What a sellout, they even sell our water to the Chinese and they don't even need a land entitlement.

"One Nation leader Pauline Hanson says it’s “an absolute disgrace” the government has done nothing about Chinese Communist Party owned companies buying up Australian water, including in the Murray-Darling Basin."

What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 10^th, 2020 at 11:35pm:

What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::)

The ears prick up when I hear its the Chinese Communist Party buying our water. They will channel the water to their own dairy beef fruit veg farms to feed themselves, they are already doing it. They will also charge us to drink our own water.

All Australian farmers on the rivers pump only their legal amount of water all the time.  However Canada is the largest overseas farm-buyer and probably will charge us to drink our water.

Everything the CCP does has a strategic angle.

Could you imagine any foreign power having any control over a critical resource in China? Nup.....

“Jihua’s distribution reach in China will see Broo Premium Lager penetrate the Chinese beer market and expand into a major brand over the coming years,” says Kent Grogan, founder and CEO of Broo.  Broo, which produces Broo Premium Lager and Australia Draught, raised $10.5 million at 20 cents a share when it listed on the ASX in October last year."

every idiot here crying about Chinese buying our land or water would sell their place to a Chinese in a heart beat if it meant they could get more money :D :D

John Smith wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 10:20am:

every idiot here crying about Chinese buying our land or water would sell their place to a Chinese in a heart beat if it meant they could get more money :D :D

Do you think there's a difference between an ethnically Chinese person buying a private residence to the CCP buying a strategic assets like water or ports?

Another crystal clear example of where the private enterprise model has failed utterly to produce the goods.

What is totally wrong about the failed water management scheme is that people buy and sell water 'rights' without the water actually being 'managed' in any real way- just another easy way of transferring public held wealth in Treasury into the hands of a few on the inside.

After 'consolidated revenue', 'privatisation' is the greatest rort ever perpetrated on a gullible public.

BOTR!

Johnnie wrote on May 10^th, 2020 at 11:33pm:

What a sellout, they even sell our water to the Chinese and they don't even need a land entitlement. "One Nation leader Pauline Hanson says it’s “an absolute disgrace” the government has done nothing about Chinese Communist Party owned companies buying up Australian water, including in the Murray-Darling Basin."

All Chinese corporations are eventually owned by the CCP, either through no or low interest 'loans' to Party members, or directly but through a series of cut-outs.

chimera wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 10:02am:

“Jihua’s distribution reach in China will see Broo Premium Lager penetrate the Chinese beer market and expand into a major brand over the coming years,” says Kent Grogan, founder and CEO of Broo.  Broo, which produces Broo Premium Lager and Australia Draught, raised $10.5 million at 20 cents a share when it listed on the ASX in October last year."

Broo ha-ha - got a look at its structure and such?  Modern day Opium Wars?

Who in the hell is Jihua?  Is that kind of like a shadow Australian company that produces and sells beer direct in China?  Or is this just another 'export' that will end up paying buggar-all taxes?

John Smith wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 10:20am:

every idiot here crying about Chinese buying our land or water would sell their place to a Chinese in a heart beat if it meant they could get more money :D :D

I wouldn't.... not knowing the realities... and I like Chinese as people - just not their government, which is as crooked and slippery as a well filled with snakes.

I understand ChinkerGuv is pissed off with Australia and threatening sanctions of some kind... did-ums.. 8-)

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 11:12am:

I wouldn't..

I'm calling bullshit. If you listed your place for sale and the agent told you that you had an full price offer from a chinese couple and another offer by someone else that was $20k less, you'd take the highest. You can lie to yourself and say you wouldn't but i don't believe you

Gordon wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 10:49am:

John Smith wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 10:20am: every idiot here crying about Chinese buying our land or water would sell their place to a Chinese in a heart beat if it meant they could get more money :D :D Do you think there's a difference between an ethnically Chinese person buying a private residence to the CCP buying a strategic assets like water or ports?

No. Everyone wants to sell to the highest bidder, irrespective of who the buyer is. Chinese companies are just as profitable as aussie companies if you're the seller

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 11:10am:

Who in the hell is Jihua?  Is that kind of like a shadow Australian company that produces and sells beer direct in China?  Or is this just another 'export' that will end up paying buggar-all taxes?

"Broo Limited has announced that Jinxing Beer Group has started its production of Broo Premium Lager in Zhengzhou. Last year Broo sealed the partnership with Jinxing to produce the beer and then distribute through its nationwide Chinese network."

The Australians are quietly stealing China's water supply and blaming their partner , a Shanghai water-drug lord.

Wait, how much water was bought and for what function.  As Brian said, they are not going to truck the water back to China.  So, it could be two reasons.
1. They have their privately owned farms that needed to be watered.  In which case, they are allowed to buy their allocation. 
2.  They may be holding it as an investment, like many other international companies are doing.  So offsell in periods of drought. 

This is a problem created by the government who privatized water in the first place. 

tickleandrose wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 2:05pm:

Wait, how much water was bought and for what function.  As Brian said, they are not going to truck the water back to China.  So, it could be two reasons. 1. They have their privately owned farms that needed to be watered.  In which case, they are allowed to buy their allocation.  2.  They may be holding it as an investment, like many other international companies are doing.  So offsell in periods of drought.  This is a problem created by the government who privatized water in the first place.

1. they can buy our water without owning any land.

2. They are buying our water for an investment alright.

Don't our politicians know that the Chinese can afford to buy anything they want and are doing so, they only want the good stuff though.

"China is buying up Australian land, infrastructure and businesses at an alarming rate as it seeks to project power and influence beyond its shores.

The communist nation of 1.4billion people owns an airport in Western Australia, nine million hectares of Australian land, several Aussie coalmines and wind farms and even the Port of Darwin, a key strategic asset.

China is also the largest foreign owner of Australian water

Chinese investors have added another 50,000 hectares to their Australian property portfolio, taking the total area of property under Chinese control to more than 9.1 million hectares amid growing concerns over foreign interference and national security.

China is now the second largest investor in Australian land and is within a million hectares of the top landholder, the United Kingdom, as Canberra moves to tighten controls over foreign investors.

The amount of Australian farm land owned by Chinese interests has surged tenfold in the past year, climbing above 14 million hectares or 2.5 per cent of all agricultural land.

The findings from the Australian Tax Office's Agricultural Land Register, released this week, show the UK and China are the largest owners of foreign-held land in Australia, owning 27 per cent and 25 per cent respectively.

The amount of Australian farm land owned by Chinese interests has surged tenfold in the past year, climbing above 14 million hectares or 2.5 per cent of all agricultural land.

The findings from the Australian Tax Office's Agricultural Land Register, released this week, show the UK and China are the largest owners of foreign-held land in Australia, owning 27 per cent and 25 per cent respectively."

If anyone has been to or seen footage of real estate auctions in Sydney or Melbourne they would see 8 out of 10 attendees are Chinese, they are snapping up everything they can get their hands on.

They can piss off and take their virus with them.

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Johnnie wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 6:09pm:

1. they can buy our water without owning any land.

So they load up tankers in a port with stuff that floods the Yangtse  valley every few years?

Brian Ross wrote on May 10^th, 2020 at 11:35pm:

What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::)

Idiot, once again.

As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules.

Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented.

Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian.

Now you know where all the Water is going.
Some goes to Australian Farmers/Industries...

...most goes to Overseas Owned Farms/Industries.
Afterall - during the Drought Crises (Menindee Lakes, etc), most experts agreed that it was a 'Managerial fault' somewhere in the lines.

Frank wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules.

If they don't have land where do they put the water?

China makes sure it's business interests in Australia are 'well watered' even during drought.

Their port in Darwin needs water. They buy cheap in Tasmania and fill the harbour.

chimera wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 7:29pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. If they don't have land where do they put the water?

in giant bladders that they drag across the desert :D :D

Frank wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian.

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png

Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::)

John Smith wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 11:50am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 11:12am: I wouldn't.. I'm calling bullshit. If you listed your place for sale and the agent told you that you had an full price offer from a chinese couple and another offer by someone else that was $20k less, you'd take the highest. You can lie to yourself and say you wouldn't but i don't believe you

Not selling.................

Johnnie wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 6:09pm:

tickleandrose wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 2:05pm: Wait, how much water was bought and for what function.  As Brian said, they are not going to truck the water back to China.  So, it could be two reasons. 1. They have their privately owned farms that needed to be watered.  In which case, they are allowed to buy their allocation.  2.  They may be holding it as an investment, like many other international companies are doing.  So offsell in periods of drought.  This is a problem created by the government who privatized water in the first place.  1. they can buy our water without owning any land. 2. They are buying our water for an investment alright. Don't our politicians know that the Chinese can afford to buy anything they want and are doing so, they only want the good stuff though. "China is buying up Australian land, infrastructure and businesses at an alarming rate as it seeks to project power and influence beyond its shores. The communist nation of 1.4billion people owns an airport in Western Australia, nine million hectares of Australian land, several Aussie coalmines and wind farms and even the Port of Darwin, a key strategic asset. China is also the largest foreign owner of Australian water Chinese investors have added another 50,000 hectares to their Australian property portfolio, taking the total area of property under Chinese control to more than 9.1 million hectares amid growing concerns over foreign interference and national security. China is now the second largest investor in Australian land and is within a million hectares of the top landholder, the United Kingdom, as Canberra moves to tighten controls over foreign investors. The amount of Australian farm land owned by Chinese interests has surged tenfold in the past year, climbing above 14 million hectares or 2.5 per cent of all agricultural land. The findings from the Australian Tax Office's Agricultural Land Register, released this week, show the UK and China are the largest owners of foreign-held land in Australia, owning 27 per cent and 25 per cent respectively. The amount of Australian farm land owned by Chinese interests has surged tenfold in the past year, climbing above 14 million hectares or 2.5 per cent of all agricultural land. The findings from the Australian Tax Office's Agricultural Land Register, released this week, show the UK and China are the largest owners of foreign-held land in Australia, owning 27 per cent and 25 per cent respectively." If anyone has been to or seen footage of real estate auctions in Sydney or Melbourne they would see 8 out of 10 attendees are Chinese, they are snapping up everything they can get their hands on. They can piss off and take their virus with them.

You got it - the issue is control over resources, and thus control over a nation.  National security as opposed to notional security, innit? 

Under the current water trading scheme - that incredible furphy that costs billions to run and benefits the insiders - water is a commodity to be bought and sold on for profit... not to be utilised for the purpose John Smith gave it (sorry - he only thinks he's god) .. that is the whole truth about the 'water trading scheme' that is supposed to somehow generate more efficient use of water...

It does nothing of the kind - it breeds inefficient waste while offering opportunity for profiteering from sale of water 'rights'... no wonder the Indigenous are almost up in arms over the rape of their Inland Nations...

Brian Ross wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 8:52pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::)

Yes, yes we can certainly see your sense of value adding to a thread. Just go look at your last 25 posts and see what could have been left off the end of them. You are one of the least value adding posters here and one of the most self righteous about it. While I disagree with what many say here, responding like you do makes you look like an ass. You don't seem to be here to try to change others minds, to "enlighten" them, but to pretend superiority when your posts have no value. Walking around the world tsk tsking and rolling your eyes does not make you right, it shows what a self righteous ass you are. You want to know why I never defend you? How can I? You are already the supreme being in your own mind, the epitome of knowledge, you need no defending. Like God you only deserve derision.

Milagro the Bastards - if the water runs past your farm - suck it up!!  The wasters downstream won't miss it anyway.... and it will only run off to the sea or into swamps.

Brian reflexively defends any criticism of the Chinese government.

I think we need to get to the bottom of why that is.

Setanta wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 9:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 8:52pm: Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::) Yes, yes we can certainly see your sense of value adding to a thread. Just go look at your last 25 posts and see what could have been left off the end of them. You are one of the least value adding posters here and one of the most self righteous about it. While I disagree with what many say here, responding like you do makes you look like an ass. You don't seem to be here to try to change others minds, to "enlighten" them, but to pretend superiority when your posts have no value. Walking around the world tsk tsking and rolling your eyes does not make you right, it shows what a self righteous ass you are. You want to know why I never defend you? How can I? You are already the supreme being in your own mind, the epitome of knowledge, you need no defending. Like God you only deserve derision.

Those that can be enlightened will be enlightened.  Soren has his head so far up his arse, he's see can see daylight.  Why no criticism of his continual bucketloads of mud that he continually dumps on me?   ::) ::)

Gordon wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 9:29pm:

Brian reflexively defends any criticism of the Chinese government.

Do I?  Gee, there are threads and threads which I haven't contributed to. My reflexes must be slow.


Quote:

I think we need to get to the bottom of why that is.

Perhaps you need a sense of perspective that isn't clouded by Sinophobia...  ::) ::)

There are suspicions that some milk formula tins on Qantas flights to the Forbidden City are carrying Murray River mud. The fish are filtered out and dumped in Wuhan, kids get the leftover.

If anyone is genuinely interested why China purchasing water rights in Australia is not a good thing, do a bit of exploring in this direction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrestricted_Warfare

Brian is either too stupid or too much of a traitor to realise China is actually at war with the west, but we're just starting to figure that out.

With record low interest rates , the water terrorism warfare will produce low returns on Chinese investment and less if a drought hits the stockpile.

Gordon wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 9:29pm:

Brian reflexively defends any criticism of the Chinese government. I think we need to get to the bottom of why that is.

I doubt the best Proctologist in the world could get to the "bottom" of Brian's problem without bringing in a brigade of sanitary workers to clean the shite out of his nappy.

Brian Ross wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 9:31pm:

Setanta wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 9:14pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 8:52pm: Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::) Yes, yes we can certainly see your sense of value adding to a thread. Just go look at your last 25 posts and see what could have been left off the end of them. You are one of the least value adding posters here and one of the most self righteous about it. While I disagree with what many say here, responding like you do makes you look like an ass. You don't seem to be here to try to change others minds, to "enlighten" them, but to pretend superiority when your posts have no value. Walking around the world tsk tsking and rolling your eyes does not make you right, it shows what a self righteous ass you are. You want to know why I never defend you? How can I? You are already the supreme being in your own mind, the epitome of knowledge, you need no defending. Like God you only deserve derision. Those that can be enlightened will be enlightened.  Soren has his head so far up his arse, he's see can see daylight.  Why no criticism of his continual bucketloads of mud that he continually dumps on me?   ::) ::)

Do you really wonder why he retaliates Brian? I don't have to agree with people to allow them their opinion.

Just for you though...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzQKECQgjW8

Setanta wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 9:31pm: Setanta wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 9:14pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 8:52pm: Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::) Yes, yes we can certainly see your sense of value adding to a thread. Just go look at your last 25 posts and see what could have been left off the end of them. You are one of the least value adding posters here and one of the most self righteous about it. While I disagree with what many say here, responding like you do makes you look like an ass. You don't seem to be here to try to change others minds, to "enlighten" them, but to pretend superiority when your posts have no value. Walking around the world tsk tsking and rolling your eyes does not make you right, it shows what a self righteous ass you are. You want to know why I never defend you? How can I? You are already the supreme being in your own mind, the epitome of knowledge, you need no defending. Like God you only deserve derision. Those that can be enlightened will be enlightened.  Soren has his head so far up his arse, he's see can see daylight.  Why no criticism of his continual bucketloads of mud that he continually dumps on me?   ::) ::) Do you really wonder why he retaliates Brian? I don't have to agree with people to allow them their opinion.

Perhaps a better question would be why he initiates this mud throwing, Set.  You seem to be assuming he is innocent in this exchange.  Why?  Do you like Soren's bullshit for some obscure reason?  Mmm?  ::)

Gordon wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 9:40pm:

Brian is either too stupid or too much of a traitor to realise China is actually at war with the west, but we're just starting to figure that out.

Like many of your thinking, it leaves a great deal to be desired, Gordon.  China is merely reacting to the hostility it perceives from people such as yourself.  Your Sinophobia is showing.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 10:55pm:

Gordon wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 9:40pm: Brian is either too stupid or too much of a traitor to realise China is actually at war with the west, but we're just starting to figure that out. Like many of your thinking, it leaves a great deal to be desired, Gordon.  China is merely reacting to the hostility it perceives from people such as yourself.  Your Sinophobia is showing.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

Cue the Islamophobe-Callers who consider that poor suffering Islamites are reacting when they are wandering the streets with signs saying to behead others... victims, innit?  Kind of a chicken and egg or horse and cart argument, innit?

So - not only do we have wars of National/Ethnic Inferiority Complex being considered acceptable - we also have wars of National/Ethnic Paranoia considered acceptable?

Why not just declare a level playing field, and just say that any psychiatric or psychological disorder is acceptable and sufficient reason to commit mass murder based on a national or personal or ethnic group feeling?

Save a lot of time and trouble that way.

"Tom - get me the President on the line ... we're declaring everyone with a gripe our national and mortal enemy........"

"Yes, Sir!"

"Wait one, Tom - don't call the President just yet... I think we need to look more closely at Yankophobia and Australophobia for a minute.... they don't 'sing' as well as 'Sinophobia' or 'Islamophobia' which kind of roll off the tongue - we might need to work on the naming a little here..."

Setanta wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 9:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 8:52pm: Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::) Yes, yes we can certainly see your sense of value adding to a thread. Just go look at your last 25 posts and see what could have been left off the end of them. You are one of the least value adding posters here and one of the most self righteous about it. While I disagree with what many say here, responding like you do makes you look like an ass. You don't seem to be here to try to change others minds, to "enlighten" them, but to pretend superiority when your posts have no value. Walking around the world tsk tsking and rolling your eyes does not make you right, it shows what a self righteous ass you are. You want to know why I never defend you? How can I? You are already the supreme being in your own mind, the epitome of knowledge, you need no defending. Like God you only deserve derision.

I know. I like how he rattles everyone with his "Tsk, tsk", even I've copped it once. Lol. Brian gets up everyone and he doesn't need to go on about Trump to do it either.
Brian is a gas. ;D

China respects the British and American people here.
But the Boongs and the 'White' Australians with 'no name' - it treats like stupid primitives he can be bought with a mirror and beads. Like a stimulus package - easily bought, with the money to come back to them like a boomerang anyway.

Brian Ross wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 8:52pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::)

Pointing out your relentless, eyewatering fvckwittery IS the real value.

Jasin wrote on May 12^th, 2020 at 7:46am:

Setanta wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 9:14pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 8:52pm: Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::) Yes, yes we can certainly see your sense of value adding to a thread. Just go look at your last 25 posts and see what could have been left off the end of them. You are one of the least value adding posters here and one of the most self righteous about it. While I disagree with what many say here, responding like you do makes you look like an ass. You don't seem to be here to try to change others minds, to "enlighten" them, but to pretend superiority when your posts have no value. Walking around the world tsk tsking and rolling your eyes does not make you right, it shows what a self righteous ass you are. You want to know why I never defend you? How can I? You are already the supreme being in your own mind, the epitome of knowledge, you need no defending. Like God you only deserve derision. I know. I like how he rattles everyone with his "Tsk, tsk", even I've copped it once. Lol. Brian gets up everyone and he doesn't need to go on about Trump to do it either. Brian is a gas. ;D

Should see Brian when it's less than 2 minutes to Wapner and he hasn't found a TV.

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2020 at 7:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 8:52pm: Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::) Pointing out your relentless, eyewatering fvckwittery IS the real value.

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Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 12^th, 2020 at 8:31pm:

Frank wrote on May 12th, 2020 at 7:22pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 8:52pm: Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::) Pointing out your relentless, eyewatering fvckwittery IS the real value. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::)

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Anything of value to add to the thread, Brian?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::)

Who the hell actually says "tsk tsk?"

They TRADE in it - the profit goes offshore and tax is buried deep so that none is paid.

It's a rort pure and simple.. and it is blatant removal from this nation of money that should rightfully remain here, as well as control over a necessity of economic and social life, for the simple reason that purchasing of 'rights' can be used to cut out any and all opposition, thus handing total power to an oligarchy that does not even live here and does not rely on the production from that resource for food and trade.

Governments need to wake up and stop their silly 'private enterprise model' nonsense, as being more efficient, and get with the realities... by creating these costly ventures they are actually contributing to rises in costs of living and thus of inflation caused by the accelerating inability of the common dollar to go the distance to meet costs of living, which in turn creates a demand for upward wage rises and a steadily diminishing opportunity of the common person to keep up, and thus to a reduction in standards of living.

It's called INFLATION, whichever way you cook it, and it is out of control here.

Now what kind of god-damned more-on would sign up to a deal like that?

Do Australian companies have any water trading 'rights' in the Yangtse and thus in the power generating plants along it?

Try it some time..... let's put in a bid for water used by Chinese rice farmers, as a commodity to be bought and sold and incapable of being utilised unless bought, thus cutting out Chinese rice farmers who cannot afford to compete in a rapidly escalating market, and then we trade in it as a commodity going to the highest bidder thus causing further rises and further cutting out primary producers in China ... see how far you get.

One of them will hoe you to death... Hoe, Hoe, Hoe!

Some of you are abjectly dumb.

Is this the Qld Southern Downs water bottling plant at a resort?
"One person on the council, deputy mayor Jo McNally, said they knew of several property owners pumping water from the ground to sell commercially elsewhere, but there was little they could do. “This is happening all over the region and here we are singling out one landowner,” she said."

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 13^th, 2020 at 1:52am:

They TRADE in it - the profit goes offshore and tax is buried deep so that none is paid. It's a rort pure and simple.. and it is blatant removal from this nation of money that should rightfully remain here, as well as control over a necessity of economic and social life, for the simple reason that purchasing of 'rights' can be used to cut out any and all opposition, thus handing total power to an oligarchy that does not even live here and does not rely on the production from that resource for food and trade. Governments need to wake up and stop their silly 'private enterprise model' nonsense, as being more efficient, and get with the realities... by creating these costly ventures they are actually contributing to rises in costs of living and thus of inflation caused by the accelerating inability of the common dollar to go the distance to meet costs of living, which in turn creates a demand for upward wage rises and a steadily diminishing opportunity of the common person to keep up, and thus to a reduction in standards of living. It's called INFLATION, whichever way you cook it, and it is out of control here. Now what kind of god-damned more-on would sign up to a deal like that? Do Australian companies have any water trading 'rights' in the Yangtse and thus in the power generating plants along it? Try it some time..... let's put in a bid for water used by Chinese rice farmers, as a commodity to be bought and sold and incapable of being utilised unless bought, thus cutting out Chinese rice farmers who cannot afford to compete in a rapidly escalating market, and then we trade in it as a commodity going to the highest bidder thus causing further rises and further cutting out primary producers in China ... see how far you get. One of them will hoe you to death... Hoe, Hoe, Hoe! Some of you are abjectly dumb.

Nice work when you can get it, sell them our water so they can sell it back to us without having to do a thing, they won't even have to come here and turn a tap on or off, a guaranteed income and if later down the track they decide they want more money to buy one of our utilities or whatever they will just put the price of our water up.

Short sighted politicians selling us out to the Chinese real fast.

It's bad enough when they buy Mt Kosciusko and pinch all the snow but rumour has it they bought the Harbour Bridge with first rights on the Opera House.

Brian Ross wrote on May 12^th, 2020 at 8:31pm:

Frank wrote on May 12th, 2020 at 7:22pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 8:52pm: Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::) Pointing out your relentless, eyewatering fvckwittery IS the real value. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::)

As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules.



You are an ignorant, ridiculous fool, Bwian and an enemy of Australia.

You ALWAYS side with whoever is undermining Australia, politically, economically, culturally. You have never once posted anything FOR Australia, you ALWAYS side with Australia's enemies - BECAUSE you are one.

And all that because the nuns smacked your stupid, recalcitrant arse as a wee 10 year old Bolshie. You have never grown out of that, even now that you piss-soaked old mad aunt. 

Why don't you order an online counselling degree? Or a doctorate in fvkwittery - you should qualify for multiple awards of that just on the basis of the crap you have been posting here. Doktor Fvkwit - Ozpolitic Publicatons. Automatic.

Brian stands up for the Aboriginal - they're Australian.
Fair suck of the sav Frank.

Jasin wrote on May 14^th, 2020 at 7:03pm:

Brian stands up for the Aboriginal - they're Australian. Fair suck of the sav Frank.

Er... they are not, actually.

Australia is a European designation. What did Aborigines call themselves before 1788? Not Australians.

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2020 at 7:07pm:

Jasin wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:03pm: Brian stands up for the Aboriginal - they're Australian. Fair suck of the sav Frank. Er... they are not, actually. Australia is a European designation. What did Aborigines call themselves before 1788? Not Australians.

So they are not even entitled to be called Australian in your view?
I don't think you're Australian enough yourself Frank (sounds french) to make that pedantic point.

Johnnie wrote on May 13^th, 2020 at 8:02am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 13th, 2020 at 1:52am: They TRADE in it - the profit goes offshore and tax is buried deep so that none is paid. It's a rort pure and simple.. and it is blatant removal from this nation of money that should rightfully remain here, as well as control over a necessity of economic and social life, for the simple reason that purchasing of 'rights' can be used to cut out any and all opposition, thus handing total power to an oligarchy that does not even live here and does not rely on the production from that resource for food and trade. Governments need to wake up and stop their silly 'private enterprise model' nonsense, as being more efficient, and get with the realities... by creating these costly ventures they are actually contributing to rises in costs of living and thus of inflation caused by the accelerating inability of the common dollar to go the distance to meet costs of living, which in turn creates a demand for upward wage rises and a steadily diminishing opportunity of the common person to keep up, and thus to a reduction in standards of living. It's called INFLATION, whichever way you cook it, and it is out of control here. Now what kind of god-damned more-on would sign up to a deal like that? Do Australian companies have any water trading 'rights' in the Yangtse and thus in the power generating plants along it? Try it some time..... let's put in a bid for water used by Chinese rice farmers, as a commodity to be bought and sold and incapable of being utilised unless bought, thus cutting out Chinese rice farmers who cannot afford to compete in a rapidly escalating market, and then we trade in it as a commodity going to the highest bidder thus causing further rises and further cutting out primary producers in China ... see how far you get. One of them will hoe you to death... Hoe, Hoe, Hoe! Some of you are abjectly dumb. Nice work when you can get it, sell them our water so they can sell it back to us without having to do a thing, they won't even have to come here and turn a tap on or off, a guaranteed income and if later down the track they decide they want more money to buy one of our utilities or whatever they will just put the price of our water up. Short sighted politicians selling us out to the Chinese real fast.

That is precisely what is wrong with water trading - if the buyer doesn't use it, it goes to the sea - and those who can't compete - the family farmers along the Murray etc - go to the wall when the water is flowing right past them.

It's a scheme designed to earn unearned profit for those on 'the inside' - again, who can just buy up 'licences', never use the water for growing anything, and then sell on at a profit to the next sucker, or sometimes even to the poor farmer who just went into mega-debt to 'buy' water 'rights' so his cattle and wheat could drink, and he might make it to next year by actually trying to produce something for the market - but he runs all the risks and the water buyers none.

Absolutely stinks to high heaven.

I'm amazed the farmers aren't literally up in arms.

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2020 at 7:07pm:

Jasin wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:03pm: Brian stands up for the Aboriginal - they're Australian. Fair suck of the sav Frank. Er... they are not, actually. Australia is a European designation. What did Aborigines call themselves before 1788? Not Australians.

Aborigines are de facto citizens of Australia since they got the vote... they have all other rights as a birthright, so there is no argument that they are Australian citizens.  White Man's cunning that was - forcing citizenship on them.....  ;D ;D  ;D

They are always welcome to repudiate their citizenship and head off to somewhere more amenable to their ideas ....  ;D

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2020 at 6:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2020 at 8:31pm: Frank wrote on May 12th, 2020 at 7:22pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 8:52pm: Frank wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 7:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Idiot, once again. As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented. Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::) Pointing out your relentless, eyewatering fvckwittery IS the real value. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   ::) As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules. You are an ignorant, ridiculous fool, Bwian and an enemy of Australia. You ALWAYS side with whoever is undermining Australia, politically, economically, culturally. You have never once posted anything FOR Australia, you ALWAYS side with Australia's enemies - BECAUSE you are one.

And who has served time in the Australian Defence Forces, Soren?  You or me?  I have demonstrated my allegiance to Australia, what have you done to show you are an Australian again?  Oh, thats right, been a fool. You have criticise me, Asian Australians, Muslim Australians, every bloody immigrant Australians, except it seems those from Denmark.  Must be pretty good to criticise your fellow Australians, hey, Soren and all without any come back from them?   Big man, real big man.  I suppose your a real descendant of a berserker Viking, hey?  Yeah, sure.  I expect your bespectacled little trick cyclist hiding in your office all day long.  Too scared to look any real Multicultural Australians in the face.  I expect you get you secretary to fob them off with your pet excuses instead.

Run along, little man. You're a real WOFTAM.    ::) ::)


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And all that because the nuns smacked your stupid, recalcitrant arse as a wee 10 year old Bolshie.

Nope, I was never assaulted by Nuns.  They owed my mother too much 'cause she'd stand up to the local Priest on their behalf.  Old church heirachy, yeah, just like George Pell stood for.  You being a Lutheran wouldn'd understand that, now would you?  WOFTAM.   ::)


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You have never grown out of that, even now that you piss-soaked old mad aunt.  Why don't you order an online counselling degree? Or a doctorate in fvkwittery - you should qualify for multiple awards of that just on the basis of the crap you have been posting here. Doktor Fvkwit - Ozpolitic Publicatons. Automatic.

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Oh, dearie me, Soren is playing again in his mud patch.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Ugh.. Here you go again Brian, your first sentence starts fine and then you sink in some of the same stuff you pay out on. Why do you like to pay out on your fellow Australians? Why do you so enjoy playing in the mud you accuse others of enjoying so much?

Was it the priest then, not the nuns? Is that why you are so butt hurt? It's good your mummy stuck up for you and the nuns. You may have turned out worse than the bed wetter you are.

Anyway, tsk tsk and pip pip.

.. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians......

**chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish**

I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys.

**pops top of can**   TSK!

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15^th, 2020 at 12:53am:

o - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish

Where did you steal that beer from?  Did the water get there from an Irishman , Scotsman or Kiwi?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15^th, 2020 at 12:53am:

.. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK!

Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;)

Setanta wrote on May 15^th, 2020 at 12:25am:

Ugh.. Here you go again Brian, your first sentence starts fine and then you sink in some of the same stuff you pay out on. Why do you like to pay out on your fellow Australians? Why do you so enjoy playing in the mud you accuse others of enjoying so much?

Why aren't you asking Soren the same questions, Set?  He is the one transgressing the rules of the forum.  I thought you were a moderator?


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Was it the priest then, not the nuns? Is that why you are so butt hurt? It's good your mummy stuck up for you and the nuns. You may have turned out worse than the bed wetter you are. Anyway, tsk tsk and pip pip.

Oh dear, someone else who likes playing in Soren's mud patch.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2020 at 12:35pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;)

I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s)....

chimera wrote on May 15^th, 2020 at 7:55am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: o - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish Where did you steal that beer from?  Did the water get there from an Irishman , Scotsman or Kiwi?

I get mine through the Muslim Underground Railway... the one where they smuggle beers out of the Deep South and free them from slavery... and they don't touch one drop along the way ..bit abstruse that but hell..I believe the Toohey brothers were Irish.. and the Guinness now... or its colonial shadow.... :-/

It's right about Irish Tooheys,  brewing Tooheys Black Old Ale in a brewery in the area of present-day Darling Harbour. Old Black Ali drove wagon-loads of water to Chinatown where the triad wharfie gangs diluted it , stole the barley and sold Corona to the tax office.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 10:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;) I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s)....

Still got that tinny taste.  Gee, that's what your posts remind me of.  Canned beer.   Never got the taste for it, it always tasted tinny to me.  Two cans per man, per day, perhaps.  I always traded mine.  Made me real popular amongst the drinkers.   ;)

Brian Ross wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 12:57pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 10:42am: Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;) I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s).... Still got that tinny taste.  Gee, that's what your posts remind me of.  Canned beer.   Never got the taste for it, it always tasted tinny to me.  Two cans per man, per day, perhaps.  I always traded mine.  Made me real popular amongst the drinkers.   ;)

The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium.

When you travel & camp & take all you need ... cans are lighter, don't smash & easier to dispose of .....

everyone collects the empties now.

Brown Glass is the best for Beer. Green Glass is only slightly less, but both preserve the beer's quality a lot longer than Tin Cans. I've been given a 'slab payment' for something done.
It had definitely been over-dated and gone off. Melbourne Bitter it was and realising I had been 'under-paid' - it left a metallic turned taste in my mouth.  :P

Beer is the dumb man's drink. Alpha Males drink Spirits and Wines. I've seen one Spirit slap a man down to the cement after just 3 nips of a glass within 15 minutes.

Copper is the best 'preservative' for any type of Alcohol.
But I can't see mass-production of Copper Cans or bigger for the likes of Beer though.

I still think New Zealand brew the best Beers overall consistently. The 'cleaner' the water, the better quality of Beer. Hence why the VB tastes like the Yarra with all that Melbournian city input.

Gnads wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 7:41am:

The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium.

I don't agree ... you can still taste a slight difference when it's out of a can. It's much more noticable if you drink directly from the can. Pouring it into a glass helps a lot

Don't even think about how many times Chinese water is re-cycled as it moves down through Yangtse River cities sewage systems.

Gnads wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 7:41am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 12:57pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 10:42am: Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;) I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s).... Still got that tinny taste.  Gee, that's what your posts remind me of.  Canned beer.   Never got the taste for it, it always tasted tinny to me.  Two cans per man, per day, perhaps.  I always traded mine.  Made me real popular amongst the drinkers.   ;) The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium.

Except to connoisseurs.  Appears your sense of taste is in your boots, Gnads, like so much else about you.  I can taste the "tinny taste" even now. 


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When you travel & camp & take all you need ... cans are lighter, don't smash & easier to dispose of ..... everyone collects the empties now.

I gave up camping when I resigned from the Army.  Five stars for me, only.  I expect the establishment I am staying at to have bottled beer or beer on tap.  ::)

Jasin wrote on May 14^th, 2020 at 7:29pm:

Frank wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:07pm: Jasin wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:03pm: Brian stands up for the Aboriginal - they're Australian. Fair suck of the sav Frank. Er... they are not, actually. Australia is a European designation. What did Aborigines call themselves before 1788? Not Australians. So they are not even entitled to be called Australian in your view? I don't think you're Australian enough yourself Frank (sounds french) to make that pedantic point.

The once that constantly belly-ache about Sorry days don't. They are rejecting the very idea of Australia - a European invention and a British project.


They are yearning for the pre-Australia days, or so they say - yet want all the benefits that post-1788 Australia can give them. If they were really serious about anti-colonialism and invasion, they would proudly retreat to their pre-1788 hunter-gatherer ways and demand a restoration of that life to them.

They are not doing that.  They want benefits for VB and Toyotas.

John Smith wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 10:05am:

Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 7:41am: The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium. I don't agree ... you can still taste a slight difference when it's out of a can. It's much more noticable if you drink directly from the can. Pouring it into a glass helps a lot

The tinny taste changed from steel to aluminium, i quickly adapted to the new flavor, the 750ml cans of Fosters will always be sadly missed, a cold tinny straight down the neck is very refreshing and good on the palate.

There are many advantages of canned beer over glass.

A warm beer thrown into an ice slurry gets colder quicker and takes up less room than glass.

Brian Ross wrote on May 10^th, 2020 at 11:35pm:

What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::)

Take your own advice you sanctimonious twat

that's exactly what they could do

bottle it & export it

They have bought up all sorts of water access licenses.

Brian Ross wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 10:55pm:

Gordon wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 9:40pm: Brian is either too stupid or too much of a traitor to realise China is actually at war with the west, but we're just starting to figure that out. Like many of your thinking, it leaves a great deal to be desired, Gordon.  China is merely reacting to the hostility it perceives from people such as yourself.  Your Sinophobia is showing.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

Is it like your Austral/anglophobia?

There was no "hostility" toward China .... there was a request for an independent inquiry.

They are the ones sabre rattling & putting on trade embargoes & tariffs.

Calling foreign govts & politicians names.

If they have nothing to hide what's the problem?

They are overconfident arseholes now saying they will allow an investigation ... but not an independent one ..... one they will organise with the WHO ... who they have in their pocket.

You have a similar mentality to the CCP?

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2020 at 7:07pm:

Jasin wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:03pm: Brian stands up for the Aboriginal - they're Australian. Fair suck of the sav Frank. Er... they are not, actually. Australia is a European designation. What did Aborigines call themselves before 1788? Not Australians.

They don't call themselves Australians today either.

That creamy activist Lydia Thorpe was on a show hosted by that old English, Jewish Lesbian Miriam Margoyles as an example of an Australian Aboriginal .....

she spoke the usual Invasion Day, oppression,discrimination & not being an Aussie bs from her nice Melbourne western home full of western goods with an even whiter daughter than herself.

And Margolyes swallowed it hook line & sinker as if Thorpe had lived it for 250 years. ::)

Thorpe has about 400 years to catch up on Bwian cos he's 650 .... & he's been everywhere man.

Gnads wrote on May 20^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2020 at 11:35pm: What are they going to do with the water?  Put it in their back pockets and take it home, back to China?  Grow up little man. You're a fool and a troll.  ::) ::) Take your own advice you sanctimonious twat that's exactly what they could do bottle it & export it They have bought up all sorts of water access licenses.

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Gnads wrote on May 20^th, 2020 at 1:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 10:55pm: Gordon wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 9:40pm: Brian is either too stupid or too much of a traitor to realise China is actually at war with the west, but we're just starting to figure that out. Like many of your thinking, it leaves a great deal to be desired, Gordon.  China is merely reacting to the hostility it perceives from people such as yourself.  Your Sinophobia is showing.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) Is it like your Austral/anglophobia? There was no "hostility" toward China .... there was a request for an independent inquiry. They are the ones sabre rattling & putting on trade embargoes & tariffs. Calling foreign govts & politicians names. If they have nothing to hide what's the problem? They are overconfident arseholes now saying they will allow an investigation ... but not an independent one ..... one they will organise with the WHO ... who they have in their pocket. You have a similar mentality to the CCP?

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Gnads wrote on May 20^th, 2020 at 1:49pm:

Frank wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:07pm: Jasin wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:03pm: Brian stands up for the Aboriginal - they're Australian. Fair suck of the sav Frank. Er... they are not, actually. Australia is a European designation. What did Aborigines call themselves before 1788? Not Australians. They don't call themselves Australians today either. That creamy activist Lydia Thorpe was on a show hosted by that old English, Jewish Lesbian Miriam Margoyles as an example of an Australian Aboriginal ..... she spoke the usual Invasion Day, oppression,discrimination & not being an Aussie bs from her nice Melbourne western home full of western goods with an even whiter daughter than herself. And Margolyes swallowed it hook line & sinker as if Thorpe had lived it for 250 years. ::) Thorpe has about 400 years to catch up on Bwian cos he's 650 .... & he's been everywhere man.

Miriam Gargoyles - aint'cha sick of her???

I am.

Jasin wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 9:25am:

Brown Glass is the best for Beer. Green Glass is only slightly less, but both preserve the beer's quality a lot longer than Tin Cans. I've been given a 'slab payment' for something done. It had definitely been over-dated and gone off. Melbourne Bitter it was and realising I had been 'under-paid' - it left a metallic turned taste in my mouth.  :P Beer is the dumb man's drink. Alpha Males drink Spirits and Wines. I've seen one Spirit slap a man down to the cement after just 3 nips of a glass within 15 minutes. Copper is the best 'preservative' for any type of Alcohol. But I can't see mass-production of Copper Cans or bigger for the likes of Beer though. I still think New Zealand brew the best Beers overall consistently. The 'cleaner' the water, the better quality of Beer. Hence why the VB tastes like the Yarra with all that Melbournian city input.

They're aluminium now ... they aren't tinned.

And the idea of buying the beer is to drink it ..... not see how long it will stay good in the bottle or can.  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 1:01pm:

Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 7:41am: Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 12:57pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 10:42am: Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;) I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s).... Still got that tinny taste.  Gee, that's what your posts remind me of.  Canned beer.   Never got the taste for it, it always tasted tinny to me.  Two cans per man, per day, perhaps.  I always traded mine.  Made me real popular amongst the drinkers.   ;) The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium. Except to connoisseurs.  Appears your sense of taste is in your boots, Gnads, like so much else about you.  I can taste the "tinny taste" even now.  Quote: When you travel & camp & take all you need ... cans are lighter, don't smash & easier to dispose of ..... everyone collects the empties now. I gave up camping when I resigned from the Army.  Five stars for me, only.  I expect the establishment I am staying at to have bottled beer or beer on tap.  ::)

As your taste is in your backside.

Connoisseur ey? I thought you were something that started with "C" .....but with 7 less letters.

The Pretense of a Craft Beer Snob ey?

I drink beers from glass & cans.

A 30 pack of cans goes further & is cheaper than 24 of glass in smaller volume bottles.

I prefer draught beer but you can't take that with you.

Glass bottles or cans .... many pour both into a beer glass.  C'est la vie.

If the beer is icy cold it tastes good from either.

Gnads wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 6:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 1:01pm: Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 7:41am: Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 12:57pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 10:42am: Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;) I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s).... Still got that tinny taste.  Gee, that's what your posts remind me of.  Canned beer.   Never got the taste for it, it always tasted tinny to me.  Two cans per man, per day, perhaps.  I always traded mine.  Made me real popular amongst the drinkers.   ;) The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium. Except to connoisseurs.  Appears your sense of taste is in your boots, Gnads, like so much else about you.  I can taste the "tinny taste" even now.  Quote: When you travel & camp & take all you need ... cans are lighter, don't smash & easier to dispose of ..... everyone collects the empties now. I gave up camping when I resigned from the Army.  Five stars for me, only.  I expect the establishment I am staying at to have bottled beer or beer on tap.  ::) As your taste is in your backside. Connoisseur ey? I thought you were something that started with "C" .....but with 7 less letters. The Pretense of a Craft Beer Snob ey? I drink beers from glass & cans. A 30 pack of cans goes further & is cheaper than 24 of glass in smaller volume bottles. I prefer draught beer but you can't take that with you. Glass bottles or cans .... many pour both into a beer glass.  C'est la vie. If the beer is icy cold it tastes good from either.

I would go along with that.

Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 6:09pm:

Gnads wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 1:49pm: Frank wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:07pm: Jasin wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:03pm: Brian stands up for the Aboriginal - they're Australian. Fair suck of the sav Frank. Er... they are not, actually. Australia is a European designation. What did Aborigines call themselves before 1788? Not Australians. They don't call themselves Australians today either. That creamy activist Lydia Thorpe was on a show hosted by that old English, Jewish Lesbian Miriam Margoyles as an example of an Australian Aboriginal ..... she spoke the usual Invasion Day, oppression,discrimination & not being an Aussie bs from her nice Melbourne western home full of western goods with an even whiter daughter than herself. And Margolyes swallowed it hook line & sinker as if Thorpe had lived it for 250 years. ::) Thorpe has about 400 years to catch up on Bwian cos he's 650 .... & he's been everywhere man. Miriam Gargoyles - aint'cha sick of her??? I am.

Yes .... I don't think I'll watch the rest of the series.

She was an overbearing twat(like Bwian) on that group travel thing she did in India.

Gnads wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 6:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 1:01pm: Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 7:41am: Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 12:57pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 10:42am: Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;) I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s).... Still got that tinny taste.  Gee, that's what your posts remind me of.  Canned beer.   Never got the taste for it, it always tasted tinny to me.  Two cans per man, per day, perhaps.  I always traded mine.  Made me real popular amongst the drinkers.   ;) The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium. Except to connoisseurs.  Appears your sense of taste is in your boots, Gnads, like so much else about you.  I can taste the "tinny taste" even now.  Quote: When you travel & camp & take all you need ... cans are lighter, don't smash & easier to dispose of ..... everyone collects the empties now. I gave up camping when I resigned from the Army.  Five stars for me, only.  I expect the establishment I am staying at to have bottled beer or beer on tap.  ::) As your taste is in your backside. Connoisseur ey? I thought you were something that started with "C" .....but with 7 less letters. The Pretense of a Craft Beer Snob ey? I drink beers from glass & cans. A 30 pack of cans goes further & is cheaper than 24 of glass in smaller volume bottles. I prefer draught beer but you can't take that with you. Glass bottles or cans .... many pour both into a beer glass.  C'est la vie. If the beer is icy cold it tastes good from either.

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Brian Ross wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 8:41pm:

Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 6:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 1:01pm: Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 7:41am: Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 12:57pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 10:42am: Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;) I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s).... Still got that tinny taste.  Gee, that's what your posts remind me of.  Canned beer.   Never got the taste for it, it always tasted tinny to me.  Two cans per man, per day, perhaps.  I always traded mine.  Made me real popular amongst the drinkers.   ;) The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium. Except to connoisseurs.  Appears your sense of taste is in your boots, Gnads, like so much else about you.  I can taste the "tinny taste" even now.  Quote: When you travel & camp & take all you need ... cans are lighter, don't smash & easier to dispose of ..... everyone collects the empties now. I gave up camping when I resigned from the Army.  Five stars for me, only.  I expect the establishment I am staying at to have bottled beer or beer on tap.  ::) As your taste is in your backside. Connoisseur ey? I thought you were something that started with "C" .....but with 7 less letters. The Pretense of a Craft Beer Snob ey? I drink beers from glass & cans. A 30 pack of cans goes further & is cheaper than 24 of glass in smaller volume bottles. I prefer draught beer but you can't take that with you. Glass bottles or cans .... many pour both into a beer glass.  C'est la vie. If the beer is icy cold it tastes good from either. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png

Yawny fvckwit is contributing to the discussion in positive ways, like he always does....

Brian Ross wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 8:41pm:

Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 6:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 1:01pm: Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 7:41am: Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 12:57pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 10:42am: Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;) I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s).... Still got that tinny taste.  Gee, that's what your posts remind me of.  Canned beer.   Never got the taste for it, it always tasted tinny to me.  Two cans per man, per day, perhaps.  I always traded mine.  Made me real popular amongst the drinkers.   ;) The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium. Except to connoisseurs.  Appears your sense of taste is in your boots, Gnads, like so much else about you.  I can taste the "tinny taste" even now.  Quote: When you travel & camp & take all you need ... cans are lighter, don't smash & easier to dispose of ..... everyone collects the empties now. I gave up camping when I resigned from the Army.  Five stars for me, only.  I expect the establishment I am staying at to have bottled beer or beer on tap.  ::) As your taste is in your backside. Connoisseur ey? I thought you were something that started with "C" .....but with 7 less letters. The Pretense of a Craft Beer Snob ey? I drink beers from glass & cans. A 30 pack of cans goes further & is cheaper than 24 of glass in smaller volume bottles. I prefer draught beer but you can't take that with you. Glass bottles or cans .... many pour both into a beer glass.  C'est la vie. If the beer is icy cold it tastes good from either. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png

What motivates you to be a complete pudenda, every time, all the time??

You must love being soiled, if the responses to your posts are a guide. Why do you love being pood on, Bwian??

Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 8:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 8:41pm: Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 6:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 1:01pm: Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 7:41am: Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 12:57pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 10:42am: Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;) I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s).... Still got that tinny taste.  Gee, that's what your posts remind me of.  Canned beer.   Never got the taste for it, it always tasted tinny to me.  Two cans per man, per day, perhaps.  I always traded mine.  Made me real popular amongst the drinkers.   ;) The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium. Except to connoisseurs.  Appears your sense of taste is in your boots, Gnads, like so much else about you.  I can taste the "tinny taste" even now.  Quote: When you travel & camp & take all you need ... cans are lighter, don't smash & easier to dispose of ..... everyone collects the empties now. I gave up camping when I resigned from the Army.  Five stars for me, only.  I expect the establishment I am staying at to have bottled beer or beer on tap.  ::) As your taste is in your backside. Connoisseur ey? I thought you were something that started with "C" .....but with 7 less letters. The Pretense of a Craft Beer Snob ey? I drink beers from glass & cans. A 30 pack of cans goes further & is cheaper than 24 of glass in smaller volume bottles. I prefer draught beer but you can't take that with you. Glass bottles or cans .... many pour both into a beer glass.  C'est la vie. If the beer is icy cold it tastes good from either. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png Yawny fvckwit is contributing to the discussion in positive ways, like he always does....

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Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 8:41pm: Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 6:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 1:01pm: Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 7:41am: Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 12:57pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 10:42am: Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;) I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s).... Still got that tinny taste.  Gee, that's what your posts remind me of.  Canned beer.   Never got the taste for it, it always tasted tinny to me.  Two cans per man, per day, perhaps.  I always traded mine.  Made me real popular amongst the drinkers.   ;) The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium. Except to connoisseurs.  Appears your sense of taste is in your boots, Gnads, like so much else about you.  I can taste the "tinny taste" even now.  Quote: When you travel & camp & take all you need ... cans are lighter, don't smash & easier to dispose of ..... everyone collects the empties now. I gave up camping when I resigned from the Army.  Five stars for me, only.  I expect the establishment I am staying at to have bottled beer or beer on tap.  ::) As your taste is in your backside. Connoisseur ey? I thought you were something that started with "C" .....but with 7 less letters. The Pretense of a Craft Beer Snob ey? I drink beers from glass & cans. A 30 pack of cans goes further & is cheaper than 24 of glass in smaller volume bottles. I prefer draught beer but you can't take that with you. Glass bottles or cans .... many pour both into a beer glass.  C'est la vie. If the beer is icy cold it tastes good from either. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png What motivates you to be a complete pudenda, every time, all the time?? You must love being soiled, if the responses to your posts are a guide. Why do you love being pood on, Bwian??

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Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 8:41pm: Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 6:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 1:01pm: Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 7:41am: Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 12:57pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 10:42am: Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 12:53am: .. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians...... **chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish** I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys. **pops top of can**   TSK! Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   ;) I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s).... Still got that tinny taste.  Gee, that's what your posts remind me of.  Canned beer.   Never got the taste for it, it always tasted tinny to me.  Two cans per man, per day, perhaps.  I always traded mine.  Made me real popular amongst the drinkers.   ;) The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium. Except to connoisseurs.  Appears your sense of taste is in your boots, Gnads, like so much else about you.  I can taste the "tinny taste" even now.  Quote: When you travel & camp & take all you need ... cans are lighter, don't smash & easier to dispose of ..... everyone collects the empties now. I gave up camping when I resigned from the Army.  Five stars for me, only.  I expect the establishment I am staying at to have bottled beer or beer on tap.  ::) As your taste is in your backside. Connoisseur ey? I thought you were something that started with "C" .....but with 7 less letters. The Pretense of a Craft Beer Snob ey? I drink beers from glass & cans. A 30 pack of cans goes further & is cheaper than 24 of glass in smaller volume bottles. I prefer draught beer but you can't take that with you. Glass bottles or cans .... many pour both into a beer glass.  C'est la vie. If the beer is icy cold it tastes good from either. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png What motivates you to be a complete pudenda, every time, all the time?? You must love being soiled, if the responses to your posts are a guide. Why do you love being pood on, Bwian??

Brian just needs to drink more beer, we all do in these troubled times.

Two cans per day per man per'aps.  I didn't drink for forty years... it's a retirement hobby... I think the Fosters in steel turned me off...

I was appalled to learn that many VVs turned to dope... not my boys....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 22^nd, 2020 at 1:28am:

Two cans per day per man per'aps.  I didn't drink for forty years... it's a retirement hobby... I think the Fosters in steel turned me off... I was appalled to learn that many VVs turned to dope... not my boys....

I didn't drink for a couple of days once, that was bad enough, the 750ml steel cans of Fosters was the best invention ever, the two can per man per day rule was never going to work. Nothing wrong with a bit of dope in moderation.

Johnnie wrote on May 22^nd, 2020 at 2:41am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 22nd, 2020 at 1:28am: Two cans per day per man per'aps.  I didn't drink for forty years... it's a retirement hobby... I think the Fosters in steel turned me off... I was appalled to learn that many VVs turned to dope... not my boys.... I didn't drink for a couple of days once, that was bad enough, the 750ml steel cans of Fosters was the best invention ever, the two can per man per day rule was never going to work. Nothing wrong with a bit of dope in moderation.

Drinking, smoking, doping when you are on the line is not kosher.... not if you want to survive... but I guess I'm some kind of Puritan... and I remember freezing night after night and a few other  things...

Gnads wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 6:37pm:

Frank wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 6:09pm: Gnads wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 1:49pm: Frank wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:07pm: Jasin wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:03pm: Brian stands up for the Aboriginal - they're Australian. Fair suck of the sav Frank. Er... they are not, actually. Australia is a European designation. What did Aborigines call themselves before 1788? Not Australians. They don't call themselves Australians today either. That creamy activist Lydia Thorpe was on a show hosted by that old English, Jewish Lesbian Miriam Margoyles as an example of an Australian Aboriginal ..... she spoke the usual Invasion Day, oppression,discrimination & not being an Aussie bs from her nice Melbourne western home full of western goods with an even whiter daughter than herself. And Margolyes swallowed it hook line & sinker as if Thorpe had lived it for 250 years. ::) Thorpe has about 400 years to catch up on Bwian cos he's 650 .... & he's been everywhere man. Miriam Gargoyles - aint'cha sick of her??? I am. Yes .... I don't think I'll watch the rest of the series. She was an overbearing twat(like Bwian) on that group travel thing she did in India.

Exactly. She IS bwian.

Pouting, twatish. Aunts.

Frank wrote on May 23^rd, 2020 at 7:18pm:

Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 6:37pm: Frank wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 6:09pm: Gnads wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 1:49pm: Frank wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:07pm: Jasin wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:03pm: Brian stands up for the Aboriginal - they're Australian. Fair suck of the sav Frank. Er... they are not, actually. Australia is a European designation. What did Aborigines call themselves before 1788? Not Australians. They don't call themselves Australians today either. That creamy activist Lydia Thorpe was on a show hosted by that old English, Jewish Lesbian Miriam Margoyles as an example of an Australian Aboriginal ..... she spoke the usual Invasion Day, oppression,discrimination & not being an Aussie bs from her nice Melbourne western home full of western goods with an even whiter daughter than herself. And Margolyes swallowed it hook line & sinker as if Thorpe had lived it for 250 years. ::) Thorpe has about 400 years to catch up on Bwian cos he's 650 .... & he's been everywhere man. Miriam Gargoyles - aint'cha sick of her??? I am. Yes .... I don't think I'll watch the rest of the series. She was an overbearing twat(like Bwian) on that group travel thing she did in India. Exactly. She IS bwian. Pouting, twatish. Aunts.

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And there I was, thinking she was a Pom.  Tsk, tsk. You learn something new everyday when Soren reaches into his bag of manure...  ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2020 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on May 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 6:37pm: Frank wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 6:09pm: Gnads wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 1:49pm: Frank wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:07pm: Jasin wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:03pm: Brian stands up for the Aboriginal - they're Australian. Fair suck of the sav Frank. Er... they are not, actually. Australia is a European designation. What did Aborigines call themselves before 1788? Not Australians. They don't call themselves Australians today either. That creamy activist Lydia Thorpe was on a show hosted by that old English, Jewish Lesbian Miriam Margoyles as an example of an Australian Aboriginal ..... she spoke the usual Invasion Day, oppression,discrimination & not being an Aussie bs from her nice Melbourne western home full of western goods with an even whiter daughter than herself. And Margolyes swallowed it hook line & sinker as if Thorpe had lived it for 250 years. ::) Thorpe has about 400 years to catch up on Bwian cos he's 650 .... & he's been everywhere man. Miriam Gargoyles - aint'cha sick of her??? I am. Yes .... I don't think I'll watch the rest of the series. She was an overbearing twat(like Bwian) on that group travel thing she did in India. Exactly. She IS bwian. Pouting, twatish. Aunts. https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223/yawning-face_1f971.png And there I was, thinking she was a Pom.  Tsk, tsk. You learn something new everyday when Soren reaches into his bag of manure...  ::) ::)

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There we were thinking you had something to say.

What, no kinds words for Soren, Set?  He'll be rather disappointed. You need to buck him up, he's feeling lost and lonely, playing in his manure pit, all by his ownsome.   Tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2020 at 10:28pm:

What, no kinds words for Soren, Set?  He'll be rather disappointed. You need to buck him up, he's feeling lost and lonely, playing in his manure pit, all by his ownsome.   Tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)

You seem to think I need to criticise others if I criticise you. Why is that? Is diversion to others the best you can do? Who I criticise and for why is up to me. I've told you why I criticise you and it's irrespective of what others do, you own it all by yourself. I don't need to give kind words to others.

You don't seem to get it and that makes me...
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I don't particularly care if you criticise me but hey, you're free also to criticise others if you feel like, Set.  What you do is your business, not mine.   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2020 at 11:11pm:

I don't particularly care if you criticise me but hey, you're free also to criticise others if you feel like, Set.  What you do is your business, not mine.   ::) ::)

And I do, thanks. On the other hand you obviously care about why I criticise you or you would not keep asking the same question, yeah? If it didn't bother you, you would not ask repetitively and try and deflect to others.

Setanta wrote on May 23^rd, 2020 at 11:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2020 at 11:11pm: I don't particularly care if you criticise me but hey, you're free also to criticise others if you feel like, Set.  What you do is your business, not mine.   ::) ::) And I do, thanks. On the other hand you obviously care about why I criticise you or you would not keep asking the same question, yeah? If it didn't bother you, you would not ask repetitively and try and deflect to others.

It's the ingrained method used by most bedwetting softcorks.

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2020 at 10:28pm:

What, no kinds words for Soren, Set?  He'll be rather disappointed. You need to buck him up, he's feeling lost and lonely, playing in his manure pit, all by his ownsome.   Tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)

The Bwians want equal opportunity piss-take of idiots like them and the gargoyles AND of normal people who aren't Aunts like the Bwians and the gargoyles with their underwear all over the place.  The Bwians don't get it. That's why they ARE Bwians, for not getting it.

A new entry for the urban Dictionary:

A Bwian:
A sad, forlorn fool, lecturing everyone about his cleverness. Has an online, mail-order doktorate but zero self-awareness.

Readers are invited to improve on the above definition of 'a Bwian'.

Gnads wrote on May 24^th, 2020 at 5:41am:

Setanta wrote on May 23rd, 2020 at 11:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2020 at 11:11pm: I don't particularly care if you criticise me but hey, you're free also to criticise others if you feel like, Set.  What you do is your business, not mine.   ::) ::) And I do, thanks. On the other hand you obviously care about why I criticise you or you would not keep asking the same question, yeah? If it didn't bother you, you would not ask repetitively and try and deflect to others. It's the ingrained method used by most bedwetting softcorks.

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Anything of value to add to the thread?  Nope, doesn't appear so.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

Frank wrote on May 25^th, 2020 at 6:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2020 at 10:28pm: What, no kinds words for Soren, Set?  He'll be rather disappointed. You need to buck him up, he's feeling lost and lonely, playing in his manure pit, all by his ownsome.   Tsk, tsk.  ::) ::) The Bwians want equal opportunity piss-take of idiots like them and the gargoyles AND of normal people who aren't Aunts like the Bwians and the gargoyles with their underwear all over the place.  The Bwians don't get it. That's why they ARE Bwians, for not getting it. A new entry for the urban Dictionary: A Bwian: A sad, forlorn fool, lecturing everyone about his cleverness. Has an online, mail-order doktorate but zero self-awareness. Readers are invited to improve on the above definition of 'a Bwian'.

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Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appear so.  Just more playing in your favourite manure pit.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)

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A Bwian:
A sad, forlorn fool, lecturing everyone about his cleverness. Has an online, mail-order doktorate but zero self-awareness. Frequently accompanies his outbursts with gifs of children in distress. Collects gifs of children in distress. Thinks it incisive and effective to support his "argument" to post gifs of children in distress. A sad, forlorn, bewildered old fool with unresolved psycho-sexual baggage about children in distress. Probably past any help as he is in denial.

Frank wrote on May 25^th, 2020 at 8:51pm:

A Bwian: A sad, forlorn fool, lecturing everyone about his cleverness. Has an online, mail-order doktorate but zero self-awareness. Frequently accompanies his outbursts with gifs of children in distress. Collects gifs of children in distress. Thinks it incisive and effective to support his "argument" to post gifs of children in distress. A sad, forlorn, bewildered old fool with unresolved psycho-sexual baggage about children in distress. Probably past any help as he is in denial.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, still playing in the mud like a little baby.  ::)

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"Any questions?"

"Sir!"

"Yes, Hicks?"

"I'm Hudson, sir - HE'S Hicks."

"What's your question?"

"Is this gonna be a stand-up discussion - or just another bitch fest?"

"We have been reliably informed that a xenophobe response or two is involved."

"It's a bitch fight."

Soren has always made this a "bitch fight", Graps.  He cannot bear that anybody disagrees with him.  ::) ::)

Queenslanders will soon be drinking recycled sewage water.

"RECYCLED SEWAGE WATER COULD SOON BE IN OUR TAPS
The State Government has quietly introduced changes that pave the way to adding treated sewage water to southeast Queensland’s drinking supplies."

Meanwhile the Chinese have secured a 100 million litre a year water aquifer extraction operation with a license extending into the next century (and bottling operation) in the often drought ravaged area in southern Queensland.

Queenslanders will have to pay the Chinese for their own water if they don't want to drink sh!t.

Johnnie wrote on May 26^th, 2020 at 4:14pm:

Queenslanders will soon be drinking recycled sewage water. "RECYCLED SEWAGE WATER COULD SOON BE IN OUR TAPS The State Government has quietly introduced changes that pave the way to adding treated sewage water to southeast Queensland’s drinking supplies." Meanwhile the Chinese have secured a 100 million litre a year water aquifer extraction operation with a license extending into the next century (and bottling operation) in the often drought ravaged area in southern Queensland. Queenslanders will have to pay the Chinese for their own water if they don't want to drink sh!t.

Ah, yes - the Socialists like Pale-ass-chick - a title that crosses many political 'boundaries' - love to do what's best for us all without our knowledge or - heaven forbid - consent.

Plebiscites To the People NOW!

"Cr McNally went a step further, saying the council was aware of many individuals extracting underground or bore water in the region and selling it privately to users from outside the region, and there was nothing the council could do about the practice.

“This is happening all over the region and here we are singling out one landowner,” Cr McNally said."

In NSW Coca Cola pumps 66m. litres/year and pays $181. Some Chinese drink cokes.   Major rivers have recycled urine in them particularly during isolation. Don't ask about Bondi beach.

chimera wrote on May 26^th, 2020 at 9:26pm:

"Cr McNally went a step further, saying the council was aware of many individuals extracting underground or bore water in the region and selling it privately to users from outside the region, and there was nothing the council could do about the practice. “This is happening all over the region and here we are singling out one landowner,” Cr McNally said." In NSW Coca Cola pumps 66m. litres/year and pays $181. Some Chinese drink cokes.   Major rivers have recycled urine in them particularly during isolation. Don't ask about Bondi beach.

It's a great move though, the Chinese buy our water to sell back to us.

They can piss off given the current circumstances.

Yanks smuggle coke in for our Coca Cola, abuse our true blue water and fill the barrier reef with plastic bottles. And don't pay for the urine.  Meanwhile farmers are squeezing cow pats for a few drops to boil the billy.  Yanks think the outback is the dunny.

chimera wrote on May 26^th, 2020 at 10:21pm:

Yanks smuggle coke in for our Coca Cola, abuse our true blue water and fill the barrier reef with plastic bottles. And don't pay for the urine.  Meanwhile farmers are squeezing cow pats for a few drops to boil the billy.  Yanks think the outback is the dunny.

At least you are making ground these days.

Chinaman put your hand up in any context in opposition to the CCP, anywhere, we have masks and the internet these days, things may change and prawn chips may not be so popular.

With water sell off's blame those enamoured by free marketeer capitalism that allowed foreign companies to trade in Australian water in the first place.

Blaming Chinese and other foreign owned companies to take advantage of a situation that was created by free marketer conservative governments is just playing the racist game in context....diversionary bull.

Pedro Curevo wrote on May 26^th, 2020 at 11:22pm:

With water sell off's blame those enamoured by free marketeer capitalism that allowed foreign companies to trade in Australian water in the first place. Blaming Chinese and other foreign owned companies to take advantage of a situation that was created by free marketer conservative governments is just playing the racist game in context....diversionary bull.

Nobody wants to be a Wacist but these Chineese are really pushing the envelope, they are the enemy of the world.

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"As China-Australia relations continue to remain in the spotlight, China’s foreign ministry spokesperson has lashed out at “sinister” Australian politicians, and questioned why Australia hasn’t stood up to the US over its “foreign interference”.

Zhao Lijian’s comments on Monday (local time) came after he was questioned on Victoria’s agreement with China for the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), and Peter Dutton’s comments calling the relationship a “propaganda exercise.”

The BRI is an estimated $1.5 trillion foreign and economic policy from the Chinese that will create maritime trade routes globally.

The home affairs minister previously said it was “gravely concerning” Victoria was the only state to come to such an agreement, with the Morrison government criticising the move which is deemed to have undermined Australian foreign policy.

Mr Morrison himself has urged states to "respect and recognise the role of the federal government in setting foreign policy."

However, at the time of signing a memorandum of understanding in 2018, Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews insisted the motivation behind the move was to provide “more jobs and more trade and investment for Victorians.”

Mr Zhao called out internal and external interference over the agreement, insisting the relationship was “completely reasonable, lawful and aboveboard”.

“The groundless accusations made by some Australian politicians are totally untenable,” he said.

“They only expose their negligence of the Australian people’s interests and their sinister intentions of damaging China-Australia relations.”

Mr Zhao called on Australian politicians to “discard ideological prejudices” to prevent Australia and China’s relationship deteriorating further.

China calls for Australia to stand up to ‘bizarre’ US move

Days earlier US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the US wouldn't hesitate to "simply disconnect" from Australia if Victoria's involvement in China's Belt and Road initiative threatens its telecommunications security.

And while the US ambassador to Australia, Arthur Culvahouse, stressed the US had confidence in Australia over the matter, Chinese state-media publication The Global Times warned Australia should be “well prepared to be abandoned at any time” by the US.

“Obviously, what is on the mind of Pompeo and his likes is only US self-interests, and Washington is not going to foot the bill for the lost Australian jobs,” the Chinese mouthpiece publication wrote.

“Australia is already in a passive position in the face of wavering US policy. Canberra is forced to pick a side between Beijing and the Washington even when it is loath to jeopardise its relationship with China.”

Speaking on Monday, Mr Zhao hit out at the US over its interference in the matter, and urged Australia to stand up for itself.

“The threat from American politicians is even more bizarre,” he said.

“Some politicians in Australia have been saying all day long that they oppose "foreign interference" and "Chinese coercion".

“Why don't they stand up against the US? This has once again exposed the deep-rooted ideological bias and double standards of some people on the Australian side.”


Sounds like Oz is a puppet state of China now - and is told to stand up against its own allies... kinda makes you feel like Poland in 1939 or Czechoslovakia in 1938, don' it?

Brian Ross wrote on May 26^th, 2020 at 2:53pm:

Soren has always made this a "bitch fight", Graps.  He cannot bear that anybody disagrees with him.  ::) ::)

That's funny ... neither can you.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26^th, 2020 at 11:56pm:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/china-blasts-australia-belt-and-road-initiative-025547260.html?utm_source=Marketing&utm_medium=EDM&utm_campaign=EDM&utm_term=News&ncid=newsletter_edm_uf9cw7lph94 "As China-Australia relations continue to remain in the spotlight, China’s foreign ministry spokesperson has lashed out at “sinister” Australian politicians, and questioned why Australia hasn’t stood up to the US over its “foreign interference”. Zhao Lijian’s comments on Monday (local time) came after he was questioned on Victoria’s agreement with China for the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), and Peter Dutton’s comments calling the relationship a “propaganda exercise.” The BRI is an estimated $1.5 trillion foreign and economic policy from the Chinese that will create maritime trade routes globally. The home affairs minister previously said it was “gravely concerning” Victoria was the only state to come to such an agreement, with the Morrison government criticising the move which is deemed to have undermined Australian foreign policy. Mr Morrison himself has urged states to "respect and recognise the role of the federal government in setting foreign policy." However, at the time of signing a memorandum of understanding in 2018, Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews insisted the motivation behind the move was to provide “more jobs and more trade and investment for Victorians.” Mr Zhao called out internal and external interference over the agreement, insisting the relationship was “completely reasonable, lawful and aboveboard”. “The groundless accusations made by some Australian politicians are totally untenable,” he said. “They only expose their negligence of the Australian people’s interests and their sinister intentions of damaging China-Australia relations.” Mr Zhao called on Australian politicians to “discard ideological prejudices” to prevent Australia and China’s relationship deteriorating further. China calls for Australia to stand up to ‘bizarre’ US move Days earlier US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the US wouldn't hesitate to "simply disconnect" from Australia if Victoria's involvement in China's Belt and Road initiative threatens its telecommunications security. And while the US ambassador to Australia, Arthur Culvahouse, stressed the US had confidence in Australia over the matter, Chinese state-media publication The Global Times warned Australia should be “well prepared to be abandoned at any time” by the US. “Obviously, what is on the mind of Pompeo and his likes is only US self-interests, and Washington is not going to foot the bill for the lost Australian jobs,” the Chinese mouthpiece publication wrote. “Australia is already in a passive position in the face of wavering US policy. Canberra is forced to pick a side between Beijing and the Washington even when it is loath to jeopardise its relationship with China.” Speaking on Monday, Mr Zhao hit out at the US over its interference in the matter, and urged Australia to stand up for itself. “The threat from American politicians is even more bizarre,” he said. “Some politicians in Australia have been saying all day long that they oppose "foreign interference" and "Chinese coercion". “Why don't they stand up against the US? This has once again exposed the deep-rooted ideological bias and double standards of some people on the Australian side.” Sounds like Oz is a puppet state of China now - and is told to stand up against its own allies... kinda makes you feel like Poland in 1939 or Czechoslovakia in 1938, don' it?

I thought we were standing up for ourselves?...

the Chinese want Aust to standup to the US but not to them....

economic blackmail.

The Morriscum Govt is right on one thing ......

state govts. do not set our Foreign Policy

and Daniel Andrews had no business/right signing up to the Chinese Belt & Road Initiative.

Call me a xenophobe if you wish - but no such deal should ever be entered into without a local dominant and controlling investment and management, and careful oversight, control and monitoring.

Trouble is - the plum jobs will go to 'mates' (again) as reward for services - fat jobs on fine salaries and perks paid in a tax haven for doing next to nothing going to 'retired' politicians who had aided and abetted this kind of takeover and shown their 'friendship' with Chinese government ... and none dare call it treason.  Wouldn't surprise me if some local newbie Chinese politician was slotted into some special spot for 'cultural reasons' and liaison... special ministership or something.

And so the steady erosion of a nation continues...

I'm happy to accept criticism for speaking out....... and I see the need for better control over such 'ventures' - retrospectively.  This is like France or Poland assisting Germany to build autobahns into their territory so as to facilitate troop movements...

"The US ambassador to Australia, Arthur Culvahouse, had to backtrack on the comments on Sunday, after it was pointed out that telecommunications projects in Australia are the responsibility of the federal government.

In addition to Victoria stating it has not and would not enter an agreement with China over a telecommunications project, federal legislation passed in 2018 giving the federal government veto power over telecommunications infrastructure partners effectively bans Chinese companies such as Huawei and ZTE from working on 5G and other similar projects in the future." ABC news.
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The Japanese Asahi water company is pumping Victoria dry. This allows Imperial Emperor tanks to invade to great victory , banzai for Nippon and rising sun.

chimera wrote on May 27^th, 2020 at 9:24am:

"The US ambassador to Australia, Arthur Culvahouse, had to backtrack on the comments on Sunday, after it was pointed out that telecommunications projects in Australia are the responsibility of the federal government. In addition to Victoria stating it has not and would not enter an agreement with China over a telecommunications project, federal legislation passed in 2018 giving the federal government veto power over telecommunications infrastructure partners effectively bans Chinese companies such as Huawei and ZTE from working on 5G and other similar projects in the future." ABC news. - The Japanese Asahi water company is pumping Victoria dry. This allows Imperial Emperor tanks to invade to great victory , banzai for Nippon and rising sun.

This is about highways and waterways .. control of the seas and autobahns worldwide....  the US merely stated that in the event security was in question, they could and would close down affected networks..

Asahi numbah ten... economic warfare at its best ....  WWII never really ended - it was and remains a trade war over control of resources and trade in the Asian Pacific Basin - the only things that change are the antagonists... someone once labeled The Pacific War 'The Second Hundred Years War', and James Jones, in his book "The Thin Red Line", had his main protagonist reciting constantly:-  "Property, property - it's all about property".

Even then countless young men were dying over resource control, same as oil today in the ME.  We are somewhere in the middle of The Second Hundred Years War, with a new menace rising in the East.... now which way will the battle lines be drawn this time?

And why are our politicians all blind to this simple reality?  What good will their mighty pay-offs be once they are true vassals of a despotic foreign state and become the New Province of Austrochine?

Japanese-Chinese royal control of the communist Darwin highway brings Beijing's water-trucks into Tasmania and southern NZ glaciers. Without water , Melbourne burns in mega fires and will become the Tibetan army re-group and blitzkreig theatre for Belt Road River Sand Dunes.

chimera wrote on May 27^th, 2020 at 11:28am:

Japanese-Chinese royal control of the communist Darwin highway brings Beijing's water-trucks into Tasmania and southern NZ glaciers. Without water , Melbourne burns in mega fires and will become the Tibetan army re-group and blitzkreig theatre for Belt Road River Sand Dunes.

If only the Japanese hadn't murdered so many Chinese civilians etc... they might have been friends in this enterprise... now cunning Nippon sits back and waits for China to self-destruct from hubris, then will pick up the pieces and 'assist' China in re-building ...... cunning, yes?

Gnads wrote on May 27^th, 2020 at 7:51am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 26th, 2020 at 2:53pm: Soren has always made this a "bitch fight", Graps.  He cannot bear that anybody disagrees with him.  ::) ::) That's funny ... neither can you.

I can and do, Gnads.  Look at the thousands of posts here that I actually disagree with but don't bother posting about.  I let most of yours go through to the keeper as they aren't worth replying to.  Soren, OTOH never lets any get past him.  He cannot understand why anybody would stand up for Indigenous Australians, Immigrants, Muslims, anybody who he hates.  I seriously think he is mentally ill from his reactions to my posts.  ::) ::)

Gnads wrote on May 27^th, 2020 at 8:01am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26th, 2020 at 11:56pm: https://au.news.yahoo.com/china-blasts-australia-belt-and-road-initiative-025547260.html?utm_source=Marketing&utm_medium=EDM&utm_campaign=EDM&utm_term=News&ncid=newsletter_edm_uf9cw7lph94 "As China-Australia relations continue to remain in the spotlight, China’s foreign ministry spokesperson has lashed out at “sinister” Australian politicians, and questioned why Australia hasn’t stood up to the US over its “foreign interference”. Zhao Lijian’s comments on Monday (local time) came after he was questioned on Victoria’s agreement with China for the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), and Peter Dutton’s comments calling the relationship a “propaganda exercise.” The BRI is an estimated $1.5 trillion foreign and economic policy from the Chinese that will create maritime trade routes globally. The home affairs minister previously said it was “gravely concerning” Victoria was the only state to come to such an agreement, with the Morrison government criticising the move which is deemed to have undermined Australian foreign policy. Mr Morrison himself has urged states to "respect and recognise the role of the federal government in setting foreign policy." However, at the time of signing a memorandum of understanding in 2018, Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews insisted the motivation behind the move was to provide “more jobs and more trade and investment for Victorians.” Mr Zhao called out internal and external interference over the agreement, insisting the relationship was “completely reasonable, lawful and aboveboard”. “The groundless accusations made by some Australian politicians are totally untenable,” he said. “They only expose their negligence of the Australian people’s interests and their sinister intentions of damaging China-Australia relations.” Mr Zhao called on Australian politicians to “discard ideological prejudices” to prevent Australia and China’s relationship deteriorating further. China calls for Australia to stand up to ‘bizarre’ US move Days earlier US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the US wouldn't hesitate to "simply disconnect" from Australia if Victoria's involvement in China's Belt and Road initiative threatens its telecommunications security. And while the US ambassador to Australia, Arthur Culvahouse, stressed the US had confidence in Australia over the matter, Chinese state-media publication The Global Times warned Australia should be “well prepared to be abandoned at any time” by the US. “Obviously, what is on the mind of Pompeo and his likes is only US self-interests, and Washington is not going to foot the bill for the lost Australian jobs,” the Chinese mouthpiece publication wrote. “Australia is already in a passive position in the face of wavering US policy. Canberra is forced to pick a side between Beijing and the Washington even when it is loath to jeopardise its relationship with China.” Speaking on Monday, Mr Zhao hit out at the US over its interference in the matter, and urged Australia to stand up for itself. “The threat from American politicians is even more bizarre,” he said. “Some politicians in Australia have been saying all day long that they oppose "foreign interference" and "Chinese coercion". “Why don't they stand up against the US? This has once again exposed the deep-rooted ideological bias and double standards of some people on the Australian side.” Sounds like Oz is a puppet state of China now - and is told to stand up against its own allies... kinda makes you feel like Poland in 1939 or Czechoslovakia in 1938, don' it? I thought we were standing up for ourselves?... the Chinese want Aust to standup to the US but not to them.... economic blackmail. The Morriscum Govt is right on one thing ...... state govts. do not set our Foreign Policy and Daniel Andrews had no business/right signing up to the Chinese Belt & Road Initiative.

Actually he does as the Premier of the Sovereign State under our Constitution.   It is why the various states have independent commissioners overseas in various places.  You obviously need to learn some Constitutional Law, Gnads.  ::) ::)

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2020 at 12:53pm:

... now cunning Nippon sits back and waits for China to self-destruct from hubris, then will pick up the pieces and 'assist' China in re-building ...... cunning, yes?

What? Waterless Australia is a combined Beijing-Tokyo Axis pincer move. China takes Pilbara and Nips get Artesian Basin.  That way they share the Reef for concrete.  Coca Cola is where the rot sets in.

Brian Ross wrote on May 27^th, 2020 at 2:17pm:

Actually he does as the Premier of the Sovereign State under our Constitution.   It is why the various states have independent commissioners overseas in various places.

Dictator Andrews sends his Royal Melbourne Navy in the Battle of the Murray Water-Bottles. Scomo has s 51 which is power of pork and Vic. can't stop the barrels , bushfires or Belt Road to Beijing except that Dictator Gladys closed the border.