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Message started by Sir lastnail on Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:23am

Title: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:23am
But whatever you do don't mention climate change because I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it :D LOL

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/deputy-pm-slammed-after-attacking-woke-capital-city-greenies-during-bushfires


Quote:
Deputy PM slammed after attacking 'woke capital city greenies' during bushfires

Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack has attacked people for linking climate change to conditions which enabled fires in NSW and Queensland to take hold.

The deputy prime minister has faced criticism after launching a full-throated attack against the "disgraceful, disgusting" behaviour of people linking climate change to the bushfires in Queensland and NSW.

Three people have been killed and 150 homes destroyed in NSW, while there are still 45 fires burning in central Queensland.

Firefighters across Sydney and NSW are bracing for "catastrophic" conditions on Tuesday.

"We've had fires in Australia since time began, and what people need now is sympathy, understanding, help and shelter," Michael McCormack told ABC on Monday.

"They don't need the ravings of some pure, enlightened and woke capital city greenies at this time."

'A dangerous fool'

In response, Greens MP Adam Bandt labelled the deputy prime minister a "dangerous fool" who was putting lives at risk.

"Thoughts and prayers are not enough, we need science and action too," Mr Bandt told reporters on Monday.

"They've done everything in their power to make these catastrophic fires more likely.

"When you cuddle coal in Canberra, the rest of the country burns."

Glen Innes Severn Council mayor Carol Sparks - whose home was severely damaged in a bushfire that killed two people - said "Michael McCormack needs to read the science".

"It is not a political thing. It is a scientific fact that we are going through climate change," she told ABC.

"We haven't had rain for years in some places. All the dams and creeks and rivers are dry, and we need to look at what we're going to do about that in the future," she said.

"To deny climate change is, to me, a very ill-informed and uneducated way of looking at things."

But Labor Senator Penny Wong refused to get caught in the war of words, saying the immediate focus should be on the fires.

"We've got people grieving, we've got communities at risk, we've got extraordinarily brave Australians fighting fires. This is not the time to get into that kind of debate," she said.

"Let's get through this crisis. That should be our focus now."






Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:30am

Why does his god allow these things to happen?

Does he need to clap harder/louder?


Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:30am:
Why does his god allow these things to happen?

Does he need to clap harder/louder?



Only god knows will be his answer :D LOL

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:30am:
Why does his god allow these things to happen?

Does he need to clap harder/louder?



Too many ppl masterbating

Spot
i-keep-sending-them-hurricanes-but-they-keep-masturbating-ds-31606332.png (150 KB | 23 )

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by Frank on Nov 11th, 2019 at 6:50pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:30am:
Why does his god allow these things to happen?

Does he need to clap harder/louder?



Too many ppl masterbating

Spot

What would YOU TWO FAPPER DO if you were PM??

What is YOUR solution?





Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by macman on Nov 12th, 2019 at 6:49am
Probally the same as you wank, nothing.

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 12th, 2019 at 7:32am

Frank wrote on Nov 11th, 2019 at 6:50pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11th, 2019 at 10:30am:
Why does his god allow these things to happen?

Does he need to clap harder/louder?



Too many ppl masterbating

Spot

What would YOU TWO FAPPER DO if you were PM??

What is YOUR solution?


Well for a start i would have a policy that funding wouldn't be taken from fire stations and i wouldn't allow them to be closed downright at bushfire time

Spot

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 12th, 2019 at 7:47am
https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/11/11/nsw-bushfires-budget-cut/

https://www.thebigsmoke.com.au/2019/11/11/morrison-cut-funding-and-ignored-fire-chiefs-before-nsw-blaze/

There was some pollie in QLD actually closed stations

Spot

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by lee on Nov 12th, 2019 at 11:14am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 7:47am:
https://www.thebigsmoke.com.au/2019/11/11/morrison-cut-funding-and-ignored-fire-...



And here I was thinking Fire and Emergency services were a state matter.

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 12th, 2019 at 11:37am
the wind here is 45kph

Spot

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by Frank on Nov 12th, 2019 at 5:42pm

lee wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 11:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 7:47am:
https://www.thebigsmoke.com.au/2019/11/11/morrison-cut-funding-and-ignored-fire-...



And here I was thinking Fire and Emergency services were a state matter.

Big Smoke:

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https://www.tseliosmediagroup.com/about

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by AaronCRescue on Nov 12th, 2019 at 5:53pm

lee wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 11:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 7:47am:
https://www.thebigsmoke.com.au/2019/11/11/morrison-cut-funding-and-ignored-fire-...



And here I was thinking Fire and Emergency services were a state matter.


Ditto Schools/Teachers, Police, Hospitals, buses and trains, etc. Gotta blame the Federal Government for it all.  ::)

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by philperth2010 on Nov 12th, 2019 at 6:22pm

lee wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 11:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 7:47am:
https://www.thebigsmoke.com.au/2019/11/11/morrison-cut-funding-and-ignored-fire-...



And here I was thinking Fire and Emergency services were a state matter.


Why are those in the Coalition blaming the Greens then???


Quote:
The comments came after chief political reporter Kieran Gilbert asked Mr Joyce about his claims that The Greens were to blame for increased bushfire risk because of the party’s opposition to hazard reduction burns, particularly in national parks.


Opposition is the optimal word....If the State fire authority wants to do controlled burns the greens can oppose but not prevent....Joyce is a complete ass hole!!!

::) ::) ::)

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/greens-policies-blamed-for-increased-fire-risks/news-story/bdf3d8ac083d06ba468f7135881f45b8

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by lee on Nov 12th, 2019 at 6:40pm

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 6:22pm:
Why are those in the Coalition blaming the Greens then???



Perhaps greens at local government level. They are ones that make the rules regarding clearance from buildings for fires. I mean you didn't think they were talking about federal Greens did you?;)


philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 6:22pm:
If the State fire authority wants to do controlled burns the greens can oppose but not prevent....Joyce is a complete ass hole!!!


The state governments are not at the local level. ;)

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 6:22pm:
.Joyce is a complete ass hole!!!


I have commented on Joyce elsewhere.

Edit: "Green hostility to hazard reduction is on the record, from the light green nimbies who object to smoke, to the green lobbyists who infiltrate government decision-making, to the green activists who embed themselves in government departments and agencies, to the obstructive bureacuratic green tape which makes the job of volunteer firefighters trying to perform cool fuel reduction burns impossible, to the green NGOs who pressure politicians and private companies and greenmail institutional investors, right up to the political arm of green ideology, The Greens Party. There is plenty more. All recorded."
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/miranda-devine/green-arrogance-burns-fiercely/news-story/ed1f49f1e1ff11f820aa59059ea23e21

There are links in the storyline. ;)

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 12th, 2019 at 7:13pm
Anyone with more than half a functioning brain knows the greens are a pox on Australia.

I wonder how many soy latte sipping recreational drug taking greenies in Newtown or Balmain are out fighting these bushfires.

Was it leftist lunacy that created this problem?


Quote:
Qld landholder hit with record $1m penalty for making fire breaks too wide
James Nason, March 23, 2017

How wide can a fire-break be in Queensland?
Getting the answer wrong, despite receiving conflicting advice from several different Queensland Government staff, has just resulted in a Queensland landowner being forced to pay $999,780 in fines and costs.
That figure – a record since Queensland’s Vegetation Management Act came into effect in 1999 – incorporates a $276,000 fine and an order to pay the Government $723, 780 in costs.

In the wake of the severe punishment, which has left the landowner devastated according to his legal team, landowners seeking to undertake future clearing works in areas containing native vegetation, even if for a firebreak, fenceline or road, are being urged to urgently seek legal advice before starting.

Court decision
Michael Vincent Baker of Chess Park, Eidsvold, was this week found guilty in the Brisbane Magistrate Court of the unauthorised clearing of 367.5 hectares of native vegetation.
Mr Baker was found guilty of 39 charges under the Vegetation Management Act and 7 charges under the Forestry Act relating to the width of clearing associated with firebreaks, fence lines and access tracks on his property, and also failing to comply with the self-assessable code for Native Forest Practice.

The total costs incurred by the Queensland Government in pursuing this prosecution, as disclosed to the court, were $2.2 million.

Lack of clarity over allowable fire-break widths:
Mr Marland has previously indicated that before Mr Baker commenced the clearing in question, he contacted 32 different Government employees seeking advice on the acceptable width of fire breaks.
He said he received conflicting advice ranging from 1.5 metres wide to “1.5 times the height of the tallest tree”.
The Vegetation Management Act (VMA) provided an exemption for clearing remnant vegetation if the clearing was to establish a fire break, and provided the break was “no more than 20 metres wide or 1.5 times the height of the nearest vegetation”.
The Act also allowed for “the clearing necessary” to remove or reduce the imminent risk that the vegetation poses of serious personal injury or damage to infrastructure.

Mr Baker was motivated to construct effective fire breaks because his 9242 hectare property Chess Park was almost totally burnt out by bushfire soon after he bought the property in May 2011.
The fires caused $300,000 worth of damage to property infrastructure. After that event, Mr Baker was determined to construct fire breaks to protect his family, property and livestock from future fires.

He said Mr Baker applied the advice of “1.5 times the tallest tree” in determining the width of his fire breaks – narrower firebreaks would provide no protection if a burning tree fell across the break and continued the fire on the other side.
With trees measuring between 18 and 32 metres, an average of 25 metres was applied, resulting in  fire break widths of 40 metres.
Mr Baker advised the Department of his plan and his intention to commence the work.

However, some two years after the work began, he was advised by the Department that his fire breaks were too wide, and legal action followed.

Record punishment
The fine and costs order is the largest handed down since the Vegetation Management Act was enacted in 1999.

More here- https://www.beefcentral.com/news/qld-landholder-hit-with-record-1m-penalty-for-making-fire-breaks-too-wide/?fbclid=IwAR2jqa5B2ZJBdWonBDgP8G1Bm1kvNjMvHE_3fophn-kk0YDiHhioSAM3Amo#.XcffcKnwARs.facebook


Bushfires have a long history in Australia once upon a time we cleared fire breaks and back burnt then leftist idiocy took over and fires have become much worse due to greater fuel loads.


Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 12th, 2019 at 7:21pm

Quote:
Bushfire

What is a bushfire?

Bushfires and grassfires are common throughout Australia. Grassfires are fast moving, passing in five to ten seconds and smouldering for minutes. They have a low to medium intensity and primarily damage crops, livestock and farming infrastructure, such as fences. Bushfires are generally slower moving, but have a higher heat output. This means they pass in two to five minutes, but they can smoulder for days. Fire in the crown of the tree canopy can move rapidly.

Bushfires are an intrinsic part of Australia's environment. Natural ecosystems have evolved with fire, and the landscape, along with its biological diversity, has been shaped by both historic and recent fires. Many of Australia's native plants are fire prone and very combustible, while numerous species depend on fire to regenerate. Indigenous Australians have long used fire as a land management tool and it continues to be used to clear land for agricultural purposes and to protect properties from intense, uncontrolled fires.

Historically, bushfires have caused loss of life and significant damage to property. While naturally occurring bushfires cannot be averted, their consequences can be minimised by implementing mitigation strategies and reducing the potential impact to areas which are most vulnerable

https://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/community-safety/bushfire


The idiots from the climate change religion are showing their ignorance with bushfires in Australia.  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:08pm

So, has the happy clapper's useless god done anything about the fires yet?

Why did he start them in the first place?

Looks like his heavenly father might have had enough of Morriscum too.


Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by lee on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:13pm
I guess he doesn't think much of Labor either. The fires  being in both Liberal and Labor states. ;)

or is it only on a federal level? Nope that wouldn't account for the bushfires when Labor was in government federally.

Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:16pm

lee wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:13pm:
I guess he doesn't think much of Labor either. The fires  being in both Liberal and Labor states. ;)

or is it only on a federal level? Nope that wouldn't account for the bushfires when Labor was in government federally.


So, the happy clapper isn't clapping loud enough?

Why is his god doing this to Morriscum's country?


Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

lee wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:13pm:
I guess he doesn't think much of Labor either. The fires  being in both Liberal and Labor states. ;)

or is it only on a federal level? Nope that wouldn't account for the bushfires when Labor was in government federally.


So, the happy clapper isn't clapping loud enough?

Why is his god doing this to Morriscum's country?


Scumo creates jobs for gophers in coal mines whilst the rest of the country burns to the ground :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea5bOaPkZpc

As bushfires ravage eastern Australia, governments say they don't want to talk about climate change – but scientists say the link is clear

[list bull-blackball]
  • New South Wales and Queensland are facing ferocious bushfires, while politicians try to avoid talking about the contribution of climate change.[list bull-blackball]
  • Despite that, the New South Wales government spent part of Tuesday recommending that coal mine approvals be exempt from climate change considerations.[list bull-blackball]
  • While climate change doesn’t cause bushfires directly, it does exacerbate their frequency and severity, according to scientists.

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/climate-change-nsw-fires-2019-11

  • Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
    Post by lee on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:56pm

    Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:21pm:
    As bushfires ravage eastern Australia, governments say they don't want to talk about climate change – but scientists say the link is clear


    Climate change causes fire? Climate change increases fuel loads? Climate change prevents controlled burns? ::)

    Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
    Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:57pm

    lee wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:56pm:

    Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:21pm:
    As bushfires ravage eastern Australia, governments say they don't want to talk about climate change – but scientists say the link is clear


    Climate change causes fire? Climate change increases fuel loads? Climate change prevents controlled burns? ::)


    "While climate change doesn’t cause bushfires directly, it does exacerbate their frequency and severity, according to scientists."

    Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
    Post by lee on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:59pm

    Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:57pm:
    "While climate change doesn’t cause bushfires directly, it does exacerbate their frequency and severity, according to scientists."



    So climate change causes burnt ground to recover quicker so it can be burned again quicker? ::)

    So climate change makes the fires more severe by increasing fuel load? ::)

    Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
    Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 13th, 2019 at 1:03pm

    lee wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:59pm:

    Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:57pm:
    "While climate change doesn’t cause bushfires directly, it does exacerbate their frequency and severity, according to scientists."



    So climate change causes burnt ground to recover quicker so it can be burned again quicker? ::)

    So climate change makes the fires more severe by increasing fuel load? ::)


    These climate change religious types think Julia Gillards carbon tax would have reduced the impact of bushfires in Australia.


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    Title: Re: Hey scumo the fires and droughts are getting worse
    Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:25pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

    lee wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:13pm:
    I guess he doesn't think much of Labor either. The fires  being in both Liberal and Labor states. ;)

    or is it only on a federal level? Nope that wouldn't account for the bushfires when Labor was in government federally.


    So, the happy clapper isn't clapping loud enough?

    Why is his god doing this to Morriscum's country?


    So he (one of the chosen) will hasten the end times do he can live on a new earth.

    Spot

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