice Springs and I hope she gets heard more and more because to me she seems to be a sensible young woman. Her association with the Country Liberal Party has me doubting that very much. greggerypeccary that's the difference between you and me.  I look at what someone has to say not what party they belong to. If, and I wouldn't mind betting that's a big if, you are on facebook go take a look at what she has to say before making judgement Belonging to the Country Liberal Party is a good indication that she isn't as sensible as you think. And no, I don't do Facebook - I would encourage everyone to avoid it like ... well, like the plague.

get your head out of your bum greg..she is with them because they want the Aboriginal community to stand up for itself  to stop passing the buck and living in the past   she know the LEFT want to keep babying them making them dependent on welfare.......and not answerable for their own mistakes..

this young women is saying what a lot of white people have said for a long time...

you enjoy seeing them flapping around drunk or drugged   it makes you feel all warm and cosy when you give them another $10 a week to spend..........we KNOW????>.. >:( >:( >:( >:(


thats why you are busy deflecting.....not one word on how much sense she makes.

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 5:12pm:

another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM.

and YOU HAVE?  being a blackman makes you an expert does it?????>.


at least she is BLACK>.and she lives in their community more than you do...I think I know who the moronic one is.. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

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Frank wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 6:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:12pm: another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM. Black Lives is a catch-all sneaky attempt  to smear white people and to put about the canard of 'systemic wacism' so people DON"T look at black responsibility for they criminality and self-inflicted disadvantage, but only what they want to pin on whites.  BLM is the March of the Morons.  It flares up every few years and fizzles out because if blacks don't help themselves, nobody can help them. BLM is buck passing and arse covering. That's why you snarl at a black woman who proposes that blacks should take some responsibility for their own predicament. And that BLM is supported mostly by thick, ignorant faceless white thugs is not a surprise either, That you'd volunteer to be one of them was always inevitable. .

and here is a perfect example of someone who hasn't a clue, just to prove what i said above in the highlighted section.

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 7:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:12pm: another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM. and YOU HAVE?  being a blackman makes you an expert does it?????>. at least she is BLACK>.and she lives in their community more than you do...I think I know who the moronic one is.. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

no cods, being black doesn't make you an expert... You either understand it, or you don't. You, quite clearly, do not.

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 7:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:12pm: another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM. and YOU HAVE?  being a blackman makes you an expert does it?????>. at least she is BLACK>.and she lives in their community more than you do...I think I know who the moronic one is.. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

What do the lefties have to say about this, does BLM not apply when blacks are killing blacks?

Why do our Aborigines have a 5 times higher offender and victim rate compared to white Australians?


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Indigenous and non-Indigenous homicide in Australia Indigenous people (Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander Australians) are disproportionately victims and offenders in homicide incidents both in relation to their relative proportion of the Australian population and in comparison with their non-Indigenous counterparts. In 2011–12, Indigenous people comprised three percent of the Australian population (ABS 2009; ABS 2012) yet constituted 13 percent of homicide victims (n=35) and 11 percent of homicide offenders (n=32; Bryant & Cussen 2015). The rate of both victimisation and offending by Indigenous people was approximately five times higher than that of non-Indigenous people (Bryant & Cussen 2015). A previous comparative analysis of Indigenous and non-Indigenous homicides in Australia (Mouzos 2001) also identified that the majority of Indigenous homicides occurred between family members in the context of domestic conflict. More here- https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/rip/rip37#:~:text=Over%20this%20time%20period%2C%20the,or%2016%25%20were%20Indigenous).

Hats off to Jacinta, an Alice Springs mayor right in the thick if thing, that's one Abbo that should be in parliament representing the Australian community.

Whenever we have situations like this people always bring up black on black crime. They do the same in America.

Raven would argue that there is no such thing as black on black crime.

The reason being we don’t use the term for white on white crime or Asian on Asian crime, or in the USA Mexican on Mexican crime.

The only reason we use it is to divert attention away from white racism. Most crime is committed within the race. That has more to do with proximity than anything else.

So it should be no surprise that the majority of Aboriginal victims involve an Aboriginal perpetrator.

But the point of a movement like BLM is to show how the justice system is failing Aboriginal people.

For example: Police in New South Wales pursue more than 80% of Indigenous people found with small amounts of cannabis through the courts while letting others off with warnings, forcing young Aboriginal people into a criminal justice system that legal experts say “they will potentially never get out of”.

Between 2013 and 2017 the police disproportionately used the justice system to prosecute Indigenous people, despite the existence of a specific cautioning scheme introduced to keep minor drug offences out of the courts.

During the five year period, 82.55% of all Indigenous people found with a non-indictable quantity of cannabis were pursued through the courts, compared with only 52.29% for the non-Indigenous population, the data compiled by the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research shows.

The data shows police were four times more likely to issue cautions to non-Indigenous people. In the five years to 2017, only 11.41% of Indigenous Australians caught by police with small amounts of cannabis were issued cautions, compared with 40.03% of the non-Indigenous population.

In Western Australia back in April, an 86 year old Aboriginal grandmother with dementia was sent to prison for 6 days for spraying her neighbour with a hose.

Despite having a near spotless record (she had a misconduct restraining order after she damaged the neighbour’s plants and a stealing charge from 1984) the court considered her a “schedule two” offender because she hosed down the neighbour whilst on bail for the damage of the plants.

The grandmother was denied bail at Rockingham Magistrate's Court by Magistrate Leanne Atkins on April 30 and she was remanded in the Melaleuca maximum security prison for eight days.

Although the woman requested a lawyer for the hearing, Legal Aid's duty lawyers are only available every second day at the Rockingham court, so she was forced to represent herself after the court refused to adjourn the matter to the following day.

When asked if she understood the charges laid out against her, she repeatedly told the court 'No.'

She was freed after 6 days when Legal Aid applied for a second bail hearing in the Supreme Court.

Supreme Court Judge Joseph McGrath ruled that given the exceptional circumstances another bail hearing must be set immediately.

Fortunately common sense prevailed and she was found 'unfit to plead' because of neurodegenerative Alzheimer's disease and was released without a conviction recorded.

Even the victim did not oppose the ruling.

WA Attorney General John Quigley said he suspects the incident never would have happened if the elderly woman was white.

‘I am deeply concerned that a woman in her 80s with dementia was held in prison cells for almost a week without the option of bail,' he told the West Australian.

'I have to ask myself whether an elderly white woman with dementia in a wealthy suburb would have found herself in prison in such circumstances.

'We need to ensure our state is not jailing Aboriginal people needlessly, particularly those who are vulnerable.'

Further in WA, Police acknowledged a ‘wide and potentially damaging divide’ exists between Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal drivers when comparing the impact of police traffic enforcement, in an internal police briefing note.

In 2018 in the Northern Territory 100% of children in custody were Aboriginal.

Chief Justice Martin of the WA Supreme Court commented on structural bias.

He noted there was 'systemic discrimination' which contributes to the overrepresentation of Indigenous people in incarceration:

“ The system itself must take part of the blame. Aboriginal people are much more likely to be questioned by police than non-Aboriginal people. When questioned they are more likely to be arrested rather than proceeded against by summons. If they are arrested, Aboriginal people are much more likely to be remanded in custody than given bail. Aboriginal people are much more likely to plead guilty than go to trial, and if they go to trial, they are much more likely to be convicted. If Aboriginal people are convicted, they are much more likely to be imprisoned than non-Aboriginal people, and at the end of their term of imprisonment they are much less likely to get parole than non-Aboriginal people. Aboriginal people are also significantly over-represented amongst those who are detained indefinitely under the Dangerous Sexual Offenders legislation. So at every single step in the criminal justice process, Aboriginal people fare worse than non-Aboriginal people.” Chapter 5.39 Reasons for high Indigenous imprisonment rates - Parliament of Australia

To dismiss a movement like BLM because they don’t highlight the crimes committed against a person by a member of their race, not only misses the point but shows an inherent bias within us.

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 7:55pm:

cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 7:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:12pm: another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM. and YOU HAVE?  being a blackman makes you an expert does it?????>. at least she is BLACK>.and she lives in their community more than you do...I think I know who the moronic one is.. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( no cods, being black doesn't make you an expert... You either understand it, or you don't. You, quite clearly, do not.

coming from you thats a compliment....if thats your understanding then I am glad we are on opposite sides...

nothing  quite like misguided sympathy which most lefties have.. ::) ::)

and this young women is clearly against..so good on her I say.

Raven wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 10:09pm:

To dismiss a movement like BLM because they don’t highlight the crimes committed against a person by a member of their race, not only misses the point but shows an inherent bias within us.

so you believe in it 100% good for you   to me its got not a thing to do with George  anymore its all about MEEEEEE..... if thats your idea of making changes I feel sorry for you all it does is put the other half of the populations backs up. >:( >:(

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 11:12pm:

Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 10:09pm: To dismiss a movement like BLM because they don’t highlight the crimes committed against a person by a member of their race, not only misses the point but shows an inherent bias within us. so you believe in it 100% good for you   to me its got not a thing to do with George  anymore its all about MEEEEEE..... if thats your idea of making changes I feel sorry for you all it does is put the other half of the populations backs up. >:( >:(

Nothing in Raven’s posts suggested he believes in it 100%. Your outrage is disingenuous.

Raven wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 11:16pm:

cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 11:12pm: Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 10:09pm: To dismiss a movement like BLM because they don’t highlight the crimes committed against a person by a member of their race, not only misses the point but shows an inherent bias within us. so you believe in it 100% good for you   to me its got not a thing to do with George  anymore its all about MEEEEEE..... if thats your idea of making changes I feel sorry for you all it does is put the other half of the populations backs up. >:( >:( Nothing in Raven’s posts suggested he believes in it 100%. Your outrage is disingenuous.

you have certainly called out everyone else....by claiming they dismiss the BLM....


no pet only what it has become.....if you think blaming everything on whitey will make it all better......and the black on black will stop.....and what Jacinta claims is happening in the aboriginal community is a pack of lies...... then I ask myself who is the biased one here?

cods wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 11:22pm:

Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 11:16pm: cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 11:12pm: Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 10:09pm: To dismiss a movement like BLM because they don’t highlight the crimes committed against a person by a member of their race, not only misses the point but shows an inherent bias within us. so you believe in it 100% good for you   to me its got not a thing to do with George  anymore its all about MEEEEEE..... if thats your idea of making changes I feel sorry for you all it does is put the other half of the populations backs up. >:( >:( Nothing in Raven’s posts suggested he believes in it 100%. Your outrage is disingenuous. you have certainly called out everyone else....by claiming they dismiss the BLM.... no pet only what it has become.....if you think blaming everything on whitey will make it all better......and the black on black will stop.....and what Jacinta claims is happening in the aboriginal community is a pack of lies...... then I ask myself who is the biased one here?

Where has Raven said what is happening in Aboriginal communities is a lie? Point it out.

And Raven isn’t blaming everything on whites. But we do share some blame. If you can’t believe that then Raven expects you to refute every single claim he has made in this thread

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 3:09pm:

cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 2:54pm: this lady should be in Parliament.. She's running as a Country Liberal in the upcoming election, isn't she? Her mother was a NT Government Minister.

Relevance?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 4:08pm:

"No one with a revulsion for the influence of the alt-right or neo-Nazis in our body politic would be surprised to learn that an aspiring Aboriginal candidate for the House of Representatives could graduate from the role of children’s entertainer “Yamba the Honey Ant” to darling of the Country Liberal Party and the federal Coalition. "Still, the average pundit would not be aware that the majority of this person’s social media followers are the rabid racists who claim to support a pro-Aboriginal cause by backing the aspirant’s bizarre political agenda." The folly of Jacinta Price

You lost me right there in your criticism of this woman's views.... throwing labels around does not resolve issues.... it's just another form of thuggery so beloved by extreme right and extreme left.

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 5:12pm:

another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM.

So.... what is BLM actually about?  I know that's a hard one - but please try to answer....

So if Kaffirs die at a lower rate then the rest in custody... what IS the issue?  Their arrest rate?  Well, they should stop being violent...

What IS the real issue of BLM?  Hmmm... I'm interested...... not that there's anything wrong with that...

Raven wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 10:02pm:

Whenever we have situations like this people always bring up black on black crime. They do the same in America. Raven would argue that there is no such thing as black on black crime. The reason being we don’t use the term for white on white crime or Asian on Asian crime, or in the USA Mexican on Mexican crime. The only reason we use it is to divert attention away from white racism. Most crime is committed within the race. That has more to do with proximity than anything else. So it should be no surprise that the majority of Aboriginal victims involve an Aboriginal perpetrator. But the point of a movement like BLM is to show how the justice system is failing Aboriginal people.

What has that to do with one American cop exercising over-restraint leading to the death of an out-of control perp?

Are you suggesting that the majority of perpetrators of Koon on Koon is the result of some White intervention to compel them to behave in that way?

The justice system does not fail Aboriginal perpetrators... often their victims receive relief far too late.

You need to straighten out your thinking.....

Raven wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 10:09pm:

To dismiss a movement like BLM because they don’t highlight the crimes committed against a person by a member of their race, not only misses the point but shows an inherent bias within us.

Then show us the point... clearly..... HOW is this society causing Black deaths?

Please explain?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 3:06am:

Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 10:02pm: Whenever we have situations like this people always bring up black on black crime. They do the same in America. Raven would argue that there is no such thing as black on black crime. The reason being we don’t use the term for white on white crime or Asian on Asian crime, or in the USA Mexican on Mexican crime. The only reason we use it is to divert attention away from white racism. Most crime is committed within the race. That has more to do with proximity than anything else. So it should be no surprise that the majority of Aboriginal victims involve an Aboriginal perpetrator. But the point of a movement like BLM is to show how the justice system is failing Aboriginal people. What has that to do with one American cop exercising over-restraint leading to the death of an out-of control perp? Are you suggesting that the majority of perpetrators of Koon on Koon is the result of some White intervention to compel them to behave in that way? The justice system does not fail Aboriginal perpetrators... often their victims receive relief far too late. You need to straighten out your thinking.....

You clearly have misinterpreted Raven’s post or just picking and choosing what you want to see. Aboriginal people are more likely to be convicted of offences then non indigenous people. If you disagree then refute every point Raven made in this thread.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 3:07am:

Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 10:09pm: To dismiss a movement like BLM because they don’t highlight the crimes committed against a person by a member of their race, not only misses the point but shows an inherent bias within us. Then show us the point... clearly..... HOW is this society causing Black deaths? Please explain?

Raven is discussing the BLM movement in this country. Not America. The majority of of protesters are trying to highlight the disproportionate sentencing of indigenous people for crimes compared to non indigenous people which have led to indigenous deaths in custody. Many of whom did not need to be.

As so many of the MEME club point out when I complain about the speeding revenue collection exercise.

IF YOU DONT DO THE CRIME, YOU WONT DO THE TIME.

Abbos are, predominantly, lazy and with a 97% unemployment stat, it's obvious they don't want to work.

They prefer to drink, take drugs and beg for more free cash based on some fluke of birth.

They are, as a result, violent as they realise tgat they are worthless.

It's the black way.

We want, but we don't want to have to work, so we will get violent.
In our abbos case, they are predominantly violent against their own.

Stop treating them like an endangered species.

Make them work or cut their benifits.

Give them some self respect by being good citizens.

Raven wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 11:39pm:

cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 11:22pm: Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 11:16pm: cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 11:12pm: Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 10:09pm: To dismiss a movement like BLM because they don’t highlight the crimes committed against a person by a member of their race, not only misses the point but shows an inherent bias within us. so you believe in it 100% good for you   to me its got not a thing to do with George  anymore its all about MEEEEEE..... if thats your idea of making changes I feel sorry for you all it does is put the other half of the populations backs up. >:( >:( Nothing in Raven’s posts suggested he believes in it 100%. Your outrage is disingenuous. you have certainly called out everyone else....by claiming they dismiss the BLM.... no pet only what it has become.....if you think blaming everything on whitey will make it all better......and the black on black will stop.....and what Jacinta claims is happening in the aboriginal community is a pack of lies...... then I ask myself who is the biased one here? Where has Raven said what is happening in Aboriginal communities is a lie? Point it out. And Raven isn’t blaming everything on whites. But we do share some blame. If you can’t believe that then Raven expects you to refute every single claim he has made in this thread

how about you try hitting the nail directly on the head......what blame have aboriginals ever taken?????one example will do...

they live in denial  and the left help them to do so...simples really...

we know a few have died in custody.....but so have a few white men as well.....but lets not talk about them.. ::) ::)

if the black community spends a lot more time in jail
why is it not their own fault??? be honest raven
domestic violence an child abuse is rampant in their communities   are we as good people expected to turn a blind eye and do noting about it???

is that what you want??..

and please stop deflecting....


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Where has Raven said what is happening in Aboriginal communities is a lie? Point it out.

this gets a bit annoying after a while.....you know exactly what I mean.. if you dont then you shouldnt be on here.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 4:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 4:22pm: Rosie wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 4:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 3:57pm: Rosie wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 3:52pm: I have read a lot of what she has to say on facebook. She is a councilor in Alice Springs and I hope she gets heard more and more because to me she seems to be a sensible young woman. Her association with the Country Liberal Party has me doubting that very much. greggerypeccary that's the difference between you and me.  I look at what someone has to say not what party they belong to. If, and I wouldn't mind betting that's a big if, you are on facebook go take a look at what she has to say before making judgement Belonging to the Country Liberal Party is a good indication that she isn't as sensible as you think. And no, I don't do Facebook - I would encourage everyone to avoid it like ... well, like the plague. over 50 % of people get most of their news from social media. facebook with 1.9 billion daily users is followed by youtube with 500 million daily users and twitter with 200 million. joe rogan, whose average podcast lasts 2 hours has over a 2 billion downloads a year.  making him the most far reaching media personality to ever live.

Indeed.

Which explains why so many people are so stupid.

Raven wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 4:06am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 3:07am: Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 10:09pm: To dismiss a movement like BLM because they don’t highlight the crimes committed against a person by a member of their race, not only misses the point but shows an inherent bias within us. Then show us the point... clearly..... HOW is this society causing Black deaths? Please explain? Raven is discussing the BLM movement in this country. Not America. The majority of of protesters are trying to highlight the disproportionate sentencing of indigenous people for crimes compared to non indigenous people which have led to indigenous deaths in custody. Many of whom did not need to be.

What alternatives are there?

Which is the cart and which the horse - they are over represented in sentencing because they do more crimes, or they are over-represented just for being Black?  The latter is the suggestion, but how realistic is that?  When you live a life of substance over-abuse and live by the law of the spear, you will always get into trouble.

As for personally 'accepting responsibility' - I never harmed a Black in my life... the ex's daughter has taken up with a Kooner, and he drives long distance trucks to the NT, and so far he's been a good bloke.  :) 

In case you are wondering, I've met some Hollywood 'faces' when with the kid's mother, and she knows full well that if I say "Seems a nice bloke" - that's high praise.   8-)  Ran into George Kennedy (Dragline from Cool Hand Luke) at the airport, and he truly is (was) a nice guy.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 2:59am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:12pm: another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM. So.... what is BLM actually about?  I know that's a hard one - but please try to answer.... .

No, it's not hard. All you had to do was pay attention for about a minute. It's about the systemic racism blacks face in the USA (and other countries). It has nothing to do with murder rates, or rates of domestic violence  or any other bullsh1t you and every other racist wanker tries to introduce to deflect from the issue.

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 5:16pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 2:59am: John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:12pm: another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM. So.... what is BLM actually about?  I know that's a hard one - but please try to answer.... . No, it's not hard. All you had to do was pay attention for about a minute. It's about the systemic racism blacks face in the USA (and other countries). It has nothing to do with murder rates, or rates of domestic violence  or any other bullsh1t you and every other racist wanker tries to introduce to deflect from the issue.

what systematic racism do our aboriginals have to endure?????......please dont talk about individuals who cannot be helped......we all have them every society has their bigots   American Blacks have had whole police forces in just about every State to deal with   show me where our aboriginals have had to live with that?....

and if you think this is still about racism in AMERICA   well you havent really kept up to date have you.

they have jumped on the bandwagon here....anyone without wool over their eyes can see that>

cods wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 6:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 5:16pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 2:59am: John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:12pm: another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM. So.... what is BLM actually about?  I know that's a hard one - but please try to answer.... . No, it's not hard. All you had to do was pay attention for about a minute. It's about the systemic racism blacks face in the USA (and other countries). It has nothing to do with murder rates, or rates of domestic violence  or any other bullsh1t you and every other racist wanker tries to introduce to deflect from the issue. what systematic racism do our aboriginals have to endure?????......please dont talk about individuals who cannot be helped......we all have them every society has their bigots   American Blacks have had whole police forces in just about every State to deal with   show me where our aboriginals have had to live with that?.... and if you think this is still about racism in AMERICA   well you havent really kept up to date have you. they have jumped on the bandwagon here....anyone without wool over their eyes can see that>

Here's the kicker, cods: It's the residual effects of institutional racism that indigenous people suffer from. The right are very clever in framing the issue of 'systemic racism.'

It's the effects of historical racism that are generational.

Jacinta is not like the latee sippers, she lives in Alice Springs, Australias arsehole or pretty close to it.

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 5:16pm:

It's about the systemic racism blacks face in the USA (and other countries)

Can you give us a few examples of this so called systemic racism or is it just buzz words with no substance that appeal to ignorant leftards?


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Prisoners in 2018 From 2008 to 2018, the imprisonment rate dropped 28% among blacks, 21% among Hispanics, and 13% among whites.  In 2018, the imprisonment rate of black residents (1,134 sentenced black prisoners per 100,000 black residents) was the lowest since 1989 (1,050 per 100,000). „ In 2018, the imprisonment rate of black males was 5.8 times that of white males, while the imprisonment rate of black females was 1.8 times the rate of white females. „ Less than 15% of sentenced state prisoners were serving time for a drug offense at year-end 2017 (4% for possession), the most recent year for which data are available. Among sentenced state prisoners at year-end 2017, an estimated three-ffths of blacks and Hispanics (61% each) and nearly half of whites (48%) were serving time for a violent offense. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p18.pdf

60% of Blacks in jail in the US are there for violent offenses.

Blacks are 13% of the population yet account for 53% of all homicides, if we break that down further since women and children along with the elderly are not significant in homicide statistics we can say 3-4% of the US population are responsible for 53% of all homicides in the US.

In Australia the black homicide offender rate is 5 times higher than white homicide offender rate.

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Nyunggai Warren Mundine AO @nyunggai I have found the so called anti-racist mob more racist & bigoted then anyone. https://twitter.com/nyunggai/status/1285479374955790336

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 5:16pm: It's about the systemic racism blacks face in the USA (and other countries) Can you give us a few examples of this so called systemic racism or is it just buzz words with no substance that appeal to ignorant leftards? Quote: Prisoners in 2018 From 2008 to 2018, the imprisonment rate dropped 28% among blacks, 21% among Hispanics, and 13% among whites.  In 2018, the imprisonment rate of black residents (1,134 sentenced black prisoners per 100,000 black residents) was the lowest since 1989 (1,050 per 100,000). „ In 2018, the imprisonment rate of black males was 5.8 times that of white males, while the imprisonment rate of black females was 1.8 times the rate of white females. „ Less than 15% of sentenced state prisoners were serving time for a drug offense at year-end 2017 (4% for possession), the most recent year for which data are available. Among sentenced state prisoners at year-end 2017, an estimated three-ffths of blacks and Hispanics (61% each) and nearly half of whites (48%) were serving time for a violent offense. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p18.pdf 60% of Blacks in jail in the US are there for violent offenses. Blacks are 13% of the population yet account for 53% of all homicides, if we break that down further since women and children along with the elderly are not significant in homicide statistics we can say 3-4% of the US population are responsible for 53% of all homicides in the US. In Australia the black homicide offender rate is 5 times higher than white homicide offender rate.

And encore!

Blacks experience the residual effects of institutional racism in the United States.

Auggie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 9:14pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 8:26pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 5:16pm: It's about the systemic racism blacks face in the USA (and other countries) Can you give us a few examples of this so called systemic racism or is it just buzz words with no substance that appeal to ignorant leftards? Quote: Prisoners in 2018 From 2008 to 2018, the imprisonment rate dropped 28% among blacks, 21% among Hispanics, and 13% among whites.  In 2018, the imprisonment rate of black residents (1,134 sentenced black prisoners per 100,000 black residents) was the lowest since 1989 (1,050 per 100,000). „ In 2018, the imprisonment rate of black males was 5.8 times that of white males, while the imprisonment rate of black females was 1.8 times the rate of white females. „ Less than 15% of sentenced state prisoners were serving time for a drug offense at year-end 2017 (4% for possession), the most recent year for which data are available. Among sentenced state prisoners at year-end 2017, an estimated three-ffths of blacks and Hispanics (61% each) and nearly half of whites (48%) were serving time for a violent offense. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p18.pdf 60% of Blacks in jail in the US are there for violent offenses. Blacks are 13% of the population yet account for 53% of all homicides, if we break that down further since women and children along with the elderly are not significant in homicide statistics we can say 3-4% of the US population are responsible for 53% of all homicides in the US. In Australia the black homicide offender rate is 5 times higher than white homicide offender rate. And encore! Blacks experience the residual effects of institutional racism in the United States.

Give us some examples of this institutional racism or is that just another example of buzzwords with no substance

:D :D

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 5:16pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 2:59am: John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:12pm: another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM. So.... what is BLM actually about?  I know that's a hard one - but please try to answer.... . No, it's not hard. All you had to do was pay attention for about a minute. It's about the systemic racism blacks face in the USA (and other countries). It has nothing to do with murder rates, or rates of domestic violence  or any other bullsh1t you and every other racist wanker tries to introduce to deflect from the issue.

Much flame and fury signifying nothing, Smith... what EXACTLY is this 'systemic racism' that so adversely affects Blacks?

Q.II :-  How is this in any way directly responsible for the relatively higher rates of violence, murder, home violence, and so forth?  Can they not see their own way clearly and act to rectify it?

Q.III:-  Does this mean (in your eyes) that any and every single individual brought up in deprived circumstances will become a violent criminal drug dealing murdering woman-bashing psychopath?

Q.IV:-  If NOT - why is this kind of behaviour more prevalent among Blacks (etc)?  Corollary:-  Why do Indigenous women kill and injure more women, men and children than any other group?

Q.V:-  Does the genuine response to that question NOT tell you it is more 'cultural' than social?  Do WE force African Blacks to act like monkeys in Melbadishu and beat up on little white girls and boys?  Who holds a gun to the heads of Aborigines to compel them to beat their women, screw their children, and deal drugs while in a self-imposed stupor?

YOU... Loo-Tenant WHINEberg?

Come in, Spinner! 'Splain it all to us White Oppressionist Honkies....

blah blah blah ... I'm not interested in regurgitating the same crap with you thats been hashed over a dozen times already ... you asked what the protests were about, I explained it. It has nothing to do with rates of crime or domestic violence. Stop pretending it does.

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 10:01pm:

blah blah blah ... I'm not interested in regurgitating the same crap with you thats been hashed over a dozen times already ... you asked what the protests were about, I explained it. It has nothing to do with rates of crime or domestic violence. Stop pretending it does.

How come criminality - rates of crimes  and domestic violence - has nuffin' to to do wiv nuffin', you  militantly ignorant blister? There are lots of non-whites who are not arrested and incarcerated because they do not break laws like blacks do.
There are all sorts of non-whites in most western, once-white societies. In all of them, without exception, 'blacks' are overrepresented in crime and incarceration.
Blacks are overreprented in crime everywhere. It must be real bummer for blacks who just want to have a normal life.

Auggie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 6:49pm:

cods wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 6:44pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 5:16pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 2:59am: John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:12pm: another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM. So.... what is BLM actually about?  I know that's a hard one - but please try to answer.... . No, it's not hard. All you had to do was pay attention for about a minute. It's about the systemic racism blacks face in the USA (and other countries). It has nothing to do with murder rates, or rates of domestic violence  or any other bullsh1t you and every other racist wanker tries to introduce to deflect from the issue. what systematic racism do our aboriginals have to endure?????......please dont talk about individuals who cannot be helped......we all have them every society has their bigots   American Blacks have had whole police forces in just about every State to deal with   show me where our aboriginals have had to live with that?.... and if you think this is still about racism in AMERICA   well you havent really kept up to date have you. they have jumped on the bandwagon here....anyone without wool over their eyes can see that> Here's the kicker, cods: It's the residual effects of institutional racism that indigenous people suffer from. The right are very clever in framing the issue of 'systemic racism.' It's the effects of historical racism that are generational.

so I guess we whites should still hate the Japanese and the Germans...for past injuries  most all on film...and in history books.....

was that all racism do you believe???   you can betcha race had something to do with it.... >:( >:(

lets be clear most tribes can point the finger at other tribes in the past and claim they were raped and murdered...... but most of us grow up and realise what good does that do anyone?.. >:(

Funny how it's only the racist right wing arse holes who are offended by the BLM protests....Most people accept their is an issue and support people's right to peaceful protest....Why weren't these same people outraged when there were protests about shutting down???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 11:03pm:

Funny how it's only the racist right wing arse holes who are offended by the BLM protests....Most people accept their is an issue and support people's right to peaceful protest....Why weren't these same people outraged when there were protests about shutting down??? :-? :-? :-?

Protesting in a pandemic is uncivilized, the nigers boongs blacks can get rooted.

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 10:01pm:

blah blah blah ... I'm not interested in regurgitating the same crap with you thats been hashed over a dozen times already ... you asked what the protests were about, I explained it. It has nothing to do with rates of crime or domestic violence. Stop pretending it does.

Get off the piss and dope......

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 11:03pm:

Funny how it's only the racist right wing arse holes who are offended by the BLM protests....Most people accept their is an issue and support people's right to peaceful protest....Why weren't these same people outraged when there were protests about shutting down??? :-? :-? :-?

**snores**

What IS the issue?  I've tried Smith on that and all he does is rant ... you?

Blacks die at a lower rate per capita in custody than others.... what is the issue?  That they are arrested and detained more?

Isn't THAT the issue?  WHY are they arrested and detained more?   :-?

Obviously you can't see the difference...  ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 11:03pm:

Funny how it's only the racist right wing arse holes who are offended by the BLM protests....Most people accept their is an issue and support people's right to peaceful protest....Why weren't these same people outraged when there were protests about shutting down??? :-? :-? :-?

why is agreeing with Jacinta racism?????......

no one gives a stuff about BLM protests   its just those at a time like this covids 19....remember that little problem???

everyone has the right to think this is neither the time nor place for rallies of this kind....

any more than allowing crowds in to watch the footy or racing! is!   

we are all making sacrifices...accept the few who keep adding to the problem......

why is it racist to ask they postpone these protest marches????????>..

Good on you Jacinta.
At least she can see the problems her mob are having.
Got nothing to do with screaming at white people.
White societies are where blacks want to live....yet all black communities are nothing like what the whites created.


Look at the US. Blacks forced whites out of a lot of neighborhoods in the states. Now look at those areas. Once they were beautiful areas....now they're just ghetto's. It's the black life culture that black lives created that needs eradicating.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 4:08pm:

"No one with a revulsion for the influence of the alt-right or neo-Nazis in our body politic would be surprised to learn that an aspiring Aboriginal candidate for the House of Representatives could graduate from the role of children’s entertainer “Yamba the Honey Ant” to darling of the Country Liberal Party and the federal Coalition. "Still, the average pundit would not be aware that the majority of this person’s social media followers are the rabid racists who claim to support a pro-Aboriginal cause by backing the aspirant’s bizarre political agenda." The folly of Jacinta Price

You quote a trouble making sellout to big mining in Marcia Langton.

One who claims to speak for Aboriginals in Australia ..... but really only has an agenda for herself.

A toxic acidic piece of work that she is.  ::)

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 5:12pm:

another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM.

BLM stands for lying & deceit .... running a false narrative & is racist to the core.

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2020 at 7:55pm:

cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 7:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:12pm: another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM. and YOU HAVE?  being a blackman makes you an expert does it?????>. at least she is BLACK>.and she lives in their community more than you do...I think I know who the moronic one is.. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( no cods, being black doesn't make you an expert... You either understand it, or you don't. You, quite clearly, do not.

You keep telling people they're morons & they don't know what BLM represents .....

so why don't you tell us what they represent/ what they stand for?  ::)

Raven wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 4:06am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 3:07am: Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 10:09pm: To dismiss a movement like BLM because they don’t highlight the crimes committed against a person by a member of their race, not only misses the point but shows an inherent bias within us. Then show us the point... clearly..... HOW is this society causing Black deaths? Please explain? Raven is discussing the BLM movement in this country. Not America. The majority of of protesters are trying to highlight the disproportionate sentencing of indigenous people for crimes compared to non indigenous people which have led to indigenous deaths in custody. Many of whom did not need to be.

They do more crime proportionately... consequently.

Indigenous people are not the only ones who die in custody .... more whites & peoples of other races die in custody.



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Raven would argue that there is [highlight]no such thing as black on black crime.[/highlight] The reason being we don’t use the term for white on white crime or Asian on Asian crime, or in the USA Mexican on Mexican crime. The only reason we use it is to divert attention away from white racism. Most crime is committed within the race. That has more to do with proximity than anything else. So it should be no surprise that the majority of Aboriginal victims involve an Aboriginal perpetrator. But the point of a movement like BLM is to show how the justice system is failing Aboriginal people.

;D

Yes there is ...

yes they do especially in statistical breakdowns

divert attention away from white racism?  ;D

You're part of the problem.

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 11:03pm:

Funny how it's only the racist right wing arse holes who are offended by the BLM protests....Most people accept their is an issue and support people's right to peaceful protest....Why weren't these same people outraged when there were protests about shutting down??? :-? :-? :-?

They did you clown.

Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2020 at 8:09am:

Good on you Jacinta. At least she can see the problems her mob are having. Got nothing to do with screaming at white people. White societies are where blacks want to live....yet all black communities are nothing like what the whites created. Look at the US. Blacks forced whites out of a lot of neighborhoods in the states. Now look at those areas. Once they were beautiful areas....now they're just ghetto's. It's the black life culture that black lives created that needs eradicating.

she isnt alone thank god   Warren Mundine can see through all this bullshite as well...

sadly the members of the bleedinghearts mob  mostly pure white..who run around bleeding all over their keyboards......claim it everyones fault bar aboriginals.

a case of if only

whitey had never come here ::) ::) ::)

they have a crystal ball that tells them aboriginals would be living in paradise if it wasnt for the rest of us....


funny how the aboriginal communities where whites can only go invited...... are not happy little paradises are they?

Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 10:34pm:

How come criminality - rates of crimes  and domestic violence - has nuffin' to to do wiv nuffin', you  militantly ignorant blister?

Because they are a seperate issue you moron.

You should ask the uni you went to for a full refund.

Gnads wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2020 at 8:36am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 7:55pm: cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 7:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 5:12pm: another moronic liberal who doesn't understand what BLM is about. It has nothing to do with domestic violence. Anyone who says it does, including the stupid woman in the OP, either hasn't a clue or is deflecting from the real issue of BLM. and YOU HAVE?  being a blackman makes you an expert does it?????>. at least she is BLACK>.and she lives in their community more than you do...I think I know who the moronic one is.. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( no cods, being black doesn't make you an expert... You either understand it, or you don't. You, quite clearly, do not. You keep telling people they're morons & they don't know what BLM represents ..... so why don't you tell us what they represent/ what they stand for?  ::)

i already did that a couple of pages back

Johnnie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2020 at 12:09am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 11:03pm: Funny how it's only the racist right wing arse holes who are offended by the BLM protests....Most people accept their is an issue and support people's right to peaceful protest....Why weren't these same people outraged when there were protests about shutting down??? :-? :-? :-? Protesting in a pandemic is uncivilized, the nigers boongs blacks can get rooted.

and the whites that were protesting the lock downs before that? I don't recall you being concerned about those protests

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2020 at 2:39pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 12:09am: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 11:03pm: Funny how it's only the racist right wing arse holes who are offended by the BLM protests....Most people accept their is an issue and support people's right to peaceful protest....Why weren't these same people outraged when there were protests about shutting down??? :-? :-? :-? Protesting in a pandemic is uncivilized, the nigers boongs blacks can get rooted. and the whites that were protesting the lock downs before that? I don't recall you being concerned about those protests

40,000 blacks testing a pandemic does not reflect well on them.

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2020 at 2:37pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm: How come criminality - rates of crimes  and domestic violence - has nuffin' to to do wiv nuffin', you  militantly ignorant blister? Because they are a seperate issue you moron. You should ask the uni you went to for a full refund.

hilarious! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 9:17pm:

Auggie wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 9:14pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 8:26pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 5:16pm: It's about the systemic racism blacks face in the USA (and other countries) Can you give us a few examples of this so called systemic racism or is it just buzz words with no substance that appeal to ignorant leftards? Quote: Prisoners in 2018 From 2008 to 2018, the imprisonment rate dropped 28% among blacks, 21% among Hispanics, and 13% among whites.  In 2018, the imprisonment rate of black residents (1,134 sentenced black prisoners per 100,000 black residents) was the lowest since 1989 (1,050 per 100,000). „ In 2018, the imprisonment rate of black males was 5.8 times that of white males, while the imprisonment rate of black females was 1.8 times the rate of white females. „ Less than 15% of sentenced state prisoners were serving time for a drug offense at year-end 2017 (4% for possession), the most recent year for which data are available. Among sentenced state prisoners at year-end 2017, an estimated three-ffths of blacks and Hispanics (61% each) and nearly half of whites (48%) were serving time for a violent offense. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p18.pdf 60% of Blacks in jail in the US are there for violent offenses. Blacks are 13% of the population yet account for 53% of all homicides, if we break that down further since women and children along with the elderly are not significant in homicide statistics we can say 3-4% of the US population are responsible for 53% of all homicides in the US. In Australia the black homicide offender rate is 5 times higher than white homicide offender rate. And encore! Blacks experience the residual effects of institutional racism in the United States. Give us some examples of this institutional racism or is that just another example of buzzwords with no substance

Remember I said 'residual' effects, which means that whilst the institutional discrimination may not exist now, it did in the past and it's the generational effects I'm talking about.

In terms of what examples: slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, housing segregation, lynching... You name it.

Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2020 at 10:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:01pm: blah blah blah ... I'm not interested in regurgitating the same crap with you thats been hashed over a dozen times already ... you asked what the protests were about, I explained it. It has nothing to do with rates of crime or domestic violence. Stop pretending it does. How come criminality - rates of crimes  and domestic violence - has nuffin' to to do wiv nuffin', you  militantly ignorant blister? There are lots of non-whites who are not arrested and incarcerated because they do not break laws like blacks do. There are all sorts of non-whites in most western, once-white societies. In all of them, without exception, 'blacks' are overrepresented in crime and incarceration. Blacks are overreprented in crime everywhere. It must be real bummer for blacks who just want to have a normal life.

The question is why are they committing crimes at higher rates than whites?

This is due to social conditions, which I argue are affected by the residual effects of historic discrimination.

Auggie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2020 at 7:49pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:01pm: blah blah blah ... I'm not interested in regurgitating the same crap with you thats been hashed over a dozen times already ... you asked what the protests were about, I explained it. It has nothing to do with rates of crime or domestic violence. Stop pretending it does. How come criminality - rates of crimes  and domestic violence - has nuffin' to to do wiv nuffin', you  militantly ignorant blister? There are lots of non-whites who are not arrested and incarcerated because they do not break laws like blacks do. There are all sorts of non-whites in most western, once-white societies. In all of them, without exception, 'blacks' are overrepresented in crime and incarceration. Blacks are overreprented in crime everywhere. It must be real bummer for blacks who just want to have a normal life. The question is why are they committing crimes at higher rates than whites? This is due to social conditions, which I argue are affected by the residual effects of historic discrimination.

They are more criminal than whites. They cultive their criminality.

There are plenty of non-whites who are less criminal than whites. They are not killing each other at the rate blacks do even though they are not regarded as equal to whites, if your racial theory is to be credited. 

I bet church going blacks are a lot less criminal than gangta rappers and swaering bitchslappers. Culture shapes people.

Auggie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2020 at 7:49pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:01pm: blah blah blah ... I'm not interested in regurgitating the same crap with you thats been hashed over a dozen times already ... you asked what the protests were about, I explained it. It has nothing to do with rates of crime or domestic violence. Stop pretending it does. How come criminality - rates of crimes  and domestic violence - has nuffin' to to do wiv nuffin', you  militantly ignorant blister? There are lots of non-whites who are not arrested and incarcerated because they do not break laws like blacks do. There are all sorts of non-whites in most western, once-white societies. In all of them, without exception, 'blacks' are overrepresented in crime and incarceration. Blacks are overreprented in crime everywhere. It must be real bummer for blacks who just want to have a normal life. The question is why are they committing crimes at higher rates than whites? This is due to social conditions, which I argue are affected by the residual effects of historic discrimination.

Please explain.... with more than just a bald statement....

a.  What are 'the residual effects of historic discrimination.'

b.  How does this directly affect modern enlightened Aboriginal communities and people (or descendants of Black slaves from 155 years ago), who have a race memory of a past Golden Age pre Captain Cook, and how does this NEW 'intrusion' force them to behave in a criminal manner?

c.  How does Whartey stop or slow down this rate of criminality, and thus save countless women's and men's lives, let alone abuse and neglect of children, unless it be by further intervention.. which you... and they... claim is the absolute cause of their current crisis?

d.  Why are they NOT behaving in accordance with the principles of the 'past golden age' instead of acting like mongrel dogs in the street?  Any solid 'culture' would not degenerate to that ... American Indians on the reservation and Maoris (most of) have more honour than that..... and yet this lot love to post movies on NITV from the US and NZ as if there is some direct relationship ......

Welcome to the classroom of Reallife College...   8-)

Auggie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2020 at 7:49pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:01pm: blah blah blah ... I'm not interested in regurgitating the same crap with you thats been hashed over a dozen times already ... you asked what the protests were about, I explained it. It has nothing to do with rates of crime or domestic violence. Stop pretending it does. How come criminality - rates of crimes  and domestic violence - has nuffin' to to do wiv nuffin', you  militantly ignorant blister? There are lots of non-whites who are not arrested and incarcerated because they do not break laws like blacks do. There are all sorts of non-whites in most western, once-white societies. In all of them, without exception, 'blacks' are overrepresented in crime and incarceration. Blacks are overreprented in crime everywhere. It must be real bummer for blacks who just want to have a normal life. The question is why are they committing crimes at higher rates than whites? This is due to social conditions, which I argue are affected by the residual effects of historic discrimination.

That's a worn out excuse.

Just a continuation of the victim mentality & always to lump the blame on another race.

If there are a group of whites responsible for their current poor social conditioning & the perpetuation of victim mentality .....

look no further than those who claim to be their biggest saviors ... the liberal lefty democrats.

600,000 white men died to free them from slavery. ::) 

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2020 at 9:54pm:

Auggie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 7:49pm: Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:01pm: blah blah blah ... I'm not interested in regurgitating the same crap with you thats been hashed over a dozen times already ... you asked what the protests were about, I explained it. It has nothing to do with rates of crime or domestic violence. Stop pretending it does. How come criminality - rates of crimes  and domestic violence - has nuffin' to to do wiv nuffin', you  militantly ignorant blister? There are lots of non-whites who are not arrested and incarcerated because they do not break laws like blacks do. There are all sorts of non-whites in most western, once-white societies. In all of them, without exception, 'blacks' are overrepresented in crime and incarceration. Blacks are overreprented in crime everywhere. It must be real bummer for blacks who just want to have a normal life. The question is why are they committing crimes at higher rates than whites? This is due to social conditions, which I argue are affected by the residual effects of historic discrimination. They are more criminal than whites. They cultive their criminality. There are plenty of non-whites who are less criminal than whites. They are not killing each other at the rate blacks do even though they are not regarded as equal to whites, if your racial theory is to be credited.  I bet church going blacks are a lot less criminal than gangta rappers and swaering bitchslappers. Culture shapes people.

Pseudo-scientific racism.

Gnads wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2020 at 8:24am:

Auggie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 7:49pm: Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:01pm: blah blah blah ... I'm not interested in regurgitating the same crap with you thats been hashed over a dozen times already ... you asked what the protests were about, I explained it. It has nothing to do with rates of crime or domestic violence. Stop pretending it does. How come criminality - rates of crimes  and domestic violence - has nuffin' to to do wiv nuffin', you  militantly ignorant blister? There are lots of non-whites who are not arrested and incarcerated because they do not break laws like blacks do. There are all sorts of non-whites in most western, once-white societies. In all of them, without exception, 'blacks' are overrepresented in crime and incarceration. Blacks are overreprented in crime everywhere. It must be real bummer for blacks who just want to have a normal life. The question is why are they committing crimes at higher rates than whites? This is due to social conditions, which I argue are affected by the residual effects of historic discrimination. That's a worn out excuse. Just a continuation of the victim mentality & always to lump the blame on another race. If there are a group of whites responsible for their current poor social conditioning & the perpetuation of victim mentality ..... look no further than those who claim to be their biggest saviors ... the liberal lefty democrats. 600,000 white men died to free them from slavery. ::)

So, history has no effect on society or on communities?

Auggie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2020 at 5:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 9:54pm: Auggie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 7:49pm: Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:01pm: blah blah blah ... I'm not interested in regurgitating the same crap with you thats been hashed over a dozen times already ... you asked what the protests were about, I explained it. It has nothing to do with rates of crime or domestic violence. Stop pretending it does. How come criminality - rates of crimes  and domestic violence - has nuffin' to to do wiv nuffin', you  militantly ignorant blister? There are lots of non-whites who are not arrested and incarcerated because they do not break laws like blacks do. There are all sorts of non-whites in most western, once-white societies. In all of them, without exception, 'blacks' are overrepresented in crime and incarceration. Blacks are overreprented in crime everywhere. It must be real bummer for blacks who just want to have a normal life. The question is why are they committing crimes at higher rates than whites? This is due to social conditions, which I argue are affected by the residual effects of historic discrimination. They are more criminal than whites. They cultivate their criminality. There are plenty of non-whites who are less criminal than whites. They are not killing each other at the rate blacks do even though they are not regarded as equal to whites, if your racial theory is to be credited.  I bet church going blacks are a lot less criminal than gangta rappers and swaering bitchslappers. Culture shapes people. Pseudo-scientific racism.

Do explain, if you are able (you are not). Is the criminal justice system 'pesudo-scientific?


How is your conjuring of history scientific??:

Auggie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2020 at 5:55pm:

So, history has no effect on society or on communities?

Old Bull Moose Shitter, you are all over the place, and everywhere out of your depth.



;D ;D

The fact is the justice system has let Aboriginal people down due to the fact that they are Aboriginal.

And Raven is not talking about perpetrators.

Look at the Bowraville murders. Three Aboriginal children were murdered from the same mission between 1990 and 1991, and despite there being overwhelming evidence pointing to one person – a non-Indigenous man – he has never been convicted.

The families of Colleen Walker, 16, Evelyn Greenup, 4, and Clinton Speedy-Duroux, 16, have been fighting, protesting and crying for justice ever since.

In the first crucial days of the kids’ disappearances, they were completely ignored by local police, who told parents that their children had probably gone ‘walkabout’.

In fact, Colleen’s mother, Muriel Craig-Walker, was questioned by police about whether or not she was, in fact, Colleen’s mother, and whether Colleen was even Aboriginal, given her fair complexion.

The only other contact Muriel ever received from police in the original investigation was a phone call weeks after Colleen’s disappearance, to inform her that her daughter had been found on a bus on the way to Brisbane. When Muriel rushed to the police station, she was told it was a case of mistaken identity – the Colleen Walker on the bus was an elderly white nun.

In 2013, Clinton Speedy-Duroux’s father, Thomas, was told by NSW Attorney General Greg Smith that it was time he got counselling and moved on, but only after Smith first mistakenly called him by the alleged killer’s name. No politician, except for Greens MLA David Shoebridge and the members of the parliamentary inquiry, have ever visited Bowraville, despite many promising to do so.

The families had to protest outside the police station in 1991 simply to get investigators to take notice. Furious about the lack of action, Colleen’s aunty, Elaine Walker, asked the local police inspector Bob Moore why he didn’t listen to the community when they gave him information about the killer’s identity.

Inspector Moore’s response was that “you people” had to work with police in solving the crime. What the community didn’t know, until nearly two decades later, was that rather than hunting a killer, local child protection authorities had been called in to investigate the community on suspicions of child abuse. Those same authorities were later appointed as homicide detectives, despite having no experience in the area.

The Bowraville families had to repeat their protests on numerous occasions over the next 20 years to even secure the parliamentary inquiry. It represents a slim, but crucial, last chance for justice.

In one protest, which filled Macquarie St, a white man walked past the streaming Aboriginal flags and “Justice for Bowraville” posters and yelled out “Go and get a job”.

It’s this level of racism, and apathy, that the Bowraville families have had to rage against for over 20 long, hard years.

So why didn’t Bowraville receive the same level of attention as other cases?

The reason can be found in the testimony of Detective Inspector Gary Jubelin, who headed the second investigation into the case in 1997. Jubelin brought to the case 20 years experience investigating homicides, and he says the Bowraville story can’t be told without mentioning one word: Racism.

He told the parliamentary inquiry earlier this year:


Quote:

I have been investigating crimes for 20 years and I am still shocked by the lack of interest that has been shown in this matter. We have a serial killer and three children were murdered. The only time they seem to get things happening is when they attract the media’s attention or when they publicly protest. That is very unfortunate. The families know the reason. The families told me the reason when I first met them in 1997. They said ‘it’s because we’re Aboriginal’. At the time when I met the families I did not believe them. Unfortunately, the truth of the matter is, having worked with the families now for the past 18 years, I think they identified the problem. I am a homicide detective; I am not a do-gooder or a bleeding heart. However race, and to a lesser degree, socioeconomic factors have impacted on the manner in which these matters have been investigated.

Raven would like to say that Bowraville is an isolated case. But it is not. Black victims have long been deemed less worthy, and their stories are either completely ignored, or quickly forgotten.

Think of the case of the little boy in the remote community of Borroloola. He went missing in November 2007.
When the little boy went missing, his family knew exactly what went wrong. They traced his footprints and knew immediately that there had been foul play. His body was found in a dirty water hole in which he would never go swimming, weighed down with rocks. Police actually saw the rocks fall out of his shorts as the lifeless body was removed. And still they said it was a case of accidental drowning.

When the boy’s body was brought to a morgue and laid on a slab, more large rocks fell out of his pants. And yet still, the boy was considered to have drowned.

It would be five years before a coronial inquiry into the death uncovered the litany of police errors. They were indignities that could only ever happen to the corpse of an Aboriginal child, because it simply never happens in non-Aboriginal Australia.

The coroner found police had “irrationally” focused on trying to show the death was accidental, despite strong evidence to the contrary. There were no proper searches around the scene, evidence was destroyed and police failed to get reports to the coroner.

All the family have received to this day is a police apology, and that was only after ABC’s Four Corners highlighted the case. There is no word on whether the investigation will be re-opened.

The Four Corners investigation into the murder in 2013 told the story of how the boy died, but it never really delved deeply into why the investigation was botched.

Inquest into the death of Kieffen Owen Raggett 2010

Why do children like the boy from Borroloola and the kids from Bowraville remain unknown, while children like Daniel Morcombe or Jill Meagher or Michelle Levy become household names?

It’s not to suggest that they are not deserving of the attention. But why are Aboriginal kids less deserving?

It illustrates the two laws in this country – the black and the white – and the sad fact is the onus is always on Aboriginal people to try and bridge the divide.

Aboriginal people are forced to protest for their justice, and they risk the continual demonization of their communities when they do.

They risk their own incarceration.

Look at the death in custody of Mulrunji Doomdagee, who was savagely beaten to death  by a police officer on a watchhouse floor on Palm Island. Mulrunji had his liver cleaved in two, and suffered the sorts of injuries you might expect to see from the victim of a plane crash.

Both the Queensland government, federal government and the media all ignored it. The community were forced to stage an uprising and burn down the courthouse, police stations and police barracks before they were afforded any level of attention – media or government - and even then it was negative, and resulted in the incarceration of almost two dozen protestors.

To this day, the only people who have served jail time over the killing of Mulrunji Doomadgee have been Aboriginal people. No cop has lost a cent of pay, let alone seen the inside of a jail cell.

This is what BLM in this country is protesting about.

Preface:-  I have always been among the first to object when a death of an Aboriginal was considered 'second class'...

Raven:-  I fully understand your point here - but the real issue is that the vast majority of such incidents are 'black on black'... I would personally take a hit against anyone who did the Bowraville things.... but .... is the evidence strong enough to support what you say - that in this isolated incident the perpetrator was a white man?

What is the evidence to support this?

As for the boy drowned with rocks - who did it? 

Please try to avoid putting anecdotal assumptions, such as  'a white man did the Bowraville things' in with some totally unresolved issues from elsewhere, such as the rock drowning thing.  In doing so, you create a false equivalence between the two separate acts, and infer that they are both Whartey acts.

There are some weird people out there... their colour is irrelevant until they are proven - and I have made it known that if anyone touches a certain little girl I am close to, I will fulfill a contract on them... at 71 I don't really give a damn if I am put in prison ... and anyone who touches my grand-daughters is in for a really bad time....

I'd say the community would take up a collection to support me in style in the big house... and what jury would convict me anyway?

Auggie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2020 at 5:55pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 23rd, 2020 at 8:24am: Auggie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 7:49pm: Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:34pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:01pm: blah blah blah ... I'm not interested in regurgitating the same crap with you thats been hashed over a dozen times already ... you asked what the protests were about, I explained it. It has nothing to do with rates of crime or domestic violence. Stop pretending it does. How come criminality - rates of crimes  and domestic violence - has nuffin' to to do wiv nuffin', you  militantly ignorant blister? There are lots of non-whites who are not arrested and incarcerated because they do not break laws like blacks do. There are all sorts of non-whites in most western, once-white societies. In all of them, without exception, 'blacks' are overrepresented in crime and incarceration. Blacks are overreprented in crime everywhere. It must be real bummer for blacks who just want to have a normal life. The question is why are they committing crimes at higher rates than whites? This is due to social conditions, which I argue are affected by the residual effects of historic discrimination. That's a worn out excuse. Just a continuation of the victim mentality & always to lump the blame on another race. If there are a group of whites responsible for their current poor social conditioning & the perpetuation of victim mentality ..... look no further than those who claim to be their biggest saviors ... the liberal lefty democrats. 600,000 white men died to free them from slavery. ::)  So, history has no effect on society or on communities?

 
We all have histories ..... & it is a foolish society that learns nothing from it ...... "bound to repeat it"...... no?

Yet some have a propensity to never move on & play out the victim for hundreds of years.

And the blame game continues on a biased racial basis.

@Raven
While I agree there is a hangover from the past, the generational, the historical, you would think this should be easing with each passing generation and that doesn't seem to be the case. I have no words to describe the cases you mention of the forgotten murdered children, I also have no idea whether that is race based or just police indifference to the "lower classes" as I just don't have enough cases to base that on. Either way it's an atrocious condemnation and the disrespect of the humanity of the people involved by the authorities and should be addressed.

As we know and have seen, the BLM crowd here in Au have been adamant what they see as the injustice, 400 Aboriginals dying in custody since 1992 or so. In this case they are protesting a problem that doesn't exist. More non-Aboriginals per head die in custody, Aboriginals are safer in custody than in their own communities.

If BLM Au wants to make a point it needs to be fact based and ATM it is not, as focusing on deaths in custody is a fallacious argument.

The people pointing out the hypocrisy of this take on things, while so much harm is done in their own communities are not racist or one eyed or whatever, it's absolutely rational to wonder why that is forgiven while the blame is always elsewhere.

We see this in Africa, it's the whites, the colonists fault, generationally and historically. Yet other places in the world that have suffered or gained or both through past colonisation just get on with it. See Asia for a counter to Africa. At some point people need to take responsibility for themselves.

https://img.women.com/images/images/000/167/286/large/giphy.gif

Jacinta needs to be kissed..... and often..... her Bruvvas and Sistuhs could start by kissing her feet for stating the truth....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 25^th, 2020 at 1:38am:

https://img.women.com/images/images/000/167/286/large/giphy.gif Jacinta needs to be kissed..... and often..... her Bruvvas and Sistuhs could start by kissing her feet for stating the truth....

I agree... what a shame she is a voice of reason in a sea of denial...... lets hope they dont wear her down..

cods wrote on Jul 25^th, 2020 at 9:44am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 1:38am: https://img.women.com/images/images/000/167/286/large/giphy.gif Jacinta needs to be kissed..... and often..... her Bruvvas and Sistuhs could start by kissing her feet for stating the truth.... I agree... what a shame she is a voice of reason in a sea of denial...... lets hope they dont wear her down..

A courageous woman.

cods wrote on Jul 25^th, 2020 at 9:44am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 1:38am: https://img.women.com/images/images/000/167/286/large/giphy.gif Jacinta needs to be kissed..... and often..... her Bruvvas and Sistuhs could start by kissing her feet for stating the truth.... I agree... what a shame she is a voice of reason in a sea of denial...... lets hope they dont wear her down..

They'll hound her out of job, home and family... and the 'government' will do nothing to stop it... they'll pay the hyenas to gang up on her..... that's the now well-worn path to destroying fact-based dissent.  Probably fit her up for misuse of public funds or something... dark stories of abusing the child of a staff member.... any dirt at all from her past and present that can be distorted and made into a public moral crusade to remove her from any public voice ...

Remember what St Tony the Abbott did to the Redhead Mk I.....

Belgarion wrote on Jul 25^th, 2020 at 10:31am:

cods wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 9:44am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 1:38am: https://img.women.com/images/images/000/167/286/large/giphy.gif Jacinta needs to be kissed..... and often..... her Bruvvas and Sistuhs could start by kissing her feet for stating the truth.... I agree... what a shame she is a voice of reason in a sea of denial...... lets hope they dont wear her down.. A courageous woman.

couldnt agree more  even more so in todays climate...

the denialists   have the power right now......and boy do they know how to whinge...

no surprise cods likes her ... cods has always been attracted to idiocy.

John Smith wrote on Jul 25^th, 2020 at 5:00pm:

no surprise cods likes her ... cods has always been attracted to idiocy.

Tell us ONE idiocy you know of from Jacinta Price. Go on, bozo, tell us.

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2020 at 5:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 5:00pm: no surprise cods likes her ... cods has always been attracted to idiocy. Tell us ONE idiocy you know of from Jacinta Price. Go on, bozo, tell us.

start with the OP ya moron

John Smith wrote on Jul 25^th, 2020 at 7:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 5:21pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 5:00pm: no surprise cods likes her ... cods has always been attracted to idiocy. Tell us ONE idiocy you know of from Jacinta Price. Go on, bozo, tell us. start with the OP ya moron

Enter l'idiot de ville......... do try to keep up in class, Smith... you don't want to repeat another year, do you? Sarcasm is a loser...............

Where is Jacinta Smith wrong in her views?

Setanta wrote on Jul 24^th, 2020 at 11:44pm:

@Raven While I agree there is a hangover from the past, the generational, the historical, you would think this should be easing with each passing generation and that doesn't seem to be the case. I have no words to describe the cases you mention of the forgotten murdered children, I also have no idea whether that is race based or just police indifference to the "lower classes" as I just don't have enough cases to base that on. Either way it's an atrocious condemnation and the disrespect of the humanity of the people involved by the authorities and should be addressed. As we know and have seen, the BLM crowd here in Au have been adamant what they see as the injustice, 400 Aboriginals dying in custody since 1992 or so. In this case they are protesting a problem that doesn't exist. More non-Aboriginals per head die in custody, Aboriginals are safer in custody than in their own communities. If BLM Au wants to make a point it needs to be fact based and ATM it is not, as focusing on deaths in custody is a fallacious argument. The people pointing out the hypocrisy of this take on things, while so much harm is done in their own communities are not racist or one eyed or whatever, it's absolutely rational to wonder why that is forgiven while the blame is always elsewhere. We see this in Africa, it's the whites, the colonists fault, generationally and historically. Yet other places in the world that have suffered or gained or both through past colonisation just get on with it. See Asia for a counter to Africa. At some point people need to take responsibility for themselves.

Sad. You almost get there with your admission of the general deprivation of the under classes ... what you fail to understand that underneath any underclass you have ever felt a part of is that that hold Aboriginal people. By some considerable way. SO much so that you've been unable to factor in to your assessments.

And the oh so disclosing bit about Africans not managing particularly well. We get it. They've got all that melanin too. Let's not delve any deeper. We may hurt ourselves. Or compromise our tenuous positions.

Old white guys matter too, no?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 25^th, 2020 at 9:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 7:54pm: Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 5:21pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 5:00pm: no surprise cods likes her ... cods has always been attracted to idiocy. Tell us ONE idiocy you know of from Jacinta Price. Go on, bozo, tell us. start with the OP ya moron Enter l'idiot de ville......... do try to keep up in class, Smith... you don't want to repeat another year, do you? Sarcasm is a loser............... Where is Jacinta Smith wrong in her views?

you wont get an answer to a very sensible question  js doesnt do sensible   just bullying and abuse....

are you surprised he thinks jacinta is an idiot???>..

I am so glad hes on the other side...... :D :D :D

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 25^th, 2020 at 9:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 7:54pm: Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 5:21pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 5:00pm: no surprise cods likes her ... cods has always been attracted to idiocy. Tell us ONE idiocy you know of from Jacinta Price. Go on, bozo, tell us. start with the OP ya moron Enter l'idiot de ville......... do try to keep up in class, Smith... you don't want to repeat another year, do you? Sarcasm is a loser............... Where is Jacinta Smith wrong in her views?

we've covered this graps ... do try to keep up.

John Smith wrote on Jul 25^th, 2020 at 7:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 5:21pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 25th, 2020 at 5:00pm: no surprise cods likes her ... cods has always been attracted to idiocy. Tell us ONE idiocy you know of from Jacinta Price. Go on, bozo, tell us. start with the OP ya moron

Which part of the op is idiocy, bozo?


https://www.socialist.net/an-appeal-to-black-lives-matter-activists.htm

https://www.socialistalternative.org/marxism-fight-black-freedom/

https://www.cpusa.org/article_tag/black-lives-matter/

https://thesocialist.org.au/product/marxism-fight-black-freedom/

Frank wrote on Jul 26^th, 2020 at 11:59am:

Which part of the op is idiocy, bozo?

another moron

we've covered this ... you even replied (and failed) ... do try to keep up

John Smith wrote on Jul 26^th, 2020 at 2:28pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 11:59am: Which part of the op is idiocy, bozo? another moron we've covered this ... you even replied (and failed) ... do try to keep up

You are the no face, no idea mangy, snarly hyena who could never, ever, articulate the simplest thing, like the the difference between your arse and elbow, Gino Da Bozo.  You say the same evasive, gibberish sh!te to every challenge.

Jacinta Price, like many others who can think (unlike you), has called out the Marxist anarchist take-over of black grievances. Especially in Australia, the stupidity is stark. Price calls for genuine Aboriginal self-determination and that means taking responsibility.  You, the inarticulate Calabrian opportunistic blow-in concreter, shout her down for telling her own people to take responsibility for their own lives.  Because Calabrians know-bugger-alls like you know better that Jacinta Price.   

If you were just an idiot you would go unremarked. But you are a malicious idiot. You are a dam mong ON PURPOSE, like that invert Paki. Calabrian/Paki cunning, innit.

Frank wrote on Jul 26^th, 2020 at 6:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 2:28pm: Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 11:59am: Which part of the op is idiocy, bozo? another moron we've covered this ... you even replied (and failed) ... do try to keep up You are the no face, no idea mangy, snarly hyena who could never, ever, articulate the simplest thing, like the the difference between your arse and elbow, Gino Da Bozo.  You say the same evasive, gibberish sh!te to every challenge. Jacinta Price, like many others who can think (unlike you), has called out the Marxist anarchist take-over of black grievances. Especially in Australia, the stupidity is stark. Price calls for genuine Aboriginal self-determination and that means taking responsibility.  You, the inarticulate Calabrian opportunistic blow-in concreter, shout her down for telling her own people to take responsibility for their own lives.  Because Calabrians know-bugger-alls like you know better that Jacinta Price.    If you were just an idiot you would go unremarked. But you are a malicious idiot. You are a dam mong ON PURPOSE, like that invert Paki. Calabrian/Paki cunning, innit.

Now, now Sorend ... your idiocy has already been proven. No need to get upset about it. You've had years to get used to it. I would have thought you'd have accepted it by now.

mothra wrote on Jul 26^th, 2020 at 8:11am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 24th, 2020 at 11:44pm: @Raven While I agree there is a hangover from the past, the generational, the historical, you would think this should be easing with each passing generation and that doesn't seem to be the case. I have no words to describe the cases you mention of the forgotten murdered children, I also have no idea whether that is race based or just police indifference to the "lower classes" as I just don't have enough cases to base that on. Either way it's an atrocious condemnation and the disrespect of the humanity of the people involved by the authorities and should be addressed. As we know and have seen, the BLM crowd here in Au have been adamant what they see as the injustice, 400 Aboriginals dying in custody since 1992 or so. In this case they are protesting a problem that doesn't exist. More non-Aboriginals per head die in custody, Aboriginals are safer in custody than in their own communities. If BLM Au wants to make a point it needs to be fact based and ATM it is not, as focusing on deaths in custody is a fallacious argument. The people pointing out the hypocrisy of this take on things, while so much harm is done in their own communities are not racist or one eyed or whatever, it's absolutely rational to wonder why that is forgiven while the blame is always elsewhere. We see this in Africa, it's the whites, the colonists fault, generationally and historically. Yet other places in the world that have suffered or gained or both through past colonisation just get on with it. See Asia for a counter to Africa. At some point people need to take responsibility for themselves. Sad. You almost get there with your admission of the general deprivation of the under classes ... what you fail to understand that underneath any underclass you have ever felt a part of is that that hold Aboriginal people. By some considerable way. SO much so that you've been unable to factor in to your assessments. And the oh so disclosing bit about Africans not managing particularly well. We get it. They've got all that melanin too. Let's not delve any deeper. We may hurt ourselves. Or compromise our tenuous positions. Old white guys matter too, no?

What do white guys have to do with Asians being able to recover, without whining, from the yoke of the hated colonialism?

For whatever reason you threw this in for, yes old white guys matter too, so do young ones and female ones, are you suggesting they shouldn't?

John Smith wrote on Jul 26^th, 2020 at 6:25pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 6:10pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 2:28pm: Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 11:59am: Which part of the op is idiocy, bozo? another moron we've covered this ... you even replied (and failed) ... do try to keep up You are the no face, no idea mangy, snarly hyena who could never, ever, articulate the simplest thing, like the the difference between your arse and elbow, Gino Da Bozo.  You say the same evasive, gibberish sh!te to every challenge. Jacinta Price, like many others who can think (unlike you), has called out the Marxist anarchist take-over of black grievances. Especially in Australia, the stupidity is stark. Price calls for genuine Aboriginal self-determination and that means taking responsibility.  You, the inarticulate Calabrian opportunistic blow-in concreter, shout her down for telling her own people to take responsibility for their own lives.  Because Calabrians know-bugger-alls like you know better that Jacinta Price.    If you were just an idiot you would go unremarked. But you are a malicious idiot. You are a dam mong ON PURPOSE, like that invert Paki. Calabrian/Paki cunning, innit. Now, now Sorend ... your idiocy has already been proven. No need to get upset about it. You've had years to get used to it. I would have thought you'd have accepted it by now.

Thanks, imbecille, for proving my assessment of you with every post you make.

You could not make a coherent refutation of Jacinda Price or anyone. You have not made e coherent argument in your life.

Stick to concreting and making mince for salami. Thick is where you are at home.

mothra wrote on Jul 26^th, 2020 at 8:11am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 24th, 2020 at 11:44pm: @Raven While I agree there is a hangover from the past, the generational, the historical, you would think this should be easing with each passing generation and that doesn't seem to be the case. I have no words to describe the cases you mention of the forgotten murdered children, I also have no idea whether that is race based or just police indifference to the "lower classes" as I just don't have enough cases to base that on. Either way it's an atrocious condemnation and the disrespect of the humanity of the people involved by the authorities and should be addressed. As we know and have seen, the BLM crowd here in Au have been adamant what they see as the injustice, 400 Aboriginals dying in custody since 1992 or so. In this case they are protesting a problem that doesn't exist. More non-Aboriginals per head die in custody, Aboriginals are safer in custody than in their own communities. If BLM Au wants to make a point it needs to be fact based and ATM it is not, as focusing on deaths in custody is a fallacious argument. The people pointing out the hypocrisy of this take on things, while so much harm is done in their own communities are not racist or one eyed or whatever, it's absolutely rational to wonder why that is forgiven while the blame is always elsewhere. We see this in Africa, it's the whites, the colonists fault, generationally and historically. Yet other places in the world that have suffered or gained or both through past colonisation just get on with it. See Asia for a counter to Africa. At some point people need to take responsibility for themselves. Sad. You almost get there with your admission of the general deprivation of the under classes ... what you fail to understand that underneath any underclass you have ever felt a part of is that that hold Aboriginal people. By some considerable way. SO much so that you've been unable to factor in to your assessments. And the oh so disclosing bit about Africans not managing particularly well. We get it. They've got all that melanin too. Let's not delve any deeper. We may hurt ourselves. Or compromise our tenuous positions. Old white guys matter too, no?

South Africa is governed by blacks. The murder rate is through the bloody roof. The top ten most murderous countries are ALL tinted:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/126AC/production/_103463457_chart-sa_crime-rg2mh-nc.png

Not a coincidence at all.


It's like a bloody war zone.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/48EA/production/_103466681_chart-conflict_deaths-6r0ig-nc.png


There are 1,144 police station precincts across the country and 20% of all the murders were recorded at just 30 stations, according to the South African police service.

Last year, half of all murders were recorded at only 13% of stations.

According to ISS' Crime Hub, several precincts have a murder rate estimated at more than 100 per 100,000. That's higher than in most of the war zones considered above.

In Philippi East, a township of Cape Town, the rate was estimated at 323.4 per 100,000. It was 214.52 in Madeira in the Eastern Cape province and 177.3 at Pietermaritzburg's central city station in KwaZulu-Natal.







Bleks governing themselves. Showing what black independence can achieve  :P :P

Frank wrote on Jul 26^th, 2020 at 6:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 6:25pm: Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 6:10pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 2:28pm: Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 11:59am: Which part of the op is idiocy, bozo? another moron we've covered this ... you even replied (and failed) ... do try to keep up You are the no face, no idea mangy, snarly hyena who could never, ever, articulate the simplest thing, like the the difference between your arse and elbow, Gino Da Bozo.  You say the same evasive, gibberish sh!te to every challenge. Jacinta Price, like many others who can think (unlike you), has called out the Marxist anarchist take-over of black grievances. Especially in Australia, the stupidity is stark. Price calls for genuine Aboriginal self-determination and that means taking responsibility.  You, the inarticulate Calabrian opportunistic blow-in concreter, shout her down for telling her own people to take responsibility for their own lives.  Because Calabrians know-bugger-alls like you know better that Jacinta Price.    If you were just an idiot you would go unremarked. But you are a malicious idiot. You are a dam mong ON PURPOSE, like that invert Paki. Calabrian/Paki cunning, innit. Now, now Sorend ... your idiocy has already been proven. No need to get upset about it. You've had years to get used to it. I would have thought you'd have accepted it by now. Thanks, imbecille, for proving my assessment of you with every post you make. You could not make a coherent refutation of Jacinda Price or anyone. You have not made e coherent argument in your life. Stick to concreting and making mince for salami. Thick is where you are at home.

concreting and making mince?


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


seriously dude, you really need to ask that uni you claim you went to for a full refund.

John Smith wrote on Jul 26^th, 2020 at 7:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 6:52pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 6:25pm: Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 6:10pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 2:28pm: Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 11:59am: Which part of the op is idiocy, bozo? another moron we've covered this ... you even replied (and failed) ... do try to keep up You are the no face, no idea mangy, snarly hyena who could never, ever, articulate the simplest thing, like the the difference between your arse and elbow, Gino Da Bozo.  You say the same evasive, gibberish sh!te to every challenge. Jacinta Price, like many others who can think (unlike you), has called out the Marxist anarchist take-over of black grievances. Especially in Australia, the stupidity is stark. Price calls for genuine Aboriginal self-determination and that means taking responsibility.  You, the inarticulate Calabrian opportunistic blow-in concreter, shout her down for telling her own people to take responsibility for their own lives.  Because Calabrians know-bugger-alls like you know better that Jacinta Price.    If you were just an idiot you would go unremarked. But you are a malicious idiot. You are a dam mong ON PURPOSE, like that invert Paki. Calabrian/Paki cunning, innit. Now, now Sorend ... your idiocy has already been proven. No need to get upset about it. You've had years to get used to it. I would have thought you'd have accepted it by now. Thanks, imbecille, for proving my assessment of you with every post you make. You could not make a coherent refutation of Jacinda Price or anyone. You have not made e coherent argument in your life. Stick to concreting and making mince for salami. Thick is where you are at home. concreting and making mince? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D seriously dude, you really need to ask that uni you claim you went to for a full refund.

Dont evade the point, oily dago: You could not make a coherent refutation of Jacinda Price or anyone. You have not made a coherent argument in your life.


Speak to that, thick concreter.

Frank wrote on Jul 26^th, 2020 at 9:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 7:17pm: Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 6:52pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 6:25pm: Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 6:10pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 2:28pm: Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2020 at 11:59am: Which part of the op is idiocy, bozo? another moron we've covered this ... you even replied (and failed) ... do try to keep up You are the no face, no idea mangy, snarly hyena who could never, ever, articulate the simplest thing, like the the difference between your arse and elbow, Gino Da Bozo.  You say the same evasive, gibberish sh!te to every challenge. Jacinta Price, like many others who can think (unlike you), has called out the Marxist anarchist take-over of black grievances. Especially in Australia, the stupidity is stark. Price calls for genuine Aboriginal self-determination and that means taking responsibility.  You, the inarticulate Calabrian opportunistic blow-in concreter, shout her down for telling her own people to take responsibility for their own lives.  Because Calabrians know-bugger-alls like you know better that Jacinta Price.    If you were just an idiot you would go unremarked. But you are a malicious idiot. You are a dam mong ON PURPOSE, like that invert Paki. Calabrian/Paki cunning, innit. Now, now Sorend ... your idiocy has already been proven. No need to get upset about it. You've had years to get used to it. I would have thought you'd have accepted it by now. Thanks, imbecille, for proving my assessment of you with every post you make. You could not make a coherent refutation of Jacinda Price or anyone. You have not made e coherent argument in your life. Stick to concreting and making mince for salami. Thick is where you are at home. concreting and making mince? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D seriously dude, you really need to ask that uni you claim you went to for a full refund. Dont evade the point, oily dago: You could not make a coherent refutation of Jacinda Price or anyone. You have not made a coherent argument in your life. Speak to that, thick concreter.

It's the WOG way.....

**and to think I f*cked one once.....Mama Mia.... nice though..... the women are all right... it's the blokes... all-a talk and-a no pr1ck....     ::)  ::)  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3MccCsSuU0