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HUGE! Suspected ‘Whistleblower’ Ciaramella May Be CIA Spy Planted in Trump White House Identified as “Charlie” in Strzok and Page Texts! Whoa!  This is earth shattering.  No wonder Lying Adam Schiff and his Democrat cohorts don’t want their suspected whistleblower Eric Ciaramella outed to the public.  This is because they all know that Ciaramella was in President Trump’s White House and his purpose was specifically to spy on the Trump Administration. Dan Bongino put this all together yesterday in his great podcast – At about the 10 minute mark Bongino unveils this entire twisted plot.) In April of this year, Senators Grassley and Johnson sent a letter to Attorney General Barr asking him for any information on the following (or perhaps this was their way of encouraging him to look into something).  What they specifically asked about was related to some text messages from corrupt FBI Agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page referring to a “CI guy” in the White House – Next Grassley and Johnson provide the exact text messages they wanted Barr to look into.  The text from Peter Strzok says “Do we want Joe to go with Evania instead of Charlie for a variety of reasons?” – A footnote at the bottom of the Grassley and Johnson memo says “At this time it is unknown who “Charlie” is”. On the beginning of the next page of their memo Grassley and Johnson share some more texts from Strzok and Page referring to “the CI guy” again in the White House – Grassley and Johnson ask Barr some shocking questions (highlighted below) – The nature of these communications , and the precise purpose of any attempts to “develop relationships” with Trump or Pence transition team staff are not immediately clear.  Were these efforts done to gain better communication between the respective parties, or were the briefings used as intelligence gathering operation?  Further, did any such surveillance activities continue beyond the inauguration, and in the event they did, were those activities subject to proper predication?  Any improper FBI surveillance activities that were conducted before or after the 2016 election must be brought to light and properly addressed.” Strzok and Page in their texts were likely referring to fired FBI Director Andy McCabe and Bill Priestap per footnotes on that page.  The reference to the “CI guy” is unclear. Finally Grassley and Johnson discuss the leaks coming from the FBI and the Mueller gang and how Barr should look into those as well. Who was ‘Charlie’ in the Trump White House and is he the CI guy referred to in other Strzok and Page texts?  This leads us back to Bongino who tied the Grassley and Johnson letter together with some more recent information. On Wednesday Paul Sperry announced at RealClearInvestigations.com in a post that the so-called ‘whistleblower’ in Lying Adam Schiff’s fake impeachment sham is none other than Eric Ciaramella.  This is old news to us at TGP as well as Bongino and others on the web. But in Sperry’s post, he notes the exact pronunciation for Ciaramella’s name – (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) – Bongino suspects that Sperry is trying to hint at something as the pronunciation of a name is not usually included in posts like Sperry’s.  What Bongino suggests is that there is a connection between Sperry’s article and the Grassley and Johnson letter – Char-a-MEL-ah is the same ‘Charlie’ in the Strzok and Page communications.

Stop what you are doing - WATCH

Was “Charlie” Spying on the Trump White House?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3I-FojWPc8&t

SEE Further Documents here

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/huge-suspected-whistleblower-ciaramella-may-be-cia-spy-planted-in-trump-white-house-identified-as-charlie-in-strzok-and-page-texts/

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Now this all makes sense.  This is why Schiff wanted to keep his identity hidden.  Not only because Ciaramella is a clearly a leaker and is culpable for crimes due to his leaking but because he was spying on President Trump in the White House. As we reported on October 11th, in a hit piece on conservatives in July, 2017, Yahoo reported that Mike Cernovich targeted an individual who worked for former National Security Advisor H. R. McMaster, claiming the individual wanted to ‘sabotage’ President Trump and also claiming he is ‘pro-Ukraine and anti-Russia’. Cernovich reported in June, 2017, that McMaster promoted Ciaramella in spite of being connected to Susan Rice in Obama’s White House – West Wing officials confirmed to Cernovich Media that Eric Ciaramella, who worked closely with Susan Rice while at NSC, was recently promoted to be H.R. McMaster’s personal aide. Ciaramella will have unfettered access to McMaster’s conversations with foreign leaders. (Ciaramella’s old boss, McMaster, was in the news recently by siding with the whistleblower.) Politico shared this about Ciaramella, in a hit piece claiming Trump supporters in the White House claimed people like Ciaramella were ‘deep state’ – it looks like they were right – [emphasis added below] Trump political appointees were believed to frequently talk to journalists who worked for conservative media outlets. For months, those outlets published names of career Civil and Foreign Service officers in the NSC and other government agencies whose loyalties they deemed suspect. Career staffers who had joined the U.S. government many years, sometimes decades, earlier were suddenly cast as Obama loyalists determined to derail Trump’s agenda as part of a “deep state.” The people targeted included a State Department civil servant of Iranian descent who’d joined government under the George W. Bush administration; a highly respected Foreign Service officer who dealt with Israeli issues; and an NSC staffer who dealt with European and Russian issues. The latter, Eric Ciaramella, reportedly left the NSC after receiving death threats. Another staffer targeted by conservative outlets was Fernando Cutz, a Latin America expert and top aide to McMaster; at one point he had to temporarily get police protection. (Cutz was maligned by conservative websites in part because he earned a master’s degree from the University of Arkansas’ Clinton School of Public Service, thus supposedly linking him to another Democratic president.) Also, others have noted Ciaramella was Obama’s NSC Director for the Ukraine.  This connects him and his team at the NSC to Joe Biden.  Biden was Obama’s lead in the Ukraine so it’s implausible that Ciararmella and his team were not connected to Biden.  Schiff’s leakers are connected to Biden also. According to Politico Ciaramello quit the NSC in the past couple of years and returned to his ‘home agency’ – many suspect this must be the CIA because any other agency would be named outright.  Fool Nelson on Twitter was one of the first to out Ciaramella – Another Internet sleuth, Greg Rubini, noted that Ciaramella was in the White House at an event and was seated directly behind Melania Trump According to Rubini the above picture was from April 24, 2018, after Ciaramella was fired in June 2017 thanks to Mike Cernovich.  But then McMaster brought Ciaramella back into the White House and McMaster was fired on April 8, 2018.  In what capacity was Ciaramella still in the White House? Rush Limbaugh noted that Trump’s White House was full of Deep State spies and crooks – No wonder Adam Schiff doesn’t want this traitor’s name exposed.  The suspected whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella, worked with the Obama Administration in the Ukraine, spied on President Trump in the White House for Obama’s CIA and FBI and was apparently doing all he could to sabatoge the Trump White House while he was there. It’s against the law to spy on our President in an effort to have him impeached.  I thought the CIA was not allowed to spy in the US period. Creepy and corrupt Adam Schiff used the whistleblower’s memo to start his corrupt and criminal impeachment sham investigation taking place in the House.  It sure looks like Eric Ciaramella is no hero, he is more likely a traitor and a crook.  Hang him high!  >:(

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Even if this was true, what does it change?

There is evidence and witness testimony of Trump breaking the law. 

This has nothing to do with the whistleblower.

Impeachment Enquiry continues.

The Storm is Coming.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 7:35am:

Even if this was true, what does it change? There is evidence and witness testimony of Trump breaking the law.  This has nothing to do with the whistleblower. Impeachment Enquiry continues. The Storm is Coming.

Are you Mentally Retarded?

The only crimes that have been committed are by the DNC, Deep State Traitors and that of the upper echelons of the Alphabet Agencies.

Which is all documented.

I don’t know why one person in America would vote for the DNC - they are nonstop trying to overthrow the President that they elected.

Treason.

So they are basically saying to the American Public that their VOTE doesn’t count - We’ll tell you who will be President.

This is war - the DNC has enacted war against the citizens of the US.

They need to Wake up

THE GREAT AWAKENING

BY THE way KangaNong.

Who do you think should elect the American President?

The DNC/Deep State and other traitors?

Or the American People?

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 7:44am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 7:35am: Even if this was true, what does it change? There is evidence and witness testimony of Trump breaking the law.  This has nothing to do with the whistleblower. Impeachment Enquiry continues. The Storm is Coming. Are you Mentally Retarded? The only crimes that have been committed are by the DNC, Deep State Traitors and that of the upper echelons of the Alphabet Agencies. Which is all documented. I don’t know why one person in America would vote for the DNC - they are nonstop trying to overthrow the President that they elected. Treason. So they are basically saying to the American Public that their VOTE doesn’t count - We’ll tell you who will be President. This is war - the DNC has enacted war against the citizens of the US. They need to Wake up THE GREAT AWAKENING

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Is that the best you've got?

Man, you tards are going to lose it when the hearing go public...

We know what Trump did, he and his team have provided evidence of some of it, witnesses have filled in other parts, Bolton is going to give evidence by the looks of things, there is no way Trump can escape.

His crimes will be exposed and only the most mentally retarded of his supporters will be able to ignore it, but they, you, don't matter.  Your votes aren't the ones that will sway or secure the election.

The public will get to see how Trump has been abusing his position for his own gain.  This will help wake up those whose changed vote WILL matter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIH6YKnWsAAosah.jpg

We're seeing the results of his economic interference, which has been a failure, the Tax cuts, his only economic measure, have not worked and for some, they thought Trump would be different.  They thought he'd bring the jobs back, he'd remember the forgotten people, he'd fix healthcare but most of all, he wouldn't be an establishment politician and actually help the people.

It's all falling apart and now it will be made public how much worse than establishment politicians he is because not only is he working for himself and his own personal gain and nothing else, he's not even good at pretending to do what is good for the people.

We saw the latest example of his usual He makes a completely unrealistic promise.  He then fails to deliver on that promise.  Then he brags about the results even though they fall short of his promise.  Then we find out he criticised a Democratic Politician or prior President for the exact same result. moment here.

He can't even accidentally fulfil his promises, it's just lies lies lies.  And the only defence you idiots have is trying to shift the attention to someone else as if that erases what you don't like?

Not only will that not work but what you idiots think doesn't matter anyway.  You and those like you won't be the ones deciding the election.  You're going to vote Trump no matter what, so you'll be ignored.  You don't matter. 

There is no batter way to defeat a meme warrior than taking away their meaning haha...  Feel the burn lol...

The impeachment is about restoring honour to the office, yes, but it will also expose to the people who matter in the upcoming election, what a crook Trump is and that like most people knew during the republican primaries, he's unfit for office.

The Burnie or Bust, the centrists and even the rule of law republicans, they'll abandon Trump at this rate.

That's all that's needed. 

Look on Twitter, even some of the ardent QTards are questioning Q, 8Kun, Jim Watkins and Trump.  His spell is wearing off.

His support is down, his polling is terrible, support for impeachment is up, so even if the republicans don't allow the vote, or vote it down in the Senate, things are looking really bad for Trump.

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They may even primary him if the numbers get too bad and they missed their chance to impeach.

But all of that said, you still didn't bother to even address the question I put to you, you just went on the attack.

Let's say this latest conspiracy against the whistleblower is true, and then?

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no link from sadface.. wonder why that is ???

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nice fake news 2.0

we remember ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHA3XYndZ_0

Forecasts and polls got the 2016 election results dead wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhXgNOemrw8

Nancy Pelosi offers election night predictions

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Desperate conspiracy story - surprise - NO

Maybe if they hadn't spent years throwing mud at everyone who opposed them on anything and everything.

It is just standard procedure for the Trumpets.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 7:45am:

BY THE way KangaNong. Who do you think should elect the American President? The DNC/Deep State and other traitors? Or the American People?

I think foreign PATRIOTs in countries like Australia.

You?

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 9:05am:

no link from sadface.. wonder why that is ???

What don't you believe, what do you need more evidence for?

You're still not answering the question either, if this conspiracy about the whistleblower you love is true, what does it change?

Until you reply, I'll just post a YouTube video like you always do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwDwZjxo4eg

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 7:45am:

BY THE way KangaNong. Who do you think should elect the American President? The DNC/Deep State and other traitors? Or the American People?

The High court elected Bush 5 votes to 3 ?

The Russians elected Donald Trump ?

The American people would be a nice change but they mostly do not bother to vote and it is pretty much decided by minority groups like the gun lobby. In many states even if people do vote the system just as likely won't count their votes particularly in poorer areas.

Yes in the US the foreign vote is prefered. Poor voters are effectively obstructed from voting and incentivised to not bother.

I doubt that there has ever been a US election decided legitimately by the people.

Then there is the electoral college which means that the peoples vote was irrelevant anyway.

Yes in the Current term the people elected Clinton but the Electoral college elected Trump.

What difference does it make who the whistle-blower is if the information is correct as it is shown to be???

Why is it a witch hunt for the FBI to investigate Trump (with warrants) based on information obtained by an Australian diplomat where the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton and where the Trump team met with the Russians to obtain this dirt....But it is not a witch hunt for Trump to pressure the Ukraine into investigating Joe Biden and his son Hunter with no evidence and no warrants....Can anyone explain why Trump thinks it is okay for him to dig dirt and launch a witch hunt against his political rival???

:-? :-? :-?

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 5:50am:

BOOM!! HUGE! Suspected ‘Whistleblower’ Ciaramella May Be CIA Spy Planted in Trump White House Identified as “Charlie” in Strzok and Page Texts! Whoa!  This is earth shattering.  .........

And tell me Serial,    do you believe that the LEFTIST MSM outlets in the U.S. will run with any of this info ?

[hahahahaha     i jest !!!!!                  ;D        ]

Yadda wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 11:26am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 5:50am: BOOM!! HUGE! Suspected ‘Whistleblower’ Ciaramella May Be CIA Spy Planted in Trump White House Identified as “Charlie” in Strzok and Page Texts! Whoa!  This is earth shattering.  ......... And tell me Serial,    do you believe that the LEFTIST MSM outlets in the U.S. will run with any of this info ? [hahahahaha     i jest !!!!!                  ;D        ]

They'd have to verify the story first.  Considering it's sources are based in pure conspiracy theory to defend Trump, until you find a smoking gun don't expect it to get any airtime, but even if it did, does it change anything?

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 11:20am:

What difference does it make who the whistle-blower is if the information is correct as it is shown to be??? Why is it a witch hunt for the FBI to investigate Trump (with warrants) based on information obtained by an Australian diplomat where the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton and where the Trump team met with the Russians to obtain this dirt...

Because Mr Trump's the American president, dear. You have to agree with him.

It's not a witch hunt when the Justice Department investigates which officials told the FBI about that information obtained by the Australian diplomat. That's tracking down the TRAITORs.

They can make this easy or hard, it's up to them. All they have to do is name names.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 11:32am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 11:26am: SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 5:50am: BOOM!! HUGE! Suspected ‘Whistleblower’ Ciaramella May Be CIA Spy Planted in Trump White House Identified as “Charlie” in Strzok and Page Texts! Whoa!  This is earth shattering.  ......... And tell me Serial,    do you believe that the LEFTIST MSM outlets in the U.S. will run with any of this info ? [hahahahaha     i jest !!!!!                  ;D        ] They'd have to verify the story first.

And then they'd have to go to jail for exposing the identity of a CIA agent.

Those LEFTISTS in the MSM are such cowards. Look at Hannity - a whole show where he promises to name names, then gets carried away and "forgets" to do it.

So typical of the leftards.

Oh,dearie, dearie, me.  I see that the serial liar, Cereal Brain, is spreading his bullshit again.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) ::)

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-ukraine-whistleblower-suddenly-wont-testify-lawyers-break-negotiations-house-amid


Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify; Lawyers Break Off Negotiations Amid New Revelations

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by Tyler Durden
Fri, 11/01/2019 - 13:25
A CIA officer who filed a second-hand whistleblower complaint against President Trump has gotten cold feet about testifying after revelations emerged that he worked with Joe Biden, former CIA Director John Brennan, and a DNC operative who sought dirt on President Trump from officials in Ukraine's former government.

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According to the Washington Examiner, discussions with the whistleblower - revealed by RealClearInvestigations as 33-year-old Eric Ciaramella have been halted, "and there is no discussion of testimony from a second whistleblower, who supported the first's claims."

Ciaramella complained that President Trump abused his office when he asked Ukraine to investigate corruption allegations against Joe Biden and his son Hunter, as well as claims related to pro-Clinton election interference and DNC hacking in 2016.

On Thursday, a top National Security Council official who was present on a July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky testified that he saw nothing illegal about the conversation.

"I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed," said Tim Morrison, former NSC Senior Director for European Affairs who was on the July 25 call between the two leaders.

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And now, the partisan whistleblowers have cold feet;

"There is no indication that either of the original whistleblowers will be called to testify or appear before the Senate or House Intelligence committees. There is no further discussion ongoing between the legal team and the committees," said the Examiner's source.

The whistleblower is a career CIA officer with expertise in Ukraine policy who served on the White House National Security Council during the Obama administration, when 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was "point man" for Ukraine, and during the early months of the Trump administration. -Washington Examiner

In other words, House Democrats are about to impeach President Trump over a second-hand whistleblower complaint by a partisan CIA officer, and neither he nor his source will actually testify about it (for now...).

On Thursday, the House passed a resolution establishing a framework for Trump impeachment proceedings, belatedly granting Republicans the ability to subpoena witnesses, but only if Schiff and fellow Democrats on the Intelligence Committee agree.

Mark Zaid, who along with Andrew Bakaj is an attorney for both the original whistleblower and the second whistleblower, told the Washington Examiner the legal team was willing to work with lawmakers so long as anonymity is ensured. “We remain committed to cooperating with any congressional oversight committee's requests so long as it properly protects and ensures the anonymity of our clients,” Zaid said.

On Wednesday, Zaid and Bakaj declined to confirm or deny in a statement to the Washington Examiner that Eric Ciaramella, 33, a career CIA analyst and former Ukraine director on the NSC, was the whistleblower after a report by RealClearInvestigations. -Washington Examiner

In September, House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff, who lied about contacts with Ciaramella (and hired two Ciaramella associates as staffers) said that the whistleblower "would like to speak to our committee."

So knowing the whistleblower's name and in this conspiracy theory of yours where he is a spy, or won't testify etc, how does any of that change the actions Trump has already taken that has led to the impeachment enquiry?

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/11/impeachment-theater.html

Impeachment Theater
Ukrainegate is the new Russiagate. The 'whistleblower complain' is the new 'dirty dossier'. The 'former' MI6 spy Christopher Steele wrote the dossier. The current CIA spy Eric Ciaramella wrote the 'complain':

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblower_exposed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html

Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.
Further, Ciaramella (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

Also, Ciaramella huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, including former colleagues also held over from the Obama era whom Schiff’s office had recently recruited from the NSC. Schiff is the lead prosecutor in the impeachment inquiry.

And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

The whole impeachment show the Democrats launched is a major political mistake.

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The Democrats have chosen the wrong issue, Ukraine, where they themselves have a lot of ballast. The choice of a Trump phonecall with the Ukrainian president as the item to hang the impeachment on is especially dumb. Trump's call was less incriminating than Biden's pressure on the Ukrainian president to help his son's paymaster. It is also a mistake to let the Chair of the House Intelligence Committee Adam Schiff run the impeachment process. Schiff already flip-flopped over requesting the 'whistleblower' to testify after it was reported that two members of his staff, who knew Ciaramella from working with him at the Obama National Security Council, had advised him.

The process will create a lot of collateral damage. It will hurt a number people involved in it, but it will not hurt Trump with his electorate. It will not end with impeachment. I believe, like Noam Chomsky, that it will, in the end, even help Trump:

"Is it politically wise? I frankly doubt it. I think it’ll turn out pretty much like the Mueller report, which, that I thought was also a political mistake. What’ll happen is probably the House will impeach, goes to the Senate. The Republican senators are utterly craven. They’re terrified of Trump’s voting base. So they’ll vote to turn down the impeachment request. Trump will come along, say I’m vindicated. Say it was the Deep State and the treacherous Dems trying to overturn the election. Oh, vote for me."
Trump can be beaten by good policies. Instead of offering any the Democrats try to defeat him with theater. But Trump is a much better showman than Schiff or any other Democrat. It nearly looks as if they want Trump to win.

Just the 'juicy' bit !!!



it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 1:54pm:

'.....In other words, House Democrats are about to impeach President Trump over 1/ a second-hand whistleblower complaint by 2/ a partisan CIA officer, and neither he nor his source will actually testify about it (for now...).'

"Whoa!  This is earth shattering."


Yes, quite.

Yadda wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 2:14pm:

Just the 'juicy' bit !!! it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 1:54pm: '.....In other words, House Democrats are about to impeach President Trump over 1/ a second-hand whistleblower complaint by 2/ a partisan CIA officer, and neither he nor his source will actually testify about it (for now...).' "Whoa!  This is earth shattering." Yes, quite.

You're ignoring all the evidence they already have though.

You're all being disingenuous about the entire process relying on the whistleblower.

That's how it started but it's progressed well beyond that now.

You're all just parroting, and championing something that means absolutely nothing.

This is how desperate you lot are.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 2:37pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 2:14pm: Just the 'juicy' bit !!! it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 1:54pm: '.....In other words, House Democrats are about to impeach President Trump over 1/ a second-hand whistleblower complaint by 2/ a partisan CIA officer, and neither he nor his source will actually testify about it (for now...).' "Whoa!  This is earth shattering." Yes, quite. You're ignoring all the evidence they already have though. You're all being disingenuous about the entire process relying on the whistleblower. That's how it started but it's progressed well beyond that now. You're all just parroting, and championing something that means absolutely nothing. This is how desperate you lot are.

yes but now they are refusing , at this point, to testify ..

can you read ?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-ukraine-whistleblower-suddenly-wont-testify-lawyers-break-negotiations-house-amid


Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify; Lawyers Break Off Negotiations Amid New Revelations

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by Tyler Durden
Fri, 11/01/2019 - 13:25
A CIA officer who filed a second-hand whistleblower complaint against President Trump has gotten cold feet about testifying after revelations emerged that he worked with Joe Biden, former CIA Director John Brennan, and a DNC operative who sought dirt on President Trump from officials in Ukraine's former government.

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According to the Washington Examiner, discussions with the whistleblower - revealed by RealClearInvestigations as 33-year-old Eric Ciaramella have been halted, "and there is no discussion of testimony from a second whistleblower, who supported the first's claims."

Ciaramella complained that President Trump abused his office when he asked Ukraine to investigate corruption allegations against Joe Biden and his son Hunter, as well as claims related to pro-Clinton election interference and DNC hacking in 2016.

On Thursday, a top National Security Council official who was present on a July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky testified that he saw nothing illegal about the conversation.

"I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed," said Tim Morrison, former NSC Senior Director for European Affairs who was on the July 25 call between the two leaders.

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And now, the partisan whistleblowers have cold feet;

"There is no indication that either of the original whistleblowers will be called to testify or appear before the Senate or House Intelligence committees. There is no further discussion ongoing between the legal team and the committees," said the Examiner's source.

The whistleblower is a career CIA officer with expertise in Ukraine policy who served on the White House National Security Council during the Obama administration, when 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was "point man" for Ukraine, and during the early months of the Trump administration. -Washington Examiner

In other words, House Democrats are about to impeach President Trump over a second-hand whistleblower complaint by a partisan CIA officer, and neither he nor his source will actually testify about it (for now...).

On Thursday, the House passed a resolution establishing a framework for Trump impeachment proceedings, belatedly granting Republicans the ability to subpoena witnesses, but only if Schiff and fellow Democrats on the Intelligence Committee agree.

Mark Zaid, who along with Andrew Bakaj is an attorney for both the original whistleblower and the second whistleblower, told the Washington Examiner the legal team was willing to work with lawmakers so long as anonymity is ensured. “We remain committed to cooperating with any congressional oversight committee's requests so long as it properly protects and ensures the anonymity of our clients,” Zaid said.

On Wednesday, Zaid and Bakaj declined to confirm or deny in a statement to the Washington Examiner that Eric Ciaramella, 33, a career CIA analyst and former Ukraine director on the NSC, was the whistleblower after a report by RealClearInvestigations. -Washington Examiner

In September, House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff, who lied about contacts with Ciaramella (and hired two Ciaramella associates as staffers) said that the whistleblower "would like to speak to our committee."

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 2:39pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 2:37pm: Yadda wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 2:14pm: Just the 'juicy' bit !!! it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 1:54pm: '.....In other words, House Democrats are about to impeach President Trump over 1/ a second-hand whistleblower complaint by 2/ a partisan CIA officer, and neither he nor his source will actually testify about it (for now...).' "Whoa!  This is earth shattering." Yes, quite. You're ignoring all the evidence they already have though. You're all being disingenuous about the entire process relying on the whistleblower. That's how it started but it's progressed well beyond that now. You're all just parroting, and championing something that means absolutely nothing. This is how desperate you lot are. yes but now they are refusing , at this point, to testify .. can you read ?

Yeah, but again, what does that matter?

Their testimony at this point doesn't matter.  You all were saying it was hearsay anyway right? 

So why not go directly to the people on the calls with Trump who reported their concerns which is what guided the whistleblower to take action in the first place?

And at the same time, you're saying Trump and anyone he directs not to, shouldn't cooperate with the enquiry, but now you're demanding that someone else cooperate?

Pick a position you spineless tards...

Either the Whistleblower's testimony would only be hearsay and worthless or what they have to say can be used against Trump so they need to testify.

And if you insist they testify and cooperate then you must demand the same from anyone else who is asked to give evidence despite what Trump tells them to do.

Pretty simple stuff.

If you demand more of other than you do of Trump, your contributions are worthless.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 2:51pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 2:39pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 2:37pm: Yadda wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 2:14pm: Just the 'juicy' bit !!! it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 1:54pm: '.....In other words, House Democrats are about to impeach President Trump over 1/ a second-hand whistleblower complaint by 2/ a partisan CIA officer, and neither he nor his source will actually testify about it (for now...).' "Whoa!  This is earth shattering." Yes, quite. You're ignoring all the evidence they already have though. You're all being disingenuous about the entire process relying on the whistleblower. That's how it started but it's progressed well beyond that now. You're all just parroting, and championing something that means absolutely nothing. This is how desperate you lot are. yes but now they are refusing , at this point, to testify .. can you read ? Yeah, but again, what does that matter? Their testimony at this point doesn't matter.  You all were saying it was hearsay anyway right?  So why not go directly to the people on the calls with Trump who reported their concerns which is what guided the whistleblower to take action in the first place? And at the same time, you're saying Trump and anyone he directs not to, shouldn't cooperate with the enquiry, but now you're demanding that someone else cooperate? Pick a position you spineless tards... Either the Whistleblower's testimony would only be hearsay and worthless or what they have to say can be used against Trump so they need to testify. And if you insist they testify and cooperate then you must demand the same from anyone else who is asked to give evidence despite what Trump tells them to do. Pretty simple stuff. If you demand more of other than you do of Trump, your contributions are worthless.

Roo makes Wiley Coyote look competent.  You have fallen off a cliff and a huge boulder is goons land on top of you...the whole Russia Ukraine is just a ACME mail order bomb that just blew up in your stupid face. 

Don't be STUPID stupid, quit while you still think you're ahead.

Rider wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 3:16pm:

Roo makes Wiley Coyote look competent.  You have fallen off a cliff and a huge boulder is goons land on top of you...the whole Russia Ukraine is just a ACME mail order bomb that just blew up in your stupid face.

So you're saying it's perfectly fine to one minute hold the position,

"The whistleblower is only offering hearsay and this isn't enough to impeach the President.  This is a witch hunt and the Republicans should ignore subpoenas and not comply with the hearings!"

And then the next:

"The whistleblower must testify to the Impeachment Enquiry because without their testimony we cannot continue so they must comply with subpoenas to front the hearings"

You're just changing the goalposts as it suits you...

If the whistleblower has no first-hand accounts and can only offer hearsay then forget them, focus on the people who were on the calls and since you're happy to force people to comply with subpoenas we should be forcing Bolton to give evidence.

But you don't want any of that, do you?


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Don't be STUPID stupid, quit while you still think you're ahead.

Exactly.

I know the concept of hypocrisy is totally lost on people like you Rider because you hold one set of rules for those you support and a separate one for those you oppose, but now we're at the point where you tards are holding separate and competing beliefs over the exact same subject, both an attempt to support Trump and attach the constitutional process of holding him to account for breaking the law.

You really have nothing left at this point.  You can't claim the process is illegal, you can't defend the substance of the process so now you're only left trying to target the procedure of how it's being conducted.

It's telling of how back you all know the situation to be, even if you won't admit it, possibly even to yourselves.

Its pitiful to watch the clowns SCREAM their panic.

Today Official impeachment inquiry into Trump voted to go ahead.

Process outlined etc

i.e. The whistle blower is irrelevant. Interesting that everything he / she reported was true.

Also interesting that it is illegal to expose a whistle blower but the Republicans were desperate to do so.

The impeachment process continues to its eventual conclusion.

We get to see the evidence proving that Trump misused the office of the president for his personal gain on a number of occasions undermining national security in the process.

With the evidence out there and the people aware of the truth we then get to see which republican politicians have any integrity left - or not. My money would be on the or nots.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 8:36am:

Is that the best you've got? Man, you tards are going to lose it when the hearing go public... We know what Trump did, he and his team have provided evidence of some of it, witnesses have filled in other parts, Bolton is going to give evidence by the looks of things, there is no way Trump can escape. His crimes will be exposed and only the most mentally retarded of his supporters will be able to ignore it, but they, you, don't matter.  Your votes aren't the ones that will sway or secure the election. The public will get to see how Trump has been abusing his position for his own gain.  This will help wake up those whose changed vote WILL matter. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIH6YKnWsAAosah.jpg We're seeing the results of his economic interference, which has been a failure, the Tax cuts, his only economic measure, have not worked and for some, they thought Trump would be different.  They thought he'd bring the jobs back, he'd remember the forgotten people, he'd fix healthcare but most of all, he wouldn't be an establishment politician and actually help the people. It's all falling apart and now it will be made public how much worse than establishment politicians he is because not only is he working for himself and his own personal gain and nothing else, he's not even good at pretending to do what is good for the people. We saw the latest example of his usual He makes a completely unrealistic promise.  He then fails to deliver on that promise.  Then he brags about the results even though they fall short of his promise.  Then we find out he criticised a Democratic Politician or prior President for the exact same result. moment here. He can't even accidentally fulfil his promises, it's just lies lies lies.  And the only defence you idiots have is trying to shift the attention to someone else as if that erases what you don't like? Not only will that not work but what you idiots think doesn't matter anyway.  You and those like you won't be the ones deciding the election.  You're going to vote Trump no matter what, so you'll be ignored.  You don't matter.  There is no batter way to defeat a meme warrior than taking away their meaning haha...  Feel the burn lol... The impeachment is about restoring honour to the office, yes, but it will also expose to the people who matter in the upcoming election, what a crook Trump is and that like most people knew during the republican primaries, he's unfit for office. The Burnie or Bust, the centrists and even the rule of law republicans, they'll abandon Trump at this rate. That's all that's needed.  Look on Twitter, even some of the ardent QTards are questioning Q, 8Kun, Jim Watkins and Trump.  His spell is wearing off. His support is down, his polling is terrible, support for impeachment is up, so even if the republicans don't allow the vote, or vote it down in the Senate, things are looking really bad for Trump. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIIa2pYU0AAId_M.jpg They may even primary him if the numbers get too bad and they missed their chance to impeach. But all of that said, you still didn't bother to even address the question I put to you, you just went on the attack. Let's say this latest conspiracy against the whistleblower is true, and then? https://i.imgur.com/ciayxXT.jpg

Sad Trump isn't lying its you who does the lying.

That table showing job losses, leaving out job gains. It purports to show net losses - it doesn't - just BS.

eg Pennsylvania's unemployment decreased in 2018 along with a rise in incomes.

Sad is a victim of TDS! 

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 8:29pm:

Today Official impeachment inquiry into Trump voted to go ahead. Process outlined etc i.e. The whistle blower is irrelevant. Interesting that everything he / she reported was true. Also interesting that it is illegal to expose a whistle blower but the Republicans were desperate to do so. The impeachment process continues to its eventual conclusion. We get to see the evidence proving that Trump misused the office of the president for his personal gain on a number of occasions undermining national security in the process. With the evidence out there and the people aware of the truth we then get to see which republican politicians have any integrity left - or not. My money would be on the or nots.

The rules governing a whistleblowers was changed just 2 months ago by the Dems.

Very convenient!

The Dems are playing political games at the nations expense. They're terrified of Barr's and the IG's report and throwing everything at Trump. But its most likely too late!  ;D

Richdude wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 12:53am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 8:36am: Is that the best you've got? Man, you tards are going to lose it when the hearing go public... We know what Trump did, he and his team have provided evidence of some of it, witnesses have filled in other parts, Bolton is going to give evidence by the looks of things, there is no way Trump can escape. His crimes will be exposed and only the most mentally retarded of his supporters will be able to ignore it, but they, you, don't matter.  Your votes aren't the ones that will sway or secure the election. The public will get to see how Trump has been abusing his position for his own gain.  This will help wake up those whose changed vote WILL matter. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIH6YKnWsAAosah.jpg We're seeing the results of his economic interference, which has been a failure, the Tax cuts, his only economic measure, have not worked and for some, they thought Trump would be different.  They thought he'd bring the jobs back, he'd remember the forgotten people, he'd fix healthcare but most of all, he wouldn't be an establishment politician and actually help the people. It's all falling apart and now it will be made public how much worse than establishment politicians he is because not only is he working for himself and his own personal gain and nothing else, he's not even good at pretending to do what is good for the people. We saw the latest example of his usual He makes a completely unrealistic promise.  He then fails to deliver on that promise.  Then he brags about the results even though they fall short of his promise.  Then we find out he criticised a Democratic Politician or prior President for the exact same result. moment here. He can't even accidentally fulfil his promises, it's just lies lies lies.  And the only defence you idiots have is trying to shift the attention to someone else as if that erases what you don't like? Not only will that not work but what you idiots think doesn't matter anyway.  You and those like you won't be the ones deciding the election.  You're going to vote Trump no matter what, so you'll be ignored.  You don't matter.  There is no batter way to defeat a meme warrior than taking away their meaning haha...  Feel the burn lol... The impeachment is about restoring honour to the office, yes, but it will also expose to the people who matter in the upcoming election, what a crook Trump is and that like most people knew during the republican primaries, he's unfit for office. The Burnie or Bust, the centrists and even the rule of law republicans, they'll abandon Trump at this rate. That's all that's needed.  Look on Twitter, even some of the ardent QTards are questioning Q, 8Kun, Jim Watkins and Trump.  His spell is wearing off. His support is down, his polling is terrible, support for impeachment is up, so even if the republicans don't allow the vote, or vote it down in the Senate, things are looking really bad for Trump. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIIa2pYU0AAId_M.jpg They may even primary him if the numbers get too bad and they missed their chance to impeach. But all of that said, you still didn't bother to even address the question I put to you, you just went on the attack. Let's say this latest conspiracy against the whistleblower is true, and then? https://i.imgur.com/ciayxXT.jpg Sad Trump isn't lying its you who does the lying. That table showing job losses, leaving out job gains. It purports to show net losses - it doesn't - just BS. eg Pennsylvania's unemployment decreased in 2018 along with a rise in incomes. Sad is a victim of TDS!

The table is very clear, it shows "Manufacturing job losses in battleground states" I never said anything about total employment. 

I highlighted that stat because Trump said he was bringing THOSE jobs BACK to America.  He hasn't done it.  It's a major promise broken and in these states with such a slim margin, and everything else going on, the result of the impeachment enquiry going public is going to hurt his chances in these state.

The only thing that snaps people out of the cult of Trump is personal pain.  The Farmers know it, these people know it, and this is a lot of where he got his win from.

How is that a lie?  That exactly what is happening.

But again, like every other tard in this thread, you've ignored the question in my post, if what is being said is true about the whistleblower, what next?  How does that change anything?

It's as if you lot are so don't have any way left to attack the process and this is your last hope?

"The whistleblower won't testify!!! OMG HOAX!"

Are you sure you really want to force people to testify?

*cough* John Bolton *cough*

Richdude wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 12:53am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 8:36am: Is that the best you've got? Man, you tards are going to lose it when the hearing go public... We know what Trump did, he and his team have provided evidence of some of it, witnesses have filled in other parts, Bolton is going to give evidence by the looks of things, there is no way Trump can escape. His crimes will be exposed and only the most mentally retarded of his supporters will be able to ignore it, but they, you, don't matter.  Your votes aren't the ones that will sway or secure the election. The public will get to see how Trump has been abusing his position for his own gain.  This will help wake up those whose changed vote WILL matter. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIH6YKnWsAAosah.jpg We're seeing the results of his economic interference, which has been a failure, the Tax cuts, his only economic measure, have not worked and for some, they thought Trump would be different.  They thought he'd bring the jobs back, he'd remember the forgotten people, he'd fix healthcare but most of all, he wouldn't be an establishment politician and actually help the people. It's all falling apart and now it will be made public how much worse than establishment politicians he is because not only is he working for himself and his own personal gain and nothing else, he's not even good at pretending to do what is good for the people. We saw the latest example of his usual He makes a completely unrealistic promise.  He then fails to deliver on that promise.  Then he brags about the results even though they fall short of his promise.  Then we find out he criticised a Democratic Politician or prior President for the exact same result. moment here. He can't even accidentally fulfil his promises, it's just lies lies lies.  And the only defence you idiots have is trying to shift the attention to someone else as if that erases what you don't like? Not only will that not work but what you idiots think doesn't matter anyway.  You and those like you won't be the ones deciding the election.  You're going to vote Trump no matter what, so you'll be ignored.  You don't matter.  There is no batter way to defeat a meme warrior than taking away their meaning haha...  Feel the burn lol... The impeachment is about restoring honour to the office, yes, but it will also expose to the people who matter in the upcoming election, what a crook Trump is and that like most people knew during the republican primaries, he's unfit for office. The Burnie or Bust, the centrists and even the rule of law republicans, they'll abandon Trump at this rate. That's all that's needed.  Look on Twitter, even some of the ardent QTards are questioning Q, 8Kun, Jim Watkins and Trump.  His spell is wearing off. His support is down, his polling is terrible, support for impeachment is up, so even if the republicans don't allow the vote, or vote it down in the Senate, things are looking really bad for Trump. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIIa2pYU0AAId_M.jpg They may even primary him if the numbers get too bad and they missed their chance to impeach. But all of that said, you still didn't bother to even address the question I put to you, you just went on the attack. Let's say this latest conspiracy against the whistleblower is true, and then? https://i.imgur.com/ciayxXT.jpg Sad Trump isn't lying its you who does the lying. That table showing job losses, leaving out job gains. It purports to show net losses - it doesn't - just BS. eg Pennsylvania's unemployment decreased in 2018 along with a rise in incomes. Sad is a victim of TDS!

He's also forgetting about the Transcript.

KangaNong is like the Democrats - They keep bring up conspiracy theories about what happened  :D

But keep forgetting that the FACTS are already there for everyone to read.

They didn't think Trump would release the Transcripts - He did.

But regardless they are still going ahead with "Peach Mint"  :D

Once it goes to the Senate they'll have a real trial, and bring in real witnesses, and they will be cross examined by Trumps Legal Team and the Senate Judiciary committee who will rip them to shreds on National TV.

and all the DNC corruption will be there to see.

every time the Democrats ask a question - just refer them to the Transcript.  ;D

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SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 7:13am:

He's also forgetting about the Transcript. KangaNong is like the Democrats - They keep bring up conspiracy theories about what happened  :D But keep forgetting that the FACTS are already there for everyone to read. They didn't think Trump would release the Transcripts - He did.

He released an edited call summary from recollection of others on the call.  There was no stenographer and it's not a transcript.  It even says that in the actual document:


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CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A number of factors can affect 'the accuracy of the record, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation. The word "inaudible" is used to indicate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear.

And we know from testimony given to the impeachment enquiry so far that there were specific mentions of Joe Biden discussing Ukraine corruption, and an explicit mention by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, of Burisma Holdings, the energy company whose board employed Mr. Biden’s son Hunter in the call.  But in the call summary you speak of, Burisma and the Bidens (to the extent they were mentioned in the actual call) that was left out.

Who is lying now?

Hint: It's you jackass...

There is a recording of the call and the actual full transcript but they were hidden on the classified server to try and cover up this whole mess.

It's like Barr's summary of the Mueller report all over again, a fabrication to protect Trump.


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But regardless they are still going ahead with "Peach Mint"  :D

It is what the evidence supports.


Quote:

Once it goes to the Senate they'll have a real trial, and bring in real witnesses, and they will be cross examined by Trumps Legal Team and the Senate Judiciary committee who will rip them to shreds on National TV.

They'll get that opportunity with the Public Hearings and the Republican members of the House and relevant committees will have the chance to cross-examine, you won't have to wait that long.


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and all the DNC corruption will be there to see. every time the Democrats ask a question - just refer them to the Transcript.  ;D

*Edited call summary, but let's attempt that anyway:


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House Impeachment Enquiry Member: "Did President Trump solicit help from the Ukrainian President on his phone call to investigate Biden for his own political gain?" Witness: "Refer to the 'transcript'" House Impeachment Enquiry Member: "You mean the call summary, the one where Trump is found to have solicited a thing of value from foreign national that was not for the sake of the country but his own personal gain against a political rival and instead of using official diplomatic channels or the mutual legal assistance treaty he used his personal lawyer who has said he was only acting in his clients interests who formed a second clandestine shadow foreign policy team he led constituting a breach of Campaign Finance Laws and an abuse of power by the President which is exactly what the impeachment process was included to help stop?" Witness: "Wait..."

We know from Barr that he didn't get involved, it was just Giuliani.

And that doesn't even take into account the quid pro quo that turns this into a bribery case given what we know from other evidence given so far.

You're playing a losing hand, and you're not even being smart about it.

The Republicans need to decide what they're going to do and fast.

Right now things are looking so bad for Trump they should be putting forward candidates to Primary.  Pence can't win on his own and if the Republicans can't find someone better in a post-Trump landscape they're going to need to play a game of mitigation so they don't lose so badly in the Senate.  More of their seats are up for re-election than the Dems, they have more to lose.

We know they won't be able to convince Trump to retire, even if McConnell tells Trump he has the 20 Republicans needed in the Senate to vote him out, so no matter what they do Trump will keep firing at them from Twitter.

I think their best option left is to start supporting the process now that they really have no angle left to attack it anyway, let the evidence come out and if it's as bad as it seems, follow through with the process, drop Trump and try to mitigate their losses and hold onto as much of the Senate as possible while still losing the election, and let the first term of the next Democratic President be a failure because they have the power to continue being their usual obstructionist selves in the Senate.

If they lose the election and the Senate, that's the worst-case scenario and unless the Republicans, ALL of them, start singing from the same song sheet, this outcome is becoming more and more likely.

Richdude wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 12:59am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 8:29pm: Today Official impeachment inquiry into Trump voted to go ahead. Process outlined etc i.e. The whistle blower is irrelevant. Interesting that everything he / she reported was true. Also interesting that it is illegal to expose a whistle blower but the Republicans were desperate to do so. The impeachment process continues to its eventual conclusion. We get to see the evidence proving that Trump misused the office of the president for his personal gain on a number of occasions undermining national security in the process. With the evidence out there and the people aware of the truth we then get to see which republican politicians have any integrity left - or not. My money would be on the or nots. The rules governing a whistleblowers was changed just 2 months ago by the Dems. Very convenient! The Dems are playing political games at the nations expense. They're terrified of Barr's and the IG's report and throwing everything at Trump. But its most likely too late!  ;D

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he rules governing a whistleblowers was changed just 2 months ago by the Dems.

Above - the Trump team spin

The fact is that there was a review which took place well before this scandal erupted. There ware changes made which took effect after the whistleblower complaint was processed.


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They're terrified of Barr's and the IG's report and throwing everything at Trump. But its most likely too late!

You do see how silly this is don't you ? The impeachment hearings were occuring well before the crooked Barr witch hunt was escalated in a panicked defense of Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCNIk0J0BUA

Nunes: Dems fantasize about Watergate, this is their watergate moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzz9LPjDH8I

Hannity: Latest testimony blows whistleblower claim out of the water

I see the serial liar, Cereal Brain is spreading his bullshit again.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 7:13am:

Sad Trump isn't lying its you who does the lying. That table showing job losses, leaving out job gains. It purports to show net losses - it doesn't - just BS. eg Pennsylvania's unemployment decreased in 2018 along with a rise in incomes. Sad is a victim of TDS!  He's also forgetting about the Transcript. KangaNong is like the Democrats - They keep bring up conspiracy theories about what happened  :D But keep forgetting that the FACTS are already there for everyone to read. They didn't think Trump would release the Transcripts - He did. But regardless they are still going ahead with "Peach Mint"  :D Once it goes to the Senate they'll have a real trial, and bring in real witnesses, and they will be cross examined by Trumps Legal Team and the Senate Judiciary committee who will rip them to shreds on National TV. and all the DNC corruption will be there to see. every time the Democrats ask a question - just refer them to the Transcript.  ;D

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/go-ahead_001.jpg

nice !!

Just keep spamming and promoting what each of you say, it'll only make it funnier when the public hearings start.

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They didn't think Trump would release the Transcripts - He did.

I have only seen one.  Where are the others?

Aussie wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2019 at 1:50pm:

Quote: They didn't think Trump would release the Transcripts - He did. I have only seen one.  Where are the others?

It also wasn't a transcript, it was only a call summary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi14T_arB0w

WHISTLEBLOWER EXPOSED: Trump EXPLOSIVE Press Conference from the White House

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyfEIyocm08

FACTUAL EVIDENCE @ 8:05 * MUST WATCH **

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 10:16am:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyfEIyocm08 FACTUAL EVIDENCE @ 8:05 * MUST WATCH **

So if your conspiracy theory is correct, that the Whistle Blower has been renamed to "Charlie" and then offer no evidence of him apparently spying against him?

So let's say it's true, it get other people in trouble, but it doesn't help Trump.  He still broke the law.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 11:16am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 10:16am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyfEIyocm08 FACTUAL EVIDENCE @ 8:05 * MUST WATCH ** So if your conspiracy theory is correct, that the Whistle Blower has been renamed to "Charlie" and then offer no evidence of him apparently spying against him? So let's say it's true, it get other people in trouble, but it doesn't help Trump.  He still broke the law.

Yes, he certainly did.

Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 11:16am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 10:16am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyfEIyocm08 FACTUAL EVIDENCE @ 8:05 * MUST WATCH ** So if your conspiracy theory is correct, that the Whistle Blower has been renamed to "Charlie" and then offer no evidence of him apparently spying against him? So let's say it's true, it get other people in trouble, but it doesn't help Trump.  He still broke the law.

What?

By winning the 2016 Election?

ffs  :D :D :D

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 11:29am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 11:16am: it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 10:16am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyfEIyocm08 FACTUAL EVIDENCE @ 8:05 * MUST WATCH ** So if your conspiracy theory is correct, that the Whistle Blower has been renamed to "Charlie" and then offer no evidence of him apparently spying against him? So let's say it's true, it get other people in trouble, but it doesn't help Trump.  He still broke the law. What?

Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

Stop lying Groggy...

there was no Quidproquo..

Read the transcript...

he DID NOT say that "if you don't investigate this you wont get the foreign aid"

LIAR..  ::)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 11:49am:

Stop lying Groggy... there was no Quidproquo.. Read the transcript... he DID NOT say that "if you don't investigate this you wont get the foreign aid" LIAR..  ::)

He broke the law.

It's indisputable.

Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

Nothing you say or do can change the facts.

     

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 11:52am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 11:49am: Stop lying Groggy... there was no Quidproquo.. Read the transcript... he DID NOT say that "if you don't investigate this you wont get the foreign aid" LIAR..  ::) He broke the law. It's indisputable. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Nothing you say or do can change the facts.

It doesn't require a quid pro quo either, he merely had to solicit it.

Given the evidence already provided, the quid pro quo appears to have happened and constitutes bribery for his own personal gain which is an impeachable offence.

The public hearings are going to be very interesting.

um yeah  ::)

Keep drawing that long bow.. im sure it'll work..  :D

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 11:52am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 11:49am: Stop lying Groggy... there was no Quidproquo.. Read the transcript... he DID NOT say that "if you don't investigate this you wont get the foreign aid" LIAR..  ::) He broke the law. It's indisputable. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Nothing you say or do can change the facts.       It doesn't require a quid pro quo either, he merely had to solicit it.

Exactly.

It's a little unfair to expect The Mechanic, Rich, Serial, et al. to understand exactly how the law works though.

Let's face it: until a few weeks ago, they had never even heard the term quid pro quo.

Trump broke the law. It's as simple as that.

They can throw as many temper tantrums as they like, but nothing will change the fact that he has admitted to acting illegally.

By the way..

When Trump asked the Ukraine President to look into Biden crimes...

HE, Biden, wasn't running for President..

So another lie by Groggy...  ::)

and consider Steele for a moment

he was told to dig up “dirt” on Trump and they'd pay for it.. 

it didn’t matter whether the defamatory information was verified, truthful, provable, or total fantasy...

They were after “dirt.”

Now compare that to Trump’s request...

You had situation that reeked of corruption: the son of an American government official was getting MILLIONS for doing nothing in particular.

All Trump asked for was that the Ukrainian President look into it...

If it was found to be legitimate, that would be the end of it. He wasn’t asking for “dirt,” just THE TRUTH.

Nothing wrong with that...

but why do you liberal nutcases ever mention what the DNC asked and paid for?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:11pm:

By the way.. When Trump asked the Ukraine President to look into Biden crimes... HE, Biden, wasn't running for President.. So another lie by Groggy...  ::)

You appear to be seeing things now.

I didn't say anything about Biden running for President.

Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:11pm: By the way.. When Trump asked the Ukraine President to look into Biden crimes... HE, Biden, wasn't running for President.. So another lie by Groggy...  ::) You appear to be seeing things now. I didn't say anything about Biden running for President. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

Go reread what you have written Knucklehead...\

You said that Biden was a "Political Opponent"

HE wasn't even running at that time, so, he wasn't a Political Opponent...

Groggy caught out lying again... ffs  ::)

Why is it a witch hunt for the FBI to investigate (with warrants) the Trump campaign over Russian interference but it is not a witch hunt for Trump to ask Ukraine (without warrants) to investigate Trump's political rival Joe Biden???

:-? :-? :-?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:15pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:11pm: By the way.. When Trump asked the Ukraine President to look into Biden crimes... HE, Biden, wasn't running for President.. So another lie by Groggy...  ::) You appear to be seeing things now. I didn't say anything about Biden running for President. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Go reread what you have written Knucklehead...\ You said that Biden was a "Political Opponent" HE wasn't even running at that time, so, he wasn't a Political Opponent... Groggy caught out lying again... ffs  ::)

Biden is a Democrat, and the alleged child rapist is a Republican.

Thus, they are political opponents.

You really don't understand much about politics, or life in general, do you?

As I said, asking a foreign power to do the alleged child rapist a “favor” by opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:21pm:

Why is it a witch hunt for the FBI to investigate (with warrants) the Trump campaign over Russian interference but it is not a witch hunt for Trump to ask Ukraine (without warrants) to investigate Trump's political rival Joe Biden??? :-? :-? :-?

Why are you covering for the Biden Crimes Phil?

Why doesn't it matter to you that the DNC colluded with Ukraine to beat Trump at the 2016 election...

even more recently... Clinton asked China to release Trumps Taxes...

yet you remain silent on all of this ...

you are as corrupt as they are....

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:15pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:11pm: By the way.. When Trump asked the Ukraine President to look into Biden crimes... HE, Biden, wasn't running for President.. So another lie by Groggy...  ::) You appear to be seeing things now. I didn't say anything about Biden running for President. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Go reread what you have written Knucklehead...\ You said that Biden was a "Political Opponent" HE wasn't even running at that time, so, he wasn't a Political Opponent... Groggy caught out lying again... ffs  ::)

What?

Trump's call to President Zelensky was in July 25, 2019...

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:21pm: Why is it a witch hunt for the FBI to investigate (with warrants) the Trump campaign over Russian interference but it is not a witch hunt for Trump to ask Ukraine (without warrants) to investigate Trump's political rival Joe Biden??? :-? :-? :-? Why are you covering for the Biden Crimes Phil?

He's committed no crime.

If you believe he has, please cite the relevant Section of the criminal code.

Now, as I said before, Trump asked a foreign power to do the him a “favor” by opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — that's illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

Nothing you do or say can change these facts.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:34pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:15pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:11pm: By the way.. When Trump asked the Ukraine President to look into Biden crimes... HE, Biden, wasn't running for President.. So another lie by Groggy...  ::) You appear to be seeing things now. I didn't say anything about Biden running for President. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Go reread what you have written Knucklehead...\ You said that Biden was a "Political Opponent" HE wasn't even running at that time, so, he wasn't a Political Opponent... Groggy caught out lying again... ffs  ::) What? Trump's call to President Zelensky was in July 25, 2019...

He's confused.

He doesn't even understand what a political opponent is.

It's all a bit too much for him to handle.

Poor dear.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:21pm: Why is it a witch hunt for the FBI to investigate (with warrants) the Trump campaign over Russian interference but it is not a witch hunt for Trump to ask Ukraine (without warrants) to investigate Trump's political rival Joe Biden??? :-? :-? :-? Why are you covering for the Biden Crimes Phil? Why doesn't it matter to you that the DNC colluded with Ukraine to beat Trump at the 2016 election...

Because it's a conspiracy theory trying to deflect the attention from Trump to someone else.


Quote:

even more recently... Clinton asked China to release Trumps Taxes...

But that's ok since you and your fellow tards said it was fine for Trump to ask Russia to hack Hillary's emails, you know, to try and fight corruption, just like Trump's tax returns yeah?

Or, are we still using different rules for Trump?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:15pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:11pm: By the way.. When Trump asked the Ukraine President to look into Biden crimes... HE, Biden, wasn't running for President.. So another lie by Groggy...  ::) You appear to be seeing things now. I didn't say anything about Biden running for President. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Go reread what you have written Knucklehead...\ You said that Biden was a "Political Opponent" HE wasn't even running at that time, so, he wasn't a Political Opponent... Groggy caught out lying again... ffs  ::)

what do you expect from Groggy , i mean we've all seen his/her form ..we continue ,

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/attkisson-if-sperry-reporting-correct-cia-whistleblower-likely-worried-trump-admin-is-getting-close-to-uncovering-dnc-ukrainian-crimes/

Attkisson: If Sperry Reporting Correct CIA ‘Whistleblower’ Likely Worried Trump Admin Is Getting Close to Uncovering DNC Ukrainian Crimes

by Jim Hoft November 3, 2019 254 Comments
The fake news media knows who the Schiff Anti-Trump leaker is — They just don’t want to report it because it will ruin their narrative in the impeachment investigation.
The Democrat media knows the truth will destroy them.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/eric-ciaramella-600x444.jpg

The complete list of anti-Trump CIA “whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella’s ties to top Democrat operatives will SHOCK YOU!

CIA snitch Eric Ciaramella filed a whistleblower complaint on August 12 over President Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Zelensky where the two discussed ferreting out corruption.  This included talk on investigating the Biden crime family.


** The so-called “whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella is a Democrat who had a “professional” tie to a 2020 Democrat.

** Ciaramella  coordinated and took guidance from Adam Schiff’s staff and Schiff lied about it.

** Schiff’s staff recommended attorneys for the so called “whistleblower.”

** Ciaramella was kicked out of the White House for leaking negative stories about Donald Trump in 2017.


** Trump-hater Ciaramella was behind the fake story that Putin told Trump to fire Comey — a COMPLETE FAKE NEWS STORY from 2017!

** Ciaramella’s attorneys worked for James Clapper, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, and donated to Joe Biden.

** An attorney for Ciaramella is a member of the #Resistance.

***Get Trump 2020 buttons @ TrumpButtons.com – Click Here***

** Ciaramella  worked with Joe Biden in the executive branch when he was Vice President.

** Ciaramella had no problem with the Joe Biden and Hunter Biden’s million dollar pay-for-play scandal with Ukraine.

** Ciaramella traveled with Joe Biden to the Ukraine.

** Ciaramella worked with DNC operative Alexandra Chalupa in the creation of the Trump-Russia collusion hoax.

** A former associate of James Clapper, Charles McCullough, assisted Ciaramella with his complaint against Trump.

** And Adam Schiff’s aides, Abigail Grace and Sean Misko worked with Ciaramella in the White House.

On Thursday investigative journalist Sharyl Attkisson opined that Ciaramella may have filed the second-hand complaint now because he is worried the Trump admininistration, including Attorney General Bill Barr and Prosecutor John Durham, are getting close to uncovering the Democrat-Deep State crimes in the 2016 election.

Sharyl Attkisson reported:

If the reporting is correct, it implies the “whistleblower” could have been worried Trump was getting close to uncovering Democrat links to Ukraine’s interference in US elections in 2016.

RealClearInvestigations is disclosing the name because of the public’s interest in learning details of an effort to remove a sitting president from office. Further, the official’s status as a “whistleblower” is complicated by his being a hearsay reporter of accusations against the president, one who has “some indicia of an arguable political bias … in favor of a rival political candidate” — as the Intelligence Community Inspector General phrased it circumspectly in originally fielding his complaint.

RealClearInvestigations, Oct. 30, 2019

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:15pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:11pm: By the way.. When Trump asked the Ukraine President to look into Biden crimes... HE, Biden, wasn't running for President.. So another lie by Groggy...  ::) You appear to be seeing things now. I didn't say anything about Biden running for President. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Go reread what you have written Knucklehead...\ You said that Biden was a "Political Opponent" HE wasn't even running at that time, so, he wasn't a Political Opponent... Groggy caught out lying again... ffs  ::) what do you expect from Groggy , i mean we've all seen his/her form ..we continue , https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/attkisson-if-sperry-reporting-correct-cia-whistleblower-likely-worried-trump-admin-is-getting-close-to-uncovering-dnc-ukrainian-crimes/ Attkisson: If Sperry Reporting Correct CIA ‘Whistleblower’ Likely Worried Trump Admin Is Getting Close to Uncovering DNC Ukrainian Crimes by Jim Hoft November 3, 2019 254 Comments The fake news media knows who the Schiff Anti-Trump leaker is — They just don’t want to report it because it will ruin their narrative in the impeachment investigation. The Democrat media knows the truth will destroy them. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/eric-ciaramella-600x444.jpg The complete list of anti-Trump CIA “whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella’s ties to top Democrat operatives will SHOCK YOU! CIA snitch Eric Ciaramella filed a whistleblower complaint on August 12 over President Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Zelensky where the two discussed ferreting out corruption.  This included talk on investigating the Biden crime family. ** The so-called “whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella is a Democrat who had a “professional” tie to a 2020 Democrat. ** Ciaramella  coordinated and took guidance from Adam Schiff’s staff and Schiff lied about it. ** Schiff’s staff recommended attorneys for the so called “whistleblower.” ** Ciaramella was kicked out of the White House for leaking negative stories about Donald Trump in 2017. ** Trump-hater Ciaramella was behind the fake story that Putin told Trump to fire Comey — a COMPLETE FAKE NEWS STORY from 2017! ** Ciaramella’s attorneys worked for James Clapper, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, and donated to Joe Biden. ** An attorney for Ciaramella is a member of the #Resistance. ***Get Trump 2020 buttons @ TrumpButtons.com – Click Here*** ** Ciaramella  worked with Joe Biden in the executive branch when he was Vice President. ** Ciaramella had no problem with the Joe Biden and Hunter Biden’s million dollar pay-for-play scandal with Ukraine. ** Ciaramella traveled with Joe Biden to the Ukraine. ** Ciaramella worked with DNC operative Alexandra Chalupa in the creation of the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. ** A former associate of James Clapper, Charles McCullough, assisted Ciaramella with his complaint against Trump. ** And Adam Schiff’s aides, Abigail Grace and Sean Misko worked with Ciaramella in the White House. On Thursday investigative journalist Sharyl Attkisson opined that Ciaramella may have filed the second-hand complaint now because he is worried the Trump admininistration, including Attorney General Bill Barr and Prosecutor John Durham, are getting close to uncovering the Democrat-Deep State crimes in the 2016 election. Sharyl Attkisson reported: If the reporting is correct, it implies the “whistleblower” could have been worried Trump was getting close to uncovering Democrat links to Ukraine’s interference in US elections in 2016. RealClearInvestigations is disclosing the name because of the public’s interest in learning details of an effort to remove a sitting president from office. Further, the official’s status as a “whistleblower” is complicated by his being a hearsay reporter of accusations against the president, one who has “some indicia of an arguable political bias … in favor of a rival political candidate” — as the Intelligence Community Inspector General phrased it circumspectly in originally fielding his complaint. RealClearInvestigations, Oct. 30, 2019

And does this change any of Trump's actions?

No.

You just want revenge, his literal life, of the whistleblower and likely his family because he blew the whistle on Trump's illegal behaviour.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/heres-why-corrupt-fbi-actors-strzok-and-page-referred-to-schiffs-suspected-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-as-charlie/

Here’s Why Corrupt FBI Actors Strzok and Page Referred to Schiff’s Suspected ‘Whistleblower’ Eric Ciaramella as ‘Charlie’

by Joe Hoft November 3, 2019 210 Comments

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We reported a couple of days ago that it is suspected that Lying Adam Schiff’s ‘whistleblower’ was Eric Ciaramella.  We now have some additional evidence on why Ciaramella was referred to as ‘Charlie’ in Strzok and Page texts.
As we reported, Dan Bongino put this all together in one of his podcasts –


https://youtu.be/g3I-FojWPc8

(At about the 10 minute mark Bongino unveils this entire twisted plot.)

In April of this year, Senators Grassley and Johnson sent a letter to Attorney General Barr asking him for any information on the following (or perhaps this was their way of encouraging him to look into something). What they specifically asked about was related to some text messages from corrupt FBI Agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page referring to a “CI guy” in the White House –

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Next Grassley and Johnson provide the exact text messages they wanted Barr to look into. The text from Peter Strzok says “Do we want Joe to go with Evania instead of Charlie for a variety of reasons?” –

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Grassley-Johnson-2-600x292.jpg

A footnote at the bottom of the Grassley and Johnson memo says “At this time it is unknown who “Charlie” is”.

On the beginning of the next page of their memo Grassley and Johnson share some more texts from Strzok and Page referring to “the CI guy” again in the White House –

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Grassley-Johnson-3-600x302.png

Grassley and Johnson ask Barr some shocking questions (highlighted below) –


The nature of these communications , and the precise purpose of any attempts to “develop relationships” with Trump or Pence transition team staff are not immediately clear. Were these efforts done to gain better communication between the respective parties, or were the briefings used as intelligence gathering operation? Further, did any such surveillance activities continue beyond the inauguration, and in the event they did, were those activities subject to proper predication? Any improper FBI surveillance activities that were conducted before or after the 2016 election must be brought to light and properly addressed.“

Strzok and Page in their texts were likely referring to fired FBI Director Andy McCabe and Bill Priestap per footnotes on that page. The reference to the “CI guy” is unclear.

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On Wednesday Paul Sperry announced at RealClearInvestigations.com in a post that the so-called ‘whistleblower’ in Lying Adam Schiff’s fake impeachment sham is none other than Eric Ciaramella. This is old news to us at TGP as well as Bongino and others on the web. (We first reported on Ciaramella on October 11th.)

But in Sperry’s post, he notes the exact pronunciation for Ciaramella’s name – (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) –

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Ciaramella-RCI-600x304.png

Bongino suspects that Sperry is trying to hint at something as the pronunciation of a name is not usually included in posts like Sperry’s. What Bongino suggests is that there is a connection between Sperry’s article and the Grassley and Johnson letter – Char-a-MEL-ah is the same ‘Charlie’ in the Strzok and Page communications.

Today we have more evidence why Eric Ciaramella was referred to as ‘Charlie’ by the Deep State and not ‘Eric’.  The answer is simple.
In various text messages between Strzok and Page they refer to a couple of individuals as ‘Eric’.  In one series of texts they refer to Eric Smith, a friend of Lisa Page’s and get the individual named ‘Eric’ confused with someone else named ‘Eric’ like perhaps Eric Holder –

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They mention Eric many times in their texts –

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-2-600x600.jpg

Again, numerous messages referring to Eric –

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-3-525x600.jpg

The reason they didn’t refer to Eric Ciaramella as Eric is because they already were having a hard time keeping track of which Eric they were talking about.  The simplified their lives by referring to Eric Ciaramella as ‘Charlie’ instead of Eric.  Also, Ciaramella’s last name sounds like Charlie.

The suspected whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella, worked with the Obama Administration in the Ukraine, spied on President Trump in the White House for Obama’s CIA and FBI and was apparently doing all he could to sabotage the Trump White House while he was there.
It’s against the law for the CIA to spy on our President. I thought the CIA was not allowed to spy in the US period.
Creepy and corrupt Adam Schiff used the whistleblower’s memo to start his corrupt and criminal impeachment sham investigation taking place in the House.

It sure looks like Eric Ciaramella is no hero, he is more likely a traitor and a crook. Hang him high!
Hat tip D. Manny

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:34pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:25pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:21pm: Why is it a witch hunt for the FBI to investigate (with warrants) the Trump campaign over Russian interference but it is not a witch hunt for Trump to ask Ukraine (without warrants) to investigate Trump's political rival Joe Biden??? :-? :-? :-? Why are you covering for the Biden Crimes Phil? He's committed no crime. If you believe he has, please cite the relevant Section of the criminal code. Now, as I said before, Trump asked a foreign power to do the him a “favor” by opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — that's illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Nothing you do or say can change these facts.

Hello?    :-/

Trump broke the law.  Pure and simple.

Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

Why do so many people here support illegal behaviour - are they criminals themselves?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:52pm:

Trump broke the law.  Pure and simple. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Why do so many people here support illegal behaviour - are they criminals themselves?

as POTUS he has an obligation to investigate the crimes that the BIDEN syndicate committed ,.. that's not a favour ,

thats the rule of LAW and the US has an obligation to investigate as much .. your sour grapes and limp wrist are noted , and discarded groggy

there is a penalty for committing treason in the US against a duly elected PRESIDENT  ..

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edition=prelim


18 USC Ch. 115: TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
From Title 18—CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I—CRIMES
CHAPTER 115—TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
Sec.
2381.Treason.
2382.Misprision of treason.
2383.Rebellion or insurrection.
2384.Seditious conspiracy.
2385.Advocating overthrow of Government.
2386.Registration of certain organizations.
2387.Activities affecting armed forces generally.
2388.Activities affecting armed forces during war.
2389.Recruiting for service against United States.
2390.Enlistment to serve against United States.
[2391.Repealed.]
       

Amendments
1994—Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330004(13), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2142, struck out item 2391 "Temporary extension of section 2388".

1953—Act June 30, 1953, ch. 175, §5, 67 Stat. 134, added item 2391.

§2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

Historical and Revision Notes
Based on title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., §§1, 2 (Mar. 4, 1909, ch. 321, §§1, 2, 35 Stat. 1088).

Section consolidates sections 1 and 2 of title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed.

The language referring to collection of the fine was omitted as obsolete and repugnant to the more humane policy of modern law which does not impose criminal consequences on the innocent.

The words "every person so convicted of treason" were omitted as redundant.

Minor change was made in phraseology.

Amendments
1994—Pub. L. 103–322 inserted "under this title but" before "not less than $10,000".

§2382. Misprision of treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

Historical and Revision Notes
Based on title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., §3 (Mar. 4, 1909, ch. 321, §3, 35 Stat. 1088).

Mandatory punishment provision was rephrased in the alternative.

Amendments
1994—Pub. L. 103–322 substituted "fined under this title" for "fined not more than $1,000".

§2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

Historical and Revision Notes
Based on title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., §4 (Mar. 4, 1909, ch. 321, §4, 35 Stat. 1088).

Word "moreover" was deleted as surplusage and minor changes were made in phraseology.

Amendments
1994—Pub. L. 103–322 substituted "fined under this title" for "fined not more than $10,000".

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 11:16am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 10:16am: FACTUAL EVIDENCE @ 8:05 * MUST WATCH ** So if your conspiracy theory is correct, that the Whistle Blower has been renamed to "Charlie" and then offer no evidence of him apparently spying against him? So let's say it's true, it get other people in trouble, but it doesn't help Trump.  He still broke the law.

Yep.

Trump broke the law.  Pure and simple.

Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

Why do so many people here support illegal behaviour - are they criminals themselves?

§2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

Historical and Revision Notes
Based on title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., §6 (Mar. 4, 1909, ch. 321, §6, 35 Stat. 1089).

Amendments
1994—Pub. L. 103–322 substituted "fined under this title" for "fined not more than $20,000".

1956—Act July 24, 1956, substituted "$20,000" for "$5,000", and "twenty years" for "six years".

Effective Date of 1956 Amendment
Act July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §3, 70 Stat. 624, provided that: "The foregoing amendments [amending this section and section 2385 of this title] shall apply only with respect to offenses committed on and after the date of the enactment of this Act [July 24, 1956]."

§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §2, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 87–486, June 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 103; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

Historical and Revision Notes
Based on title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., §§10, 11, 13 (June 28, 1940, ch. 439, title I, §§2, 3, 5, 54 Stat. 670, 671).

Section consolidates sections 10, 11, and 13 of title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed. Section 13 of title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., which contained the punishment provisions applicable to sections 10 and 11 of title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., was combined with section 11 of title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., and added to this section.

In first paragraph, words "the Government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein" were substituted for "any government in the United States".

In second and third paragraphs, word "such" was inserted after "any" and before "government", and words "in the United States" which followed "government" were omitted.

In view of these changes, the provisions of subsection (b) of section 10 of title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., which defined the term "government in the United States" were omitted as unnecessary.

Reference to conspiracy to commit any of the prohibited acts was omitted as covered by the general conspiracy provision, incorporated in section 371 of this title. (See reviser's note under that section.)

Words "upon conviction thereof" which preceded "be fined" were omitted as surplusage, as punishment cannot be imposed until a conviction is secured.

The phraseology was considerably changed to effect consolidation but without any change of substance.

Amendments
1994—Pub. L. 103–322 substituted "fined under this title" for "fined not more than $20,000" in fourth and fifth pars.

1962—Pub. L. 87–486 defined the terms "organizes" and "organize".

1956—Act July 24, 1956, substituted "$20,000" for "$10,000", and "twenty years" for "ten years" in the paragraph prescribing penalties applicable to advocating overthrow of government and inserted provisions relating to conspiracy to commit any offense named in this section.

Effective Date of 1956 Amendment
Amendment by act July 24, 1956, as applicable only with respect to offenses committed on and after July 24, 1956, see section 3 of act July 24, 1956, set out as a note under section 2384 of this title.

§2386. Registration of certain organizations
(A) For the purposes of this section:

"Attorney General" means the Attorney General of the United States;

"Organization" means any group, club, league, society, committee, association, political party, or combination of individuals, whether incorporated or otherwise, but such term shall not include any corporation, association, community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, literary, or educational purposes;

"Political activity" means any activity the purpose or aim of which, or one of the purposes or aims of which, is the control by force or overthrow of the Government of the United States or a political subdivision thereof, or any State or political subdivision thereof;

An organization is engaged in "civilian military activity" if:

(1) it gives instruction to, or prescribes instruction for, its members in the use of firearms or other weapons or any substitute therefor, or military or naval science; or

(2) it receives from any other organization or from any individual instruction in military or naval science; or

(3) it engages in any military or naval maneuvers or activities; or

(4) it engages, either with or without arms, in drills or parades of a military or naval character; or

(5) it engages in any other form of organized activity which in the opinion of the Attorney General constitutes preparation for military action;


An organization is "subject to foreign control" if:

(a) it solicits or accepts financial contributions, loans, or support of any kind, directly or indirectly, from, or is affiliated directly or indirectly with, a foreign government or a political subdivision thereof, or an agent, agency, or instrumentality of a foreign government or political subdivision thereof, or a political party in a foreign country, or an international political organization; or

(b) its policies, or any of them, are determined by or at the suggestion of, or in collaboration with, a foreign government or political subdivision thereof, or an agent, agency, or instrumentality of a foreign government or a political subdivision thereof, or a political party in a foreign country, or an international political organization.


(B)(1) The following organizations shall be required to register with the Attorney General:

Every organization subject to foreign control which engages in political activity;

Every organization which engages both in civilian military activity and in political activity;

Every organization subject to foreign control which engages in civilian military activity; and

Every organization, the purpose or aim of which, or one of the purposes or aims of which, is the establishment, control, conduct, seizure, or overthrow of a government or subdivision thereof by the use of force, violence, military measures, or threats of any one or more of the foregoing.

Every such organization shall register by filing with the Attorney General, on such forms and in such detail as the Attorney General may by rules and regulations prescribe, a registration statement containing the information and documents prescribed in subsection (B)(3) and shall within thirty days after the expiration of each period of six months succeeding the filing of such registration statement, file with the Attorney General, on such forms and in such detail as the Attorney General may by rules and regulations prescribe, a supplemental statement containing such information and documents as may be necessary to make the information and documents previously filed under this section accurate and current with respect to such preceding six months' period. Every statement required to be filed by this section shall be subscribed, under oath, by all of the officers of the organization.

(2) This section shall not require registration or the filing of any statement with the Attorney General by:

(a) The armed forces of the United States; or

(b) The organized militia or National Guard of any State, Territory, District, or possession of the United States; or

(c) Any law-enforcement agency of the United States or of any Territory, District or possession thereof, or of any State or political subdivision of a State, or of any agency or instrumentality of one or more States; or

(d) Any duly established diplomatic mission or consular office of a foreign government which is so recognized by the Department of State; or

(e) Any nationally recognized organization of persons who are veterans of the armed forces of the United States, or affiliates of such organizations.

(3) Every registration statement required to be filed by any organization shall contain the following information and documents:

(a) The name and post-office address of the organization in the United States, and the names and addresses of all branches, chapters, and affiliates of such organization;

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 11:16am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 10:16am: FACTUAL EVIDENCE @ 8:05 * MUST WATCH ** So if your conspiracy theory is correct, that the Whistle Blower has been renamed to "Charlie" and then offer no evidence of him apparently spying against him? So let's say it's true, it get other people in trouble, but it doesn't help Trump.  He still broke the law.

Yep.

Trump broke the law.  Pure and simple.

Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

Why do so many people here support illegal behaviour - are they criminals themselves?     :-/

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

U.S. Code § 2381.Treason
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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

U.S. Code § 2381.Treason
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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Lol      ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 1:01pm:

U.S. Code § 2381.Treason U.S. Code Notes prev | next Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. Lol      ;D

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

U.S. Code § 2381.Treason
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 12:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:52pm: Trump broke the law.  Pure and simple. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Why do so many people here support illegal behaviour - are they criminals themselves? as POTUS he has an obligation to investigate the crimes that the BIDEN syndicate committed ,.. that's not a favour ,

It is when he's asking not for an investigation but a public declaration of the investigation, organising it all through his personal lawyer who admitted he was working in the interests of the President, his client and not the country (as he doesn't have any clearance), and set up a clandestine second foreign policy team totally outside of the established protocols without any use of diplomatic channels and he didn't use the Mutual Legal Assistance Agreement.

Once discovered and reported to White House lawyers, they try to coverup the call.

You can't spin what Trump did into a fight against corruption when HIS ACTIONS were corrupt.


Quote:

thats the rule of LAW and the US has an obligation to investigate as much .. your sour grapes and limp wrist are noted , and discarded groggy

Ignore the truth all you like Light.  You won't be able to ignore it forever.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 1:06pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:52pm: Trump broke the law.  Pure and simple. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Why do so many people here support illegal behaviour - are they criminals themselves? as POTUS he has an obligation to investigate the crimes that the BIDEN syndicate committed ,.. that's not a favour , It is when he's asking not for an investigation but a public declaration of the investigation, organising it all through his personal lawyer who admitted he was working in the interests of the President, his client and not the country (as he doesn't have any clearance), and set up a clandestine second foreign policy team totally outside of the established protocols without any use of diplomatic channels and he didn't use the Mutual Legal Assistance Agreement. Once discovered and reported to White House lawyers, they try to coverup the call. You can't spin what Trump did into a fight against corruption when HIS ACTIONS were corrupt. Quote: thats the rule of LAW and the US has an obligation to investigate as much .. your sour grapes and limp wrist are noted , and discarded groggy Ignore the truth all you like Light.  You won't be able to ignore it forever.

Who has the US declared war against?

I'm curious.

Some of the Trumpty Dumpties here don't seem to understand what treason actually is (even though it clearly defines it in the text they copy & paste).

Jesus, some of them don't even understand what  a political opponent is.

I wonder if any of them got past year nine at school.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 1:06pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:52pm: Trump broke the law.  Pure and simple. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Why do so many people here support illegal behaviour - are they criminals themselves? as POTUS he has an obligation to investigate the crimes that the BIDEN syndicate committed ,.. that's not a favour , It is when he's asking not for an investigation but a public declaration of the investigation, organising it all through his personal lawyer who admitted he was working in the interests of the President, his client and not the country (as he doesn't have any clearance), and set up a clandestine second foreign policy team totally outside of the established protocols without any use of diplomatic channels and he didn't use the Mutual Legal Assistance Agreement. Once discovered and reported to White House lawyers, they try to coverup the call. You can't spin what Trump did into a fight against corruption when HIS ACTIONS were corrupt. Quote: thats the rule of LAW and the US has an obligation to investigate as much .. your sour grapes and limp wrist are noted , and discarded groggy Ignore the truth all you like Light.  You won't be able to ignore it forever.

Biden abused his office,

the Ukrain prosecutor was investigating JOE Bidens son HUNTER and Burisma

Biden said he would with hold over A BILLION from the US if the prosecutor was not FIRED,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3S-T7uh58&feature=youtu.be

Report: Joe Biden intervened on his son's behalf

this is a crime and is being investigated by A.G.Barr and Durham as well ..stay tuned *

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 1:10pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 1:06pm: it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:52pm: Trump broke the law.  Pure and simple. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Why do so many people here support illegal behaviour - are they criminals themselves? as POTUS he has an obligation to investigate the crimes that the BIDEN syndicate committed ,.. that's not a favour , It is when he's asking not for an investigation but a public declaration of the investigation, organising it all through his personal lawyer who admitted he was working in the interests of the President, his client and not the country (as he doesn't have any clearance), and set up a clandestine second foreign policy team totally outside of the established protocols without any use of diplomatic channels and he didn't use the Mutual Legal Assistance Agreement. Once discovered and reported to White House lawyers, they try to coverup the call. You can't spin what Trump did into a fight against corruption when HIS ACTIONS were corrupt. Quote: thats the rule of LAW and the US has an obligation to investigate as much .. your sour grapes and limp wrist are noted , and discarded groggy Ignore the truth all you like Light.  You won't be able to ignore it forever. Who has the US declared war against? I'm curious. Some of the Trumpty Dumpties here don't seem to understand what treason actually is (even though it clearly defines it in the text they copy & paste). Jesus, some of them don't even understand what  a political opponent is. I wonder if any of them got past year nine at school.

this is how daft you are groggy ,

the Democrats and deep state have contradicted their oath of office and colluded and levied WAR against the US ( A DULY ELECTED POTUS ) ..

thats called treason , if you cant keep up with facts and you are confused , we just found you out

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

U.S. Code § 2381.Treason
U.S. Code
Notes
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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 1:14pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 1:06pm: it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 12:52pm: Trump broke the law.  Pure and simple. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” Why do so many people here support illegal behaviour - are they criminals themselves? as POTUS he has an obligation to investigate the crimes that the BIDEN syndicate committed ,.. that's not a favour , It is when he's asking not for an investigation but a public declaration of the investigation, organising it all through his personal lawyer who admitted he was working in the interests of the President, his client and not the country (as he doesn't have any clearance), and set up a clandestine second foreign policy team totally outside of the established protocols without any use of diplomatic channels and he didn't use the Mutual Legal Assistance Agreement. Once discovered and reported to White House lawyers, they try to coverup the call. You can't spin what Trump did into a fight against corruption when HIS ACTIONS were corrupt. Quote: thats the rule of LAW and the US has an obligation to investigate as much .. your sour grapes and limp wrist are noted , and discarded groggy Ignore the truth all you like Light.  You won't be able to ignore it forever. Biden abused his office,

He likely did.  There is no way his son with zero experience would have got that job.  But sadly, this behaviour doesn't break any laws.  if it did, I'd want him to be held to account and everyone else doing the same thing.

Trump on the other hand, he did break the law in abusing his power, so he should be held to account.

The problem with the Biden situation is that Trump's children are doing exactly the same thing.  So if you want to go Biden for the nepotism and getting his child a job because of his official position, you're foing to need to go agfter the Trumps too.


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the Ukrain prosecutor was investigating JOE Bidens son HUNTER and Burisma

It wasn't because Shokin was investigating a natural gas company tied to Biden's son, it was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians, according to a Ukrainian official and four former American officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe.

Shokin's inaction prompted international calls for his ouster and ultimately resulted in his removal by Ukraine's parliament.

Without pressure from Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations, Shokin would not have been fired according to Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kiev:

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."


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Report: Joe Biden intervened on his son's behalf

No, he didn't.  See above.


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this is a crime and is being investigated by A.G.Barr and Durham as well ..stay tuned *

Fine, investigate the "crime".

But again, it won't help Trump at all.  It's not a matter of "he did it first".  Trump's actions won't be changed by investigating someone else.

Stay Tuned indeed.

My prediction will be that all Barr isn't actually investigating anything, he's just saying it publically because that's what Trump wants, what he wanted from Ukraine over Biden.  Once Trump faces the music, Barr will just stop talking about the "investigation" and it will just go away without even a single stone turned, again.

No war, no treason.

It's as simple as that.

The alleged child rapist, however, has broken the law.

Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

this crime IS BEING INVESTIGATED..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCF9My1vBP4&t=1s

Biden made Ukraine fire top prosecutor investigating son’s firm – report

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

No war, no treason. It's as simple as that. The alleged child rapist, however, has broken the law. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

this is how daft you are groggy ,

the Democrats and deep state have contradicted their oath of office and colluded and levied WAR against the US ( A DULY ELECTED POTUS ) ..

thats called treason , if you cant keep up with facts and you are confused , we just found you out

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

U.S. Code § 2381.Treason
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

https://i.imgflip.com/3f6tdk.jpg

No war, no treason.

It's as simple as that.

The alleged child rapist, however, has broken the law.

Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 1:42pm:

No war, no treason. It's as simple as that. The alleged child rapist, however, has broken the law. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”

there is no thing of "value" just a crime that IS BEING INVESTIGATED..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCF9My1vBP4&t=1s

Biden made Ukraine fire top prosecutor investigating son’s firm – report

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 1:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 1:42pm: No war, no treason. It's as simple as that. The alleged child rapist, however, has broken the law. Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal. Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.” there is no thing of "value" just a crime that IS BEING INVESTIGATED.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCF9My1vBP4&t=1s Biden made Ukraine fire top prosecutor investigating son’s firm – report

Clinton being "investigated" for her emails cost her the 2016 election, announced just before the election.

This is exactly what Trump was trying to do with Biden, that and get the help of a foreign national.

It's 2016 all over again.

and groggy is trying to bury these facts ..

with spam and offtopic content

we stay ontopic here , take your Biden crimes to a Biden thread , as you are ignored here with offtopic rubbish

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/heres-why-corrupt-fbi-actors-strzok-and-page-referred-to-schiffs-suspected-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-as-charlie/

Here’s Why Corrupt FBI Actors Strzok and Page Referred to Schiff’s Suspected ‘Whistleblower’ Eric Ciaramella as ‘Charlie’

by Joe Hoft November 3, 2019 210 Comments

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We reported a couple of days ago that it is suspected that Lying Adam Schiff’s ‘whistleblower’ was Eric Ciaramella.  We now have some additional evidence on why Ciaramella was referred to as ‘Charlie’ in Strzok and Page texts.
As we reported, Dan Bongino put this all together in one of his podcasts –


https://youtu.be/g3I-FojWPc8

(At about the 10 minute mark Bongino unveils this entire twisted plot.)

In April of this year, Senators Grassley and Johnson sent a letter to Attorney General Barr asking him for any information on the following (or perhaps this was their way of encouraging him to look into something). What they specifically asked about was related to some text messages from corrupt FBI Agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page referring to a “CI guy” in the White House –

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Grassley-Johnson-1-600x352.jpg

Next Grassley and Johnson provide the exact text messages they wanted Barr to look into. The text from Peter Strzok says “Do we want Joe to go with Evania instead of Charlie for a variety of reasons?” –

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Grassley-Johnson-2-600x292.jpg

A footnote at the bottom of the Grassley and Johnson memo says “At this time it is unknown who “Charlie” is”.

On the beginning of the next page of their memo Grassley and Johnson share some more texts from Strzok and Page referring to “the CI guy” again in the White House –

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Grassley-Johnson-3-600x302.png

Grassley and Johnson ask Barr some shocking questions (highlighted below) –


The nature of these communications , and the precise purpose of any attempts to “develop relationships” with Trump or Pence transition team staff are not immediately clear. Were these efforts done to gain better communication between the respective parties, or were the briefings used as intelligence gathering operation? Further, did any such surveillance activities continue beyond the inauguration, and in the event they did, were those activities subject to proper predication? Any improper FBI surveillance activities that were conducted before or after the 2016 election must be brought to light and properly addressed.“

Strzok and Page in their texts were likely referring to fired FBI Director Andy McCabe and Bill Priestap per footnotes on that page. The reference to the “CI guy” is unclear.

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On Wednesday Paul Sperry announced at RealClearInvestigations.com in a post that the so-called ‘whistleblower’ in Lying Adam Schiff’s fake impeachment sham is none other than Eric Ciaramella. This is old news to us at TGP as well as Bongino and others on the web. (We first reported on Ciaramella on October 11th.)

But in Sperry’s post, he notes the exact pronunciation for Ciaramella’s name – (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) –

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Bongino suspects that Sperry is trying to hint at something as the pronunciation of a name is not usually included in posts like Sperry’s. What Bongino suggests is that there is a connection between Sperry’s article and the Grassley and Johnson letter – Char-a-MEL-ah is the same ‘Charlie’ in the Strzok and Page communications.

Today we have more evidence why Eric Ciaramella was referred to as ‘Charlie’ by the Deep State and not ‘Eric’.  The answer is simple.
In various text messages between Strzok and Page they refer to a couple of individuals as ‘Eric’.  In one series of texts they refer to Eric Smith, a friend of Lisa Page’s and get the individual named ‘Eric’ confused with someone else named ‘Eric’ like perhaps Eric Holder –

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-1-563x600.jpg

They mention Eric many times in their texts –

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Again, numerous messages referring to Eric –

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The reason they didn’t refer to Eric Ciaramella as Eric is because they already were having a hard time keeping track of which Eric they were talking about.  The simplified their lives by referring to Eric Ciaramella as ‘Charlie’ instead of Eric.  Also, Ciaramella’s last name sounds like Charlie.

The suspected whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella, worked with the Obama Administration in the Ukraine, spied on President Trump in the White House for Obama’s CIA and FBI and was apparently doing all he could to sabotage the Trump White House while he was there.
It’s against the law for the CIA to spy on our President. I thought the CIA was not allowed to spy in the US period.
Creepy and corrupt Adam Schiff used the whistleblower’s memo to start his corrupt and criminal impeachment sham investigation taking place in the House.

It sure looks like Eric Ciaramella is no hero, he is more likely a traitor and a crook. Hang him high!
Hat tip D. Manny

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The alleged child rapist has broken the law.

Asking a foreign power to do him a “favor” of opening an investigation into his political opponent in exchange for a White House meeting and foreign aid — is illegal.

Specifically, it violates Section 201(b)(2) of the criminal code, which clearly prohibits public officials from seeking, receiving, accepting or offering anything of “value.”


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it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 1:47pm:

Today we have more evidence why Eric Ciaramella was referred to as ‘Charlie’ by the Deep State and not ‘Eric’.  The answer is simple. In various text messages between Strzok and Page they refer to a couple of individuals as ‘Eric’.  In one series of texts they refer to Eric Smith, a friend of Lisa Page’s and get the individual named ‘Eric’ confused with someone else named ‘Eric’ like perhaps Eric Holder – https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-1-563x600.jpg They mention Eric many times in their texts – https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-2-600x600.jpg Again, numerous messages referring to Eric – https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-3-525x600.jpg The reason they didn’t refer to Eric Ciaramella as Eric is because they already were having a hard time keeping track of which Eric they were talking about.  The simplified their lives by referring to Eric Ciaramella as ‘Charlie’ instead of Eric.  Also, Ciaramella’s last name sounds like Charlie. The suspected whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella, worked with the Obama Administration in the Ukraine, spied on President Trump in the White House for Obama’s CIA and FBI and was apparently doing all he could to sabotage the Trump White House while he was there. It’s against the law for the CIA to spy on our President. I thought the CIA was not allowed to spy in the US period. Creepy and corrupt Adam Schiff used the whistleblower’s memo to start his corrupt and criminal impeachment sham investigation taking place in the House. It sure looks like Eric Ciaramella is no hero, he is more likely a traitor and a crook. Hang him high! Hat tip D. Manny https://i.imgflip.com/3f6tdk.jpg

Most of those "facts" are without evidence and the few that are at least real don't mean what you're claiming they do.

And the only person attempting to bury anything is you when you spam them over and over in thread after thread...

This is what you do time and time again when you're been defeated.

Here we go again....

It doesn't matter what you think light, you've already been proven wrong, the ways in which you want to attack Biden as if that's a valid defense of Trump apply even MORE to Trump and his family yet you won't call for them to be held to account, so the only conclusion one can reach is that you're tolling, saying and doing anything you can to protect Trump and you don't even believe the lies you're telling are real or you don't care about the rule of law by only demanding justice from those you oppose.

All in all, it's the sort of belligerent bullshit you've been doing for years on here...

Ignoring you doesn't work because you're such an abashed attention whore and will just spam threads to death, so we speak out again you and your lies, the lies of your ilk and we won't have to for long.

The truth will come out about Trump and with any luck, you'll kill yourself in shame.

After all, calling for the death of those we oppose is something you've normalised in this thread alone, so you can't object to it.

Make and drink the Koolaid, do us all a favour.

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lets listen to Trump state the facts ..

9 hours ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzO2AT7XPso

Trump pushes back against impeachment inquiry in fiery remarks

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 2:00pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 1:47pm: Today we have more evidence why Eric Ciaramella was referred to as ‘Charlie’ by the Deep State and not ‘Eric’.  The answer is simple. In various text messages between Strzok and Page they refer to a couple of individuals as ‘Eric’.  In one series of texts they refer to Eric Smith, a friend of Lisa Page’s and get the individual named ‘Eric’ confused with someone else named ‘Eric’ like perhaps Eric Holder – https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-1-563x600.jpg They mention Eric many times in their texts – https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-2-600x600.jpg Again, numerous messages referring to Eric – https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-3-525x600.jpg The reason they didn’t refer to Eric Ciaramella as Eric is because they already were having a hard time keeping track of which Eric they were talking about.  The simplified their lives by referring to Eric Ciaramella as ‘Charlie’ instead of Eric.  Also, Ciaramella’s last name sounds like Charlie. The suspected whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella, worked with the Obama Administration in the Ukraine, spied on President Trump in the White House for Obama’s CIA and FBI and was apparently doing all he could to sabotage the Trump White House while he was there. It’s against the law for the CIA to spy on our President. I thought the CIA was not allowed to spy in the US period. Creepy and corrupt Adam Schiff used the whistleblower’s memo to start his corrupt and criminal impeachment sham investigation taking place in the House. It sure looks like Eric Ciaramella is no hero, he is more likely a traitor and a crook. Hang him high! Hat tip D. Manny https://i.imgflip.com/3f6tdk.jpg Most of those "facts" are without evidence and the few that are at least real don't mean what you're claiming they do. And the only person attempting to bury anything is you when you spam them over and over in thread after thread... This is what you do time and time again when you're been defeated. Here we go again.... It doesn't matter what you think light, you've already been proven wrong, the ways in which you want to attack Biden as if that's a valid defense of Trump apply even MORE to Trump and his family yet you won't call for them to be held to account, so the only conclusion one can reach is that you're tolling, saying and doing anything you can to protect Trump and you don't even believe the lies you're telling are real or you don't care about the rule of law by only demanding justice from those you oppose. All in all, it's the sort of belligerent bullshit you've been doing for years on here... Ignoring you doesn't work because you're such an abashed attention whore and will just spam threads to death, so we speak out again you and your lies, the lies of your ilk and we won't have to for long. The truth will come out about Trump and with any luck, you'll kill yourself in shame. After all, calling for the death of those we oppose is something you've normalised in this thread alone, so you can't object to it. Make and drink the Koolaid, do us all a favour. http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/DfLwM9kttDFEQ/giphy.gif

I'll drink to that   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 2:27pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 2:00pm: it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 1:47pm: Today we have more evidence why Eric Ciaramella was referred to as ‘Charlie’ by the Deep State and not ‘Eric’.  The answer is simple. In various text messages between Strzok and Page they refer to a couple of individuals as ‘Eric’.  In one series of texts they refer to Eric Smith, a friend of Lisa Page’s and get the individual named ‘Eric’ confused with someone else named ‘Eric’ like perhaps Eric Holder – https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-1-563x600.jpg They mention Eric many times in their texts – https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-2-600x600.jpg Again, numerous messages referring to Eric – https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Strzok-Page-Text-3-525x600.jpg The reason they didn’t refer to Eric Ciaramella as Eric is because they already were having a hard time keeping track of which Eric they were talking about.  The simplified their lives by referring to Eric Ciaramella as ‘Charlie’ instead of Eric.  Also, Ciaramella’s last name sounds like Charlie. The suspected whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella, worked with the Obama Administration in the Ukraine, spied on President Trump in the White House for Obama’s CIA and FBI and was apparently doing all he could to sabotage the Trump White House while he was there. It’s against the law for the CIA to spy on our President. I thought the CIA was not allowed to spy in the US period. Creepy and corrupt Adam Schiff used the whistleblower’s memo to start his corrupt and criminal impeachment sham investigation taking place in the House. It sure looks like Eric Ciaramella is no hero, he is more likely a traitor and a crook. Hang him high! Hat tip D. Manny https://i.imgflip.com/3f6tdk.jpg Most of those "facts" are without evidence and the few that are at least real don't mean what you're claiming they do. And the only person attempting to bury anything is you when you spam them over and over in thread after thread... This is what you do time and time again when you're been defeated. Here we go again.... It doesn't matter what you think light, you've already been proven wrong, the ways in which you want to attack Biden as if that's a valid defense of Trump apply even MORE to Trump and his family yet you won't call for them to be held to account, so the only conclusion one can reach is that you're tolling, saying and doing anything you can to protect Trump and you don't even believe the lies you're telling are real or you don't care about the rule of law by only demanding justice from those you oppose. All in all, it's the sort of belligerent bullshit you've been doing for years on here... Ignoring you doesn't work because you're such an abashed attention whore and will just spam threads to death, so we speak out again you and your lies, the lies of your ilk and we won't have to for long. The truth will come out about Trump and with any luck, you'll kill yourself in shame. After all, calling for the death of those we oppose is something you've normalised in this thread alone, so you can't object to it. Make and drink the Koolaid, do us all a favour. http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/DfLwM9kttDFEQ/giphy.gif I'll drink to that   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

we know groggy , we know ..

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https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-inquiry-11-03-2019/index.html

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-inquiry-11-03-2019/index.html Spot

CNN ???

oh yeah !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqpzk-qGxMU

Donald Trump shuts down CNN reporter: "You're fake news"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVwhkNBJ8Fc

Life, Liberty & Levin 11/3/19 | Breaking Fox News November 3, 2019

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-inquiry-11-03-2019/index.html Spot

“I have the real polls. I have the real polls,” Trump claimed. “The CNN polls are fake. The FOX polls have always been lousy, I tell them they ought to get themselves a new pollster, but the real polls, and you look at the polls that came out this morning, people don’t want anything to do with impeachment. It’s a phony scam. It’s a hoax. And the whistleblower should be revealed because the whistleblower gave false information.”

Clearly an insane man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBlnN85OWV8

WhistleBlower/Ciaramella?(Updated) - IPOT Presents - 11.4.19

Eric Ciaramella is a CIA operative and Spy ..

Adam Schiff has used this spy to take out a sitting US president ..

this is TREASON .

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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

U.S. Code § 2381.Treason
U.S. Code
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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/boom-president-trump-warns-democrats-on-top-deep-state-witness-alexander-vindman-well-youll-be-seeing-very-soon-what-comes-out-video/

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BOOM! President Trump Warns Democrats on Top Deep State Witness Alexander Vindman: “Well You’ll be Seeing Very Soon What Comes Out” (VIDEO)

by Jim Hoft November 3, 2019 442 Comments
President Trump spoke briefly with reporters before leaving for the UFC 244 in New York City.

During his presser he was asked about top Democrat impeachment witness Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman.

President Trump’s warned Democrats, “Well you’ll be seeing very soon what comes out and then you can ask the question in a different way.”


Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman testified last week in Adam Schiff’s basement chamber of secrets.

Vindman wore his full dress uniform to testify on his dislike of President Trump’s Ukrainian policy. Vindman would not tell Republican lawmakers during his secret basement chamber testimony who he informed about President Trump’s classified call. Vindman may be facing a court of law himself for his actions of spying on the US President.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1190772289559826439

Reuters reported on this exchange.

U.S. President Donald Trump said Saturday that more information would be released shortly about Alexander Vindman, the U.S. official who told Congress he was concerned that Trump’s call with Ukraine’s leader threatened national security.

Vindman, a U.S. Army lieutenant colonel and National Security Council official, has been targeted by Trump since his Oct. 29 congressional testimony was released. Trump tweeted that day that Vindman was a “Never Trumper witness.”

Asked whether he regrets calling the Vindman a “Never Trumper,” Trump told reporters on Saturday, “Well, you’ll be seeing very soon what comes out and then you can ask the question in a different way.”

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 4:25pm:

Eric Ciaramella is a CIA operative and Spy .. Adam Schiff has used this spy to take out a sitting US president .. this is TREASON . https://media1.tenor.com/images/1e622c9df0219c0a9d0f71d095857065/tenor.gif https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381 U.S. Code § 2381.Treason U.S. Code Notes prev | next Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. https://i.imgflip.com/3f6tdk.jpg

How is it Treason?

The President broke the law and was dobbed in.  That action was patriotic by the whistleblower, putting country before President.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 5:13pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 4:25pm: Eric Ciaramella is a CIA operative and Spy .. Adam Schiff has used this spy to take out a sitting US president .. this is TREASON . https://media1.tenor.com/images/1e622c9df0219c0a9d0f71d095857065/tenor.gif https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381 U.S. Code § 2381.Treason U.S. Code Notes prev | next Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. https://i.imgflip.com/3f6tdk.jpg How is it Treason? The President broke the law and was dobbed in.  That action was patriotic by the whistleblower, putting country before President.

oh I had to save this post from you sad face ..

this will come back on you like a ton of bricks ..

get up to speed here ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94KtqCPYxW8

2AM Sean Hannity 11/4/19 | Breaking Fox News November 4, 2019

@ 12:05 Devin Nunes explaines what Sen John Ratcliffe did to the "witness" today !!

Fox News, Nunes and Hannity, some of the least reliable sources.  And the things Nunes says aren't even accurate.

You'd know that if you'd bother to fact check it.

But your idea of fact-checking is "Do I agree with this, Yes, therefore it's True".

Wrong.

You've not even shown you know what Treason is.

Why must the whistle blower testify in person (written answers not good enough for Trump) when Trump and half his administration have refused to do so and only responded in writing....One rule for the corrupt and another for those trying to expose this lying ass hole???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

Why must the whistle blower testify in person (written answers not good enough for Trump) when Trump and half his administration have refused to do so and only responded in writing....One rule for the corrupt and another for those trying to expose this lying ass hole??? :-? :-? :-?

Well, the alleged child rapist can only read at a year 4 or 5 level so, if the written answers have words with three or more syllables in them, he's not gonna be able to understand them.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2019 at 10:20am:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 10:14am: Why must the whistle blower testify in person (written answers not good enough for Trump) when Trump and half his administration have refused to do so and only responded in writing....One rule for the corrupt and another for those trying to expose this lying ass hole??? :-? :-? :-? Well, the alleged child rapist can only read at a year 4 or 5 level so, if the written answers have words with three or more syllables in them, he's not gonna be able to understand them.

I heard Trump had to resubmit his answers because Congress will not accept answers written in crayon???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2019 at 10:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 10:20am: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 10:14am: Why must the whistle blower testify in person (written answers not good enough for Trump) when Trump and half his administration have refused to do so and only responded in writing....One rule for the corrupt and another for those trying to expose this lying ass hole??? :-? :-? :-? Well, the alleged child rapist can only read at a year 4 or 5 level so, if the written answers have words with three or more syllables in them, he's not gonna be able to understand them. I heard Trump had to resubmit his answers because Congress will not accept answers written in crayon??? :-? :-? :-?

Yes, I believe that to be true.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/11/05/whistleblower-must-testify-under-oath-jim-jordan-editorials-debates/4169556002/

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'Whistleblower' must testify under oath and in person: Rep. Jim Jordan

The Democrats’ impeachment push, based on this anonymous and secondhand complaint, is fundamentally unfair: Opposing view
Jim JordanOpinion contributor
There are 435 members of the House of Representatives. Only one knows the “whistleblower’s” identity: Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff.

Democrats are trying to impeach President Donald Trump less than a year before the election based on claims from this anonymous individual who has no firsthand knowledge of the president’s phone call with Ukraine’s president, but who admitted a political bias and reportedly worked with Joe Biden, a 2020 presidential candidate.

Six weeks ago, Schiff said the “whistleblower” would testify. He has now changed his mind. What happened in the interim? Just two things: We learned the individual met with Schiff’s staff. And we learned about their political bias.

The “whistleblower” only knew about the call from the characterizations of others. He waited 18 days before filing a complaint with the inspector general. During those 18 days, the “whistleblower” met with Schiff’s staff but failed to disclose this communication to the inspector general. Schiff also hid this meeting.

Americans understand fairness. They know when someone is getting a raw deal. The Democrats’ impeachment push, based on this anonymous and secondhand complaint, is fundamentally unfair.

Despite Schiff’s biased process, four fundamental facts have not changed:

►President Trump and President Volodymyr Zelensky affirmed there was no quid pro quo and no pressure.

►The transcript of the call shows no conditionality.

►At the time of the call, Ukraine did not know security aid was delayed.

►Ukraine never took any of the actions it was supposedly under pressure to take.

Government whistleblowers should be protected. But a fundamental tenet of due process is the ability to confront one’s accusers. On a matter as grave as impeachment, Americans should assess for themselves the credibility and motivations of the individual who initiated the inquiry.

That is why the “whistleblower” must testify under oath and in person.

Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, is ranking member of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWcLXfwFyJY

Barrasso: Whistleblower must testify in front of Congress for sake of transparency

In the hearings no Republican supported Trump - not one.

Republicans now concede that the quid pro quo did in fact happen but jokingly doubt that it reaches the level of penalty

See if you can find an example of a republican claiming Trump is innocent ?

Note: that even Trump when calling all his opponents traitors etc he falls short of claiming that he didn't do it.

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 6^th, 2019 at 5:13pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWcLXfwFyJY Barrasso: Whistleblower must testify in front of Congress for sake of transparency

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNcR0SXZzZ8

KA BOOM! Donald Trump Jr. Tweets Name Of Whistleblower

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1192078857031036931


Quote:

Donald Trump Jr. ‏ Verified account @DonaldJTrumpJr Follow Follow @DonaldJTrumpJr More Because of course he did!!! Alleged ‘Whistleblower’ Eric Ciaramella Worked Closely with Anti-Trump Dossier Hoaxer

wait for Libtard response !!!!!

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tiny libtard hears the news !!!


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There are federal protections for the Whistleblower and Donnie Jr may have just broken the law in revealing the details, the unconfirmed details I might add of the whistleblower.

I hope that is the whistleblower's name, then we can open an investigation in Jr and see if dear old Dad admits he had his son tweet that as he controls all their business dealings with his children, or if he throws his own kid under the bus.

Exciting times again.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 7^th, 2019 at 12:29pm:

There are federal protections for the Whistleblower and Donnie Jr may have just broken the law in revealing the details, the unconfirmed details I might add of the whistleblower. I hope that is the whistleblower's name, then we can open an investigation in Jr and see if dear old Dad admits he had his son tweet that as he controls all their business dealings with his children, or if he throws his own kid under the bus. Exciting times again.

He'd throw his own kids under the bus faster than you can say "I've never seen that little Jewish Princess before in my life".

He'd protect his daughter-wife.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 7^th, 2019 at 12:40pm:

He'd protect his daughter-wife.

I'm not so sure.

He'd protect his own ass before hers.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/33/68/793368591ab2f9a31071cac1c5288501.jpg

He'd let her go to prison, as long as he could arrange conjugal visits.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/hero-rand-paul-blocks-chuck-schumer-and-mazie-hironos-resolution-protecting-whistleblowers-and-anti-trump-scammers/

Hero Rand Paul Blocks Chuck Schumer and Mazie Hirono’s Resolution Protecting Whistleblowers and Anti-Trump Scammers

by Jim Hoft November 6, 2019 10 Comments
THANK YOU RAND PAUL!

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Radical Democrat Senators Chuck Schumer and Mazie Hirono pushed a unanimous consent request to support a resolution on the importance of protecting whistleblowers and anti-Trump scammers.

Rand Paul blocked the measure.


Rand Paul is a hero.

ABC News reported:

Sen. Rand Paul, R.-Ky., on Wednesday blocked a resolution to reaffirm whistleblower protections, accusing Democrats of “selective outrage.”

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D.-N.Y., and Sen. Mazie Hirono, D.-Hawaii, made a unanimous consent request, meaning all 100 senators must agree with no objections, to adopt a resolution underscoring the importance of protecting whistleblowers.

“I support whistleblowers, and I do think they have a role to play in keeping government accountable … but what we have seen over the last few years is that we have a system that we should continue to refine,” said Paul, as The Hill reported.

Paul suggested that Democrats drop their resolution and instead pass whistleblower legislation that he introduced earlier that day.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/update-top-democrat-witness-and-fired-ukrainian-amassador-yovanovitch-used-private-email-to-message-dem-staffer-lied-about-it-under-oath/

UPDATE: Top Democrat Witness and Fired Ukrainian Amassador Yovanovitch Used Private Email to Message Dem Staffer — LIED ABOUT IT UNDER OATH

by Jim Hoft November 8, 2019

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Tucker Carlson broke an exclusive on Thursday on the ongoing Democrat Party impeachment inquisition.

According to Tucker Carlson a Democrat staffer contacted the fired Ukrainian ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, by email and asked for some time to discuss a “delicate” issue days after “whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella filed his complaint against President Trump.

The Tucker Carlson team acquired a copy of the email from that Democratic staffer to Yovanovitch. This was sent by private email to the former ambassador.


Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-NY) asked Ambassador Yovanovitch about the email during her testimony before Adam Schiff’s impeachment committee.

Yovanovitch lied and said she “never personally responded to it.” But that was not true. Yovanovitch did respond to the staffer saying, “Look forward to talking to you.”

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But now there’s more…

According to The Daily Mail the former ambassador ‘used her personal email to message Democrat staffer who asked her about a “time-sensitive” and “delicate issue” a month before the so-called whistleblower’s complaint was filed.


Former Ambassador Yovanovitch is in a heap of trouble.

If she were a Republican she’d be put in isolation about now.

Here’s video via Tucker Carlson Tonight  from last night:

https://youtu.be/TcWmpA5vSWQ

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7663501/Former-ambassador-Ukraine-used-personal-email-account-message-Dem-staffer.html

https://saraacarter.com/whistleblower-and-dnc-contractor-visited-obama-wh-it-must-be-investigated/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-pug

Whistleblower and DNC Contractor Visited Obama WH. It Must Be Investigated.

By Sara Carter -November 8, 2019

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A controversial whistleblower who allegedly reported second-hand on President Donald Trump’s private conversation with the Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited the Obama White House on numerous occasions, according to Obama era visitor logs obtained by Judicial Watch.

Last week Real Clear Investigation’s first reported the whistleblower’s name. It is allegedly CIA officer Eric Ciaramella. His name, however, has been floating around Washington D.C. since the leak of Trump’s phone call. It was considered an ‘open secret’ until reporter Paul Sperry published his article. Ciaramella has never openly stated that he is the whistleblower and most news outlets are not reporting his name publicly.

He was detailed to the National Security Counsel during the Obama Administration in 2015 and was allegedly sent back to the CIA in 2017, after a number of people within the Trump White House suspected him of leaking information to the press, according to several sources that spoke with SaraACarter.com.

Further, the detailed visitor logs reveal that a Ukrainian expert Alexandra Chalupa, a contractor that was hired by the Democratic National Committee during the 2016 election, visited the White House 27 times.

Chalupa allegedly coordinated with the Ukrainians to investigate then candidate Trump and his former campaign manager Paul Manafort. Manafort was forced out of his short tenure as campaign manager for Trump when stories circulated regarding business dealings with Ukrainian officials. Manafort was later investigated and convicted by a jury on much lesser charges then originally set forth by Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel investigation. He was given 47 months in prison for basically failing to pay appropriate taxes and committing bank fraud.

Both Ciaramella and Chalupa are of interest to Republican’s investigating the what some conservatives have described as the second Trump ‘witch-hunt.’ And many have called for the whistleblower to testify to Congress.

They are absolutely correct and within the law. There is so much information and evidence that reveals that this was no ordinary whistleblower complaint but one that may have been based on highly partisan actions targeting Trump.

Here’s just one example: Ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee Devin Nunes said its impossible to have a fair impeachment inquiry without the testimony of the alleged whistleblower because he is a ‘fact foundational witness’ who had met with Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-CA, previously. Schiff had originally denied that he had any contact with his committee and then had to walk back his statements when it was revealed that the whistleblower had met with the Democrats prior to filing his complaint to the Intelligence Inspector General about the President.

BOTH MR. CIARAMELLA AND MS. CHALUPA SHOULD BE QUESTIONED ABOUT THE MEETINGS DOCUMENTED IN THESE VISITOR LOGS, TOM FITTON

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton, said the visitor logs reveal that there is much lawmakers or the American public don’t know about what happened during the 2016 presidential elections and moreover it raises very significant questions about the apparent partisan nature of the whistleblower.

“Judicial Watch’s analysis of Obama White House visitor logs raises additional questions about the Obama administration, Ukraine and the related impeachment scheme targeting President Trump,” said Fitton, in a press release Friday. “Both Mr. Ciaramella and Ms. Chalupa should be questioned about the meetings documented in these visitor logs.”

Read Below From Judicial Watch
The White House visitor logs revealed the following individuals met with Eric Ciaramella while he was detailed to the Obama White House:

Daria Kaleniuk: Co-founder and executive director of the Soros-funded Anticorruption Action Center (AntAC) in Ukraine. She visited on December 9, 2015
The Hill reported that in April 2016, during the U.S. presidential race, the U.S. Embassy under Obama in Kiev, “took the rare step of trying to press the Ukrainian government to back off its investigation of both the U.S. aid and (AntAC).”

Gina Lentine: Now a senior program officer at Freedom House, she was formerly the Eurasia program coordinator at Soros funded Open Society Foundations. She visited on March 16, 2016.
Rachel Goldbrenner: Now an NYU law professor, she was at that time an advisor to then-Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power. She visited on both January 15, 2016 and August 8, 2016.
Orly Keiner: A foreign affairs officer at the State Department who is a Russia specialist. She is also the wife of State Department Legal Advisor James P. Bair. She visited on both March 4, 2016 and June 20, 2015.
Nazar Kholodnitzky: The lead anti-corruption prosecutor in Ukraine. He visited on January 19, 2016.

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https://pjmedia.com/trending/alleged-whistleblower-cited-in-mueller-report-for-emails-leaked-to-nyt/

How Did the Alleged Ukraine Call Whistleblower End Up in the Mueller Report?

BY TYLER O'NEIL NOVEMBER 7, 2019

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Former special counsel Robert Mueller, checks pages in the report as he testifies before the House Judiciary Committee hearing on his report on Russian election interference, on Capitol Hill, Wednesday, July 24, 2019 in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
Eric Ciamarella, the CIA analyst identified as the likely whistleblower behind the Democrats' partisan impeachment inquiry, was cited in Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report on nonexistent collusion between Donald Trump and Russia. In fact, the Mueller report cites Ciaramella's May 2017 email summaries of a meeting between Trump and Russian officials — summaries leaked to a New York Times reporter. After citing Ciaramella's emails, the report quotes the Times story.

The Democrats launched their impeachment inquiry based in part on the report of an anonymous whistleblower who warned about a July 25, 2019, phone call between Trump and the president of Ukraine. Democrats emphasized the whistleblower even after Trump released a transcript of the call.

While Trump and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) have called for the unmasking of the whistleblower, Democrats have insisted that anonymity is vital for his protection. Some details have leaked, however: the whistleblower is reportedly a former and current CIA analyst with connections to former Vice President Joe Biden. RealClearInvestigations' Paul Sperry did some sleuthing and claimed to have identified the whistleblower as Ciaramella. Ciaramella was Biden's guest at a State Department banquet in October 2016.

The whistleblower also met with Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) before filing his report. His lawyer, Mark Zaid, celebrated a "coup" against Trump and predicted his impeachment in 2017.

Whistleblower Lawyer Defends Tweet Celebrating Deep State 'Coup' Against Trump
As The Washington Examiner's Jerry Dunleavy reported, Ciaramella appears in a footnote on Page 71 of Mueller's 448-page report. Mueller cited two emails from Ciaramella to then-Chief of Staff John Kelly and other administration officials describing the details of a meeting between Trump and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Trump met with them the day after he fired FBI Director James Comey.

"The meeting had been planned on May 2, 2017, during a telephone call between the President and Russian President Vladimir Putin, and the meeting date was confirmed on May 5, 2017, the same day the President dictated ideas for the Comey termination letter to [Trump aide] Stephen Miller," the Mueller report reads, citing Ciaramella's emails in a footnote.

The Mueller report went on to quote from a New York Times article published on May 19, 2017. That article cited an "American official" who leaked to reporters a "document summarizing the meeting."

"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," the article quoted Trump as saying. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off … I’m not under investigation."

Then-Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein justified Comey's firing by criticizing his handling of the investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's emails, but Trump later suggested he had fired Comey due to the Trump-Russia investigation. After Comey's firing, he leaked information from some of his memos to the media in order to prompt the appointment of a special counsel.

The Mueller report noted that "the White House did not dispute the account" of the meeting with Russian officials, but released a statement defending Trump's firing of Comey.

"By grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into Russia’s actions, James Comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with Russia," then-White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said at the time. "The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations."

If Ciaramella is the whistleblower behind the partisan impeachment inquiry, it stands to reason he may have leaked his emails to the media.

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Outed CIA Whistleblower Eric Ciaramella Accelerates “Day Of Reckoning” Set To Cancel 2020 Election

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A mainly redacted highly-classified “Of Special Importance” new Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today reveals that the task ordered to be conducted by the Security Council (SC) to assess the strategic geopolitical issues surrounding Russia’s largest oil company Rosneft ditching the US Dollar this past week in all energy purchases has determined this move was necessary and timely due to the growing instability now occurring in the United States—an assessment supported by Denmark yesterday removing the final hurdle to complete the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia to Europe in spite of fierce American objections—moves that can best be understood by one noticing that the US is continuing to plunge itself into the abyss of outright insanity—best exampled by it now being shockingly revealed that Penzeys Spices is the top spender of Trump impeachment ads intended to boost their sales to anti-Trump deranged leftists—one of whom, beyond all doubt, is leftist CIA operative Eric Ciaramella—who left his job as top assistant to National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster in early July-2017 because of his hatred and loathing of President Trump—who’s further connected to the Steele Dossier, former CIA Director John Brennan, Obama’s top national security advisor Susan Rice, and the transfer of funds from the IMF to the Ukraine which were stolen—was first outed in 2017 as being an Obama spy planted in the White House—worked with top Democrat Party operative Alexandra Chalupa in the creation of the Trump-Russia Collusion Hoax—and has now been outed as the so-called “whistleblower” working secretly with US House Intelligence chairman Adam Schiff and Obama’s former Vice President Joe Biden in yet another attempt to overthrow Trump—the dangerous absurdities of leading to catastrophe are being noticed with grave concern and alarm the world over—most notably today by the renowned American author and journalist James Howard Kunstler—who in his just released emergency article titled “We May Not Have A 2020 Election” warns the “Day Of Reckoning” is fast approaching—correctly warns that the US banking system is nearing a crackup—points out that the majority of the top mainstream media outlets in the US are about to named as co-conspirators in the plot to overthrow Trump—further warns “a great deal about our economy and our way of life is false and is going to fail”—rightfully predicts that “when all is said and done, I am not convinced there is enough there to convict President Trump of anything”—and grimly states in his conclusion: “I think one of the possibilities is we may not have a 2020 election.  In some way or another, the country may be so disorderly that we can’t hold an election. There may be so much strife that we cannot handle the legal questions around holding the election, and it may be suspended.”  [Note: Some words and/or phrases appearing in quotes in this report are English language approximations of Russian words/phrases having no exact counterpart.]

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https://www.westernjournal.com/biden-invited-alleged-whistleblower-swanky-state-dept-event-guest/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=WJBreaking&utm_campaign=ct-breaking&utm_content=western-journal

Biden Invited Alleged Whistleblower to Swanky State Dept Event as His Own Guest

Let’s face some facts: We have a pretty good idea who the whistleblower is. He’s still the “alleged whistleblower,” of course. However, that allegation seems to be less of a hunch or a conspiracy theory (depending on your positionality in this whole fracas) and something more substantive than an educated guess at this point.

That’s not quite how the mainstream media frames it. To them, this is all right-wing media theorizing that’s bled over into the White House and Congress, and every time we mention the name we’re irresponsibly putting a great American patriot in grave danger — assuming, of course, it’s him, which we have no evidence that it’s not.

The lack of any denial in that construction is curious indeed, but I digress. The name is out there thanks to a piece by controversial journalist Paul Sperry for RealClearInvestigations.

Sperry made the case that former White House intelligence analyst Eric Ciaramella, the National Security Council’s Ukraine director during the Obama administration and during the early days of the Trump administration, was the individual who originally lodged the complaint against Trump. It was compelling if not entirely believable.

The immediate anaphylactic reaction to the Sperry piece inside the Beltway, however, made me reconsider just how wrong I was. When one sees a blizzard of jeremiads all conspicuously lacking any sort of denial, it’s pretty apparent something’s up.

The biggest issue raised by Sperry’s piece was that the “some indicia of an arguable political bias” Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Horowitz described in his initial report was far more pervasive than previously assumed. If Ciaramella was the whistleblower, he was a man tied at the hip with Biden and who had plenty of other connections in Washington, although generally not with Jeff Sessions types.

The question became how close Ciaramella was with Biden and what kind of bias he might have had toward the candidate — particularly when the issue of Burisma was involved.

In that vein, I point you to a Thursday piece in the Washington Examiner in which Daniel Chaitin and Jerry Dunleavy note the fact that he “was a guest of Vice President Joe Biden at a glitzy lunch in October 2016 to honor the prime minister of Italy.”

“Ciaramella, 33, is listed among dozens of other people who were invited to the October 2016 event hosted by Biden under the category ‘WH EOVP,’ or the White House Executive Office of the Vice President, in an unclassified State Department document released through the Freedom of Information Act. An ‘A’ appears next to his name, indicating he accepted the invitation,” the Examiner reported.


Quote:

Do you think the whistleblower needs to testify before Congress? YES - 99% (746 Votes) NO - 1% (9 Votes)

“Besides inviting Ciaramella, Biden’s office, as opposed to the State Department or another entity, sent invitations to more than thirty other people, including Obama press secretary Josh Earnest, Obama senior adviser Valerie Jarrett, Obama Homeland Security adviser Lisa Monaco, Obama speechwriter Ben Rhodes, and Obama national security adviser Susan Rice,” the report added.

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it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

https://www.westernjournal.com/biden-invited-alleged-whistleblower-swanky-state-dept-event-guest/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=WJBreaking&utm_campaign=ct-breaking&utm_content=western-journal Biden Invited Alleged Whistleblower to Swanky State Dept Event as His Own Guest Let’s face some facts: We have a pretty good idea who the whistleblower is. He’s still the “alleged whistleblower,” of course. However, that allegation seems to be less of a hunch or a conspiracy theory (depending on your positionality in this whole fracas) and something more substantive than an educated guess at this point. That’s not quite how the mainstream media frames it. To them, this is all right-wing media theorizing that’s bled over into the White House and Congress, and every time we mention the name we’re irresponsibly putting a great American patriot in grave danger — assuming, of course, it’s him, which we have no evidence that it’s not. The lack of any denial in that construction is curious indeed, but I digress. The name is out there thanks to a piece by controversial journalist Paul Sperry for RealClearInvestigations. Sperry made the case that former White House intelligence analyst Eric Ciaramella, the National Security Council’s Ukraine director during the Obama administration and during the early days of the Trump administration, was the individual who originally lodged the complaint against Trump. It was compelling if not entirely believable. The immediate anaphylactic reaction to the Sperry piece inside the Beltway, however, made me reconsider just how wrong I was. When one sees a blizzard of jeremiads all conspicuously lacking any sort of denial, it’s pretty apparent something’s up. The biggest issue raised by Sperry’s piece was that the “some indicia of an arguable political bias” Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Horowitz described in his initial report was far more pervasive than previously assumed. If Ciaramella was the whistleblower, he was a man tied at the hip with Biden and who had plenty of other connections in Washington, although generally not with Jeff Sessions types. The question became how close Ciaramella was with Biden and what kind of bias he might have had toward the candidate — particularly when the issue of Burisma was involved. In that vein, I point you to a Thursday piece in the Washington Examiner in which Daniel Chaitin and Jerry Dunleavy note the fact that he “was a guest of Vice President Joe Biden at a glitzy lunch in October 2016 to honor the prime minister of Italy.” “Ciaramella, 33, is listed among dozens of other people who were invited to the October 2016 event hosted by Biden under the category ‘WH EOVP,’ or the White House Executive Office of the Vice President, in an unclassified State Department document released through the Freedom of Information Act. An ‘A’ appears next to his name, indicating he accepted the invitation,” the Examiner reported. Quote: Do you think the whistleblower needs to testify before Congress? YES - 99% (746 Votes) NO - 1% (9 Votes) “Besides inviting Ciaramella, Biden’s office, as opposed to the State Department or another entity, sent invitations to more than thirty other people, including Obama press secretary Josh Earnest, Obama senior adviser Valerie Jarrett, Obama Homeland Security adviser Lisa Monaco, Obama speechwriter Ben Rhodes, and Obama national security adviser Susan Rice,” the report added. https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/abyjtkgow7dclk0/images/1-8bcbbd4cc1.jpg

they didn't know each other though - just ask KangaNong  :D :D

Master Light - guess who just got outed in the FISA abuse investigations that has been going on for months now?

possibly prosecution for his/her part in the spying (Treason)

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

Master Light - guess who just got outed in the FISA abuse investigations that has been going on for months now? possibly prosecution for his/her part in the spying (Treason)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHbqZzbZARc

Message Sent, Caught The Swamp, They Never Thought She Would Lose - Episode 2016b

https://saraacarter.com/coup-has-started-whistleblowers-attorney-said-in-2017/

‘Coup has started’: Whistleblower’s Attorney said in 2017

By Staff Writer -November 6, 2019

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ou can’t make this…up.

Mark S. Zaid, the attorney for the whistleblower who reported the ‘Ukraine call’ is not a fan of President Trump.

Since January 2017, Zaid wrote that a “coup has started” and that “impeachment will follow ultimately.”

Then, in July 2017, Zaid remarked, “I predict @CNN will play a key role in @realDonaldTrump not finishing out his full term as president.” Also that month, Zaid tweeted, “We will get rid of him, and this country is strong enough to survive even him and his supporters.”

Amid a slew of impeachment-related posts, Zaid assured his Twitter followers that “as one falls, two more will take their place,” apparently referring to Trump administration employees who defy the White House.

The tweets, which came shortly after President Trump fired then-acting Attorney General Sally Yates for failing to defend federal laws in court, are likely to fuel Republican concerns that the anonymous whistleblower’s complaint is tainted with partisanship. Trump’s call with Ukraine’s leader, which is the subject of the complaint, occurred in July 2019.

“The whistleblower’s lawyer gave away the game,” the Trump campaign’s communications director, Tim Murtaugh. told Fox News. “It was always the Democrats’ plan to stage a coup and impeach President Trump and all they ever needed was the right scheme. They whiffed on Mueller so now they’ve settled on the perfectly fine Ukraine phone call. This proves this was orchestrated from the beginning.”


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Mark S. Zaid ✔ @MarkSZaidEsq #coup has started. First of many steps. #rebellion. #impeachment will follow ultimately. #lawyers https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/826255624610729985 … Jake Tapper ✔ @jaketapper .@POTUS fires acting AG Sally Yates  for "refusing to enforce a legal order designed to protect the citizens" of US

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Mark S. Zaid ‏ Verified account @MarkSZaidEsq Follow Follow @MarkSZaidEsq More Replying to @McAdooGordon @parrostroika and 2 others I've gotten clearances for guys who had child porn issues 8:02 PM - 10 Feb 2018

Many are sure you did MarkSZaid .. good good friends of yours im sure ..

https://www.penmediainc.com/2019/11/08/whistleblower-attorney-mark-zaid-youtube-channel-reveals-he-liked-disney-girls-videos/

Whistleblower Attorney Mark Zaid Youtube Channel Reveals He Liked “Disney Girls” Videos

by Paris WadeParis Wade
November 8, 2019, 8:20 am

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Whistleblower Attorney Mark Zaid liked videos such as "Top 10 Disney Girls" and removed them shortly after. (Twitter)
The Youtube channel of whistleblower attorney Mark Zaid was unveiled this week showing that that he had “liked” three videos with titles such as “Top 10 Disney Girls” and “Selena Gomez from child to women.”

Conservative talker Mark Dice tweeted that Zaid had liked the three videos titled, “Top 10 prettiest disney channel stars,” “Top 10 Disney girls,” and “Selena Gomez from child to women.” Check out the screenshot from Dice below.

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Dice pointed out the attorney’s Youtube was originally linked to his website and has since been removed after the above screenshot circulated.

“The link was removed from the website today, shortly after screenshots of the “liked” videos of young Disney stars started circulating,” said Dice.


Dice then said that Zaid pulled the videos from his channel since rumors been circulating online.


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Mark Dice ✔ @MarkDice The whistle blower's attorney @MarkSZaidEsq has scrubbed the link from his website that went to his YouTube channel.  Here's the archive showing it was there: http://archive.is/zzikn Now it's gone:  https://markzaid.com/zaid/ Here's the YouTube channel: http://YouTube.com/MarkSZaidEsq View image on Twitter 5,890 2:50 PM - Nov 7, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 4,931 people are talking about this

Zaid also enjoys visiting Disneyland and Universal Studios according to his Twitter despite fact he does not have kids.

“One does not need kids to be all the Disney one needs and wants to be,” Zaid Tweeted in February of 2018 in reply to Sam Vinograd, a CNN national security analyst and former Senior Advisor to Barrack Obama according to her twitter.


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Jewish Deplorable 🇺🇸 @TrumpJew · Nov 7, 2019 Mark S Zaid, the whistleblower’s lawyer, goes to Disney World by himself He also liked multiple videos on YouTube about underage Disney child actresses Odd, isn’t it? 👀

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WOW - Lock up all Disney Fans ?

Dnarever wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

WOW - Lock up all Disney Fans ?

https://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq/status/962537227757682688

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Mark S. Zaid ‏ Verified account @MarkSZaidEsq Follow Follow @MarkSZaidEsq More Replying to @McAdooGordon @parrostroika and 2 others I've gotten clearances for guys who had child porn issues 8:02 PM - 10 Feb 2018

https://twitter.com/IPOT1776/status/1191895014302896128


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In Pursuit of Truth ‏ @IPOT1776 Follow Follow @IPOT1776 More Fun Facts: Disney cruises went to Epstein Island. Epstein, is a paedophile. Disney has multiple paedophile cases, too. Disney owns ABC. ABC covers up Epstein story.

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it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 2:26pm: Master Light - guess who just got outed in the FISA abuse investigations that has been going on for months now? possibly prosecution for his/her part in the spying (Treason) https://i.imgflip.com/3eu0me.jpg

No

Some People call him "Charlie"

BOOM!  ;)

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 7:29am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 3:21pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 2:26pm: Master Light - guess who just got outed in the FISA abuse investigations that has been going on for months now? possibly prosecution for his/her part in the spying (Treason) https://i.imgflip.com/3eu0me.jpg No Some People call him "Charlie" BOOM!  ;)

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Heads up!


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Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett indicated the alleged Ukraine whistleblower could be "implicated" in the Justice Department inspector general's report on possible abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. In a report last week, Real Clear Investigations named CIA officer Eric Ciaramella as possibly being the whistleblower whose complaint sparked impeachment proceedings against President Trump. A post on Jarrett's personal website, authored by "staff" and shared by his verified Twitter account, said a key takeaway was the "reported direct relationship" Ciaramella had with former President Barack Obama's CIA Director John Brennan and national security adviser Susan Rice, as well as "the “Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election." This "makes them a likely candidate to be at the very least called as a witness in the cases that are likely to start following the FISA report," the post said, "In addition, his area of expertise is reportedly Russia and Ukraine; two of the reported locations where information used in the anti-Trump Russian Dossier was 'gathered.' The name that Real Clear Investigations revealed is also listed as a source in one of Robert Mueller’s footnotes in his report." The post said if the information in the RCI report is true, "it is possible that this 'whistleblower' could be one of the individuals who might need a defense lawyer in the coming weeks when the findings of the FISA report are made public."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fox-legal-analyst-signals-alleged-whistleblower-could-be-implicated-in-fisa-report

an interesting read. - s

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1184854506435239937.html

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1192581354850062336.html


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Ciaramella left his White house National Security Council post in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative LEAKS to the media, and has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. “He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” a former NSC official told Sperry. According to a former NSC co-worker, Ciaramella was behind the false narrative that Russian President Vladimir Putin directed Trump to fire former FBI director James Comey.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1192155600739684352.html

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1184854506435239937.html

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 7:58am:

an interesting read. - s https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1184854506435239937.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1192581354850062336.html Quote: Ciaramella left his White house National Security Council post in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative LEAKS to the media, and has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. “He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” a former NSC official told Sperry. According to a former NSC co-worker, Ciaramella was behind the false narrative that Russian President Vladimir Putin directed Trump to fire former FBI director James Comey. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1192155600739684352.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1184854506435239937.html

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:)

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Never a Whistleblower, A filhy Obama Hussein Spy.  >:(

SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 7:58am:

an interesting read. - s https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1184854506435239937.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1192581354850062336.html Quote: Ciaramella left his White house National Security Council post in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative LEAKS to the media, and has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. “He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” a former NSC official told Sperry. According to a former NSC co-worker, Ciaramella was behind the false narrative that Russian President Vladimir Putin directed Trump to fire former FBI director James Comey. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1192155600739684352.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1184854506435239937.html

Not so much.

Still on the shoot the messenger theme - no factual substance and zero attempt to support Trump with relevant fact.

https://saraacarter.com/whistleblower-attorney-mark-zaid-was-a-regular-expert-on-cnn-since-2017/?utm_source=Darkwire+Inc&utm_campaign=f28d84ff8b-Oct+9_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_5f3d745e4f-f28d84ff8b-289556701

Whistleblower attorney Mark Zaid was a regular expert on CNN since 2017

https://youtu.be/mAA4OezYVWY

Mark Zaid, the attorney representing the whistleblower at the center of the Democrats’ ongoing impeachment inquiry, has said CNN “will play a key role” in removing President Trump from office, and the liberal network has repeatedly given him a platform by booking him as a guest.

“I predict @CNN will play a key role in @realDonaldTrump not finishing out his full term as president,” Zaid tweeted in July 2017, one month after he made an appearance on the network.

Zaid has appeared as a guest on CNN at least 11 times since the start of 2017, when he predicted a “coup” just months after Trump was sworn in.

Fox News searched the records of the five CNN programs for which transcripts are publicly available, “CNN Newsroom,” “Erin Burnett OutFront,” “AC 360,” “Early Start” and “Cuomo Prime Time,” and found 11 instances where Zaid appeared.

Zaid appeared on CNN at least twice in April of 2017, at least once in May of 2017 and again in June of 2017 before his July tweet proclaiming CNN would “play a key role” in Trump’s removal. Zaid has appeared on CNN at least another seven times since tweeting about CNN’s perceived “key role” of the impeachment process.

CNN did not immediately respond to a series of questions, including whether or not Zaid will be allowed back on the network and whether or not his political leanings were disclosed when he appeared.

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 4:26pm:

“The link was removed from the website today, shortly after screenshots of the “liked” videos of young Disney stars started circulating,” said Dice. Dice then said that Zaid pulled the videos from his channel since rumours been circulating online.

How convenient, more unprovable claims, only the word of Dice, someone out to create content for views because he's a conspiracy theorist, activist, and right-wing, conservative YouTuber.

He's not only manufacturing content for views, but he's trying to protect Trump by attacking the whistleblower and his lawyer because they can't defend Trump on his actions. 

Hardly trustworthy, but he tells you tards what you want so who cared that it's unsubstantiated...

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 8:50am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 4:26pm: “The link was removed from the website today, shortly after screenshots of the “liked” videos of young Disney stars started circulating,” said Dice. Dice then said that Zaid pulled the videos from his channel since rumours been circulating online. How convenient, more unprovable claims, only the word of Dice, someone out to create content for views because he's a conspiracy theorist, activist, and right-wing, conservative YouTuber. He's not only manufacturing content for views, but he's trying to protect Trump by attacking the whistleblower and his lawyer because they can't defend Trump on his actions.  Hardly trustworthy, but he tells you tards what you want so who cared that it's unsubstantiated...

screenshots are still there , as this is .. are you defending this type of person as usual ?

the pattern continues ..and the proof of that is being documented

https://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq/status/962537227757682688

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1063668193787555841/QQm0gnCZ_bigger.jpg


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Mark S. Zaid ‏ Verified account @MarkSZaidEsq Follow Follow @MarkSZaidEsq More Replying to @McAdooGordon @parrostroika and 2 others I've gotten clearances for guys who had child porn issues 8:02 PM - 10 Feb 2018

https://twitter.com/IPOT1776/status/1191895014302896128


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In Pursuit of Truth ‏ @IPOT1776 Follow Follow @IPOT1776 More Fun Facts: Disney cruises went to Epstein Island. Epstein, is a paedophile. Disney has multiple paedophile cases, too. Disney owns ABC. ABC covers up Epstein story.

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https://www.penmediainc.com/2019/11/08/whistleblower-attorney-mark-zaid-youtube-channel-reveals-he-liked-disney-girls-videos/

Whistleblower Attorney Mark Zaid Youtube Channel Reveals He Liked “Disney Girls” Videos

by Paris WadeParis Wade
November 8, 2019, 8:20 am

https://www.penmediainc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/mark_zaid-disney-758x398.jpg

Whistleblower Attorney Mark Zaid liked videos such as "Top 10 Disney Girls" and removed them shortly after. (Twitter)
The Youtube channel of whistleblower attorney Mark Zaid was unveiled this week showing that that he had “liked” three videos with titles such as “Top 10 Disney Girls” and “Selena Gomez from child to women.”

Conservative talker Mark Dice tweeted that Zaid had liked the three videos titled, “Top 10 prettiest disney channel stars,” “Top 10 Disney girls,” and “Selena Gomez from child to women.” Check out the screenshot from Dice below.

https://www.penmediainc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/EIyYvHiUYAEBNvc-1024x577.jpg

Dice pointed out the attorney’s Youtube was originally linked to his website and has since been removed after the above screenshot circulated.

“The link was removed from the website today, shortly after screenshots of the “liked” videos of young Disney stars started circulating,” said Dice.


Dice then said that Zaid pulled the videos from his channel since rumors been circulating online.


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Mark Dice ✔ @MarkDice The whistle blower's attorney @MarkSZaidEsq has scrubbed the link from his website that went to his YouTube channel.  Here's the archive showing it was there: http://archive.is/zzikn Now it's gone:  https://markzaid.com/zaid/ Here's the YouTube channel: http://YouTube.com/MarkSZaidEsq View image on Twitter 5,890 2:50 PM - Nov 7, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 4,931 people are talking about this

Zaid also enjoys visiting Disneyland and Universal Studios according to his Twitter despite fact he does not have kids.

“One does not need kids to be all the Disney one needs and wants to be,” Zaid Tweeted in February of 2018 in reply to Sam Vinograd, a CNN national security analyst and former Senior Advisor to Barrack Obama according to her twitter.


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Jewish Deplorable 🇺🇸 @TrumpJew · Nov 7, 2019 Mark S Zaid, the whistleblower’s lawyer, goes to Disney World by himself He also liked multiple videos on YouTube about underage Disney child actresses Odd, isn’t it? 👀

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it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 8:56am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 10th, 2019 at 8:50am: it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 4:26pm: “The link was removed from the website today, shortly after screenshots of the “liked” videos of young Disney stars started circulating,” said Dice. Dice then said that Zaid pulled the videos from his channel since rumours been circulating online. How convenient, more unprovable claims, only the word of Dice, someone out to create content for views because he's a conspiracy theorist, activist, and right-wing, conservative YouTuber. He's not only manufacturing content for views, but he's trying to protect Trump by attacking the whistleblower and his lawyer because they can't defend Trump on his actions.  Hardly trustworthy, but he tells you tards what you want so who cared that it's unsubstantiated... screenshots are still there , as this is .. are you defending this type of person as usual ? the pattern continues ..and the proof of that is being documented https://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq/status/962537227757682688 https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1063668193787555841/QQm0gnCZ_bigger.jpg Quote: Mark S. Zaid ‏ Verified account @MarkSZaidEsq Follow Follow @MarkSZaidEsq More Replying to @McAdooGordon @parrostroika and 2 others I've gotten clearances for guys who had child porn issues 8:02 PM - 10 Feb 2018 https://twitter.com/IPOT1776/status/1191895014302896128 [quote]In Pursuit of Truth ‏ @IPOT1776 Follow Follow @IPOT1776 More Fun Facts: Disney cruises went to Epstein Island. Epstein, is a paedophile. Disney has multiple paedophile cases, too. Disney owns ABC. ABC covers up Epstein story.

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Do you see the humor in the fact that you hold Trump to a different standard even considering he has much of the same qualifications above as well as having been accused of peodofile rape in the company of his fun friend Epstein and having been recorded bragging about routinely sexually assaulting women ? Apparently some times it matters and then sometimes it doesn't.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 9:01am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 10th, 2019 at 8:56am: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 10th, 2019 at 8:50am: it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 9th, 2019 at 4:26pm: “The link was removed from the website today, shortly after screenshots of the “liked” videos of young Disney stars started circulating,” said Dice. Dice then said that Zaid pulled the videos from his channel since rumours been circulating online. How convenient, more unprovable claims, only the word of Dice, someone out to create content for views because he's a conspiracy theorist, activist, and right-wing, conservative YouTuber. He's not only manufacturing content for views, but he's trying to protect Trump by attacking the whistleblower and his lawyer because they can't defend Trump on his actions.  Hardly trustworthy, but he tells you tards what you want so who cared that it's unsubstantiated... screenshots are still there , as this is .. are you defending this type of person as usual ? the pattern continues ..and the proof of that is being documented https://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq/status/962537227757682688 https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1063668193787555841/QQm0gnCZ_bigger.jpg Quote: Mark S. Zaid ‏ Verified account @MarkSZaidEsq Follow Follow @MarkSZaidEsq More Replying to @McAdooGordon @parrostroika and 2 others I've gotten clearances for guys who had child porn issues 8:02 PM - 10 Feb 2018 https://twitter.com/IPOT1776/status/1191895014302896128 [quote]In Pursuit of Truth ‏ @IPOT1776 Follow Follow @IPOT1776 More Fun Facts: Disney cruises went to Epstein Island. Epstein, is a paedophile. Disney has multiple paedophile cases, too. Disney owns ABC. ABC covers up Epstein story. https://i.imgflip.com/3fs1zi.jpg

Do you see the humor in the fact that you hold Trump to a different standard even considering he has much of the same qualifications above as well as having been accused of peodofile rape in the company of his fun friend Epstein and having been recorded bragging about routinely sexually assaulting women ? Apparently some times it matters and then sometimes it doesn't.
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I only see the humor in your simple mindedness and stealth in belittling peado culture and the facts presented

so basically you are an enabler like the sad one and the ABC news network that wouldn't run the Epstien story 3 years ago ..

all documented and the facts will continue to be delivered in the face of your ignorant stupidity

so rejoice !

then be at peace

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Another deep state player with a taste for cheese pizza....beneath contempt.

Rider wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 9:12am:

Another deep state player with a taste for cheese pizza....beneath contempt.

correct Rider ,

and any libtard that comes in here trying to derail the focus of scrutiny will be whipped mercilessly