Did Trump Try to Extort Ukraine Into Smearing Joe Biden?  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Did Trump Try to Extort Ukraine Into Smearing Joe Biden?  ::)

Oh, the irony... After 3 years of screaming that Russia didn't interfere and the trump campaign didn't collude, the dumbest moron ever to hold office openly COLLUDES with a foreign power in order to INTERFERE with the election.

You couldnt make this stuff up. And listen to the sounds of republicans criticising his actions...


crickets...

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longweekend58 wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 4:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 2:44pm: Did Trump Try to Extort Ukraine Into Smearing Joe Biden?  ::) Oh, the irony... After 3 years of screaming that Russia didn't interfere and the trump campaign didn't collude, the dumbest moron ever to hold office openly COLLUDES with a foreign power in order to INTERFERE with the election. You couldnt make this stuff up. And listen to the sounds of republicans criticising his actions... crickets...

Masterful. You leftards should study Mr Trump' tactics - at least 5 years. You could spend about 6 months on this one, it's genius.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 6:15pm:

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They're being pathetic again, Mechanic. What's wrong with paying a foreign president to spy on Sleepy Joe?

I mean, seriously. Is this all they've got?

Who's the "whistleblower" and does he/she have any info?


You haters will believe anything bad about Trump - truth be dammed!

Its not that what you believe is wrong that is so disturbing but that you don't care!

From what I hear Trump had a conversation with the Ukraine leader and perhaps he did mention Joe's son. Perfectly acceptable for a President to do so.

The Dems want to attack first with and ward off a potentially damaging scandal by attacking the President and creating a smokescreen.

The origin of this story surrounds then VP Joe Biden whose son was being investigated by a Ukrainian prosecutor for corruption.

Joe stepped in and threatened that if the Ukrainian Gov did not sack the prosecutor - the grant of a billion or so dollars would not be forthcoming from the US.

Joe bragged about getting the Ukraine's top prosecutor - the "son of a bitch" sacked at a CFR meeting. The CFR (Council of Foreign Relations) is the heart of the US deep state and Joe probably felt confident saying these things - there. The Ukainian prosecutor complained that he was sacked because of pressure from Joe Biden and according to Joe he was.

Open and shut case of bribery! Just the media once again acting as agents of the Dems propaganda arm.

about 1.30 onward.

https://youtu.be/KCF9My1vBP4

Oh, stop playing the leftard's game, Rich. If Mr Trump can pay off the Ukranians to smear Sleepy Joe, good luck to him.

He is the president, you know. Why shouldn't he get these countries to work in Amerika's interest?

It's been his position from day 1.

Richdude wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 12:59am:

Who's the "whistleblower" and does he/she have any info? You haters will believe anything bad about Trump - truth be dammed! Its not that what you believe is wrong that is so disturbing but that you don't care! From what I hear Trump had a conversation with the Ukraine leader and perhaps he did mention Joe's son. Perfectly acceptable for a President to do so. The Dems want to attack first with and ward off a potentially damaging scandal by attacking the President and creating a smokescreen. The origin of this story surrounds then VP Joe Biden whose son was being investigated by a Ukrainian prosecutor for corruption. Joe stepped in and threatened that if the Ukrainian Gov did not sack the prosecutor - the grant of a billion or so dollars would not be forthcoming from the US. Joe bragged about getting the Ukraine's top prosecutor - the "son of a bitch" sacked at a CFR meeting. The CFR (Council of Foreign Relations) is the heart of the US deep state and Joe probably felt confident saying these things - there. The Ukainian prosecutor complained that he was sacked because of pressure from Joe Biden and according to Joe he was. Open and shut case of bribery! Just the media once again acting as agents of the Dems propaganda arm. about 1.30 onward. https://youtu.be/KCF9My1vBP4

You have to wonder about the moral climate the Dems and some Reps live in.

So arrogant and confident, they can say and do anything - totally above the law.

Well we have news for you criminals and it has started with the election of Donald Trump.

Panic time!

More masterful manoeuvring by the Donald.

He knows most " real" Americans only want to talk about hunting, their SUV and the NFL.

They wouldn't even know what "Ukraine" was.


So trump plays the leftie intellectual elite who are all totally out of touch and now, these " braying donkeys" just blabber on about something Steve and janeen have zero interest in.

This , of course , estranges the media from real America even more and plays directly into trumps
" the media have lost their minds" dynamic.


So masterful
So stunningly stupid of the leftie intellectual elite.

Steve and janeen are really really worried about the Ukraine  ;D
;D
;D ;D

You couldn't make this stuff up

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Another Media Lie Blows Up in Their Face… Ukrainian Govt. Initiated Contact with Trump Admin – Giuliani’s Involvement Was Requested by State Dept. As more pieces fall into place it becomes evident, once again, that the US media blew another hit piece on President Trump. The latest overly hyped Ukrainian scandal just blew up in their face. For over two years we've been reporting on Ukrainian collusion with the Hillary Clinton campaign. For the past six months TGP has been reporting on Joe Biden’s criminal acts in Ukraine. According to John Solomon it was the Ukrainians that initiated contact with the Trump administration and it was the State Department that encouraged Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani to meet with a top Ukrainian official in July in Spain. So the alleged far left “whistleblower” blew the story and the liberal media pounced on it anyway. It was just more fake news from the mainstream media. Giuliani didn’t initiate it. A senior U.S. diplomat contacted him in July and asked for permission to connect Yermak with him. Then, Giuliani met in early August with Yermak on neutral ground — in Spain — before reporting back to State everything that occurred at the meeting. That debriefing occurred Aug. 11 by phone with two senior U.S. diplomats, one with responsibility for Ukraine and the other with responsibility for the European Union, according to electronic communications records I reviewed and interviews I conducted. When asked on Friday, Giuliani confirmed to me that the State Department asked him to take the Yermak meeting and that he did, in fact, apprise U.S. officials every step of the way. “I didn’t even know who he [Yermak] really was, but they vouched for him. They actually urged me to talk to him because they said he seemed like an honest broker,” Giuliani told me. “I reported back to them [the two State officials] what my conversations with Yermak were about. All of this was done at the request of the State Department.” So, rather than just a political opposition research operation, Giuliani’s contacts were part of a diplomatic effort by the State Department to grow trust with the new Ukrainian president, Zelensky, a former television comic making his first foray into politics and diplomacy. Why would Ukraine want to talk to Giuliani, and why would the State Department be involved in facilitating it? According to interviews with more than a dozen Ukrainian and U.S. officials, Ukraine’s government under recently departed President Petro Poroshenko and, now, Zelensky has been trying since summer 2018 to hand over evidence about the conduct of Americans they believe might be involved in violations of U.S. law during the Obama years. The Ukrainians say their efforts to get their allegations to U.S. authorities were thwarted first by the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, which failed to issue timely visas allowing them to visit America. Then the Ukrainians hired a former U.S. attorney — not Giuliani — to hand-deliver the evidence of wrongdoing to the U.S. attorney's office in New York, but the federal prosecutors never responded. The U.S. attorney, a respected American, confirmed the Ukrainians’ story to me. The allegations that Ukrainian officials wanted to pass on involved both efforts by the Democratic National Committee to pressure Ukraine to meddle in the 2016 U.S. election as well as Joe Biden’s son’s effort to make money in Ukraine while the former vice president managed U.S.-Ukraine relations, the retired U.S. attorney told me. Eventually, Giuliani in November 2018 got wind of the Ukrainian allegations and started to investigate. As President Trump’s highest-profile defense attorney, the former New York City mayor, often known simply as Rudy, believed the Ukrainian's evidence could assist in his defense against the Russia collusion investigation and former special counsel Robert Mueller’s final report. So Giuliani began to check things out in late 2018 and early 2019, but he never set foot in Ukraine. And when Ukrainian officials leaked word that he was considering visiting Ukraine to meet with senior officials to discuss the allegations — and it got politicized in America — Giuliani abruptly called off his trip. He stopped talking to the Ukrainian officials. Since that time, my American and foreign sources tell me, Ukrainian officials worried that the slight of Giuliani might hurt their relations with his most famous client, Trump. And Trump himself added to the dynamic by encouraging Ukraine’s leaders to work with Giuliani to surface the evidence of alleged wrongdoing that has been floating around for more than two years, my sources said. It is likely that the State Department’s overture to Giuliani in July was designed to allay fears of a diplomatic slight and to assure the nascent Ukrainian administration that everything would be OK between the two allies.  The belief was that if Zelensky’s top lawyer could talk to Trump’s top lawyer, everything could be patched up, officials explained to me. Ukrainian officials also are discussing privately the possibility of creating a parliamentary committee to assemble the evidence and formally send it to the U.S. Congress, after failed attempts to get the Department of Justice’s attention, my sources say.

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Such machinations are common when two countries are navigating diplomatic challenges, and, often, extracurricular activities with private citizens are part of the strategy, even if they are not apparent to the American public.  So the media stories of Giuliani’s alleged political opposition research in Ukraine, it turns out, are a bit different than first reported. It’s exactly the sort of nuanced, complex news development that my mentor nearly 30 years ago warned about. And it’s too bad a shallow media effort has failed to capture the whole story and tell it to the American public in its entirety.  It’s almost as though the lessons of the now debunked Russia-Trump collusion narrative didn't really sink in for some reporters. And that is a loss for the American public. The continuing folly was evidenced when much attention was given Friday to Hillary Clinton’s tweet suggesting Trump’s contact with Zelensky amounted to an effort to solicit a foreign power to interfere in the next election. That tweet may be provocative, but it’s unfair. The contacts were about resolving what happened in the last election — and the last administration. And if anyone is to have high moral ground on foreign interference in elections, Clinton can’t be first in line. Her campaign lawyers caused Christopher Steele, a British foreign national desperate to defeat to Trump, to be hired to solicit unverified allegations from Russians about Trump as part of an opposition research project and then went to the FBI to trump up an investigation on Trump. And her party leaders, the Democratic National Committee, asked the Ukrainian Embassy to also try to dig up dirt on Trump. That’s not a record worthy of throwing the first punch on this story. The truth is, getting to the bottom of the Ukraine allegations will benefit everyone. If the Bidens and Ukraine did nothing wrong, they should be absolved. If wrongdoing happened, then it should be dealt with. The folly of the current coverage is preventing us from getting the answer we deserve.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/462422-missing-piece-to-the-ukraine-puzzle-state-departments-overture-to-rudy

Once again lyin forum Liberals have ended up with Egg on their stupid faces again.  ::)

This seems to be a weekly occurrence - when will you ever learn?

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Fireworks! Rudy Giuliani BLASTS Chris Cuomo for CNN’s Refusal to Cover MASSIVE 1.5 Billion BIDEN FAMILY UKRAINIAN SCANDAL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWD_iGYva2Q

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Joe Biden Crime Family After leaving office in 2017, Vice President Joe Biden Bragged about strong-arming the government of Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor. Joe Biden made the remarks during a meeting of foreign policy specialists. Biden said he, “Threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.” Biden suggested during his talk that Barack Obama was in on the threat. In April John Solomon revealed what Biden did not tell his audience. Joe Biden had Shokin fired because he was investigating Joe Biden’s son Hunter. Poroshenko was investigating $3 million in funds that were being transferred out of Ukraine and into accounts in the United States at that time. Joe Biden had him fired. In May President Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said in an interview that he plans to travel to Ukraine to push the country’s leadership on several probes that may prove “very, very helpful” to President Trump, as Republicans continue looking to turn the tables on Democrats and prove that they — not the GOP — were the party that improperly conspired with foreign actors. Rudy Giuliani later joined Sean Hannity to discuss this international scandal involving Joe Biden and his drug addict son, Hunter Biden. Rudy told Sean that Joe Biden will be investigated no matter what. Three days later Rep. Adam Schiff told ABC that President Trump should not be allowed to investigate Joe Biden’s criminal dealings in Ukraine. Joe Biden and his son also secured a billion-dollar China deal just days after former Vice President Joe Biden visited China in 2013. Now this week the liberal mainstream media has been pushing another Trump scandal with screaming headlines that they were convinced would take down the Trump regime.

https://conservativedailypost.com/whoops-joe-bidens-bragging-revives-ukrainian-nightmare-probe/

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Corrupt Obama Ambassador Refused Visas to Ukrainian Officials to Enter US — Had Evidence of Obama Admin Misconduct to Give to Trump Officials U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovich was a Trump-hater. She was appointed by Obama as ambassador to Ukraine in 2016. She was US ambassador to Ukraine during the 2016 election when the Ukrainian government was colluding with the DNC and Hillary Campaign to undermine the US presidential election. Starting in 2018 Yovanovich denied Ukrainian officials visas to enter the United States to hand over evidence of Obama administration misconduct to Trump administration officials. US Ambassador Yovanovich, an Obama appointee, was removed from her post in Ukraine early in May 2019. John Solomon According to interviews with more than a dozen Ukrainian and U.S. officials, Ukraine’s government under recently departed President Petro Poroshenko and, now, Zelensky has been trying since summer 2018 to hand over evidence about the conduct of Americans they believe might be involved in violations of U.S. law during the Obama years. The Ukrainians say their efforts to get their allegations to U.S. authorities were thwarted first by the U.S. embassy in Kiev, which failed to issue timely visas allowing them to visit America. The Ukrainian officials were denied their visas to enter the US in 2018. Corrupt Ambassador Yovanovich was fired by the Trump administration in May 2019 when all of the Ukrainian collusion with the DNC came to light. It is telling that far left Democrat lawmakers Steny Hoyer and Eliot Engels were most upset with Ambassador Yovanovitch’s removal. Via Foreign Policy magazine. Now, those lawmakers are bringing their concerns into the public. “The White House’s outrageous decision to recall her is a political hit job and the latest in this Administration’s campaign against career State Department personnel,” said Democratic Reps. Steny Hoyer, House majority leader, and Eliot Engel, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, in a joint statement made public Tuesday. “It’s clear that this decision was politically motivated, as allies of President Trump had joined foreign actors in lobbying for the Ambassador’s dismissal.”

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/462422-missing-piece-to-the-ukraine-puzzle-state-departments-overture-to-rudy

http://fp-reg.onecount.net/onecount/redirects/index.php?action=get-tokens&js=1&sid=&return=https%3A%2F%2Fforeignpolicy.com%2F2019%2F05%2F07%2Fus-ambassador-to-ukraine-recalled-in-political-hit-job-lawmakers-say-marie-yovanovitch-lutsenko-right-wing-media-accusations-congress-diplomats-diplomacy%2F&sid=p7ckbi4qga214066l6ag499rn4

THESE stories have been put on this forum months and months back.

The Forum Liberals ignored them hoping that they'd go away.

But once Trumps name was connected to them their TDS sent them into a shark feeding frenzy.

Only to, yet again, have the entire Fake News Narrative blow up in their stupid faces.

So it was good that the Lying Media tried to spin the story that somehow the DNC corruptness was Trump - because now everyone is taking an interest in the story and they have found the real culprits of Corruption.

Joe Biden is finished.

Yet another Obama scandal in his Scandal Free Government  :D :D :D

I love how every far fetch internet rumour that is without evidence other than red lines using ignorance to connect topics that have nothing to do with each other, digital or not are taken as fact if it helps the Trump narrative.

But anything else, even if there is actual evidence from the Mueller report detailing the instances of obstruction of justice from the Trump team, to those patriots alerting the authorities to things like this latest example with Trump and Ukraine, well that's Fake News or TDS.

If this isn't grounds for impeachment, what is?

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Masterful. You leftards should study Mr Trump' tactics - at least 5 years. You could spend about 6 months on this one, it's genius.

I am considering dedicating the rest of my life to studying Trump's latest move. The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius can't hold a candle to Trump's brillance.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 7:08am:

More masterful manoeuvring by the Donald. He knows most " real" Americans only want to talk about hunting, their SUV and the NFL.

You forgot NASCar and of course, who's screwing who in Hollywood, Aqua...  :roll:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 7:08am:

More masterful manoeuvring by the Donald. He knows most " real" Americans only want to talk about hunting, their SUV and the NFL. They wouldn't even know what "Ukraine" was. So trump plays the leftie intellectual elite who are all totally out of touch and now, these " braying donkeys" just blabber on about something Steve and janeen have zero interest in. This , of course , estranges the media from real America even more and plays directly into trumps " the media have lost their minds" dynamic. So masterful So stunningly stupid of the leftie intellectual elite. Steve and janeen are really really worried about the Ukraine  ;D ;D ;D ;D You couldn't make this stuff up

Oh, Steve and Janeen will be interested in the Ukraine if they suddenly discover Joe Biden is a crook, you'll see.

All Mr Trump has to do pay them $250 mil and Tweet about their "findings", true or not.

Cometh the hour, cometh the man, no?

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 1:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 7:08am: More masterful manoeuvring by the Donald. He knows most " real" Americans only want to talk about hunting, their SUV and the NFL. You forgot NASCar and of course, who's screwing who in Hollywood, Aqua...  :roll:

thats true,

i would advise donald to sponsor as nascar team and to make up some stories about him having affairs with hollywood stars.
you have to keep feeding the public to remain a star.

stories about obamacare or carbon taxes are just not going to rate.

people like stories like James Bond...a fascinating international man of mystery, much like the donalds intrigue around russia.

having russia as part of the narrative was a smart move by donald,
look how popular a movie like 'the hunt for red october ' was.

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 1:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 7:08am: More masterful manoeuvring by the Donald. He knows most " real" Americans only want to talk about hunting, their SUV and the NFL. You forgot NASCar and of course, who's screwing who in Hollywood, Aqua...  :roll:

No, dear, Aquascoot has it right here. Mr Trump is merely exposing the Deep State corruption inherent to the broken system.

Yes, by buying a foreign state investigation into a political opponent with military aid, Mr Trump's hoping to show us all how it's done.

Mr Trump wants Fat Steve and Janeen to wake up and smell the coffee. He's saying, do you see how bad your government has become? Can you see how the Amerikan Dream is DEAD?

Once they understand this, Mr Trump can become a boring president as he always promised, but first he wants to SHAKE IT UP a bit.

God speed, Mr President.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 1:27pm: aquascoot wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 7:08am: More masterful manoeuvring by the Donald. He knows most " real" Americans only want to talk about hunting, their SUV and the NFL. You forgot NASCar and of course, who's screwing who in Hollywood, Aqua...  :roll: thats true, i would advise donald to sponsor as nascar team and to make up some stories about him having affairs with hollywood stars. you have to keep feeding the public to remain a star. stories about obamacare or carbon taxes are just not going to rate. people like stories like James Bond...a fascinating international man of mystery, much like the donalds intrigue around russia. having russia as part of the narrative was a smart move by donald, look how popular a movie like 'the hunt for red october ' was.

Octopussy was popular too, dear. I'm sure they have a video player in the White House somewhere.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 10:28am:

I love how every far fetch internet rumour that is without evidence other than red lines using ignorance to connect topics that have nothing to do with each other, digital or not are taken as fact if it helps the Trump narrative. But anything else, even if there is actual evidence from the Mueller report detailing the instances of obstruction of justice from the Trump team, to those patriots alerting the authorities to things like this latest example with Trump and Ukraine, well that's Fake News or TDS.

Yes

Can you speak to Lyin Ross about that please KangaNong?

Pure speculation - you can tell by the article title whereby they ask a question because they have ZERO evidence.

In the mean time - read my 5 posts which blows the Forum liberal out of the water and expose those who are really corrupt scumbags.

Like Joe Biden
Hunter Biden
Hillery Clinton
Hussein Obama

there's a good boy  :)

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Stop what you are doing - WATCH>

"I SAID THAT IF THE PROSECUTOR IS NOT FIRED YOU ARE NOT GETTING THE BILLION DOLLARS"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5__8f6RsAaQ

There you go, Aquascoot. Mr Trump doesn't even need the Ukraine to do an investigation into Biden and his corrupt son. We're going with it anyway.

5 years - nothing less to study such a great man.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 5:59pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 10:28am: I love how every far fetch internet rumour that is without evidence other than red lines using ignorance to connect topics that have nothing to do with each other, digital or not are taken as fact if it helps the Trump narrative. But anything else, even if there is actual evidence from the Mueller report detailing the instances of obstruction of justice from the Trump team, to those patriots alerting the authorities to things like this latest example with Trump and Ukraine, well that's Fake News or TDS. Yes Can you speak to Lyin Ross

Lying?  Really?  Care to present some evidence that I have "lied", Cereal? 

Here, here's some space for you to present it:


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Of course, a failure by you to do so will prove that you are the real liar around here, Cereal.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 7:50am:

Quote: Fireworks! Rudy Giuliani BLASTS Chris Cuomo for CNN’s Refusal to Cover MASSIVE 1.5 Billion BIDEN FAMILY UKRAINIAN SCANDAL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWD_iGYva2Q

Unfortunately we are dealing with retards here - who are not interested in the truth.

The factual story of Joe Biden bribing the Ukrainian Gov has been a sleeper for many months.

The media is nervous that the story will resurface and destroy Joe's chances. So they thought they would get the first punch in and invent this story to distract from the truth..

Unlike the Russian fantasy, Ukrainian collusion is real and Trump has all the evidence.

Trump is right "the fake media is the enemy of the people".

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 5:59pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 10:28am: I love how every far fetch internet rumour that is without evidence other than red lines using ignorance to connect topics that have nothing to do with each other, digital or not are taken as fact if it helps the Trump narrative. But anything else, even if there is actual evidence from the Mueller report detailing the instances of obstruction of justice from the Trump team, to those patriots alerting the authorities to things like this latest example with Trump and Ukraine, well that's Fake News or TDS. Yes Can you speak to Lyin Ross about that please KangaNong? Pure speculation - you can tell by the article title whereby they ask a question because they have ZERO evidence. In the mean time - read my 5 posts which blows the Forum liberal out of the water and expose those who are really corrupt scumbags. Like Joe Biden Hunter Biden Hillery Clinton Hussein Obama there's a good boy  :) ---------- Stop what you are doing - WATCH> "I SAID THAT IF THE PROSECUTOR IS NOT FIRED YOU ARE NOT GETTING THE BILLION DOLLARS" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5__8f6RsAaQ

That's interesting serial that you would bring up the notion of children of a Vice President making money from foreign businesses while their father was in office...

What about all the instances of Ivanka's dealing that seem to coincide with what Trump says and does with foreign powers?

Are you saying this is something you find unacceptable that should be investigated, or, have there been "no credible reports"?

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 9:34pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 5:59pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 10:28am: I love how every far fetch internet rumour that is without evidence other than red lines using ignorance to connect topics that have nothing to do with each other, digital or not are taken as fact if it helps the Trump narrative. But anything else, even if there is actual evidence from the Mueller report detailing the instances of obstruction of justice from the Trump team, to those patriots alerting the authorities to things like this latest example with Trump and Ukraine, well that's Fake News or TDS. Yes Can you speak to Lyin Ross Lying?  Really?  Care to present some evidence that I have "lied", Cereal?  Here, here's some space for you to present it: Quote: Of course, a failure by you to do so will prove that you are the real liar around here, Cereal.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

This Thread is a perfect example.

Dropping dubious links that questions Trumps integrity then scuttling away without comment like a snake and allowing the stupid forum liberal to use YOUR SMEAR as fact.

You are a lowlife piece of garbage.

If all you are going to do is drop links all over the forum, like little bits of poop. without comment then scuttle away like a coward then don't drop them in the first place, snakes belly  >:(

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 5:33am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 5:59pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 10:28am: I love how every far fetch internet rumour that is without evidence other than red lines using ignorance to connect topics that have nothing to do with each other, digital or not are taken as fact if it helps the Trump narrative. But anything else, even if there is actual evidence from the Mueller report detailing the instances of obstruction of justice from the Trump team, to those patriots alerting the authorities to things like this latest example with Trump and Ukraine, well that's Fake News or TDS. Yes Can you speak to Lyin Ross about that please KangaNong? Pure speculation - you can tell by the article title whereby they ask a question because they have ZERO evidence. In the mean time - read my 5 posts which blows the Forum liberal out of the water and expose those who are really corrupt scumbags. Like Joe Biden Hunter Biden Hillery Clinton Hussein Obama there's a good boy  :) ---------- Stop what you are doing - WATCH> "I SAID THAT IF THE PROSECUTOR IS NOT FIRED YOU ARE NOT GETTING THE BILLION DOLLARS" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5__8f6RsAaQ That's interesting serial that you would bring up the notion of children of a Vice President making money from foreign businesses while their father was in office... What about all the instances of Ivanka's dealing that seem to coincide with what Trump says and does with foreign powers? Are you saying this is something you find unacceptable that should be investigated, or, have there been "no credible reports"?

Ivanka's a noble capitalist, Sad. She's helping millions get out of poverty each year, dear.

You should study the Trump family if you want to get ahead.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 7:14am:

This Thread is a perfect example. Dropping dubious links that questions Trumps integrity then scuttling away without comment like a snake and allowing the stupid forum liberal to use YOUR SMEAR as fact.

You mean like you do to other posters on here?  Make claims about them then scurry away and use your other account to post in support of YOUR SMEAR as if it were a fact?


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You are a lowlife piece of garbage. If all you are going to do is drop links all over the forum, like little bits of poop. without comment then scuttle away like a coward then don't drop them in the first place, snakes belly  >:(

Agreed.

You want to call others liars but offer no proof, simply because you can't counter the facts that you don't like that they post, maybe don't do that in the first place?  Take your own advice?

Richdude wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 1:25am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 7:50am: Quote: Fireworks! Rudy Giuliani BLASTS Chris Cuomo for CNN’s Refusal to Cover MASSIVE 1.5 Billion BIDEN FAMILY UKRAINIAN SCANDAL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWD_iGYva2Q Unfortunately we are dealing with retards here - who are not interested in the truth. The factual story of Joe Biden bribing the Ukrainian Gov has been a sleeper for many months. The media is nervous that the story will resurface and destroy Joe's chances. So they thought they would get the first punch in and invent this story to distract from the truth.. Unlike the Russian fantasy, Ukrainian collusion is real and Trump has all the evidence. Trump is right "the fake media is the enemy of the people".

Spot on Rich...

Master Light and myself have already hit these stories 12 months or so back... and probably yourself as well...

This just goes to show how corrupt the MSM Media are... they have sat quietly hoping it will all go away...

But now this latest lying attack on Trump has massively backfired which has put a spotlight on Joe Biden’s corruption..

HE’s Toast...

The DNC need to get someone else to be the nominee....

There is also an ex Ukraine secret service agent spilling the beans on the previous Ukraine government and how they were funnelling money back to the Clinton Cartel...

So you have the Clinton Ukraine Scandals

Joe/Hunter Biden Ukraine Scandals

And also the Joe/Hunter Biden China Scandals

All blowing wide open...

I hope they stick with Joe though (if he’s not in jail by then)... It would be the biggest thrashing in US Political HIstory....  :) 

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It's Fake News folks.

You need a warrant to investigate American's and it is up to the justice department to seek such a warrant not the President???

::) ::) ::)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 9:31am:

Richdude wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 1:25am: SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 7:50am: Quote: Fireworks! Rudy Giuliani BLASTS Chris Cuomo for CNN’s Refusal to Cover MASSIVE 1.5 Billion BIDEN FAMILY UKRAINIAN SCANDAL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWD_iGYva2Q Unfortunately we are dealing with retards here - who are not interested in the truth. The factual story of Joe Biden bribing the Ukrainian Gov has been a sleeper for many months. The media is nervous that the story will resurface and destroy Joe's chances. So they thought they would get the first punch in and invent this story to distract from the truth.. Unlike the Russian fantasy, Ukrainian collusion is real and Trump has all the evidence. Trump is right "the fake media is the enemy of the people". Spot on Rich... Master Light and myself have already hit these stories 12 months or so back... and probably yourself as well... This just goes to show how corrupt the MSM Media are... they have sat quietly hoping it will all go away... But now this latest lying attack on Trump has massively backfired which has put a spotlight on Joe Biden’s corruption.. HE’s Toast... The DNC need to get someone else to be the nominee.... There is also an ex Ukraine secret service agent spilling the beans on the previous Ukraine government and how they were funnelling money back to the Clinton Cartel... So you have the Clinton Ukraine Scandals Joe/Hunter Biden Ukraine Scandals And also the Joe/Hunter Biden China Scandals All blowing wide open... I hope they stick with Joe though (if he’s not in jail by then)... It would be the biggest thrashing in US Political HIstory....  :)

This story is proof that the MSM works for the Dems or perhaps the Dems work for the MSM......... who knows.

This is a repeat of 2016 - once again as with Hillary Joe has been caught out.

Richdude wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 12:51pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 9:31am: Richdude wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 1:25am: SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 7:50am: Quote: Fireworks! Rudy Giuliani BLASTS Chris Cuomo for CNN’s Refusal to Cover MASSIVE 1.5 Billion BIDEN FAMILY UKRAINIAN SCANDAL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWD_iGYva2Q Unfortunately we are dealing with retards here - who are not interested in the truth. The factual story of Joe Biden bribing the Ukrainian Gov has been a sleeper for many months. The media is nervous that the story will resurface and destroy Joe's chances. So they thought they would get the first punch in and invent this story to distract from the truth.. Unlike the Russian fantasy, Ukrainian collusion is real and Trump has all the evidence. Trump is right "the fake media is the enemy of the people". Spot on Rich... Master Light and myself have already hit these stories 12 months or so back... and probably yourself as well... This just goes to show how corrupt the MSM Media are... they have sat quietly hoping it will all go away... But now this latest lying attack on Trump has massively backfired which has put a spotlight on Joe Biden’s corruption.. HE’s Toast... The DNC need to get someone else to be the nominee.... There is also an ex Ukraine secret service agent spilling the beans on the previous Ukraine government and how they were funnelling money back to the Clinton Cartel... So you have the Clinton Ukraine Scandals Joe/Hunter Biden Ukraine Scandals And also the Joe/Hunter Biden China Scandals All blowing wide open... I hope they stick with Joe though (if he’s not in jail by then)... It would be the biggest thrashing in US Political HIstory....  :)  This story is proof that the MSM works for the Dems or perhaps the Dems work for the MSM......... who knows. This is a repeat of 2016 - once again as with Hillary Joe has been caught out.

That's right, Rich. Sleepy Joe's been caught out having a son who worked in the Ukraine.

Unbelievable, isn't it? And the leftards still don't get it.

I mean, if Mike Flynn had to go because he was a Russian-Ukrainian agent, then why not Sleepy Joe?

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 7:14am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 9:34pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 5:59pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 10:28am: I love how every far fetch internet rumour that is without evidence other than red lines using ignorance to connect topics that have nothing to do with each other, digital or not are taken as fact if it helps the Trump narrative. But anything else, even if there is actual evidence from the Mueller report detailing the instances of obstruction of justice from the Trump team, to those patriots alerting the authorities to things like this latest example with Trump and Ukraine, well that's Fake News or TDS. Yes Can you speak to Lyin Ross Lying?  Really?  Care to present some evidence that I have "lied", Cereal?  Here, here's some space for you to present it: Quote: Of course, a failure by you to do so will prove that you are the real liar around here, Cereal.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::) This Thread is a perfect example. Dropping dubious links that questions Trumps integrity then scuttling away without comment like a snake and allowing the stupid forum liberal to use YOUR SMEAR as fact. You are a lowlife piece of garbage. If all you are going to do is drop links all over the forum, like little bits of poop. without comment then scuttle away like a coward then don't drop them in the first place, snakes belly  >:(

No evidence then that I have "lied", Cereal?  How typical of you to claim that one of your opponents is "lying" and not presenting any evidence when challenged.

I put a link up for comment and then I await comments - where is the crime in that?   It appears you feel that somehow, such actions are irredeemable. It came from a valid jouranlistic source.  It was not "fake news".  It was a truthful source.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

Well I feel accusing someone without evidence that they lie is irredeemable.  You, sir, are an out and out liar.  Simple.  You lie about others lying.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

Richdude wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 12:51pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 9:31am: Richdude wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 1:25am: SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 7:50am: Quote: Fireworks! Rudy Giuliani BLASTS Chris Cuomo for CNN’s Refusal to Cover MASSIVE 1.5 Billion BIDEN FAMILY UKRAINIAN SCANDAL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWD_iGYva2Q Unfortunately we are dealing with retards here - who are not interested in the truth. The factual story of Joe Biden bribing the Ukrainian Gov has been a sleeper for many months. The media is nervous that the story will resurface and destroy Joe's chances. So they thought they would get the first punch in and invent this story to distract from the truth.. Unlike the Russian fantasy, Ukrainian collusion is real and Trump has all the evidence. Trump is right "the fake media is the enemy of the people". Spot on Rich... Master Light and myself have already hit these stories 12 months or so back... and probably yourself as well... This just goes to show how corrupt the MSM Media are... they have sat quietly hoping it will all go away... But now this latest lying attack on Trump has massively backfired which has put a spotlight on Joe Biden’s corruption.. HE’s Toast... The DNC need to get someone else to be the nominee.... There is also an ex Ukraine secret service agent spilling the beans on the previous Ukraine government and how they were funnelling money back to the Clinton Cartel... So you have the Clinton Ukraine Scandals Joe/Hunter Biden Ukraine Scandals And also the Joe/Hunter Biden China Scandals All blowing wide open... I hope they stick with Joe though (if he’s not in jail by then)... It would be the biggest thrashing in US Political HIstory....  :)  This story is proof that the MSM works for the Dems or perhaps the Dems work for the MSM......... who knows. This is a repeat of 2016 - once again as with Hillary Joe has been caught out.

It’s coming out know that the “Whistileblower” has no direct connection to the allegations that they are pushing with Schitt....

No recordings
No Transcripts
Not even overhearing directly

“I was down at the pub and over heard on the next table”... ;D

What was the name of that Deepstate woman who (along with the Dems) wanted the DNI’s position?.. and when she didn’t get it she quit..  ;)

Fire him or you won’t be getting the Billion Dollars!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCF9My1vBP4


Quote:

Joe Biden made the remarks during a meeting of foreign policy specialists. Biden said he, “Threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.” Biden suggested during his talk that Barack Obama was also in on the threat. In April John Solomon revealed what Biden did not tell his audience. Joe Biden had Shokin fired because he was investigating bribes to Joe Biden’s son Hunter. Shokin was investigating $3 million in funds that were being transferred out of Ukraine and into accounts in the United States at that time. Joe Biden had him fired.

You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level???

::) ::) ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 4:50pm:

You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level??? ::) ::) ::)

Giuliani certainly did.

So Trump and his team were caught doing it with Russia, Trump admitted he'd do it again, and now Giuliani has admitted to them actually doing it with Ukraine.

"If this was Obama he'd be impeached already"

Indeed.

I agree, Mechanic. What a masterful manipulator.


Quote:

But Trump was not looking for “damaging information,” he was trying to coerce a foreign government into manufacturing false information about his Democratic rival so as to lend credence to a baseless conspiracy theory.

Who cares about the real corruption? This is about the ratings.


Quote:

On the airwaves, coverage of the viral rumors about Biden pushed by the White House has led to a flood of commentary from political reporters and cable news pundits, who are more eager to talk about how effective the tactic might be than to clearly inform the American people that they are being lied to. Notably absent from the discussion have been the voices of anti-corruption reformers in Ukraine, who welcomed the former vice president’s efforts to help them tackle endemic corruption in a country still run by and for a small group of powerful oligarchs with outsized political influence.

And yes, the FAKE news have been against Mr Trump from Day 1.


Quote:

On Saturday, the feedback loop — in which Trump and his surrogates fill the airwaves with lies about Biden, and political reporters discuss them as a problem for the Democrat — was closed with the release of an attack ad from Trump’s campaign, featuring a highlight reel of speculation about Biden from pundits, reporters and anchors on six different news shows, all echoing the president’s false claim that Biden’s intervention in Ukraine, might, somehow, be scandalous

https://theintercept.com/2019/09/22/reporters-stop-helping-donald-trump-spread-lies-joe-biden-ukraine/

Cometh the hour, cometh the man.

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 2:38pm:

Richdude wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 12:51pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 9:31am: Richdude wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 1:25am: SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 7:50am: Quote: Fireworks! Rudy Giuliani BLASTS Chris Cuomo for CNN’s Refusal to Cover MASSIVE 1.5 Billion BIDEN FAMILY UKRAINIAN SCANDAL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWD_iGYva2Q Unfortunately we are dealing with retards here - who are not interested in the truth. The factual story of Joe Biden bribing the Ukrainian Gov has been a sleeper for many months. The media is nervous that the story will resurface and destroy Joe's chances. So they thought they would get the first punch in and invent this story to distract from the truth.. Unlike the Russian fantasy, Ukrainian collusion is real and Trump has all the evidence. Trump is right "the fake media is the enemy of the people". Spot on Rich... Master Light and myself have already hit these stories 12 months or so back... and probably yourself as well... This just goes to show how corrupt the MSM Media are... they have sat quietly hoping it will all go away... But now this latest lying attack on Trump has massively backfired which has put a spotlight on Joe Biden’s corruption.. HE’s Toast... The DNC need to get someone else to be the nominee.... There is also an ex Ukraine secret service agent spilling the beans on the previous Ukraine government and how they were funnelling money back to the Clinton Cartel... So you have the Clinton Ukraine Scandals Joe/Hunter Biden Ukraine Scandals And also the Joe/Hunter Biden China Scandals All blowing wide open... I hope they stick with Joe though (if he’s not in jail by then)... It would be the biggest thrashing in US Political HIstory....  :)  This story is proof that the MSM works for the Dems or perhaps the Dems work for the MSM......... who knows. This is a repeat of 2016 - once again as with Hillary Joe has been caught out. That's right, Rich. Sleepy Joe's been caught out having a son who worked in the Ukraine. Unbelievable, isn't it? And the leftards still don't get it. I mean, if Mike Flynn had to go because he was a Russian-Ukrainian agent, then why not Sleepy Joe?

Joe Biden's son was paid 83,000/month to sit on the board of directors of a Ukrainian energy company . Even though he could not speak the language and knew nothing about energy.

Joe threatened to withhold a billion dollars and the chief prosecutor investigating Hunter's alleged corruption was sacked that very day. Then Hunter received a 3 million golden handshake.

Its all smoke and mirrors - a distraction from typical Dem/deep state corruption.

Its backfired against them - again. These people are stupid!

Trump Ukraine “Whistleblower”, Sue Gordon, Is Long Time CIA Employee
https://youtu.be/BUJz0CBxzco

Brilliant play by trump
International man of mystery
Even those who despise trump
Just cannot stop talking about him

He's like the kardashians on steroids

The ironic thing is the kardashians rely on their fans to keep their popularity as entertainment icons

But trump can remain an entertainment icon
Due to the media which doesn't even like him
They just put him on the front page again and again and again and again

There is no doubt the people like Gregory long weekend sad Skippy and abu are trump's greatest assets

Every morning he gets out of bed and falls to his knees crying tears of joy that the lefty media I going to give him another 24 hours of top rating exposure

Meanwhile Pocahontas sleepy Joe and crazy Bernie just wither on the vine
Such is the life of the superior man

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 4:28pm:

What was the name of that Deepstate woman who (along with the Dems) wanted the DNI’s position?.. and when she didn’t get it she quit..  ;)

Richdude wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 1:23am:

Trump Ukraine “Whistleblower”, Sue Gordon, Is Long Time CIA Employee https://youtu.be/BUJz0CBxzco

THIS could not have gone better for Trump.

Criminal Bidens exposed.

Deep State and C_A Blackhats exposed.

Obama and his criminal administration exposed.

and it was all the doing of a bumbling Lame Stream Media.

This has Road Runner all over it. 

Perfect.  ;D

---

Trump and his team keep breaking the law and yall keep excusing it.

Just wait until he comes for you...

Imagine what he'll do for himself if he gets a second term and doesn't have to worry about re-election.

You all keep defending him at your own risk.

Look, I think the point we need to take from this is that if Sleepy Joe can use a billion to blackmail the Ukraine into getting rid of corruption, Mr Trump can do the same to get them to cook up something on Joe.

It's politics, leftards, they all do it.

Richdude wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 1:23am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 2:38pm: Richdude wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 12:51pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 9:31am: Richdude wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 1:25am: SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 7:50am: Quote: Fireworks! Rudy Giuliani BLASTS Chris Cuomo for CNN’s Refusal to Cover MASSIVE 1.5 Billion BIDEN FAMILY UKRAINIAN SCANDAL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWD_iGYva2Q Unfortunately we are dealing with retards here - who are not interested in the truth. The factual story of Joe Biden bribing the Ukrainian Gov has been a sleeper for many months. The media is nervous that the story will resurface and destroy Joe's chances. So they thought they would get the first punch in and invent this story to distract from the truth.. Unlike the Russian fantasy, Ukrainian collusion is real and Trump has all the evidence. Trump is right "the fake media is the enemy of the people". Spot on Rich... Master Light and myself have already hit these stories 12 months or so back... and probably yourself as well... This just goes to show how corrupt the MSM Media are... they have sat quietly hoping it will all go away... But now this latest lying attack on Trump has massively backfired which has put a spotlight on Joe Biden’s corruption.. HE’s Toast... The DNC need to get someone else to be the nominee.... There is also an ex Ukraine secret service agent spilling the beans on the previous Ukraine government and how they were funnelling money back to the Clinton Cartel... So you have the Clinton Ukraine Scandals Joe/Hunter Biden Ukraine Scandals And also the Joe/Hunter Biden China Scandals All blowing wide open... I hope they stick with Joe though (if he’s not in jail by then)... It would be the biggest thrashing in US Political HIstory....  :)  This story is proof that the MSM works for the Dems or perhaps the Dems work for the MSM......... who knows. This is a repeat of 2016 - once again as with Hillary Joe has been caught out. That's right, Rich. Sleepy Joe's been caught out having a son who worked in the Ukraine. Unbelievable, isn't it? And the leftards still don't get it. I mean, if Mike Flynn had to go because he was a Russian-Ukrainian agent, then why not Sleepy Joe? Joe Biden's son was paid 83,000/month to sit on the board of directors of a Ukrainian energy company . Even though he could not speak the language and knew nothing about energy. Joe threatened to withhold a billion dollars and the chief prosecutor investigating Hunter's alleged corruption was sacked that very day. Then Hunter received a 3 million golden handshake. Its all smoke and mirrors - a distraction from typical Dem/deep state corruption. Its backfired against them - again. These people are stupid! Trump Ukraine “Whistleblower”, Sue Gordon, Is Long Time CIA Employee https://youtu.be/BUJz0CBxzco

But the chief prosecutor was not investigating Joe's son, dear. It'll cost 250 mil for that.

83 grand a month, eh?

That's the noble capitalist for you, Rich. Lifting people out of poverty, innit.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 6:30am:

Brilliant play by trump International man of mystery Even those who despise trump Just cannot stop talking about him He's like the kardashians on steroids The ironic thing is the kardashians rely on their fans to keep their popularity as entertainment icons But trump can remain an entertainment icon Due to the media which doesn't even like him They just put him on the front page again and again and again and again There is no doubt the people like Gregory long weekend sad Skippy and abu are trump's greatest assets Every morning he gets out of bed and falls to his knees crying tears of joy that the lefty media I going to give him another 24 hours of top rating exposure Meanwhile Pocahontas sleepy Joe and crazy Bernie just wither on the vine Such is the life of the superior man

Exactly. Mr Trump doesn't care if they finger him with corruption, it's all publicity.

Mr Trump doesn't let the FAKE media bother him. He knows they have a job to do too.

As long as Mr Trump gets his photo on the front page of Time, it's all good.

We will make Amerika great again, no?

This could be the scandal that gets Trump impeached. It is telling that this act of collusion and bribery occured DAYS after the Mueller testimony and because Dems refused to impeach over that, Trump went ahead and did it again.

As time goes on, the Dems are just as bad as the republicans. It is clearly obvious that NOTHING will ever stop Trump from acting criminally other than removal from office.

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 9:05am:

This could be the scandal that gets Trump impeached.

It's certainly got him worried.

In one of his "chopper talks" the other day, you could see the fear in his eyes as well as hear it in his voice.

His tiny little hands were trembling too.

This could be good   :)

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 9:05am:

This could be the scandal that gets Trump impeached. It is telling that this act of collusion and bribery occured DAYS after the Mueller testimony and because Dems refused to impeach over that, Trump went ahead and did it again. As time goes on, the Dems are just as bad as the republicans. It is clearly obvious that NOTHING will ever stop Trump from acting criminally other than removal from office.

IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH  :D :D :D

Go back to sucking on your bong Marla...  ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 4:50pm:

You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level??? ::) ::) ::)

YOU don’t get it phill..

Trump hasn’t done anything wrong and all you nutcases are calling for impeachment?

For what?

Where’s the evidence??

There’s clear evidence that the Biden family are corrupt and have engaged in illegal activity and all you Leftwing Nutjobs don’t want it investigated...

What does that say about you lot?

You know that the Clintons, Obama’s, Biden’s and DNC are corrupt as hell.... but you just don’t care...

As long as your team wins the next election...

How many countries did the Biden’s Extort money from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8td7JmW2sI&t=6s

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 9:05am:

This could be the scandal that gets Trump impeached. It is telling that this act of collusion and bribery occured DAYS after the Mueller testimony and because Dems refused to impeach over that, Trump went ahead and did it again. As time goes on, the Dems are just as bad as the republicans. It is clearly obvious that NOTHING will ever stop Trump from acting criminally other than removal from office.

Yes, but what's criminality, really?

I mean, bribing a foreign power with military aid to dig up dirt on your political opponents is actually good politics.

And then, having your lawyer blurt it out to the FAKE media - genius. It shows what a master player Mr Trump really is.

Cometh the hour, cometh the man.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 9:33am:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 4:50pm: You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level??? ::) ::) ::) YOU don’t get it phill.. Trump hasn’t done anything wrong and all you nutcases are calling for impeachment? For what? Where’s the evidence?? There’s clear evidence that the Biden family are corrupt and have engaged in illegal activity and all you Leftwing Nutjobs don’t want it investigated... What does that say about you lot? You know that the Clintons, Obama’s, Biden’s and DNC are corrupt as hell.... but you just don’t care... As long as your team wins the next election...

ah evidence... You mean the evidence that was presented to YOUR court hearing? The one that got you sent to jail?  You'd think you would have learned something about that experience.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 9:26am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 9:05am: This could be the scandal that gets Trump impeached. It's certainly got him worried. In one of his "chopper talks" the other day, you could see the fear in his eyes as well as hear it in his voice. His tiny little hands were trembling too. This could be good   :)

The Donald have a spine of steel
The Donald once said
I could shoot someone in times Square and get away with it

Absolutely amazing
The rules simply do not apply to trump
They apply to the chodes but trump is most un chode like

How did trump manage to manipulate the system so that he and he alone can receive the special treatment

One can only stand back in awe.
One should study trump as someone who has taken on the system understood the system and through his own force of personality beaten the system

I would think about 5 years is the correct amount of time to study this phenomenon

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 9:48am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 9:33am: philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 4:50pm: You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level??? ::) ::) ::) YOU don’t get it phill.. Trump hasn’t done anything wrong and all you nutcases are calling for impeachment? For what? Where’s the evidence?? There’s clear evidence that the Biden family are corrupt and have engaged in illegal activity and all you Leftwing Nutjobs don’t want it investigated... What does that say about you lot? You know that the Clintons, Obama’s, Biden’s and DNC are corrupt as hell.... but you just don’t care... As long as your team wins the next election... ah evidence... You mean the evidence that was presented to YOUR court hearing? The one that got you sent to jail?  You'd think you would have learned something about that experience.

Giuliani admitted that they did it...

Again...

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 9:48am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 9:33am: philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 4:50pm: You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level??? ::) ::) ::) YOU don’t get it phill.. Trump hasn’t done anything wrong and all you nutcases are calling for impeachment? For what? Where’s the evidence?? There’s clear evidence that the Biden family are corrupt and have engaged in illegal activity and all you Leftwing Nutjobs don’t want it investigated... What does that say about you lot? You know that the Clintons, Obama’s, Biden’s and DNC are corrupt as hell.... but you just don’t care... As long as your team wins the next election... ah evidence... You mean the evidence that was presented to YOUR court hearing? The one that got you sent to jail?  You'd think you would have learned something about that experience. Giuliani admitted that they did it... Again...

Collusion and Bribery?

Really  :o :o :o

Giuliani said that KangaRooted?????

I certainly hope you aren’t LYING 🤥 again Rooted...

You’ll have no trouble sharing this “Breaking” evidence with the rest of the forum... no?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 9:33am:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 4:50pm: You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level??? ::) ::) ::) YOU don’t get it phill.. Trump hasn’t done anything wrong and all you nutcases are calling for impeachment? For what? Where’s the evidence??

It came straight out of Giuliani's mouth.

And Trump's too.

They've both admitted to it.

Extortion - Collusion - Bribery

???

Anyone???

There’s been pages and pages of Biden’s Extortion, Collusion and Bribery and you Leftwing lunatics have remained silent on that

Why won’t you address this corruption Lefties???

Accept PHil - he addressed this - He said no one should be allowed to investigate the Biden’s...  :D :D :D

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 9:48am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 9:33am: philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 4:50pm: You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level??? ::) ::) ::) YOU don’t get it phill.. Trump hasn’t done anything wrong and all you nutcases are calling for impeachment? For what? Where’s the evidence?? There’s clear evidence that the Biden family are corrupt and have engaged in illegal activity and all you Leftwing Nutjobs don’t want it investigated... What does that say about you lot? You know that the Clintons, Obama’s, Biden’s and DNC are corrupt as hell.... but you just don’t care... As long as your team wins the next election... ah evidence... You mean the evidence that was presented to YOUR court hearing? The one that got you sent to jail?  You'd think you would have learned something about that experience. Giuliani admitted that they did it... Again...

Indeed.

So has Trump.

This should be good   :)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 9:33am:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 4:50pm: You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level??? ::) ::) ::) YOU don’t get it phill.. Trump hasn’t done anything wrong and all you nutcases are calling for impeachment? For what? Where’s the evidence??

We're not playing this game now, dear. Giuliani's already fessed up.

We're now playing the moral equivalence game. You know, they all do it. Mr Trump never promised to be an angel. It's a tough world out there, believe me.

Let the leftards act all indignant and morally superior. The more they struggle, the more the trap tightens.

We're playing a much bigger game: bringing Washington down to our level. It's a stroke of genius, it really is. Once, they would have impeached for stuff like this - Nixon was forced to resign for far less. Now, everybody just shrugs their shoulders and says, so what? They all do it.

Let the leftards have their heart attacks. We'll continue making Amerika "great" again.

You know what I mean.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 10:25am:

Extortion - Collusion - Bribery ??? Anyone??? There’s been pages and pages of Biden’s Extortion, Collusion and Bribery and you Leftwing lunatics have remained silent on that Why won’t you address this corruption Lefties??? Accept PHil - he addressed this - He said no one should be allowed to investigate the Biden’s...  :D :D :D

Where’d everyone go?  :-/

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 11:14am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 9:33am: philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 4:50pm: You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level??? ::) ::) ::) YOU don’t get it phill.. Trump hasn’t done anything wrong and all you nutcases are calling for impeachment? For what? Where’s the evidence?? We're not playing this game now, dear. Giuliani's already fessed up. We're now playing the moral equivalence game. You know, they all do it. Mr Trump never promised to be an angel. It's a tough world out there, believe me. Let the leftards act all indignant and morally superior. The more they struggle, the more the trap tightens. We're playing a much bigger game: bringing Washington down to our level. It's a stroke of genius, it really is. Once, they would have impeached for stuff like this - Nixon was forced to resign for far less. Now, everybody just shrugs their shoulders and says, so what? They all do it. Let the leftards have their heart attacks. We'll continue making Amerika "great" again. You know what I mean.

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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 11:18am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 10:25am: Extortion - Collusion - Bribery ??? Anyone??? There’s been pages and pages of Biden’s Extortion, Collusion and Bribery and you Leftwing lunatics have remained silent on that Why won’t you address this corruption Lefties??? Accept PHil - he addressed this - He said no one should be allowed to investigate the Biden’s...  :D :D :D Where’d everyone go?  :-/

They can't handle the truth, Mechanic.

The evidence you've provided for Sleepy Joe's corruption has rendered them speechless.

Trump admits to bribery, collusion, obstruction of Justice.

and ex-con Mechanic says there is no evidence.

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 1:05pm:

Trump admits to bribery, collusion, obstruction of Justice.

Yep.  He sure did.


longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 1:05pm:

and ex-con Mechanic says there is no evidence.

Yes.

Perhaps he doesn't understand what "evidence" actually is.

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 12:53pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:18am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 10:25am: Extortion - Collusion - Bribery ??? Anyone??? There’s been pages and pages of Biden’s Extortion, Collusion and Bribery and you Leftwing lunatics have remained silent on that Why won’t you address this corruption Lefties??? Accept PHil - he addressed this - He said no one should be allowed to investigate the Biden’s...  :D :D :D Where’d everyone go?  :-/ They can't handle the truth, Mechanic. The evidence you've provided for Sleepy Joe's corruption has rendered them speechless.

I ain’t finished yet...

In Fact ... I’m only getting started  ;)

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 12:53pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:18am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 10:25am: Extortion - Collusion - Bribery ??? Anyone??? There’s been pages and pages of Biden’s Extortion, Collusion and Bribery and you Leftwing lunatics have remained silent on that Why won’t you address this corruption Lefties??? Accept PHil - he addressed this - He said no one should be allowed to investigate the Biden’s...  :D :D :D Where’d everyone go?  :-/ They can't handle the truth, Mechanic. The evidence you've provided for Sleepy Joe's corruption has rendered them speechless.

Indeed.

Maybe he'll post it again, for those who missed it.

Quote:

Rudy Giuliani: Biden Was Involved in Very, Very Horrible Corruption… There are Documents, Tapes, Money Laundering Former New York City Mayor and Trump Attorney Rudy Giuliani joined Sean Hannity on Monday to discuss the growing Biden Family Ukrainian scandal. Rudy went off on the Biden family calling their money embezzlement schemes one of the biggest American scandals. Rudy said there are documents, tapes and evidence money laundering. Sean Hannity: You didn’t get involved in this on your own. Did our State Department ask you to go on a mission for them? Rudy Giuliani: They did. The State Department called me and asked me if I would take a call from Mr. Yermak. I talked to him. He gave me enormously important facts. I conveyed them all to the State Department unlike the media lies. It was fake news. I wasn’t operating on my own. I have to tell you. I knew this back in November… I told you that Biden was involved in very, very horrible corruption. Shocking to me… It’s disgraceful. I mean Spiro Agnew got thrown out of office for $10,000. This guy was collecting millions and billions. He’s negotiating with China? And the kid gets $1.5 billion? I don’t want to pick on the kid. But you give $1.5 billion to a guy who got thrown out of the military for drug addiction, just a couple days before? You give a drug addict $1.5 billion unless you’re trying to bribe his father. Sean Hannity: No background in private equity. No background in China. No background in Ukraine… Rudy Giuliani: And a seriously disturbed person… This stinks to high heaven. It’s a disgrace. It will be one of the big American scandals when it’s eventually uncovered… They cash in wherever Joe is made the point man. And Sean I told you this was going to happen. It’s going to get much worse. I guarantee it. There’s plenty more evidence. There are documents, there are tapes, there are a completely money laundered transaction… Money laundering is a federal crime. This will be the end of Joe Biden. It’s time for the DOJ to act.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT_5t6e_qP4&t=2s

Uh oh.....  :-/

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 1:39pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 12:53pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:18am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 10:25am: Extortion - Collusion - Bribery ??? Anyone??? There’s been pages and pages of Biden’s Extortion, Collusion and Bribery and you Leftwing lunatics have remained silent on that Why won’t you address this corruption Lefties??? Accept PHil - he addressed this - He said no one should be allowed to investigate the Biden’s...  :D :D :D Where’d everyone go?  :-/ They can't handle the truth, Mechanic. The evidence you've provided for Sleepy Joe's corruption has rendered them speechless. Indeed. Maybe he'll post it again, for those who missed it.

Maybe he's still looking for it.

I'm sure he'll post it again.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 1:38pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 12:53pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:18am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 10:25am: Extortion - Collusion - Bribery ??? Anyone??? There’s been pages and pages of Biden’s Extortion, Collusion and Bribery and you Leftwing lunatics have remained silent on that Why won’t you address this corruption Lefties??? Accept PHil - he addressed this - He said no one should be allowed to investigate the Biden’s...  :D :D :D Where’d everyone go?  :-/ They can't handle the truth, Mechanic. The evidence you've provided for Sleepy Joe's corruption has rendered them speechless. I ain’t finished yet... In Fact ... I’m only getting started  ;)

There's more?

Oh, my. The leftards are going to get into a right kerfuffle with this.

What is it, Mechanic? Does Sleepy Joe have a mistress? Have herpes? Wear a toupe?

Please explain.

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 3:59pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 1:38pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 12:53pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:18am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 10:25am: Extortion - Collusion - Bribery ??? Anyone??? There’s been pages and pages of Biden’s Extortion, Collusion and Bribery and you Leftwing lunatics have remained silent on that Why won’t you address this corruption Lefties??? Accept PHil - he addressed this - He said no one should be allowed to investigate the Biden’s...  :D :D :D Where’d everyone go?  :-/ They can't handle the truth, Mechanic. The evidence you've provided for Sleepy Joe's corruption has rendered them speechless. I ain’t finished yet... In Fact ... I’m only getting started  ;) There's more? Oh, my. The leftards are going to get into a right kerfuffle with this. What is it, Mechanic? Does Sleepy Joe have a mistress? Have herpes? Wear a toupe? Please explain.

Apparently he has an overdue library book, from 1987!   :o

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 9:33am:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 4:50pm: You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level??? ::) ::) ::) YOU don’t get it phill.. Trump hasn’t done anything wrong and all you nutcases are calling for impeachment? For what? Where’s the evidence?? There’s clear evidence that the Biden family are corrupt and have engaged in illegal activity and all you Leftwing Nutjobs don’t want it investigated... What does that say about you lot? You know that the Clintons, Obama’s, Biden’s and DNC are corrupt as hell.... but you just don’t care... As long as your team wins the next election...

Where have I called for impeachment dickhead....I don't give a crap if Biden is investigated by the appropriate authorities in accordance with the law....Best you post this evidence you claim proves Clinton Biden and Obama are corrupt because opinions aren't worth crap....Especially Trump's lawyer!!!

:-? :-? :-?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 10:17am:

Collusion and Bribery? Really  :o :o :o Giuliani said that KangaRooted????? I certainly hope you aren’t LYING 🤥 again Rooted... You’ll have no trouble sharing this “Breaking” evidence with the rest of the forum... no?

Collusion?  Yes, he did.

He admitted to pressuring Ukraine to meddle in the election by investigating Biden.  Even if Biden doesn't win the nomination, unlike Russia, this time there is clear intent.

Now, I've wasted my time getting quotes, verifying sources and posting them to you since you ignore or find a way to claim it's fake news, so instead, I'll just give you this,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV4GEbnC8_Y

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 1:38pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 12:53pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:18am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 10:25am: Extortion - Collusion - Bribery ??? Anyone??? There’s been pages and pages of Biden’s Extortion, Collusion and Bribery and you Leftwing lunatics have remained silent on that Why won’t you address this corruption Lefties??? Accept PHil - he addressed this - He said no one should be allowed to investigate the Biden’s...  :D :D :D Where’d everyone go?  :-/ They can't handle the truth, Mechanic. The evidence you've provided for Sleepy Joe's corruption has rendered them speechless. I ain’t finished yet... In Fact ... I’m only getting started  ;)

It sounds like you're trying to control the narrative.  You know, even without the admission of Trump and Guliani, that they have done this.  The first time around with Russia, Trump and his family were given the benefit of the doubt and there was no indictments because "they didn't know what they were doing".

That's not the case this time, and you know it.

Which is why you're trying to get people to prove adjacent claims and then you'll use their unwillingness to do so, because it's a distraction, to claim there was no collusion, again.  Then you'll try to shift the spotlight to Biden.

It won't work. 

Now, if the Dems won't act on this they're more weak and pathetic than they've already shown themselves to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob7EWtaUL_o

Tell me this Mechanic....Do you think it is appropriate for a President to request a foreign power investigate an American citizen without a warrant or any approval from the Department of Justice....Lets not forget the DOJ applied for and received warrant's to investigate Russian collusion which you claim was a witch hunt....How do you justify Trump approaching a foreign power to investigate a political opponent without any checks or balances or the rule of law???

:-? :-? :-?

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Did Trump Try to Extort Ukraine Into Smearing Joe Biden?  ::)

Er.... NO.



After a day of fevered speculation over which of Donald Trump’s recent foreign interactions triggered an “urgent” whistle-blower complaint from a United States intelligence official, we appear to have an answer. Multiple outlets are now reporting that the mysterious incident involves a “promise” Trump made that relates to Ukraine, where Rudy Giuliani and other allies of the president have urged leaders to reopen an investigation into Joe Biden. The exact details remain murky, but the timeline suggests Trump may have been twisting President Volodymyr Zelensky’s arm by withholding hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid. If it’s true that Trump sought to extort a foreign power in order to harm a Democratic rival, that might be impeachable. Or, at the very least, pretty darn seedy.




Extort occurs three time in the article: in the headline, the first paragraph above and one more time, repeating the above formulation: "If it’s true that Trump sought to extort a foreign power in order to harm a Democratic rival, that might be impeachable. Or, at the very least, pretty darn seedy.







Typically stupid, seedy, dishonest - in a word, Bwianesque.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 3:59pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 1:38pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 12:53pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:18am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 10:25am: Extortion - Collusion - Bribery ??? Anyone??? There’s been pages and pages of Biden’s Extortion, Collusion and Bribery and you Leftwing lunatics have remained silent on that Why won’t you address this corruption Lefties??? Accept PHil - he addressed this - He said no one should be allowed to investigate the Biden’s...  :D :D :D Where’d everyone go?  :-/ They can't handle the truth, Mechanic. The evidence you've provided for Sleepy Joe's corruption has rendered them speechless. I ain’t finished yet... In Fact ... I’m only getting started  ;) There's more? Oh, my. The leftards are going to get into a right kerfuffle with this. What is it, Mechanic? Does Sleepy Joe have a mistress? Have herpes? Wear a toupe? Please explain. Apparently he has an overdue library book, from 1987!   :o

That's illegal, isn't it? Unlike collusion.

Perfectly legal.

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 5:32pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 9:33am: philperth2010 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 4:50pm: You don't get it do you Mechanic....Asking a foreign Government to investigate an American requires a warrant....Imaging what would happen if Presidents where allowed to ask foreign Governments to investigate their opponents or their families without a warrant....This is why they have a justice department and the rule of law that prevents any administration colluding with foreign powers....Trump has admitted to corruption at the highest level??? ::) ::) ::) YOU don’t get it phill.. Trump hasn’t done anything wrong and all you nutcases are calling for impeachment? For what? Where’s the evidence?? There’s clear evidence that the Biden family are corrupt and have engaged in illegal activity and all you Leftwing Nutjobs don’t want it investigated... What does that say about you lot? You know that the Clintons, Obama’s, Biden’s and DNC are corrupt as hell.... but you just don’t care... As long as your team wins the next election... Where have I called for impeachment dickhead....I don't give a crap if Biden is investigated by the appropriate authorities in accordance with the law....Best you post this evidence you claim proves Clinton Biden and Obama are corrupt because opinions aren't worth crap....Especially Trump's lawyer!!! :-? :-? :-?

Now now, Phil, we're all friends here. The Mechanic hasn't even started yet.

You wait until he gets going, you'll see. He'll have the leftards in a right kerfuffle.

Apparently the Mechanic's source has evidence Sleepy Joe's already dead. The Dems just prop up his body in front of a microphone and get John Edwards channelling him from the Other Side.

You can do anything with technology these days.

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 2:44pm: Did Trump Try to Extort Ukraine Into Smearing Joe Biden?  ::) Er.... NO. After a day of fevered speculation over which of Donald Trump’s recent foreign interactions triggered an “urgent” whistle-blower complaint from a United States intelligence official, we appear to have an answer. Multiple outlets are now reporting that the mysterious incident involves a “promise” Trump made that relates to Ukraine, where Rudy Giuliani and other allies of the president have urged leaders to reopen an investigation into Joe Biden. The exact details remain murky, but the timeline suggests Trump may have been twisting President Volodymyr Zelensky’s arm by withholding hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid. If it’s true that Trump sought to extort a foreign power in order to harm a Democratic rival, that might be impeachable. Or, at the very least, pretty darn seedy. Extort occurs three time in the article: in the headline, the first paragraph above and one more time, repeating the above formulation: "If it’s true that Trump sought to extort a foreign power in order to harm a Democratic rival, that might be impeachable. Or, at the very least, pretty darn seedy. Typically stupid, seedy, dishonest - in a word, Bwianesque.

You see? Even the old boy can cut and paste, and he passed over in 2001.

"The Washington Post adds yet another detail to Ukrainegate:

President Trump told his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, to hold back almost $400 million in military aid for Ukraine at least a week before a phone call in which Trump is said to have pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate the son of former vice president Joe Biden, according to three senior administration officials.

….Administration officials were instructed to tell lawmakers that the delays were part of an “interagency process” but to give them no additional information — a pattern that continued for nearly two months, until the White House released the funds on the night of Sept. 11.

In short: as part of an attempt to extort a foreign country, Trump withheld military aid from them and then lied to Congress about why he was doing it.

Mitch McConnell, naturally, was saddened that Democrats were trying to “politicize” the matter."

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/09/the-timeline-tightens-around-trump/?fbclid=IwAR1RKO5S3z-xaUTR-uKANltlFX3hCTyWWCY6-r_UpA97gAWHxywr6HOiO4A

Genius. Mr Trump always did say he'd drain the swamp, A.

What's half a bil, anyway? If Amerika's so-called friends won't even make stuff up about Sleepy Joe, what good are they?

Manafort's now in jail. What a dead weight. That's the last time Mr Trump employs a Ukrainian agent as his campaign chairman.

Anyway, now he's in government, Mr Trump can just pay them in military aid. 400 mil?

Mr Trump can get what's his by selling Manafort's apartment in Trump Tower. Manafort won't be needing it now, eh?

Loser.

Apparently a certain Saudi prince has his eye on it.

Seems that "pay for play" otherwise known as bribery, extortion and favors were common under the Obama administration. Hillary used her foundation and Joe used relatives to launder contributions. Nice! Hillary is looking better with time. "It wasn't just me - that's unfair" says Hillary! After all if your boss at the time, Obama didn't mind - why not make a few extra bucks?

However Donald may be the scapegoat for their corruption. A ritual cleansing of Washington is needed and they have found an innocent - Donald Trump!

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 1:49pm:

Quote: Rudy Giuliani: Biden Was Involved in Very, Very Horrible Corruption… There are Documents, Tapes, Money Laundering Former New York City Mayor and Trump Attorney Rudy Giuliani joined Sean Hannity on Monday to discuss the growing Biden Family Ukrainian scandal. Rudy went off on the Biden family calling their money embezzlement schemes one of the biggest American scandals. Rudy said there are documents, tapes and evidence money laundering. Sean Hannity: You didn’t get involved in this on your own. Did our State Department ask you to go on a mission for them? Rudy Giuliani: They did. The State Department called me and asked me if I would take a call from Mr. Yermak. I talked to him. He gave me enormously important facts. I conveyed them all to the State Department unlike the media lies. It was fake news. I wasn’t operating on my own. I have to tell you. I knew this back in November… I told you that Biden was involved in very, very horrible corruption. Shocking to me… It’s disgraceful. I mean Spiro Agnew got thrown out of office for $10,000. This guy was collecting millions and billions. He’s negotiating with China? And the kid gets $1.5 billion? I don’t want to pick on the kid. But you give $1.5 billion to a guy who got thrown out of the military for drug addiction, just a couple days before? You give a drug addict $1.5 billion unless you’re trying to bribe his father. Sean Hannity: No background in private equity. No background in China. No background in Ukraine… Rudy Giuliani: And a seriously disturbed person… This stinks to high heaven. It’s a disgrace. It will be one of the big American scandals when it’s eventually uncovered… They cash in wherever Joe is made the point man. And Sean I told you this was going to happen. It’s going to get much worse. I guarantee it. There’s plenty more evidence. There are documents, there are tapes, there are a completely money laundered transaction… Money laundering is a federal crime. This will be the end of Joe Biden. It’s time for the DOJ to act. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT_5t6e_qP4&t=2s Uh oh.....  :-/

  This is from a credible Rudi Giuliani on air.

All the documents are on file and we have Joe admitting at a CFR meeting they he in fact did bribe the Ukrainian Gov.

Yet these left wing crazies want to impeach Trump for having nothing to do with this and on some hearsay evidence. How many unsubstantiated charges have been against Trump in the last 3 years? Hundreds?

This is just another unfounded charge by the desperate deep state and their minions. Blame Trump for what you have done.

Pathetic!

Richdude wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 11:32pm:

Seems that "pay for play" otherwise known as bribery, extortion and favors were common under the Obama administration. Hillary used her foundation and Joe used relatives to launder contributions. Nice! Hillary is looking better with time. "It wasn't just me - that's unfair" says Hillary! After all if your boss at the time, Obama didn't mind - why not make a few extra bucks? However Donald may be the scapegoat for their corruption. A ritual cleansing of Washington is needed and they have found an innocent - Donald Trump!

I could not agree more, Rich. The first one who needs to go is Mr Trump's so-called lawyer, who refuses to claim Mr Trump's innocence.

Drain the swamp, no?

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 11:57pm:

Richdude wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:32pm: Seems that "pay for play" otherwise known as bribery, extortion and favors were common under the Obama administration. Hillary used her foundation and Joe used relatives to launder contributions. Nice! Hillary is looking better with time. "It wasn't just me - that's unfair" says Hillary! After all if your boss at the time, Obama didn't mind - why not make a few extra bucks? However Donald may be the scapegoat for their corruption. A ritual cleansing of Washington is needed and they have found an innocent - Donald Trump! I could not agree more, Rich. The first one who needs to go is Mr Trump's so-called lawyer, who refuses to claim Mr Trump's innocence. Drain the swamp, no?

Trump doesn't need to claim he's innocent - that's playing the super aggressive games the Dems play.

Having a conversation with a foreign power is not illegal. Eavesdropping on a President IS!

So lets see this (illegal) conversation!

We know that its OK for a former Dem VP to take a 1.5 billion bribe. You expect that, really acceptable even as he and his audience did - laugh. But a Republican President to be caught .....OMG!

So lets have a little honesty here and work whats really going on.

An unidentified government whistleblower filed a complaint with the Inspector General that President Trump phoned the current Ukrainian President on July 25th to ask his government to investigate the business dealings of Hunter Biden in Ukraine while his father, then-Vice President Biden was overseeing America’s Ukraine policy.

The Fake News has gone into paroxysms over this, with the Washington Post calling it "Trump's Ukraine-gate Extortion". Nancy Pelosi claimed that the phone call was a "threat to National Security" and Hillary Clinton tweeted, "The president asked a foreign power to help him win an election...Again."

Rewind to 2014, Burisma was being investigated for corruption by British and Ukrainian officials when Hunter Biden was placed on Burisma's Board of Directors, despite his having no experience in that industry. Burisma paid Hunter Biden $83,333 per month to hire Obama crony lawyers and crisis managers to advise them on how to get the investigations dropped.

Joe Biden is actually on video at the Council on Foreign Relations bragging about how he threatened to withhold a $1 billion loan to the Ukrainian government if the prosecutor investigating the Burisma case wasn't fired.

The prosecutor was duly fired that very day and the following week, the case against Hunter Biden and George Soros at Burisma was dropped. Hunter Biden was paid a total of almost $3 million before he resigned from Burisma earlier this year.

So, who's the corrupt party here?

George Webb shares his best guess as to the identity of this whistleblower, who he believes is Sue Gordon, a swamp creature if there ever was one, as Webb details with her bio here. Gordon was the Deputy Director of National Intelligence under Dan Coats who Trump passed over to replace him when Coats resigned last August.

Within 24 hours after this story broke, it was partially walked back when CNN reported that an official who was briefed on the matter stated the whistleblower "didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications." Presumably, this was to eliminate any suspicion that Sue Gordon was the source, as she would have had access to the NSA records of the phone call.

The whistleblower complaint may have been as much about harassing Trump as it was about eliminating Biden. On Sunday morning, House Intelligence Committee Co-Chair Devin Nunes opined that Joe Biden's campaign would likely soon come to an end due to the resurfacing of the Burisma story, which he said
"first originated back when Hillary Clinton was trying to make sure Biden didn’t get in the race."

Ah Hillary - what a girl!

Richdud's replies = "But her emails!"

AiA wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 2:27am:

Richdud's replies = "But her emails!"

AiA! Thats a abbreviation for Asshole in Atlanta.

The FBI and DOJ will not investigate Joe's crimes and Trump is certainly right in pursuing bribery in high places.

He has done nothing however Joe has broken the law and should be punished.

How else is he gonna drain the swamp? The US people have to know the character of their Presidential aspirants.

Richdude wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 11:50pm:

This is from a credible Rudi Giuliani on air.

So is this,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha8xylMSg_M

An admission of seeking help from a foreign power to get dirt on a political opponent.  Same with Russia before, that is in direct contravention of Election law (I won't just say "collusion").

Election law prohibits foreign nationals from “directly or indirectly” making “a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election.”

Mueller refused to indict because he couldn't prove intent, claiming that Don Jr was too stupid to know what he was doing was illegal,


Quote:

This series of events [surrounding the June 9 meeting] could implicate the federal election-law ban on contributions and donations by foreign nationals . . . Specifically, Goldstone passed along an offer purportedly from a Russian government official to provide “official documents and information” to the Trump campaign for the purposes of influencing the presidential election. Trump Jr. appears to have accepted that offer and to have arranged a meeting to receive those materials. Documentary evidence in the form of e-mail chains supports the inference that Kushner and Manafort were aware of that purpose and attended the June 9 meeting anticipating the receipt of helpful information to the Campaign from Russian sources. The Office considered whether this evidence would establish a conspiracy to violate the foreign contributions ban . . . solicitation of an illegal foreign-source contribution; or the acceptance or receipt of “an express or implied promise to make a [foreign-source] contribution” . . . There are reasonable arguments that the offered information would constitute a “thing of value” within the meaning of these provisions, but the Office determined that the government would not be likely to obtain and sustain a conviction for two other reasons: first, the Office did not obtain admissible evidence likely to meet the government’s burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that these individuals acted “willfully,” i.e. with general knowledge of the illegality of their conduct; and, second, the government would likely encounter difficulty proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the value of the promised information exceeded the threshold for a criminal violation.

This time they can't hide behind "oh, we didn't know it was a crime" and secondly, and this is the best part, the more Trump and Guliani try to distract away from their actions towards Biden and the information they got, the more "of value" THEY prove the information to be.

Same with the tards on this forum, although they mean nothing when it comes to the case at large.

Remember, if Obama or Clinton would have done this, they'd be impeached already.  The only reasons the Tards aren't calling for Trump to step down is because he's Trump.

This time Trump and his bumbling fool of a lawyer have gone too far.

The problem is, we've seen this before, and it went down like this, so we started at the denial stage, "we didn't do it", now we're at the "okay we did it but it wasn't bad" next it will be "okay it was bad but it wasn't illegal" after that will be "it was illegal but not when Trump does it" next it will be the "we're gonna subpoena you stage" and Trump won't comply again, and lastly the Dems will say "oh well we tried" and Trump will get away with breaking the law, obstructing the investigation into it and his supporters will claim there was no obstruction and no collusion again.

All the time his supporters will keep changing the goalposts as they already have.

Firstly it was "tit didn't happen"


Richdude wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 12:59am:

You haters will believe anything bad about Trump - truth be dammed! Its not that what you believe is wrong that is so disturbing but that you don't care!

Now the, "it did happen, but it's not illegal",


Richdude wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 1:49am:

Having a conversation with a foreign power is not illegal.

It's already begun...  Next it will be "but it was okay it was illegal but not when Trump does it, because Biden", whoops, there already,


Richdude wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 1:49am:

We know that its OK for a former Dem VP to take a 1.5 billion bribe. You expect that, really acceptable even as he and his audience did - laugh. But a Republican President to be caught .....OMG!

Same old same old.

As many have said in this thread alone, this issue was known about 12 months ago, but now that Biden is outpolling Trump, Trump and his team start investigating it?  Getting dirt from Ukraine?

Seems very political to me, not simply "investigating corruption".

This is what happens when you let Trump get away with this sort of thing.  He just keeps escalating until he blatantly breaks the law in front of everyone...

And his supporters still don't care and will change the goalposts just like Rich.

Will this time be any different, will Trump end up being held accountable for breaking the law?

I doubt it.

Richdude wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 11:32pm:

Seems that "pay for play" otherwise known as bribery, extortion and favors were common under the Obama administration. Hillary used her foundation and Joe used relatives to launder contributions. Nice! Hillary is looking better with time. "It wasn't just me - that's unfair" says Hillary! After all if your boss at the time, Obama didn't mind - why not make a few extra bucks? However Donald may be the scapegoat for their corruption. A ritual cleansing of Washington is needed and they have found an innocent - Donald Trump!

They even forced Ukraine to allow American gas explorers into their country to steal their Gas - then - Made the impoverished Ukrainians pay 50% above market price for their own gas.

Could you be a bigger ***T?

Giuliani - "The State Department asked me to go and talk with Ukraine"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT_5t6e_qP4&t=2s

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 7:37am:

Giuliani - "The State Department asked me to go and talk with Ukraine" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT_5t6e_qP4&t=2s

Why would the state department ask Giuliani to do it. He's not a government employee.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 7:37am:

Giuliani - "The State Department asked me to go and talk with Ukraine" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT_5t6e_qP4&t=2s

So why lie at first and say there was no contact?  Then when there was contact, it wasn't about Biden?  Then when it was about Biden, it was about corruption?  Then when it was exposed as trying to force the Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden after Trump stopped the money, it was because the State Department asked Guliani to reach out?

Really?

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 7:42am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 7:37am: Giuliani - "The State Department asked me to go and talk with Ukraine" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT_5t6e_qP4&t=2s So why lie at first and say there was no contact?  Then when there was contact, it wasn't about Biden?  Then when it was about Biden, it was about corruption?  Then when it was exposed as trying to force the Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden after Trump stopped the money, it was because the State Department asked Guliani to reach out? Really?

You absolute lying bastard  >:(

Anyone from this forum can go back to the very first page and see my post (Post #9) and see where I posted a report that says Giuliani was ASKED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT

LYING ***T  >:(

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 7:49am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 7:42am: SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 7:37am: Giuliani - "The State Department asked me to go and talk with Ukraine" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT_5t6e_qP4&t=2s So why lie at first and say there was no contact?  Then when there was contact, it wasn't about Biden?  Then when it was about Biden, it was about corruption?  Then when it was exposed as trying to force the Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden after Trump stopped the money, it was because the State Department asked Guliani to reach out? Really? You absolute lying bastard  >:( Anyone from this forum can go back to the very first page and see my post (Post #9) and see where I posted a report that says Giuliani was ASKED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT LYING ***T  >:(

Not you, you insufferable cock sucker, Trump and Guliani...  I don't care what you say, you're a red-pilled QTard who posts the most far fetched bullshit on a good day, you're just white noise. 

It's been Trump and Guliani who have been changing their story each time they've been exposed as lying.

As for Guliani's claim about being asked, it seems just as far fetched as so many of the other lies he's told, but that said, I'll wait for the State Department to comment on it, if they're even allowed, which I suspect they won't be, hence why Guliani made the claim in the first place.

Yep, KangaRooted just got caught out lying again and got his arse handed to him... again 😂

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 10:06am:

Yep, KangaRooted just got caught out lying again and got his arse handed to him... again 😂

Please...

You're both, or you, can never tell, are just trying to deflect from the trouble Trump is in.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 7:35am:

Richdude wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:32pm: Seems that "pay for play" otherwise known as bribery, extortion and favors were common under the Obama administration. Hillary used her foundation and Joe used relatives to launder contributions. Nice! Hillary is looking better with time. "It wasn't just me - that's unfair" says Hillary! After all if your boss at the time, Obama didn't mind - why not make a few extra bucks? However Donald may be the scapegoat for their corruption. A ritual cleansing of Washington is needed and they have found an innocent - Donald Trump! They even forced Ukraine to allow American gas explorers into their country to steal their Gas - then - Made the impoverished Ukrainians pay 50% above market price for their own gas. Could you be a bigger ***T?

Wow!

You don't understand sarcasm?

Richdude wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 12:56pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 7:35am: Richdude wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:32pm: Seems that "pay for play" otherwise known as bribery, extortion and favors were common under the Obama administration. Hillary used her foundation and Joe used relatives to launder contributions. Nice! Hillary is looking better with time. "It wasn't just me - that's unfair" says Hillary! After all if your boss at the time, Obama didn't mind - why not make a few extra bucks? However Donald may be the scapegoat for their corruption. A ritual cleansing of Washington is needed and they have found an innocent - Donald Trump! They even forced Ukraine to allow American gas explorers into their country to steal their Gas - then - Made the impoverished Ukrainians pay 50% above market price for their own gas. Could you be a bigger ***T? Wow! You don't understand sarcasm?

trumptard BITCH-FIGHT!!!!

Richdude wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 12:56pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 7:35am: Richdude wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:32pm: Seems that "pay for play" otherwise known as bribery, extortion and favors were common under the Obama administration. Hillary used her foundation and Joe used relatives to launder contributions. Nice! Hillary is looking better with time. "It wasn't just me - that's unfair" says Hillary! After all if your boss at the time, Obama didn't mind - why not make a few extra bucks? However Donald may be the scapegoat for their corruption. A ritual cleansing of Washington is needed and they have found an innocent - Donald Trump! They even forced Ukraine to allow American gas explorers into their country to steal their Gas - then - Made the impoverished Ukrainians pay 50% above market price for their own gas. Could you be a bigger ***T? Wow! You don't understand sarcasm?

My Sincerest apologies Master Richdude.

I can type at around 35 to 40 words a minute and when I'm in a hurry I don't spell check so sometimes the computer will change my words if I do a typo.

the sentence - Could you be a bigger ***T?

should have been.

Could They be a bigger ***T

Sorry again  :)

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 6:27pm:

Richdude wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 12:56pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 7:35am: Richdude wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:32pm: Seems that "pay for play" otherwise known as bribery, extortion and favors were common under the Obama administration. Hillary used her foundation and Joe used relatives to launder contributions. Nice! Hillary is looking better with time. "It wasn't just me - that's unfair" says Hillary! After all if your boss at the time, Obama didn't mind - why not make a few extra bucks? However Donald may be the scapegoat for their corruption. A ritual cleansing of Washington is needed and they have found an innocent - Donald Trump! They even forced Ukraine to allow American gas explorers into their country to steal their Gas - then - Made the impoverished Ukrainians pay 50% above market price for their own gas. Could you be a bigger ***T? Wow! You don't understand sarcasm? My Sincerest apologies Master Richdude. I can type at around 35 to 40 words a minute and when I'm in a hurry I don't spell check so sometimes the computer will change my words if I do a typo. the sentence - Could you be a bigger ***T? should have been. Could They be a bigger ***T Sorry again  :)

you are such a moron

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 6:27pm:

Richdude wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 12:56pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 7:35am: Richdude wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:32pm: Seems that "pay for play" otherwise known as bribery, extortion and favors were common under the Obama administration. Hillary used her foundation and Joe used relatives to launder contributions. Nice! Hillary is looking better with time. "It wasn't just me - that's unfair" says Hillary! After all if your boss at the time, Obama didn't mind - why not make a few extra bucks? However Donald may be the scapegoat for their corruption. A ritual cleansing of Washington is needed and they have found an innocent - Donald Trump! They even forced Ukraine to allow American gas explorers into their country to steal their Gas - then - Made the impoverished Ukrainians pay 50% above market price for their own gas. Could you be a bigger ***T? Wow! You don't understand sarcasm? My Sincerest apologies Master Richdude. I can type at around 35 to 40 words a minute and when I'm in a hurry I don't spell check so sometimes the computer will change my words if I do a typo. the sentence - Could you be a bigger ***T? should have been. Could They be a bigger ***T Sorry again  :)

An easy mistake to make, Mechanic. Spellcheck's corrected ***T as well.

Richdude wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 1:49am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:57pm: Richdude wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:32pm: Seems that "pay for play" otherwise known as bribery, extortion and favors were common under the Obama administration. Hillary used her foundation and Joe used relatives to launder contributions. Nice! Hillary is looking better with time. "It wasn't just me - that's unfair" says Hillary! After all if your boss at the time, Obama didn't mind - why not make a few extra bucks? However Donald may be the scapegoat for their corruption. A ritual cleansing of Washington is needed and they have found an innocent - Donald Trump! I could not agree more, Rich. The first one who needs to go is Mr Trump's so-called lawyer, who refuses to claim Mr Trump's innocence. Drain the swamp, no? Trump doesn't need to claim he's innocent - that's playing the super aggressive games the Dems play. Having a conversation with a foreign power is not illegal. Eavesdropping on a President IS! So lets see this (illegal) conversation! We know that its OK for a former Dem VP to take a 1.5 billion bribe. You expect that, really acceptable even as he and his audience did - laugh. But a Republican President to be caught .....OMG!

Oh, so Biden took a 1.5 bil bribe. I didn't know that, Rich.

That settles that then. What did he do with it?

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 6:27pm:

Richdude wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 12:56pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 7:35am: Richdude wrote on Sep 24th, 2019 at 11:32pm: Seems that "pay for play" otherwise known as bribery, extortion and favors were common under the Obama administration. Hillary used her foundation and Joe used relatives to launder contributions. Nice! Hillary is looking better with time. "It wasn't just me - that's unfair" says Hillary! After all if your boss at the time, Obama didn't mind - why not make a few extra bucks? However Donald may be the scapegoat for their corruption. A ritual cleansing of Washington is needed and they have found an innocent - Donald Trump! They even forced Ukraine to allow American gas explorers into their country to steal their Gas - then - Made the impoverished Ukrainians pay 50% above market price for their own gas. Could you be a bigger ***T? Wow! You don't understand sarcasm? My Sincerest apologies Master Richdude. I can type at around 35 to 40 words a minute and when I'm in a hurry I don't spell check so sometimes the computer will change my words if I do a typo. the sentence - Could you be a bigger ***T? should have been. Could They be a bigger ***T Sorry again  :)

It takes a strong character to admit making mistakes. That there is something greater than our own petty egos - the truth. Well said Serial.

Apology accepted!

What we have to remember is that the Biden story is a long debunked conspiracy theory which in a way helps Trump, but not in the way his supporters think.

They're using it as a distraction to take the focus off Trump's actions with Ukraine and onto Biden, but it's not working because, well, debunked conspiracy theory.

The way it might help Trump is similar to how he was able to escape accountability for what people call "colluding" with Russia.

If you'll remember, it was shown that Trump and his team did in fact collude with Russia but charges/indictments could not be laid as it would have required clear intent (which they were deemed to have unknowingly committed the crime) and the information they got was "of value".

This time there is no pleading ignorance especially after Trump's admission since Mueller about getting dirt from foreign powers being ok with him and "who calls the FBI", but the "of value", the more Trump and his team push the spotlight on Biden, the more "of value" the information that was extorted from Ukraine seems to have.

Back to the point, considering it's a debunked conspiracy theory, does that then make it or lesser value? Or no value?

Or that the reaction of his supporters thinking that it's true because they're that gullible swing it back over to being something of value?

Interesting times ahead.  It seems the conspiratards within the ranks of the Trumptards, so like, all of them, might actually be hurting Trump by going all in against Biden over this debunked conspiracy.

Oh the hilarity...