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Title: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Yadda on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 11:43pm

ISLAM in the West - "...this will end in conflict"

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Moslems do not come to the West, [as a means for them] to be separated from the influence of ISLAM in their life

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Denmark: Why Integration Fails

by Judith Bergman
December 21, 2019

"Here my point is that Islam has never fully assimilated into any society and that Muslims have never fully adapted into non-Muslim cultures.

With an increasing number of Muslims in the West, this will end in conflict." — Ahmed Akkari in his new report, "The loyalty conflict in the West – why Muslims are hard to integrate."

.....In a recent survey conducted by the Danish Ministry of Foreigners and Integration (Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet), 48% of descendants of non-Western immigrants in Denmark said that they think it should be forbidden to criticize religion, according to Kristeligt Dagblad.

Forty-two percent of immigrants who had lived in Denmark for three years agreed with the statement, while only 20% of ethnic Danes agreed with it.

....."Islamism works against cohesion with the West -- also when it preaches understanding and democracy -- and it produces a counter-pressure that shows itself in terrorism, gangs and politicized groups.

It shows itself in cynical speculation of influencing political power, not because it accepts democratic life, but because it thereby attempts to become strong enough to overcome it...

......"They use the support of the left to strengthen the grip on Muslims' choices.

They do so by standing as their representatives (often without having asked them for legitimacy of the representation)...

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15294/denmark-integration

The integration of moslem communities, or individual moslems, into Western nations, can never be achieved, successfully.
[....while-ever any individual continues to identify, as being 'a follower of ISLAM'.]

It can never, ever be achieved, because we [Westerners] misunderstand the motive of the moslem in migrating to any particular Western nation.

The moslem migrant does not move to any particular Western nation, in order to 'join himself' to the people of that host nation.

The moslem [whenever he can], will, yes, seek to 'migrate' to any particular Western nation.

But, he does so, .....in order to escape the oppression and the human poverty, and the lawlessness and the institutionalised corruption, and the societal poverty which ISLAM created in his homeland, and which he experienced.

And yet, even though the moslem comes from [has first hand experience of] such a failed and psyche corrupting, 'cultural' environment,
the moslem still pretends ['imagines'], that he still has confidence in his religion, to produce a pure [i.e. moral] society.

So damaged, is he, in his psyche !

Pretends ?

Why so ?

Because the moslem psyche has been damaged and perverted, by the mores and modes of control which ISLAM fosters, within the individual under its nefarious influence.

It is only respect for truth, which can free those in bondage to ISLAM.

[And it is only respect for truth, which can protect the peoples of Western nations, from bondage to ISLAM !!]

But ISLAM has many alluring [controlling] aspects, which remain attractive to the [male] family heads [and to all those with 'dark' souls].

And it is they [predominantly, male family heads], who will always seek to bend the will of every person under their [present] paternal control.

And they rarely, if ever, will choose to relinquish that control.

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'Because the moslem psyche has been damaged and perverted,'....

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Yassmin Abdel-Magied

"ISLAM is the most feminist religion" - Yassmin Abdel-Magied

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"The moslem migrant does not move to any particular Western nation, in order to 'join himself' to that host nation."

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"Willawarrin woman receives Islam garment"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-18/willawarrin-woman-receives-islam-garment-1/11804126

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Yadda on Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 6:25am

Yadda wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 11:43pm:

It is only respect for truth, which can free those in bondage to ISLAM.

[And it is only respect for truth, which can protect the peoples of Western nations, from bondage to ISLAM !!]

Matthew 25:31
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

We ourselves choose.

We choose to separate ourselves, from the 'goats', or, we choose to NOT separate ourselves from the 'goats'.

2 Corinthians 6:17
....come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Jeremiah 15:19
Therefore thus saith the LORD, If thou return, then will I bring thee again, and thou shalt stand before me: and if thou take forth the precious from the vile, thou shalt be as my mouth: let them return unto thee; but return not thou unto them.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1561806794/7#7

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'Reality'.

It is what we 'see'.

It is what we perceive.

And it will be our reward.

Psalms 28:4
Give them according to their deeds, and according to the wickedness of their endeavours: give them after the work of their hands; render to them their desert.

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Romans 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1550575923/6#6

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John 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Psalms 5:4
For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

['leasing' = = deceitful]

Psalms 146:8
The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:

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How can a person ensure that the angel of the spirit of God will NOT be his helper ?

Jeremiah 9:3
And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.
4 Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders.
5 And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity.
6 Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.

Our choices.

Our consequences.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 4:35am

Islamist terror our main danger: ASIO
Senate Estimates ASIO
Right-wing terrorism is a ‘small but significant’ part of our extremist threat, but is dwarfed by that posed by Islamic radicals

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Yadda on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 10:10am

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 4:35am:

Islamist terror our main danger: ASIO
Senate Estimates ASIO
Right-wing terrorism is a ‘small but significant’ part of our extremist threat, but is dwarfed by that posed by Islamic radicals

And always [again, and again], we see ISLAMISTS and their LEFTIST apologists within every Western society, seeking to minimise the perceptions, of the very real threat from the treasonous intentions of followers of ISLAM.

And we see those very same 'bad actors', constantly trying to increase the influence, upon government [and government policies], to favour their community's demands.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Yadda on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 10:16am

We have a 5th column, working inside Western society's today.

And it isn't the ISLAMISTS !

It is the Socialists and the Marxists, within our own ranks [society's].

Mark 3:25
.....if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by moses on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 2:35pm

The fourth horseman is at full gallop right now, the useful idiots and the pope are clearing the way for him.

The cycle of the universe is heading into abominable weather patterns, the loony left seizes on this, to promote their sick psychology of, hate the white Christian based west for everything.

All predicted over 2000 years ago.

It's coming as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 3:47pm

moses wrote on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 2:35pm:

The fourth horseman is at full gallop right now,

You really are a loon, Moses. You realise that? ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Yadda on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 9:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 3:47pm:

moses wrote on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 2:35pm:

The fourth horseman is at full gallop right now,

You really are a loon, Moses. You realise that? ::) ::)

The 'product' of ISLAM, is dead bodies [...and political oppression].

You realise that?

Syria.

Iraq.

Saudi Arabia.

Iran.

Somalia.

Sudan.

Pakistan.

Afghanistan.

Egypt.

Libya.

Yemen.

....and on, and on, and on, and on.

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Quote:

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

- ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......PROMOTING, JUSTIFYING, ISLAM's VIOLENT JIHAD

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And LEFTIST government policy makers in the 1st world, allow this HUMAN EXCREMENT to migrate, to 1st world nations.

It is appalling.

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WWW search....
Denmark: Twenty Muslims arrested as jihad massacre plot is foiled

Dec 12, 2019

Season's greetings infidels !!

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These are a people, WHO DID NOT BUILD OUR NATIONS,
...but it is their intention to destroy everything, within our nations, which is non-ISLAM.

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These are the people, whom our governments are,
allowing to live among us, and to walk past us, on our streets.

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ARGUMENT;
Those people [in the images above] are human sewage, EVERY ONE OF THEM.

Examine the signs and the placards which they are holding.

"[our] Jihad will continue..."

"[our] ISLAM will dominate the world..."

Yadda paraphrases;

'We will continue to slaughter and to murder you, ....until we prevail against you!'

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 10:21pm

Yadda wrote on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 3:47pm:

moses wrote on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 2:35pm:

The fourth horseman is at full gallop right now,

You really are a loon, Moses. You realise that? ::) ::)

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

It's all that horse-tail, coarse black hair I object to. They CULTIVATE it. Hideous. They look evil - and want to!!!

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Yadda on Dec 27^th, 2019 at 10:27pm

@ Reply #8,

Its all in their genes.

Genesis 1:24
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind......and it was so.

In the genes.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:17pm

Islam will never be reconciled with Western ideals, Muslims will never fit in in the West.

The conflict is guaranteed. Bring in more Muslims = bring in more conflict.

Killing infidels is an act of Islamic worship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LZA3_1LbWY

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:47pm

Frank wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:17pm:

Spoken by a creature who suffers from Islamophobia, right, Soren? Tsk, tsk. ::)

You need help. Real help. ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 9:24pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:47pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:17pm:

Spoken by a creature who suffers from Islamophobia, right, Soren? Tsk, tsk. ::)

You need help. Real help. ::)

Islam is conflict. Everywhere. The Religion of Perpetual Conflict. Born in conflict, lives in conflict, brings nothing but conflict.

What do you embrace about Islam, Bwian? You always avoid answering that. Are you a Musulman? If not, what do you like about Islam? Not a complex question.
Me - nothing. I reject it completely.

You?

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by PZ547 on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 9:32pm

news tonight claimed that Germans, and Merkel, are increasingly worried about their fate after Brexit

and Nostradamus claimed islam will be stopped in southern England

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 11:11pm

Frank wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:47pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:17pm:

Spoken by a creature who suffers from Islamophobia, right, Soren? Tsk, tsk. ::)

You need help. Real help. ::)

I am not a Muslim so I don't embrace anything about it as a religion, Soren. Muslims? I embrace at least one as a comrade-in-arms. Abdul was a fine Australian soldier. He was a Muslim as well. He has no time to waste with Terrorism or violence or anything like that (in civilian life). I wish you could meet a man as great as he is sometime in your life, Soren. It would do you the world of good. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by moses on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 3:42pm

France: Girl, 16, receives death threats and “200 messages of pure hatred a minute” for insulting Islam online
JAN 24, 2020

The 16-year-old has been advised to stay away from her lycée (sixth-form college) in southeast France after calls on the internet for her to be killed, raped or attacked.

Of course the sick twisted *moderates* and their lunatic leftard supporters will howl in anguish, as they slither around, telling us that's not what islam is about.

How long will these evil pricks keep lying to us?

There is no possible way you can insult islam, it is a depraved degenerate death cult.

If it isn't, why do the muslims fall over themselves in their haste to slaughter innocent people?

The truth is long overdue when we speak about this cult and its' beginnings.

Truth is the enemy of islam, islam will die the very day the truth is finally accepted as a precept for society.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 6:03pm

10-year-old Muslim girl threatened. The 10-year-old has been advised to stay away from her school

Of course the sick twisted *immoderates* and their lunatic Rightard supporters will howl in anguish, as they slither around, telling us that's not what Christianity is about.

How long will these evil pricks keep lying to us?

There is no possible way you can insult Christianity, it is a depraved degenerate death cult.

If it isn't, why do the Christians fall over themselves in their haste to slaughter innocent people?

The truth is long overdue when we speak about this cult and its' beginnings.

Truth is the enemy of Christianity, which will die the very day the truth is finally accepted as a precept for society. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Bias_2012 on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 7:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 6:03pm:

The topic is not about Christianity, it's about Islam numpty

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 10:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 6:03pm:

The creamy nuns stuck their fingers up your bum, Bwian, and now you are frothing for life.

:D :D

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:51am

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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 11:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:47pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:17pm:

Spoken by a creature who suffers from Islamophobia, right, Soren? Tsk, tsk. ::)

You need help. Real help. ::)

So Abdul had nuffin' to do wiv Islam, then. You roll him out to hide your dishonesty.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 11:27am

Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 10:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 6:03pm:

~~The creamy nuns stuck their fingers up your bum, Bwian, and now you are frothing for life.~~

Nothing valuable to add to the thread? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 11:29am

Frank wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:51am:

H
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 11:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:47pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:17pm:

Spoken by a creature who suffers from Islamophobia, right, Soren? Tsk, tsk. ::)

You need help. Real help. ::)

~~So Abdul had nuffin' to do wiv Islam, then. You roll him out to hide your dishonesty.~~

Just more mud spreading down on the farm, hey, Soren? Tsk, tsk, ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by moses on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 4:07pm

Nothing dangerous was found, but they still don't know who wrote the note.

Updated: November 15, 2018 -

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France: Girl, 16, receives death threats and “200 messages of pure hatred a minute” for insulting Islam online
JAN 24, 2020

The 16-year-old has been advised to stay away from her lycée (sixth-form college) in southeast France after calls on the internet for her to be killed, raped or attacked.

Well gee I mean a kid gets a note in 2018, no one knows who wrote it.

against

A girl gets death threats and over 200 messages of hatred a minute, in 2020.

I dunno I just can't see them as being anything like each other

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Auggie on Feb 5^th, 2020 at 8:47pm

Islam will dominate the world!!?

How are they going to do that?

Are they going to swim here??

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by moses on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:33pm

They've already got you eating food that's been given the satanic approval of allah.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:41pm

moses wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:33pm:

They've already got you eating food that's been given the satanic approval of allah.

What is your opinion then of Kosher food, Moses? It is basically the same rules WRT cleanliness and slaughter. Are Jews followers of "Satan" as well? ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by moses on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:02pm

I don't know anything about Kosher food in Australia at all.

Is it as wide spread as halal?

On the other hand, we all know the Jews are nothing like the muslims, they don't seek to force everyone around the globe to practice Judaism.

The Jews are not the world wide threat muslims are.

The problems we have to solve today 2020, all have their roots in islamic depravity, nothing at all to do with Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism etc..

islam is the problem, halal certification therefore is part and parcel of our global troubles.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:12pm

moses wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:02pm:

Has a Muslim ever knocked on your door and then tried to convert you to their religion?

Have you ever seen them handing out religious pamphlets in the street?

Have you ever met a Muslim anywhere, in any situation, who has talked to you endlessly about their religion?

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by moses on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:15pm

Yeah sure muslims around the globe aren't killing unbelievers.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:17pm

moses wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

Yeah sure muslims around the globe aren't killing unbelievers.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:47pm

moses wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:02pm:

I don't know anything about Kosher food in Australia at all.

Is it as wide spread as halal?

You wouldn't know, now would you, Moses? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Quote:

On the other hand, we all know the Jews are nothing like the muslims, they don't seek to force everyone around the globe to practice Judaism.

I wonder what the Palestinians think about that statement, Moses?

Quote:

The Jews are not the world wide threat muslims are.

The problems we have to solve today 2020, all have their roots in islamic depravity, nothing at all to do with Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism etc..

islam is the problem, halal certification therefore is part and parcel of our global troubles.

Muslims are not a "world wide threat" either, Moses, except in your islamophobic imagination. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Halal just describes how food is to be prepared. You are free not to purchase it, if you so desire, Moses. No one is forcing you to eat it. ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by moses on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 1:27pm

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Currently listed organisation are:

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Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by freediver on Feb 9^th, 2020 at 8:18am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Quote:

On the other hand, we all know the Jews are nothing like the muslims, they don't seek to force everyone around the globe to practice Judaism.

I wonder what the Palestinians think about that statement, Moses?

The sane ones are living and working in Israel, thankful that the Jews created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:50am

We insist, whenever such terrorist incidents occur, that the attack was ‘nothing to do with Islam’. And yet we are not consistent in this belief. The way in which we treat the perpetrators later always contains a genuflection toward the suggestion that these people are in some way enemy combatants on account of their faith. They are afforded imams, they are quartered with other Muslims, they are sent on deradicalisation programmes where Muslim community elders address their violent, er, shortcomings.

Why do any of this? If we are serious that these attacks have nothing to do with Islam then let us apply some consistency to this apparent conviction. If somebody wishes to kill as many people as possible because they do not believe precisely what that person believes, and further holds that their reward for doing so will be an endless succession of hoor al ayn, they are clearly mad and should be sectioned, incarcerated permanently as a consequence of their derangement. That is what we would do to someone possessed of similar narcissistic delusions who did not dignify them by recourse to the Quran. They are all simply psychopaths, not simple criminals, and should be treated as such.

Wanting to murder us all is surely a conviction rooted in insanity — and given that we have decided the likes of Amman are insane, we can hold them indefinitely and not let them out to be trailed across the country by plain-clothes policemen, waiting for them to stab someone. It would be hard for anyone to oppose such an approach, seeing as it also tidily removes Islam, and thus the wider and blameless (ahem) Muslim population, from the equation.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2020/02/wanting-to-kill-us-all-is-madness-not-religion/

So no Koran, no imam, no other Muslims in the same prison area, no halal food - nothing Islamic since jihadi terrorism has nuffin' to do wiv Islam. If it is really lone wolves with mental health issues then sanction them and lock them up until they are cured or until they due, whichever comes sooner.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by moses on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 12:16pm

Approximately 3000 years ago The Messiah was foretold in the O.T.

The Messiah was going to bear the brunt of mans' sins.

This essentially meant that the ancient Law became defunct.

Why?

The Law is a record of sins and their required appeasement sacrifices.

If Christ bore the brunt of all sin, then this did away with all the sacrifices listed as appeasement for sin.

There is one and one only sacrificial appeasement required, *the blood of Christ* became the only sacrifice required for forgiveness.

So man was no longer justified by the Law, man can only be saved by faith in Christ alone.

Christ came, fulfilled the law and ushered in the era of grace.

Every year millions of animals are cruelly slaughtered as sacrificial appeasement to some god or other.

For the last 2020 years Christianity stands alone, there is no blood cruelly spilled to mollify a god, they offer the faith that they believe that Christ died for their sins (as told in the old and new testaments.)

For two millennia this has been the case, today we have 1.5 billion Christians who all believe this.

It's the accepted established fact that Faith in Christ is the only way man can be saved.

Now because the depraved degenerate doctrine of the muslims is a global problem, we have sick lunatic leftard-muslim hybrids all sniveling around telling us the Judaeo-Christian doctrine is no better.

Why do they lie to protect a death cult?

Because they prefer the daily atrocities of the muslims, over telling the truth about the depravity in the qur'an.

*moderates* and lunatic apologists are the duo of evil that is the millstone around the neck of civilization at this point in time.

We can never go forward until we tell the truth about this duo of evil.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 12:26pm

freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2020 at 8:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Quote:

On the other hand, we all know the Jews are nothing like the muslims, they don't seek to force everyone around the globe to practice Judaism.

I wonder what the Palestinians think about that statement, Moses?

The sane ones are living and working in Israel, thankful that the Jews created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth.

You mean the Israel which prohibits hiring of Palestinians to live or work in Israel, FD? ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by freediver on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 12:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 12:26pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2020 at 8:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

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On the other hand, we all know the Jews are nothing like the muslims, they don't seek to force everyone around the globe to practice Judaism.

I wonder what the Palestinians think about that statement, Moses?

The sane ones are living and working in Israel, thankful that the Jews created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth.

You mean the Israel which prohibits hiring of Palestinians to live or work in Israel, FD? ::) ::)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

Many Arab citizens of Israel self-identify as Palestinian and commonly self-designate themselves as Palestinian citizens of Israel or Israeli Palestinians.

Not a question Brian, no need need to respond with your usual idiotic dribble.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm

freediver wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 12:26pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2020 at 8:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Quote:

On the other hand, we all know the Jews are nothing like the muslims, they don't seek to force everyone around the globe to practice Judaism.

I wonder what the Palestinians think about that statement, Moses?

The sane ones are living and working in Israel, thankful that the Jews created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth.

You mean the Israel which prohibits hiring of Palestinians to live or work in Israel, FD? ::) ::)

They are not citizens of Israel. They are Palestinians from the Occupied Territories, FD. There is a world of difference legally between the two groups. You claim that it was possible for Palestinians to live and be employed in Israel. It isn't. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

Arab citizens of Israel,[3] or Arab Israelis, are Israeli citizens who are Arab. Many Arab citizens of Israel self-identify as Palestinian and commonly self-designate themselves as Palestinian citizens of Israel or Israeli Palestinians.[4][5] According to a 2017 survey by University of Haifa professor Sammy Smooha, 16% of the Arab population prefers the term "Israeli Arab", while the largest and fastest growing proportion prefers "Palestinian in Israel", and 17% prefer "Palestinian Arab", rejecting entirely the identity of "Israeli".[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by freediver on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 12:26pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2020 at 8:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Quote:

On the other hand, we all know the Jews are nothing like the muslims, they don't seek to force everyone around the globe to practice Judaism.

I wonder what the Palestinians think about that statement, Moses?

The sane ones are living and working in Israel, thankful that the Jews created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth.

You mean the Israel which prohibits hiring of Palestinians to live or work in Israel, FD? ::) ::)

You are confused Brian. Have you tried reading before responding?

Again, not a question Brian, no need need to respond with your usual idiotic dribble.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:16pm

freediver wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 12:26pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2020 at 8:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Quote:

On the other hand, we all know the Jews are nothing like the muslims, they don't seek to force everyone around the globe to practice Judaism.

I wonder what the Palestinians think about that statement, Moses?

The sane ones are living and working in Israel, thankful that the Jews created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth.

You mean the Israel which prohibits hiring of Palestinians to live or work in Israel, FD? ::) ::)

You are confused Brian. Have you tried reading before responding?

Again, not a question Brian, no need need to respond with your usual idiotic dribble.

When you answer my questions, I may answer yours, Fd. ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:17pm

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

Arab citizens of Israel],[3] or Arab Israelis, are Israeli citizens who are Arab. Many Arab citizens of Israel self-identify as Palestinian and commonly self-designate themselves as Palestinian citizens of Israel or Israeli Palestinians.[4][5] According to a 2017 survey by University of Haifa professor Sammy Smooha, 16% of the Arab population prefers the term "Israeli Arab", while the largest and fastest growing proportion prefers "Palestinian in Israel", and 17% prefer "Palestinian Arab", rejecting entirely the identity of "Israeli".[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

They are Israelis, Soren, not Palestinians. Tsk, tsk, appears you have a reading comprehension problem. You should seek help. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by freediver on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 9:59pm

Brian is confused. Even more confused than you might assume.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_workers_in_Israel

According to January 1, 2015 Administration of Border Crossings, Population and Immigration report, there are 55,200 jobs that are dedicated to Palestinian workers.

In 2011, the Palestinian Authority (PA) claimed it would take actions to limit the number of Palestinians who are employed in Israel and in settlements. Shaher Saad, the Secretary General of the Palestinian workers association said that such action can't be done because the PA doesn't provide any alternative. He stated that 35,000 Palestinian workers are employed within Israel and in the settlements which provide the local economy with 2 billion dollars budget every year.[4]

So tell us more about those nasty Jews Brian....

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:17pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

They are Israelis, Soren, not Palestinians.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You ARE a loon!! A militantly ignorant loon.

Tell us about the ethnic and cultural difference between the Arabs IN Israel with Israeli citizenship and the Arabs in the WB and Gaza without?

Did the Israeli Arabs lose their Palestinian-ness when they became Israeli citizens - but their cousins remained Palestinians merely for not acquiring Israeli citizenship??

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by freediver on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 7:17pm

I think this plot by those cunning Jews which Brian has uncovered deserves a thread of its own.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:26pm

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:17pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

They are Israelis, Soren, not Palestinians.

It is not a question of ethnicity, mate. It is a question of nationality. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:17pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

They are Israelis, Soren, not Palestinians.

It is not a question of ethnicity, mate. It is a question of nationality. ::) ::)

Considering that there is NO Palestinian nationality, explain the difference in this particular situation, bozo.

'Palestinians' are just Arabs. There has never been a 'Palestinian' nation or ethnicity. They are just Arabs who existed under the the various empires, most recently the ottomans and the British.

No 'Palestinian' nation, nor 'Palestinian' ethnicity.

Arabs. and... er... that's it.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 9:41pm

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:17pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

They are Israelis, Soren, not Palestinians.

It is not a question of ethnicity, mate. It is a question of nationality. ::) ::)

Such old fashioned thinking, Soren. The rest of the world disagrees with you. The Palestinians disagree with you and even the Israelis, disagree with you. Even FD disagrees with you. I disagree with you. Time you caught up with the rest of us in 2020. ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Karnal on Feb 14^th, 2020 at 11:24pm

I agree with him, Brian. Danes are just Scandinavians.

You?

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 15^th, 2020 at 12:17pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14^th, 2020 at 11:24pm:

I agree with him, Brian. Danes are just Scandinavians.

You?

I think that is a perfectly adequate classification for Danes, Karnal. Perhaps they are all Vikings? :)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 8:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 9:41pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:17pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

They are Israelis, Soren, not Palestinians.

It is not a question of ethnicity, mate. It is a question of nationality. ::) ::)

Bullshit, Bwian, as always from you.

There has never been a Palestinian nation, political entity, nothing. They are just Arabs that other Arabs do not want.
Nationhood us a Western idea anyway, a kuffar idea.
Its all just about the psychosis they have about the Jews not copping the abuse from the Islamists like they used to for centuries. The Arabs can't digest it. Losing to the Jews, despite what Mohammed told them is maddening, it's cognitive dissonance on an epic scale for Mohammedans.

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 8:27pm

Frank wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 8:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 9:41pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:17pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

They are Israelis, Soren, not Palestinians.

It is not a question of ethnicity, mate. It is a question of nationality. ::) ::)

~~Bullshit, Bwian, as always from you.~~

There gas never been a palestinian nation, political entity, nothing. They are just Arabs that other arabs do not want.

Perhaps they don't want them 'cause they have a different culture to mainstream Arabs, Soren?

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Nationhood us a Western idea anyway, a kuffar idea.

Seems to be one everybody likes, Soren. ::)

Quote:

Its all just about the psychosis they have about the Jews not copping the abuse from the Islamists like they used to for centuries. The Arabs can't digest it. Losing to the Jews, despite what Mohammed told them is maddening, it's cognitive dissonance on an epic scale for Mohamedans.

I bet you just want to abuse some Jews yourself, Soren. Afterall, your granddad loaded Jews onto trains headed for the camps, right? ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Karnal on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 8:39pm

Frank wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 8:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 9:41pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:17pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

They are Israelis, Soren, not Palestinians.

It is not a question of ethnicity, mate. It is a question of nationality. ::) ::)

Bullshit, Bwian, as always from you.

There gas never been a palestinian nation, political entity, nothing. They are just Arabs that other arabs do not want.

Always absolutely never ever, no?

Quote:

Before the British occupation, Palestine was part of Ottoman Syria. The British army ruled Palestine until a civil administration was established on 1 July 1920. Britain was granted a Mandate for Palestine on 25 April 1920 at the San Remo Conference, and, on 24 July 1922, this mandate was approved by the League of Nations.

The British determined the borders of Palestine according to other agreements they had made with their allies. For example, they transferred the eastern bank of the Jordan River to the control of Abdullah ibn Husayn (1882-1951) of the Hashemite dynasty and appointed him King of Jordan in recognition of his support during the war.

https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/british_mandate_for_palestine

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Frank on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 5:46pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 8:39pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 8:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 9:41pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:17pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

They are Israelis, Soren, not Palestinians.

It is not a question of ethnicity, mate. It is a question of nationality. ::) ::)

Bullshit, Bwian, as always from you.

There gas never been a palestinian nation, political entity, nothing. They are just Arabs that other arabs do not want.

Always absolutely never ever, no?

Quote:

https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/british_mandate_for_palestine

BRITISH or Ottoman or Roman Territory = Palestine.
People = Arabs.

Territory = Jordan
People = Jordanians (Arabs with a nationality)

Title: Re: ISLAM in the West - this will end in conflict
Post by Karnal on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 10:09pm

Frank wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 5:46pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 8:39pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 8:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 9:41pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:17pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:08pm:

They are Israelis, Soren, not Palestinians.

It is not a question of ethnicity, mate. It is a question of nationality. ::) ::)

Bullshit, Bwian, as always from you.

There gas never been a palestinian nation, political entity, nothing. They are just Arabs that other arabs do not want.

Always absolutely never ever, no?

Quote:

https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/british_mandate_for_palestine

BRITISH or Ottoman or Roman Territory = Palestine.
People = Arabs.

Territory = Jordan
People = Jordanians (Arabs with a nationality)

Muslim = a follower of Islam.

Old boy = a very sore bottom, as every schoolboy knows.