I read somewhere, can’t remember which board let alone thread, that you said you turned Muslim because you found the concept of the holy trinity absurd.

All religion is absurd! They all preach of people in the sky promising eternal life or whatever nonsense.

So, why did you not just go atheist?

I know this is personal but you did say why you gave away christianity (could have become a Unitarian, LOL.)

Don't you have your own forum to go to drunk?

Its a fair question.

Probably because its the religion of peace and the most  feminist religion.

Johnnie wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2019 at 4:23pm:

Probably because its the religion of peace and the most  feminist religion.

It is because the 'sense of community' ['belonging' together] is strong.

That is my guess.




But ISLAM does seem to strongly attract a certain personality type though.





Jovial Monk,      i can't see gandalf giving you/us any satisfactory reason why.

And he has committed himself to ISLAM, now.

And therefore, the original reason he did, is of no real consequence [to gandalf], now.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2019 at 2:31pm:

I read somewhere, can’t remember which board let alone thread, that you said you turned Muslim because you found the concept of the holy trinity absurd. All religion is absurd! They all preach of people in the sky promising eternal life or whatever nonsense. So, why did you not just go atheist? I know this is personal but you did say why you gave away christianity (could have become a Unitarian, LOL.)

Saying all religion is absurd is a bit of a cop out. As an atheist I define religion as nothing more than a set of ideas, rules and customs. Therefore, each religion must be judged on it's merits and very importantly, how it's practiced in real life.

Islam is the last of the  Abrahamic religions and it included things that would ensure it grew faster and prevented people leaving the religion.

Also of the 3, Islam is the most life encompassing.

So the question is, why would someone from a modern democratic country choose a set of rules and customs devised in the bronze age and set in stone with tripwires that prevent it from ever modernising ?

Trinity explained

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=GrhnWUsO6BgC&pg=PA43&lpg=PA43&dq=father+quixote+trinity+explained&source=bl&ots=SFrOYL-7SX&sig=ACfU3U1IvF4LjIPtRZGRixghyn9SbmiM8w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwizyv-CupjkAhUHXisKHYfrDCAQ6AEwHHoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=father%20quixote%20trinity%20explained&f=false

He shopped around for a religion that allows men to dominate any women that come into their lives. Gandalf has a need to dominate and to feel he is above people of infidel status. It's not surprising he chose Islam, it gave him permission to feel superior. He claims to be a moderate polite muslim but he views the deaths of innocent people killed by muslims as just statistics, without being apologetic for his cold muslim heart

So many people called Gandalf.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2019 at 6:10pm:

So many people called Gandalf.

If you didn't want an open discussion you should have PMd him.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2019 at 6:10pm:

So many people called Gandalf.

JM,

Trust me, gandalf will not reply to any Q. which he    deems    to be either 'inappropriate' or an insult to ISLAM.

Why do you think, that he has changed his 'handle', from gandalf to, polite_gandalf.

Yes, gandalf is indeed a polite fellow.

But, he is still a follower of ISLAM.

[i.e.    polite_gandalf     IS NOT     prepared to speak frankly, about mainstream ISLAM, and about what mainstream ISLAM promotes in the world.]



JM,

You are damned fortunate, to have all of us, imagining what gandalf's response would/could have been, for you !!!        :P         ;D

Gordon wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2019 at 5:18pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 2:31pm: I read somewhere, can’t remember which board let alone thread, that you said you turned Muslim because you found the concept of the holy trinity absurd. All religion is absurd! They all preach of people in the sky promising eternal life or whatever nonsense. So, why did you not just go atheist? I know this is personal but you did say why you gave away christianity (could have become a Unitarian, LOL.) Saying all religion is absurd is a bit of a cop out. As an atheist I define religion as nothing more than a set of ideas, rules and customs. Therefore, each religion must be judged on it's merits and very importantly, how it's practiced in real life.

Quite so.

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2019 at 5:41pm:

He shopped around for a religion that allows men to dominate any women that come into their lives. Gandalf has a need to dominate and to feel he is above people of infidel status. It's not surprising he chose Islam, it gave him permission to feel superior. He claims to be a moderate polite muslim but he views the deaths of innocent people killed by muslims as just statistics, without being apologetic for his cold muslim heart

G is superior, Bias.

You?

Looking at the spiritual side of things, gandi put himself between a rock and a hard place

islam is based on blasphemy of the Holy Spirit the Messiah and the Trinity.

Judeo / Christian belief is, sins can be pardoned, if men earnestly repent and seek it.

There is one single sin only, which can never be forgiven.

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

So spiritually speaking gandi knowingly committed the one sin that can never be pardoned.

His quandary is, what does he do now, keep lying to himself and others that islam is perfection for his soul, admit it's 7th century depravity knowing that he shut the door behind himself?

Oh well the world will keep on turning, it will all play out in the end. 

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2019 at 11:46pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 5:18pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 2:31pm: I read somewhere, can’t remember which board let alone thread, that you said you turned Muslim because you found the concept of the holy trinity absurd. All religion is absurd! They all preach of people in the sky promising eternal life or whatever nonsense. So, why did you not just go atheist? I know this is personal but you did say why you gave away christianity (could have become a Unitarian, LOL.) Saying all religion is absurd is a bit of a cop out. As an atheist I define religion as nothing more than a set of ideas, rules and customs. Therefore, each religion must be judged on it's merits and very importantly, how it's practiced in real life. Quite so.

It's practiced with Allahu Akhbar followed by violent jihad.  Islamic piety in action.

https://twitter.com/W_Alhusseini/status/1163925074266771456

Islam is going through it's holy inquisition stage.

It will need a reformation as happened in the Christian church so that it becomes updated & modern.

Grandalf works in mysterious and polite ways.

Johnnie wrote on Aug 24^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Grandalf works in mysterious and polite ways.

Yes, gandalf does.

Yadda wrote on Aug 24^th, 2019 at 9:06pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 24th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Grandalf works in mysterious and polite ways. Yes, gandalf does.

Sometimes not so polite though.

The Prophet said, "Allah likes sneezing and dislikes yawning, so if someone sneezes and then praises Allah, then it is obligatory on every Muslim who heard him, to say: May Allah be merciful to you (Yar-hamuka-l-lah). But as regards yawning, it is from Satan, so one must try one's best to stop it, if one says 'Ha' when yawning, Satan will laugh at him." Volume 8, Book 73, Number 242: Narrated Abu Huraira: See also Volume 8, Book 73, Number 245:, Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "A good dream is from Allah, and a bad or evil dream is from Satan; so if anyone of you has a bad dream of which he gets afraid, he should spit on his left side and should seek Refuge with Allah from its evil, for then it will not harm him." Volume 4, Book 54, Number 513: Narrated Abu Qatada:ï'

The Prophet said, "If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out thrice, because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night." Volume 4, Book 54, Number 516: Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "When you hear the crowing of cocks, ask for Allah's Blessings for (their crowing indicates that) they have seen an angel. And when you hear the braying of donkeys, seek Refuge with Allah from Satan for (their braying indicates) that they have seen a Satan." Volume 4, Book 54, Number 522: Narrated Abu Huraira:

"I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'There is none born among the off-spring of Adam, but Satan touches it. A child therefore, cries loudly at the time of birth because of the touch of Satan, except Mary and her child." Then Abu Huraira recited: "And I seek refuge with You for her and for her offspring from the outcast Satan" (3.36)  Volume 4, Book 55, Number 641:Narrated Said bin Al-

Allah's Apostle said, When night falls (or when it is evening), stop your children from going out, for the devils spread out at that time. But when an hour of the night has passed, release them and close the doors and mention Allah's Name, for Satan does not open a closed door. Tie the mouth of your water-skin and mention Allah's Name; cover your containers and utensils and mention Allah's Name. Cover them even by placing something across it, and extinguish your lamps." Volume 7, Book 69, Number 527: Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah

The Prophet said, "If anyone of you, when intending to have a sexual intercourse with his wife, says: 'Bismillah, Allahumma jannibna-sh-shaitan, wa jannibi-sh-shaitan ma razaqtana,' and if the couple are destined to have a child (out of that very sexual relation), then Satan will never be able to harm that child." Volume 8, Book 75, Number 397: Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:

Allah's Apostle said, "During your sleep, Satan knots three knots at the back of the head of each of you, and he breathes the following words at each knot, 'The night is long, so keep on sleeping,' If that person wakes up and celebrates the praises of Allah, then one knot is undone, and when he performs ablution the second knot is undone, and when he prays, all the knots are undone, and he gets up in the morning lively and gay, otherwise he gets up dull and gloomy."  Volume 4, Book 54, Number 491: Narrated Abu Huraira:

It was mentioned before the Prophet that there was a man who slept the night till morning (after sunrise). The Prophet said, "He is a man in whose ears (or ear) Satan had urinated."  Volume 4, Book 54, Number 492: Narrated 'Abdullah:ï'

The Prophet said, "Name yourselves with my name (use my name) but do not name yourselves with my Kunya name (i.e. Abu-l Qasim). And whoever sees me in a dream then surely he has seen me for Satan cannot impersonate me. And whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally), then (surely) let him occupy his seat in Hell-fire." Volume 1, Book 3, Number 110: Narrated Abu Huraira:

(The Prophet) said, "O Allah! Bless our Sham and our Yemen." People said, "Our Najd as well." The Prophet again said, "O Allah! Bless our Sham and Yemen." They said again, "Our Najd as well." On that the Prophet said, "There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there will come out the side of the head of Satan." Volume 2, Book 17, Number 147: Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

The Prophet once offered the prayer and said, "Satan came in front of me and tried to interrupt my prayer, but Allah gave me an upper hand on him and I choked him. No doubt, I thought of tying him to one of the pillars of the mosque till you get up in the morning and see him. Then I remembered the statement of Prophet Solomon, 'My Lord ! Bestow on me a kingdom such as shall not belong to any other after me.' Then Allah made him (Satan) return with his head down (humiliated)."  Volume 2, Book 22, Number 301, Narrated Abu Huraira

Allah's Apostle said, "When the Adhan for the prayer is pronounced, then Satan takes to his heels passing wind so that he may not hear the Adhan and when the Muadh-dhin finishes, he comes back; Volume 2, Book 22, Number 313: Narrated Abu Huraira,

Allah's Apostle said, "When anyone of you stands for the prayers, Satan comes and puts him in doubts till he forgets how many Rakat he has prayed. So if this happens to anyone of you, he should perform two prostrations of Sahu while sitting.  Volume 2, Book 22, Number 324:  Narrated Abu