Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face.

Well, I tried ...

Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement

https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c

I watched John Wick 3 some time back. The 'female' antagonist of the movie was one of those "attention seeker" genders who did not want to give a gender. She prefers to be called a "they".

AiA wrote on Sep 13^th, 2019 at 11:35pm:

Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c

"They" & "them" are plurals.

It is a singular individual ... not a group.

Just bullshyte.

FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead.

Gnads wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

AiA wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 11:35pm: Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c "They" & "them" are plurals. It is a singular individual ... not a group. Just bullshyte. FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead.

of course thats correct   its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more...and now people are being corrected to say the complete opposite.... ::) ::) and its pandering once again to a minority group .. who have to prove nothing  just dress as a women....whatever that is.... >:(

its dumbfounding and more fool us for falling for it...

if they have an operation   I will go along with them leading a life looking like  and being regarded as  a female....

but if you want a foot in both camps... forget it!

No worries, call it, him, they, thur whatever it likes, as long as there is no legal compulsion to do so and no backlash if someone chooses not to.

Gordon wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:18am:

No worries, call it, him, they, thur whatever it likes, as long as there is no legal compulsion to do so and no backlash if someone chooses not to.

you dont mind being corrected then gordy?...

;) ;)

cods wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 10:18am: No worries, call it, him, they, thur whatever it likes, as long as there is no legal compulsion to do so and no backlash if someone chooses not to. you dont mind being corrected then gordy?... ;) ;)

On a one to one level, I'm happy to call a person what makes them happy, so long as I'm not legally compelled to.

If he has a C@ck between his legs then he is a man and a he.

Everything else is between the ears.

I mean I'm a sultan with a harem, until the boss slaps the back of my neck......LOL....... :o

Ajax wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 12:44pm:

If he has a C@ck between his legs then he is a man and a he. Everything else is between the ears. I mean I'm a sultan with a harem, until the boss slaps the back of my neck......LOL....... :o

Do you check? If you don't check you might get it wrong.

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 1:00pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 12:44pm: If he has a C@ck between his legs then he is a man and a he. Everything else is between the ears. I mean I'm a sultan with a harem, until the boss slaps the back of my neck......LOL....... :o Do you check? If you don't check you might get it wrong. Spot

Either way it doesn't matter.

Is a eunuch a man or a woman.....?

I prefer to call them freaks.

Far more descriptive.

2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

It's all been predicted 2019 years ago.

Here is the record holder - but apparently the personalities were all under control of her inner true self:-

"A woman who developed more than 2500 personalities to cope with monstrous sexual abuse at the hands of her father said alter egos are “finally free” after he was jailed for 45 years. .......

.........Ms Haynes told 60 Minutes she’s now told all of her personalities, which she developed to cope with years of abuse, to “stand down”.

It Could WORK!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4An1BrG2u_4

I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining...

Gordon wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:18am:

No worries, call it, him, they, thur whatever it likes, as long as there is no legal compulsion to do so and no backlash if someone chooses not to.

The Canadians have already done that..... the idiots.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:22am:

I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining...

No one is losing their mind .... more commenting on the lack of cognition of those that do "entertain" this nonsense.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:22am:

I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining...

Waaaaah! i want to judge ppl and be a bigot!

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:35am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 10:22am: I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining... Waaaaah! i want to judge ppl and be a bigot! Spot

You didn't just write that bs?  ::)

Objecting to demands of and or making it a legal requirement to use certain language/pronouns for people with head issues is bigotry? 

;D ridiculous

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that I have no skin in the game.  I don't want to belittle what some of these people have to go through but seeing how a certain section of the community sees this as such an important issue to oppose is what is entertaining.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:42am:

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that I have no skin in the game.  I don't want to belittle what some of these people have to go through but seeing how a certain section of the community sees this as such an important issue to oppose is what is entertaining.

When the intent is to have such demands/wants written into legislation like they have in Canada then it is a very important issue to oppose.

People can wish all they want but they have no right to demand or expect people to conform to language that is contrary to what the majority use.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:42am:

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that I have no skin in the game.  I don't want to belittle what some of these people have to go through but seeing how a certain section of the community sees this as such an important issue to oppose is what is entertaining.

Do you agree/disagree with what I said on it, in Reply #4?

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:46am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 10:42am: Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that I have no skin in the game.  I don't want to belittle what some of these people have to go through but seeing how a certain section of the community sees this as such an important issue to oppose is what is entertaining. When the intent is to have such demands/wants written into legislation like they have in Canada then it is a very important issue to oppose. People can wish all they want but they have no right to demand or expect people to conform to language that is contrary to what the majority use.

If someone has legally changed their sex and all their official documentation reflects that I'm ok calling them whatever they want.

But to legislate anything more than that would be a mistake.

A good friend of mine was going through his transition to a woman.  He had lots of surgery and from all outward appearances looked like a woman.  He had the final surgery booked, had investigated what it would take to legally change his gender etc, but almost at the 11th hour changes his mind and is having the implants removed and is now a "boy" again.

He has had to go through an incredible amount of torment all his life and I won't judge any of his choices, he was always very chill about the pronoun game, but his story is only his story.  I can't claim to understand what anyone else has gone through and if it helps them be called the pronoun they need then I'm ok with that.

It's just like holding a door open for someone or slowing down to let someone merge in.

But I agree if that was going to be legislated I could only support that if someone had legally changed their gender, especially if it was done in this country as there are lots of psychiatric obstacles to overcome first, it's not a daily whim sort of thing.

I suspect many of the people who take issue with this sort of thing in general, not so much from the legislative point of view would be the type who wouldn't slow down for someone to help them merge and instead just rest on their horn and post the dashcam footage online thinking they've hit gold when they've exposed what a prick they are.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:56am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 10:46am: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 10:42am: Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that I have no skin in the game.  I don't want to belittle what some of these people have to go through but seeing how a certain section of the community sees this as such an important issue to oppose is what is entertaining. When the intent is to have such demands/wants written into legislation like they have in Canada then it is a very important issue to oppose. People can wish all they want but they have no right to demand or expect people to conform to language that is contrary to what the majority use. If someone has legally changed their sex and all their official documentation reflects that I'm ok calling them whatever they want. But to legislate anything more than that would be a mistake. A good friend of mine was going through his transition to a woman.  He had lots of surgery and from all outward appearances looked like a woman.  He had the final surgery booked, had investigated what it would take to legally change his gender etc, but almost at the 11th hour changes his mind and is having the implants removed and is now a "boy" again. He has had to go through an incredible amount of torment all his life and I won't judge any of his choices, he was always very chill about the pronoun game, but his story is only his story.  I can't claim to understand what anyone else has gone through and if it helps them be called the pronoun they need then I'm ok with that. It's just like holding a door open for someone or slowing down to let someone merge in. But I agree if that was going to be legislated I could only support that if someone had legally changed their gender, especially if it was done in this country as there are lots of psychiatric obstacles to overcome first, it's not a daily whim sort of thing. I suspect many of the people who take issue with this sort of thing in general, not so much from the legislative point of view would be the type who wouldn't slow down for someone to help them merge and instead just rest on their horn and post the dashcam footage online thinking they've hit gold when they've exposed what a prick they are.

It has nothing to do with sex changing ... legally or not ....

it is totally about the use of language  .... and forcing people to use that language upon threat of punitive legal action.

IMHO cutting off your bollocks or sewing up & reshaping a clitoris doesn't change the gender you were born ...... DNA doesn't change.

And it's OK to say "if that's what they want then you will oblige" ....

If after a lifetime of using pronouns in their intended context ... you forget ...

will they accept your error? ...or will they as many have proven .... go off on a tirade claiming disrespect, discrimination, bigotry or transphobia? etc etc.

cods wrote on Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 7:46am: AiA wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 11:35pm: Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c "They" & "them" are plurals. It is a singular individual ... not a group. Just bullshyte. FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead. of course thats correct   its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more...

Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries.

Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 10:22am:

I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining...

I love how this makes gender benders lose their mind when I address them for their biological form.

You're a bloke....deal with it or find a rope.

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:17am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 10:22am: I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining... I love how this makes gender benders lose their mind when I address them for their biological form. You're a bloke....deal with it or find a rope.

What a good person you turned out to be.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 10:15am: Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 7:46am: AiA wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 11:35pm: Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c "They" & "them" are plurals. It is a singular individual ... not a group. Just bullshyte. FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead. of course thats correct   its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more... Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun.

In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral".

The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure.

Else the common use would have been "he" & "she".

Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:24am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:17am: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 10:22am: I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining... I love how this makes gender benders lose their mind when I address them for their biological form. You're a bloke....deal with it or find a rope. What a good person you turned out to be.

You too!  ;)


The old "I can but you cant"

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:08am: cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 10:15am: Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 7:46am: AiA wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 11:35pm: Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c "They" & "them" are plurals. It is a singular individual ... not a group. Just bullshyte. FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead. of course thats correct   its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more... Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun. In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral". The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure. Else the common use would have been "he" & "she". Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes.

Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'.

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:24am: Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:17am: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 10:22am: I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining... I love how this makes gender benders lose their mind when I address them for their biological form. You're a bloke....deal with it or find a rope. What a good person you turned out to be. You too!  ;) The old "I can but you cant"

If you don't like it, kill yourself :)

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:39am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25am: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:24am: Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:17am: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 10:22am: I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining... I love how this makes gender benders lose their mind when I address them for their biological form. You're a bloke....deal with it or find a rope. What a good person you turned out to be. You too!  ;) The old "I can but you cant" If you don't like it, kill yourself :)

It doesn't bother me what the alphabets want to be known as, so I guess your post refers to anyone else who may be losing their mind.


Interesting how you get entertainment out of the same thing....but different because your entertainment comes from outside the minority circle, yet are critical of me.  ;)
Well done.

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:50am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:39am: Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25am: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:24am: Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:17am: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 10:22am: I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining... I love how this makes gender benders lose their mind when I address them for their biological form. You're a bloke....deal with it or find a rope. What a good person you turned out to be. You too!  ;) The old "I can but you cant" If you don't like it, kill yourself :) It doesn't bother me what the alphabets want to be known as, so I guess your post refers to anyone else who may be losing their mind. Interesting how you get entertainment out of the same thing....but different because your entertainment comes from outside the minority circle, yet are critical of me.  ;) Well done.

Nobody is perfect.

Those unhappy with the notion of legislative changes, I'm with you there, but those having a whinge about what others want to be called, it is entertaining that these people who are the same crowd who make fun of safe spaces etc are being such snowflakes.

If it cant decide what it is then its "it", only way to avoid confusion.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25am: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:08am: cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 10:15am: Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 7:46am: AiA wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 11:35pm: Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c "They" & "them" are plurals. It is a singular individual ... not a group. Just bullshyte. FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead. of course thats correct   its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more... Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun. In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral". The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure. Else the common use would have been "he" & "she". Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'.

So?

That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 12:17pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:50am: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:39am: Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25am: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:24am: Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:17am: SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 10:22am: I love how this makes some people lose their minds, quite entertaining... I love how this makes gender benders lose their mind when I address them for their biological form. You're a bloke....deal with it or find a rope. What a good person you turned out to be. You too!  ;) The old "I can but you cant" If you don't like it, kill yourself :) It doesn't bother me what the alphabets want to be known as, so I guess your post refers to anyone else who may be losing their mind. Interesting how you get entertainment out of the same thing....but different because your entertainment comes from outside the minority circle, yet are critical of me.  ;) Well done. Nobody is perfect. Those unhappy with the notion of legislative changes, I'm with you there, but those having a whinge about what others want to be called, it is entertaining that these people who are the same crowd who make fun of safe spaces etc are being such snowflakes.

 
;D really? Snowflakes are the needy for such spaces.

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:32am: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25am: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:08am: cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 10:15am: Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 7:46am: AiA wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 11:35pm: Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c "They" & "them" are plurals. It is a singular individual ... not a group. Just bullshyte. FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead. of course thats correct   its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more... Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun. In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral". The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure. Else the common use would have been "he" & "she". Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'. So?

So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed).

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:32am: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25am: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:08am: cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 10:15am: Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 7:46am: AiA wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 11:35pm: Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c "They" & "them" are plurals. It is a singular individual ... not a group. Just bullshyte. FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead. of course thats correct   its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more... Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun. In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral". The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure. Else the common use would have been "he" & "she". Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'. So? So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed).

That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else. ::)

Gnads wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:13pm: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:32am: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25am: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:08am: cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 10:15am: Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 7:46am: AiA wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 11:35pm: Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c "They" & "them" are plurals. It is a singular individual ... not a group. Just bullshyte. FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead. of course thats correct   its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more... Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun. In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral". The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure. Else the common use would have been "he" & "she". Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'. So? So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed). That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else. ::)

Who said it wasn't?

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:33pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:13pm: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:32am: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25am: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:08am: cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 10:15am: Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 7:46am: AiA wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 11:35pm: Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c "They" & "them" are plurals. It is a singular individual ... not a group. Just bullshyte. FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead. of course thats correct   its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more... Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun. In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral". The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure. Else the common use would have been "he" & "she". Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'. So? So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed). That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else. ::) Who said it wasn't?

They did

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 3:06pm: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:33pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:13pm: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:32am: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25am: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:08am: cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 10:15am: Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 7:46am: AiA wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 11:35pm: Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c "They" & "them" are plurals. It is a singular individual ... not a group. Just bullshyte. FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead. of course thats correct   its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more... Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun. In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral". The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure. Else the common use would have been "he" & "she". Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'. So? So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed). That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else. ::) Who said it wasn't? They did Spot

Yes.

Not me, that's for sure.

I'm just pointing out that 'they' has been used as a singular pronoun since at least the 1300s.

It's NOT always a plural.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2019 at 3:09pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 3:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 3:06pm: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:33pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:13pm: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 2:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:32am: Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:25am: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2019 at 11:08am: cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 10:15am: Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2019 at 7:46am: AiA wrote on Sep 13th, 2019 at 11:35pm: Weeks back I was with a client who was born as a man but dressed as a woman (no idea about the state of his genitalia). He clearly identified as a woman and I am fine with that and so made an effort to watch my words. Everything went smoothly. Later I slipped up and addressed him as "sir" and I could see the startled look on his face. Well, I tried ... Sam Smith Asks To Be Referred To As ‘They’ Not ‘He’ After Non-Binary Announcement https://www.unilad.co.uk/celebrity/sam-smith-asks-to-be-referred-to-as-they-not-he-after-non-binary-announcement/?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR11KOmITwNdc5ITfzshXpNqGqCxj_h0HLv_YCHiHr5iGY2CsdeK1XJZ3_c "They" & "them" are plurals. It is a singular individual ... not a group. Just bullshyte. FITH   ..... F ucked I n T he H ead. of course thats correct   its been taught in schools for many generations. They means two or more... Actually, 'they' is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s 'they' has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun. In the 1300's they only dealt with male & female ... there was no such animal as "gender neutral". The use of "they' .... singularly ...would refer to either one or the other as a person/individual if the sex was unsure. Else the common use would have been "he" & "she". Languages like French, Italian & Spanish have more gender applied/male & female denoting prefixes for the same word .... mon, ma, mes. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other writers used singular 'they'. So? So, it's not always used as a plural (as some have mistakenly claimed). That's surely in reference to a 3rd party when speaking about "them" to someone else. ::) Who said it wasn't? They did Spot Yes. Not me, that's for sure. I'm just pointing out that 'they' has been used as a singular pronoun since at least the 1300s. It's NOT always a plural.

I used to hang in a chatroom online and you coudlnt tell what gender someone was by their name usually (like here sometimes) so a few of us just used "they". In this internet age its more handy than ever and doesnt have to have anything to do with trans.

Spot

Spot

The mentally ill minority want to be referred to with some stupid names or weird labels.

Then they get all pissed off when a normal human don't know what to call them.

Screw them, if they are male, they is a he.

If they are female, they is a she

If they dress up like some idiot, they are freaks.

Get used to it people.

So the Man thinks that 'acting and dressing' like a Woman - justifies him to be 'treated as a woman'.
That even having a 'fabricated' female enhancement via Medical procedures - earns 'him' the right to be Medically 'certified' as a Female.

And now 'they' (inclusion of both female & male... versions) consider themselves (no need to ask 'the normal' people what 'they' think) as 'They' (Group).

They sent me down into the Cold Room, where the bodies are kept. It was my first time in a filled Cold Room. I was told to accompany an EN who was a transexual (and partnered to a male Security Guard) to make some more room for another body to be brought down in an hour. The only thing that annoyed me more that I was purposely being set up to 'put up a stink' about him being a Transexual into a her, was the sublime smell in the Cold Room that almost sucks the moisture out of one's throat when breathing. I didn't treat 'him' as a female. 'I' didn't see him that way, regardless if he thought that I should see him the way he wanted me to see him. At the most, he was just an 'actor' trying to be a woman/female - living a life of 'pretend'.

I don't think the World will ever fully accept such things as 'Normal' as it's more like a handicap of the 'para' normal, at the most. It's just another 'Sexual Dysfunction' of many out there, which can render the person so confused they don't know 'what' they are? Homosexuality is in that group of Sexual Handicap, that is in there with such things as Animal Sex, Paedophilia, Rape, Masturbation, Adultery and all the Sexual Flaws of what Sex is really for (It's really quite 'simple' - anyone should be able to do it.).

The odd one out is the NON-Sexual. You do or you don't, but somewhere down there are all the ones that couldn't make that choice and tried to make excuses for their failures in regards to the many sexual dysfunctions that are no different in their manifestations as that of Financial Foolishness and Failure.

So I just did my 'job' and really couldn't give a flying f*uck in regards to 'who' he was. To me, he was an example of where the Medical Industry was going wrong.